[News fighting] Choi Jae-sung said, "Myeong Tae-kyun, is it a month for you to step down and impeach?" "There's a smoking gun".

[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: October 8, 2024 (Tue)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Castor: Choi Jae-sung, former senior presidential secretary for political affairs

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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee, the news fighting. Let's talk with Choi Jae-sung, former senior presidential secretary for political affairs, at the time of political extramarital affairs. Hello. We have a lot to talk about today. I'll ask you a quick question. Rather than talking about the audit. First of all, not long ago, four votes were cast away from the ruling party in the re-vote of the Kim Gun-hee Special Counsel Act. Friendly comrades will deliberately vote against or invalidate the four to pressure Kim's apology. This kind of story comes from within the People's Power Party. What did you think of Lee Jeol-pyo?

◇ Choi Jae-sung, former senior presidential secretary for political affairs (hereinafter referred to as Choi Jae-sung): I don't want to see the departure vote like this because it was done systematically to receive an apology. First of all, I think there will be some more basic judgments or ideas. I said something, but the presidential rejection of the Coporal Chae Special Prosecutor Act failed. But even the Special Act on First Lady Kim Gun-hee is doing all-out to protect the Special Prosecutor Act related to the president. First Lady Kim Gun-hee has more suspicions and investigations are underway. I think these things are working naturally, such as whether we should stop Kim Gun-hee like this. So on the surface, some members of the People's Power should apologize. There are some lawmakers like this, but rather than that, should Kim Gun-hee be prevented? These are at least based on the leave vote, and I think a little more lawmakers are thinking that. However, I think there are a number of lawmakers who are waiting for some kind of justification and, in a way, things like this to be cooked.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then you won't necessarily be close to each other. Are you talking about this?

◇ Choi Jae-sung: I think that's possible. For example, there were people who said they would openly vote against the Coporal Chae Special Counsel Act last time. As if he said he would vote for it, there are certain phenomena that are a little more fundamental than the way people set the standard and look at it. It hasn't come to light yet.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then, the Democratic Party of Korea will propose another special prosecution law for Kim Gun-hee. If this kind of re-voting comes again, since there are 4 or more and 8 people close together, will there be 20 more?

◇ Choi Jae-sung: I can't jump to a conclusion, but I think it's a bit of a possibility that it's going to happen in conjunction with a number of political situations. For example, the inside of the passport is something that needs to be talked about differently, but now there is a suspicion of Kim Dae-nam's attack. Mrs. Kim really intervened in the nomination. There is one thing, but the problem of the attack is like a bomb that can be completely destroyed by the party and the president's office, if you talk about it differently with the president and Han Dong-hoon. So CEO Han Dong-hoon is not stepping down. I check it again. This can't happen. The party even has a judicial system. That's what I say. So, when combined with these and other situations, the scope of escape may increase unexpectedly.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: They may not necessarily be close to each other. Representative Han Dong-hoon, who means this, recently held a dinner meeting with close lawmakers, and the dinner venue. I decided at first, went to another place, and met behind closed doors, and eventually it was released. Since President Yoon only met with the floor leadership, the party leader was not able to attend at that time, right? Is it because it's a bit compared?

◇Choi Jae-sung: Usually, when it comes to a rice bowl fight, it's called a rice bowl fight over a position, a government post, or power, but it's like a sour rice bowl fight. The president doesn't eat with you and the floor leader except for you, so we agree to do well. But CEO Han Dong-hoon said, "Let's put the child's rice bowl together and eat, but the president refuses, and once again, President Han Dong-hoon refuses. And this time, put the rice bowl on the table and eat. So I think the sour rice bowl fight is going on differently from the original concept. Regardless of which side was right, it became the same thing as whether the chicken or the egg came first. It has become a landscape where we exchange rice bowls with each other rather than who we blame and who is worse. That's why politics goes missing. Relationship between the president and the party. Representative Han Dong-hoon's relationship goes to catastrophe.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's heading towards catastrophe.

◇Choi Jae-sung: And eating itself is nothing strange unless it's a so-called presidential rice bowl fight. When the party leader is elected, he can eat with the lawmakers who helped him or something, and he can eat with the people who stood on the other side for party unity. So-called, this is a problem that cannot be blamed, but it has become a hot topic because of the ongoing rice battle.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But rather, with representative Han Dong-hoon, Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo and lawmaker Kwon Young-se. Rep. Kwon Sung-dong criticizes why he is holding such factional meetings at this point in time, saying that factional politics is outdated.

