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[News FM Lee Ik-seon Choi Soo-young Issue & People]
□ Broadcast Date: Thursday, October 10, 2024
□ Host: Lee Ik-seon, Choi Soo-young
□ Cast: Lawyer Jeon Won-chaek

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◇ Lee Ik-seon: If you express this person in a book, the name stone is the brand. Let's solve the monthly book, various issues with new issues and extensive knowledge. We have invited a lawyer, Jeon Won-chaek, the VIP guest who meets monthly. Please come in.

★ Overnight Book: Hello. Should I really make a book from the monthly Overnight Book from next year? I love the idea as a monthly magazine.

◇ Profit line: Yes. Is it the idea of our artist, Suzy Park?

◆ Choi Soo-young: I think it would be good to make it in about 70 to 80 pages instead of 200 pages.

★ Jeon Won-chaek: In fact, I need to give the people a little bit of anger about current affairs, so the key thing I feel in my 40 years of political criticism is that the person in power hides it. For example, we don't want to talk about our current financial situation and the job situation, and the conservative regime doesn't like to talk about it. And the job issue is just tight-lipped in left-wing regimes. But now the Yoon Suk Yeol regime has rights to both. There are fewer jobs in the 20s and 30s right now. They are tinkering with the increase of 60 to 70 jobs, and all of them are part-time jobs. It doesn't make sense for the government to put it forward as a job for those who clean up trash on the side streets of our alleys in the morning. It's because of the lack of labor education. Aren't you saying, "Let's die, let's live together?" Let's live and die. Now, the ruling and opposition parties are completely equating people's livelihoods and one is Lee Jae-myung's risk and one is Kim Gun-hee's risk, and many of these people now know Lee Jae-myung's risk. YTN, which is the pursuit of media companies that overwhelm the evidence presented by the prosecution, is also a very large media company. These media companies tracked it down and broadcasted it all on the ground of the newspaper. This is why the prosecution follows it upside down. The Seongnam FC donation case, including Daejang-dong Gate, Baekin-dong, and Wirye New Town, was initially crushed, but it was crushed during the Moon Jae In government, and then reinvestigated again as the media continued to follow-up reports. That's right. Not to mention the twin-drop remittance case to North Korea. The Republic of Korea is still a long way away, but as we attacked Kim Gun-hee's risk this time, people say that he intervened in the nomination. Looking at it, I've been to Chilbulsa Temple in Jirisan Mountain only once. From that Chilbulsa Temple, Lee Jun-seok went late at night, and the Cheonan ship came from Jeolla-do, so now the One-two came from the New Reform Party. And from this side, Kim Young-sun went and a person named Myeongmo went. I've met a lot of people, but I've only heard about pollack bacteria that I've just mentioned about my name. When I was eating with a lawmaker, I talked about it in an accidental way, but there is a good group of presidents from close aides to the president, such as any president in the United States, or any president in Korea. For example, people who are in a certain class in our society, those who have a broad perspective, those who are very knowledgeable about our policies, when they meet the president, they say, "This is too much. We need to hurry up." So, during YS, there were one or two lawyers, and there were good groups in front of them, and all good groups will be revealed later. For example, there is a doctor who was close to Kim Hyun-chul when a person who was not a good group intervened in state affairs during the YS. How much later did this person go crazy? His brother was a lawyer and he just buried his face. I won't reveal my name, but the reason is that even though a doctor is an intellectual in Korea, why do you break the subject and cross the line that's not your job? I'm talking about this problem. Then if you do something like that, it becomes a manipulation of state affairs. But this time, this pollack bacteria is not even at that level. It's way down. To put it simply, it's not even an immersion-based manipulation of state affairs, but I think this is just a collusion. No. I bought it in the newspaper this morning and found out that the title of "collaborator" actually appears. I mean, it's a trick about how a trickster gets tricked. The word "collaboration" came right next to the top leadership, which decides the state of affairs policy. The president called Dr. Myung. It came out right next to me. This is a terrible thing. So what do you say because the interest problem explodes? If I touch me, I have to step down in a month and it will be impeached, so can I handle it or can I handle it? This is the story of the movie's dialogue. They say, "I can handle it." This guy watched a lot of movies like that. So the thing that looks like is that I learned the trick. I learned it from the movie. I can handle it. That's what I said again this time. They didn't tell me one-tenth of what I did. Everyone will fall out if you're just being played around like this. I'm threatening the people now. So, I'm not a representative of the people, but if I'm really in front of me, I'd like to slap him on the ear. I said this on another broadcast, so I was pointed out that it's not an appropriate term for broadcasting, but it's really like that. I'm getting angry. State affairs are being manipulated by these collaborators, Mori-bae. But there's talk about who's going to teach you this, right? I know who told me who told me. It's funny if you look at the newspaper. Well, someone must have told you. Even Kim Young-sun went to the president's house with me. That was the first time. It's not because I'm talking about this similar thing. When I went there, Lee Jun-seok was there. He talked about this, and Kim Yong-in also talked about that.

