"Kim Hae-eul" Cho Hae-jin said, "Kim Young-sun, I want to come to Gimhae Gap. It's painful.But nomination intervention?I don't understand."

[News FM Lee Ik-seon Choi Soo-young Issue & People]
□ Broadcast Date: October 2, 2024 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Lee Ik-seon, Choi Soo-young
□ Performers: Cho Hae-jin, former member of the People's Power, Kim Byung-joo, supreme council member of the Democratic Party of Korea

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- "Kim Dae-nam, how did you get into the presidential office? We need to look at the background of hiring"
- Kim Byung-joo"If it is true that Myung Tae-kyun was recorded, 'Kim Gun-hee's manipulation of state affairs' and 'violation of the 尹 Election Act"...That's why we need an independent counsel.
◈ Choi Soo-young: Recently, the so-called Kim Dae-nam transcript in the political circle has had a big impact. Former senior administrator Kim Dae-nam's request for the owner of Seoul is making a big impact, so what do you think, Senator Cho?

★ Cho Hae-jin: I don't understand. I don't understand. I wonder how such a person got into the presidential office as an administrator, and I don't know if the Democratic Party would really applaud the sound of Seoul, but the people who supported President Yoon were the ones who took the lead in dropping the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, who really opened the recordings of First Lady Kim, caused a stir, and eventually made First Lady Kim apologize, and the noisy pastor Choi Jae-young led the case there, didn't he? I don't understand in my common sense that the administrator who served President Yoon called her and told her to write an article about her, saying that she was going to buy a Dior bag, give it to Pastor Choi, and give it to First Lady Yoon. Something unimaginable happened. So, overall, we're in a hurry to hold a presidential election, so we're in a hurry to form a camp, and we're not prepared for the transition committee or the presidential office, so I wonder if these problematic personnel have also intervened. In that sense, I think we should reorganize our internal system before turning the halfway point of our term to prevent this from happening again, and we should look at the background of the recruitment and filter it out, and help the right people around the president.

◈ Choi Soo-young: But the problem is that there are a lot of concerns within the party that this will turn into a glossy conflict. CEO Han Dong-hoon is reported to have ordered a fact-finding investigation, saying he is very embarrassed today. What do you think about the possibility that this issue will turn into another conflict?

★ Cho Hae-jin: This in itself is potentially causing that tension. Since the ruling party and the government are the same body as the president said, they have to harmonize internally and maintain one body regardless of the issue. How to resolve suspicions and resolve them without breaking the unity like this internally is a matter of the political power of representative Han Dong-hoon and the political power of the president and the president's office, so I think we should do well. Basically, I think it is important to resolve the problem as soon as there is a problem based on facts.

☆ Kim Byung-joo: When I look at the transcripts of senior administrator Kim Dae-nam, he was a senior administrator when he was president. I felt a lot that it was true that the president and First Lady Kim Gun-hee, who had been known only by rumors, were true. The president is stubborn. There was this image, but it became like this while using more severe expressions. There were suspicions that First Lady Kim Gun-hee was an influential figure and was manipulating various state affairs, and that she was interfering in the election, but there were also suspicions that she was. There are many problems within the power of the people themselves. Han Dong-hoon, as the chairman of the emergency committee at that time, I think that all of these things, such as self-polls as expenses for the general election, should be revealed through investigation.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: I see. The controversy over pollack bacteria is also growing. This is because it was revealed that Myung Tae-kyun claimed to have spoken to not only First Lady Kim Gun-hee but also President Kim Yoon Suk Yeol about the nomination of former lawmaker Kim Young-sun. You know what News Tomato reported today, right?

★ Cho Hae-jin: Before that, the reports and this report were all in a position to deny that for now. There is a side that I exaggerated a little bit. There are many things that are not true of the relationship, so there is a bit of caution to say something after presupposing the whole thing as a fact. The prosecution's search and seizure is a violation of the Political Fund Act. These days, the search and seizure are very strict. Therefore, it is only necessary to use tweezers to investigate or use them for investigation even if something else comes out. It is difficult for me to confirm the suspicions raised through the prosecution's investigation, and the president is exempted from criminal prosecution. It should be considered that it doesn't proceed in itself. In that respect, I think it is irresponsible to expand the suspicion too much with only claims while not being directly confirmed.

◈ Choi Soo-young: I'd like to ask you one more question. Representative Cho ran for Gimhae-Eul. Former lawmaker Kim Young-sun went to Gimhae Gap, but wasn't it cut off? I heard that Myung Tae-kyun is quite famous in that area, do you know that?

★ Cho Hae-jin: It is well known in South Gyeongsang Province. I know you've done a lot of polls, and you've participated in various election planning, so you've received orders for regional elections, basic elections, and promotions.

◈ Choi Soo-young: You mean you're consulting, right? Did you request consulting?

★ Cho Haejin: I have never done that.

◈ Choi Soo-young: Have you heard anything about Kim Hae-gap at the time or seen it with your own eyes?

★ Cho Hae-jin: At that time, I suddenly fell over there and couldn't afford to pay attention to other things, but I felt that Kim Young-sun had a strong desire to come to Gap. When I saw the news tomato article, I couldn't understand that he wanted to come, but he just sent me what he had organized. Moreover, if Mrs. Kim Gun-hee sent it, if the president or Mrs. Kim Gun-hee sent it, you don't have to suffer so much that you don't have to say, 'I have to come here.' But I don't understand the NewsTomart report that he took a picture from above and guaranteed the nomination and sent it down because he wanted to come to Gimhae Gap, but there was no guarantee of that.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: Please give me a little bit of a quick look at the third party.

☆ Kim Byung-joo: Based on these various recordings and testimonies related to Myung Tae-kyun, this should of course be revealed by investigation, but if this is true, it seems that Kim Gun-hee, who is clear, is a state affairs manipulation, a party intervention, and such a major incident. And Myeong Tae-kyun's story turns out to be true in a while. From that point of view, the credibility is quite high. If we conduct a real investigation and go further to investigate any interference in state affairs or involvement in party affairs by First Lady Kim Gun-hee, it seems that President Yoon Suk Yeol's involvement in party affairs or violation of election law can be revealed. That's why Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel law is important quickly. This time, it must be passed by the plenary session and my resolution passed, so it must be clarified clearly. This is the demand and order of the people.

◈ Choi Soo-young: Senator Kim's conclusion is a special prosecutor, right?

☆ Kim Byung-joo: Yes, that's right. Wouldn't it be revealed only after an independent counsel?

★ Cho Hae-jin: The Democratic Party of Korea's special prosecution is on the rise, impeachment

☆ Kim Byung-joo: It's not impeachment, but let's do an independent counsel to reveal the truth and resolve the public's suspicions.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: Yes, I see. That's all for today's talk. He was with Kim Byung-joo of the Democratic Party of Korea and Cho Hae-jin of the People's Power. Thank you both.

◈ Choi Soo-young: Thank you very much.

☆ Kim Byung-joo, ★ Cho Hae-jin: Thank you.