◇Choi Jae-sung: It's hard for me to be persuasive to criticize one-sided criticism, even if it's a content and object to be criticized. The president does the same. So in the end, this is a shot at Hong Joon Pyo Mayor and Oh Se-hoon, who are now politically opposed to each other, just eating representative Han Dong-hoon. However, President Yoon's narrow-minded politics of eating rice bowls and meals is not discussed at all. So, I see it as a criticism that can't have objectivity because it's a criticism toward one side, so it's a criticism that can't have power and persuasion. In particular, Mayor Hong, as you know, only the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo remains as a presidential candidate after removing everything, so they are all a kind of peeling.

◆ Bae Seung-hee:
to undermine the presidential candidate
◇ Choi Jae-sung: Yes. So this time, Mayor Oh Se-hoon and CEO Han Dong-hoon voiced criticism about the meal, but Mayor Oh Se-hoon also shot at the Hong Joon Pyo market when he felt something could not be seen. So after all, it's the presidential candidate who Hong Joon Pyo is shooting at after all these people.
◆ Bae Seung-Hee: Yes, I see. Right. Kim Dae-nam's owner also mentioned Han Dong-hoon's owner of attack, but since representative Han Dong-hoon, the power of the people and the president are showing a downward trend, right? Regarding the approval rating, is there any possibility that CEO Han Dong-hoon will ask the president to defect from the party while meeting with the chairman of the outside committee?

◇Choi Jae-sung: I don't think CEO Han Dong-hoon alone can make such a voice. For example, if the president's approval rating falls to the late 10% level, or if something else related to Kim Gun-hee boils down and public sentiment almost explodes, there could be calls for defection even if CEO Han Dong-hoon is not close to him. I mentioned this when CEO Han Dong-hoon ran for president. Unlike the previous one, there are some other areas of conflict within the ruling camp. That's the case with the Special Act on Kim Gun-hee, the apology issue for Mrs. Kim Gun-hee, and this feeling was expressed again in the course of meal politics, and that's why there's a difference in perspective on the medical crisis. So if bad materials occur again and the president's approval rating falls, it is possible for the president to decide if it would not be good for me to maintain my party affiliation there. Yes, but this problem is a little surprising, but in my view, there is a problem that we need to look into an inch more. Kim Dae-nam, a senior administrator, is just a different administrator from the second level to the point where he belongs to the high level. That's why it's a very important position.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I heard you're an assistant manager.

◇Choi Jae-sung: Still, senior administrators are not multiple administrators and one of dams. You're a senior administrator and then you're a secretary. But you can see it in three ways. One is that the attack owner and the owner we talked about just now actually leaked the white paper of the general election to the president's office. I'm not saying that Han Dong-hoon misappropriated investigation costs or anything like that. So how did he get to the presidential office and Kim Dae-nam, the administrator of the presidential office, said, "Women will like this because of the sound of Seoul." When I told him to break Han Dong-hoon, he actually made an article. So I think Han Dong-hoon is sure that the connection is clearly working and behind it. Then who would be behind it? In the end, in a way beyond the controversy, CEO Han Dong-hoon has even talked about the judicial system, and in the end, he will do his best with this. I can read it like this. So this is the biggest detonator.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then are you attacking representative Han Dong-hoon like this?

◇ Choi Jae-sung: There is a separate intervention in the nomination. It's considered to kill Han Dong-hoon, but Kim Dae-nam wasn't alone. And it's not just looking at this article, but the white paper for the general election, which was a security issue, is mentioned there. It looks at how this went to the presidential office and how the presidential office ordered the attack with this. So, CEO Han Dong-hoon is emotionally very angry and unpleasant, and this is a process that can be a judicial problem. This is what the judicial system is talking about, and this is a really big detonator. Next, Kim Dae-nam's intervention in the nomination process is a little difficult to find out unless Kim Dae-nam presents something more specific in person, but the third is important.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: What's the third one?

◇ Choi Jae-sung: It's culture. The presidential office is at this level. The senior administrator in the presidential office says that the president is the same as the president, and the content is almost trash. Because the presidential office is the control tower of state administration, the best people are gathering. So, in a rural neighborhood over there, all Korea's information, including crop damage, comes up in real-time daily, reports, analyzes, judges, prepares, and responds, and this is where a senior administrator works in real-time every day. This is a Park Geun Hye. When we look at the impeachment case and things like that, the chief of staff and others eventually make statements or take away the list of evidence, so with this amount, in the presidential office where these people work, will the president have defense power when he loses strength and what kind of problem should I say? Rather, what should I say? It's a sign that there's a possibility of statements and things like this turning on the president.