◆ Choi Soo-young: It's kind of heading towards the truth game.

★ Powerbook: Well, if you do something about it, why would this happen? All of our people have already fallen behind after seeing this. Even if this is not what pollack said, it's already gone. In the past, why would we use the expression "state affairs manipulation" against Choi Seo-won, Choi Soon-sil, and Choi Soon-sil? It's September 24, 2017. I remember that. I always went to the office and turned on the TV while organizing after my program as an anchor, but that day, I confessed to JTBC. When I turned it on, the comments kept coming out, so what is this? This huge revelation war is taking place. But why were we surprised about Choi Seo-won? The person who corrected the president's speech was the only person who did the president's speech at that time, and JTBC reported that the president's speech was also touched. Isn't it this? I was just a Gangnam lady who had money in Gangnam right next to us and money in the market basket, but looked shallow. People are shocked here. That's why the word "state affairs manipulation" came out. If Choi Seo-won was a very prominent university professor or a political scientist, I don't know if I should say this. Or the media. .

◇ Lee Ik-seon: Then it would be a little different.

★ Powerbook: It's not that different. No one would have said that. The reason is that any president has such a non-presidential power. So let's take a look at this bacterium upside down. If you look at all the people who brought in this pollack, they met pollack in this administration. I talked about it. To be honest, Lee Joon-seok, who ran to Chilbulsa Temple in the middle of the night because he envied Myung Tae-kyun, has nothing to say. You went to Chilbulsa Temple. I understood that if these people do something together, Oh Myung-tae-gyun is a person who deserves to be able to intervene in our state affairs. Why would I call him Dr. Myung from President Yoon? At least I thought I was qualified to receive advice, and Mrs. Kim Gun-hee said she called me a teacher. It's a common name, but when I went to meet him, there were director Kim Geun and Dr. Lee Myung. Well, it means that Dr. Myung was sitting next to me and talking with me leisurely. It's incredible.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: Yes, we started this segment and didn't ask a single question, but it's been solved so far.

★ Powerbook: No. . The thing that our people are most interested in right now is pollack, and there is a person who lived because of this pollack. That's Kim Dae-nam. I lived. I hope you don't talk about me on the show anymore.

◆ Choi Soo-young: Here we go! But as you said, there are two controversies.Ma feels like CEO Han Dong-hoon's stance is getting a little stronger. So, I will decide to go to the country and the party. And today is yesterday. Kim Gun-hee even said that she should refrain from external activities. Beyond an apple, we're going to go separately now.

★ Jeon Won-chaek: CEO Han Dong-hoon must have been a little shocked recently. For example, someone like me has to go on a morning radio broadcast and step down now. I strictly say that if you don't step down now, you don't have a future. It's not just me. Some of the other people said something similar. I did it behind me and I think there's one person in front of me. Then step back. To put it simply, why do we have to refrain from representative Han Dong-hoon? Why do we have to step down? Do you know why I'm talking about this? You don't have your own philosophy. Everyone needs their own philosophy to do politics. In particular, you're the leader of a conservative party. But he appeared at the end of December and appeared as the chairman of the emergency committee, so it's been almost a year now that he doesn't have his philosophy, so what do you have? I don't have my own brand. In the process of holding the general election, the party's emergency committee chairman, no. As the head of the party, he participates in supportive campaigns seven times eight times a day. He went out and said it. He said it at best. He said it at best. As the leader of the ruling party, I will do this for sure. Everyone, please push us in this general election. I will definitely create such jobs and propose such policies to narrow the gap between the rich and the poor and open the way for self-employed people not to close their businesses in the future. I'll let this street overflow with people. I have to make a policy like this and talk about it, and there is no such thing as how to do national security or how to do personnel policy. The only thing I do is take selfies and play selfies wherever I go. I've been playing selfies lately. I played selfies and put my arms around each other to discourage the candidates, and I thought they were taking them off, but that's welcome. So we're not in the prelude to Han Dong-hoon's presidential election. That's how I warned you. While we were criticizing, I thought this election was a must. I thought the election was ruined. And the nomination is a mess. In short, some of them have become lawmakers because the nomination is over, and especially if they want to mention it as a proportional representation nomination, they can't talk about it anymore. Since you're currently active, why would you nominate someone? It was the worst nomination. That's why you don't have your own philosophy. If you don't have a philosophy, the policy doesn't come out. Then what will it be? It's only a pseudo-repair. A proper conservative regime has not been born. I don't think there is a proper conservative party conservative regime conservative leader in Korea right now. From President Yoon, if he was armed with a conservative philosophy, he would have reformed labor even if a knife came into his neck as soon as he took power. The biggest problem is labor reform, but you're talking about it yourself. I talked about how important labor reform is, labor reform, wage reform, and education reform. Tax reform, public reform, and other difficulties to do, but I haven't even started working on the first labor reform of the three. I saw you and you spent two and a half years. And I'm talking about medical reform now. But I was surprised. I went to Singapore and had an interview with the Singaporean media. I did a written interview for that, too. So a very refined expression went out. The world's best health care is now too at risk. So this healthcare reform is essential. No, why is this necessary for medical reform? Why are you talking to Singaporean media when you're talking? I still don't have a staff member who makes a proper recommendation to the president, right? It is Jeong Jin-seok, a five-term lawmaker, who is serving in the presidential office in Yongsan. Then, we should have such an interview with the Korean media, gather representatives of Korean doctors, and have a candid discussion over a cup of coffee. This is why I actually started. But now that you're increasing the number of people by 2,000, they're jumping. What's the alternative? I interviewed the Singaporean media and the Singapore daily newspaper. Watching that, I still don't know how things have changed. If you do something now, the Democratic Party is on the verge of being impeached. By the way, the Democratic Party is on the verge of being sentenced. This is absurd that the Public Official Election Act itself is innocent and less than 1 million won. If that happens, 10 million people will gather in Gwanghwamun. So that and the court are all arrested. The court also has no choice but to be wary of this. All past Sion precedents are bound. So, if you pay a fine for this, you can't avoid at least 10 million won, and in my view, it's just right to be sentenced to freestyle. It's perfect for a year in prison and two years of probation. The perjury teacher knows everything. As I always say about perjury teachers, the worst crime of obstruction of justice is perjury teachers. Even after committing that perjury teacher crime, you lie to reporters until the end to avoid it. Simply put, I think this is what the prosecution manipulated the evidence and manipulated the case. I'm talking about this. But everything is already in court. Journalists know better. Then, no matter how similar the ideology of senior judge Kim Dong-hyun is to that side, it is not possible to acquit him. And he will be fined with 1 million won. If that's the case. In the future, his name will be stigmatized in history. That's why you can't do that either. That's why it's a closing ceremony right now. Now the Democratic Party and the country may have a Supreme Court sentence as early as November. Since we're doing it in this order, my country is probably dead right now. We have to bring it down now.