◆Bae Seung-Hee: You know Myung Tae-kyun. Lee Myung-tae-kyun, who is coming out now, insisted that he should step down and impeach within a month if he is investigated. How do you see this?

◇Choi Jae-sung: I have a money problem here, too. The so-called secretary Kang, who was dispatched by Kim Young-sun's secretary, Myung Tae-kyun, will go to meet President Yoon and his wife to receive 360 million won in public opinion polls during the presidential election. So, of course, it's about Secretary Kang, but that's why I couldn't go and received the nomination instead. They say it's a master of nominations. If Myung Tae-kyun asks me to arrest him, the fact that impeachment will happen within a month means that there is something smoking gun. So in a way, I'm sending the president's signature. I'm sending the signal. Don't touch me. Don't let me touch you. That's not just the content, but there must be many things, but I'm saying I have six mobile phones. Myung Tae-kyun, but at least you know Secretary Kang's statement. If Myung Taekyun supports this, this will be a huge problem. I'm sending a threat signal to protect myself with this kind of problem.

◆Bae Seung-Hee: It's been a long time since we talked. I'll give you the next question. Moon Da-hye, the daughter of former President Moon Jae In, drove while drunk. I got drunk driving. What do you think of this controversy?

◇Choi Jae-sung: For me, first of all. There's no excuse for this. Second, however, the response of the people's power is too low. There are so-called supporters of President Moon. Moonpa or Daegaemoon. They criticize this by making the person who talked about it as the speaker. So, let's defend Moon Da-hye from the people's power, for example, in these comments and things like, "Let's understand Moon Da-hye." There are comments about how painful the prosecution investigation must have been, but this is just a common occurrence of anonymous strangers. However, there are remarks by the Supreme Council members as if they are doing this like this because they are raising this to the Democratic Party or the President of Moon Jae In, such as protecting Moon Da-hye, Um Da-hye, and there is no excuse. So after making an apology, it's as if the general public's opinions are set up with the opinions of the Democratic Party or President Moon, and then they attack it again. Then in the end, they're doing crazy things. There's no excuse for the door. It's my fault. However, the so-called son-in-law employment case. President Moon is suspected of bribery, and in a way, it is making a demonization process for Moon Da-hye

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It was a low reaction. I see. We need to talk about the parliamentary audit quickly. I think Da-hye Moon should apologize for the parliamentary audit. President Moon should apologize. Do you think President Moon should apologize?

◇ Choi Jae-sung: I think it's a separate matter. If you apologize again, honestly, it's Moon Da-hye's fault. But there's a scene where the former president has to apologize to the public for this. These things are really a problem that can be discussed, but if you apologize, I don't think I should do that, and I don't think I need to do that, but then I make other political interpretations. Why did President Moon apologize? Then, isn't it an apology attacking President Yoon? Kim Gun-hee will interpret it again without an apology. Therefore, Moon Da-hye's fault is wrong, politics is politics, and it is a matter of drawing a clear line on this.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's a separate matter. At the parliamentary inspection, Kim Gun-hee's alleged preferential treatment on Yangpyeong Expressway and stock price manipulation involving the nomination of luxury bags became a hot topic. Will Kim's suspicions be resolved through the parliamentary inspection?

◇ Choi Jae-sung: I don't say that these things can be interpreted or revealed neatly through a parliamentary audit, or that they can be defended. So in the end, there are judicial issues, so I think it would be okay to name the National Audit Office Kim Gun-hee in terms of quantity and content. The people's power is to do an inspection of Lee Jae-myung, but first of all, it's something they know and the trial is underway, and it can't have a ripple effect on Lee Jae-myung's inspection both quantitatively and qualitatively. As I said, it's a problem that the people all know. And it's not a matter of judicial proceedings already underway. So I've been listening to this for the past few years, and I've been watching it really hard. So, there's nothing new about this.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But we can ask about the delay in the trial.

◇Choi Jae-sung: No, that's also the question that came out. However, Mrs. Kim Gun-hee said, "There are specificities in matters such as accomplices being investigated and luxury bags, and the recent recordings of Kim Dae-nam and Secretary Lee Young-sam are not allowed. First Lady Kim Gun-hee's mysterious decision wins National Assembly inspection this time is Kim Gun-hee's National Assembly inspection

◆ Bae Seung-Hee: Okay, I got it. Thank you for coming out today. Next time, we'll try to do everything faster. So far, I have been with Choi Jae-sung, former senior presidential secretary for political affairs. Thank you.

◇ Choi Jae-sung: Thank you.