◆ Choi Soo-young: So do you think that's why that comment came out? We must bring him down now. You can pull him down?

★ Powerbook: Yes. If we pay our salaries and we don't do it properly, we have to pull it down. Then, when I went to Busan this time, it wasn't like that, but when did I say that? This is not a pun against the people, but it's about whether I talked about impeachment or not. What do you mean by impeachment? What do you mean!

◇ Lee Ik-seon: I see. You've been diagnosed so far. You're analyzing everything that's going wrong, regardless of whether it's 80 or 80 years old. Then, from now on, how to break through this? Can't you see it from each point of view? How do we break through to find the answer, which will be good for our country, which will be mine, who will be the key man later, and all these things will be seen, right, lawyer Jeon?

★ Powerbook: Will you see everything to me? The problem is that CEO Han Dong-hoon also missed the timing right now. Kim Gun-hee kept saying she missed the timing, but she missed the timing of Kim Gun-hee. Before the apology came out and the private conversation came out, Kim Gun-hee just went to the microphone and answered the questions honestly in front of the reporters and made this mistake. But from now on, I really won't come forward. From now on, I'll just be my team. I'll just take care of my husband's dress shirt and never come forward. I was supposed to say it like this, but I missed the timing. The thing that missed it is if you look at the media expressions now. President Yoon won't let him talk about Kim Gun-hee whenever he talks about her. President Yoon doesn't even have a say in Kim Gun-hee's case. There are similar stories. That's how much First Lady Kim Gun-hee makes my argument at home, but then the country is the problem.

◇ Profitship: Question. Former President Park Geun Hye began to apologize in the past, but that is not enough. It's not sincere. It is the view of some conservatives that the successive apologies led to the impeachment of impeachment. There is such a trauma.

★ Jeon Won-chaek: Well, I understand the purpose of this, but this time again, if director Kim Gun-hee makes an apology, a second and third attack will come under the pretext of that, and the attack will increase. I'm talking about this. That's why you can't even apologize carelessly. Now, it's about so-called spin doctors. It's not the spin doctors that make it right by thinking about the right timing and location. In the presidential office in Yongsan, for example, in the past, there were about 80 spin doctors for these prime ministers if they were in England. So, for example, when Diana died, the queen immediately went to the Scottish villa over there and didn't show up at first because Queen Etzebeth was so angry. At first, I did it for four days and five days, so Prime Minister Tony Blair put the letter as his grandson's grandmother in a personal questionnaire after being suggested by spin doctors. Our Queen is now in deep sorrow as grandmother of her grandson. As the grandmother of this grandson, this word has healed all of Diana's wounds. Later, the evaluation came out, and from then on, public sentiment began to change completely. Since then, the criminal has been in trouble with countless flowers piled up in front of the corner and candles lit up. Every word and every action is very important. So there are always spin doctors in foreign countries near the so-called ruler. There are public relations experts and strategy experts, and our president should have them, but I think non-professionals are causing this problem because they are spin doctors rather than experts. For example, the same goes for Han Dong-hoon from any hairstyle of the president. In foreign countries, spin doctors make all the talking and walking scenes. Walk like this Make this expression when you take a picture. And do your hairstyle like this. I wear neckties. But we look like we're far from a spin doctor. President Yoon and CEO Han Dong-hoon have nothing more to say, so they fall into this selfie game at any meeting. How would the people see that? Even if I'm full after getting my back warmed up, I'm going to make a fuss if I watch that selfie game, but it's as hard as it is now. Self-employed people are closing their businesses in line, and the streets are a mess at 9 p.m., but the leader of the ruling party gathers with people and even Park Chan-dae, the leader of the opposition party, does that because it's such a memorable scene. There are countless reporters taking pictures in front of me anyway, but it's amazing to see it.

◆ Choi Soo-young: Let me ask you one more question. So now that Han is mentioned, the president and Han are finally having a private meeting after the by-elections in October. But I think that could be a breakthrough at this point.

★ Powerbook: Well, you're abroad right now. But I'm sure you've been worried a lot. In particular, the head of the politician's office would have held several meetings. In my opinion, I contacted CEO Han Dong-hoon and said, "That's not the case." There is a possibility that secret agents might have come and gone and met separately. Something must have come and gone. If you go and don't have a private meeting anyway, if you continue to see comments accumulating in the process, the criminal passport may be shaken, so let's meet anyway. However, since there is a by-elections on October 16, there is a by-elections, so if we meet before that, we don't know what else will come out, so it's not a big election anyway. But we can't decide how to meet after that and where to go. Then President Yoon said okay in a foreign country, but he didn't even say, "Let's have a drink while eating dinner." CEO Han Dong-hoon doesn't drink anyway, but has he been to a drinking party once or twice in the past? But those words haven't come out yet. But as a representative, I think so. If you ask for something this time to bring out the accident of Mrs. Kim Gun-hee, and if you boldly show the act of punishing a collaborator for something like this, Han Dong-hoon can float. That's the only thing Han Dong-hoon has in his head all the time. How I float is why it's so absurd. Rather, if you want to find a way to take another leap forward, now is the time for me to step back and study my philosophy and study my mind. If you get caught up like now, think about it. Representative Kim Ki-hyun is also a normal year ago at the national convention. He was chosen at the March 8th National Convention. However, whether sponsored by Yongsan or not, the party leader, who was elected normally, suffered a crushing defeat in the by-election for the head of Gangseo-gu, the head of the local government. Where is CEO Kim Ki-hyun responsible for that crushing defeat? It was rather Yongsan that pushed the candidate there. And all the stars of the party, such as Na Kyung-won and Ahn Cheol Soo, were put in there. But when I opened the lid, I suffered a crushing defeat. That's why he kept pulling down his collar with that responsibility. Since you said you wouldn't be able to come out, who appeared? Is it dangerous to suddenly put up a Korean by saying that he is the chairman of the innovation committee by making the person in question appear? So, of course, I'm Korean. But In Yo-han also threw a shock wave by citing foreign Koreans. He is the chairman of the innovation committee. What's that innovation? Kim Ki-hyun, come down. It's not like this. If I say it, I'll kick him out and let's see the results in this election. What would happen if the mayor of Geumjeong-gu lost? Han Dong-hoon has to step down, but now he has to step down, but there is no chance again. So, in my opinion, if a real problem like this happens, I'll step down, but if you think of past competitors, you know, YS, DJ, and past political players. I would have thrown that game. I will step down as long as I don't lose face as the president, so let's sincerely apologize to the people if we did anything wrong in the ruling party in our government. I'll apologize first. And I'm stepping down. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. As time goes by, any policy has its own strengths and weaknesses, so I don't know what the outcome will be.Whatever it is, we are now in the worst corner. In fact, Lee Jae-myung of the Democratic Party is the one who will be cornered. There's no Plan B there either. It's made into a one-party shrine. Through Sadanghwa, he went through a nomination process that was almost no different from a criminal act. That's why you made Sadanghwa. Do you think it makes sense because you knocked out this man named Hong Young-pil, Park Kwang-won, who served as floor leader? It didn't do well in parliament. You put it in the bottom 20% and hit your neck, so you're saying that was the floor leader? Then, the Democratic Party of Korea is in a corner and there is no Flynn B, so if Lee Jae-myung is sentenced to some kind of freestyle, Then it shakes sharply. At first, the Democratic Party of Korea will unite to protest in Gwanghwamun and cause a stir. Conversely, they threaten the power of the people. It's going to be a mess when you push the impeachment and bring it down. But it soon breaks down. Lee Jae-myung has no future. If this happens, Lee Jae-myung is a ideological painting, and no one has an alternative. 3K's Kim Dong-hyun and Kim Boo-kyum and Kim Kyung-soo's 3K are no alternatives. It's a non-citizenship. So, in my view, the Democratic Party is in a tight spot, but conversely, the power of the people is in a tight spot right now. It's because of the pollack bacteria.

◆ Choi Soo-young: Then, how much does Lee Jae-myung win if he wins all four sides in this local by-election? Or if you win two places, you win.

★ Jeon Won-chaek: Whether you win two places or my clothes, Lee Jae-myung has no problem. Now, I'm not a person from the future, but Lee Jae-myung kept saying in the media that he excluded Honam from the by-elections, and Honam is now against his country. If you win the rest of the election, it's as if the public sentiment is on Lee Jae-myung. This is why Lee Jae-myung seems to have a chance, but this is now a legal matter. Part 33 and part 34 of the Seoul Central District Court Criminal Agreement both deal with legal issues. I'm not dealing with political issues. So if you understand this as a political issue, you insult those senior judges. This is a perjury teacher for obstruction of justice is a very serious crime. If I'm a judge, I never take this lightly. I'm going to give a prison sentence. If I do, but anyway, Lee Jae-myung is now putting his last expectations on the by-elections to survive. But I think you're mistaken. For example, it's like this. It looks like this to me. If you keep lying, you'll fall for it yourself, and you'll find out the lie as if it were the physical truth.

◇ Interest line: It tends to be like that. I don't have much time, so let me ask you this. The election of the superintendent of education.

★ Jeon Won-chaek: To be honest, I'm the superintendent of education Lee. I think I need to change the system. For example, someone like me doesn't know. For the future educational competition of our country, the superintendent of education needs someone to enter. I don't know if he's the one who's always thinking about this, but if he's like a normal person. I'm not very interested in this superintendent election.

◇ Interest line: I'm not interested.

★ Powerbook: If you are not interested, where will the success or failure change? If people who are interested are not interested, where will the victory or defeat change? It turns into an organization. It depends on who makes the organization better. So how are our education policies decided on this? In my view, and if we want to have the Ministry of Education, we should do all the elections of the superintendent of education on a nomination system, and if we do the election system as it is now, we should get rid of the Ministry of Education itself. Why do you have a ministry of education when the ministry has nothing to do? The same goes for unification policies, for example. Anyway, if there is a national security office in the presidential office and it is made to operate properly, the Ministry of Unification itself should be eliminated. The Ministry of Unification and the Ministry of Education should be eliminated earlier. The Ministry of Gender Equality should be eliminated, and instead of eliminating women, the Gender Equality Committee should be at the ministerial level. There are still talks about glass ceiling in Korea. Then, I think it would be right for the Gender Equality Committee to have a Gender Equality Committee that grants some of the investigative rights like the prosecution, not the Ministry of Gender Equality's job as in the past.

◆ Choi Soo-young: Anyway, it's almost unified as a progressive conservative, so it's going to be a camp battle. Anyway, if you can weigh the expectations or advantages and disadvantages of winning or losing the election, which is just around the corner.

★ Powerbook: I don't know. In particular, Cho, the single conservative candidate, has become a person I know very well, and if I side with someone on Cho Jeon-hyuk's broadcast, it also violates the election law, but since I'm a conservative, of course, I hope Cho will be elected, and from my point of view, I'd feel good. That's why I'm thinking of voting, too. Yes. I'm going to vote.

◆ Choi Soo-young: Many people expected the turnout to be low. .

★ Powerbook: Much better. From what I can see, it won't exceed 30%.

◇ Profit line: Okay. After asking about 4 questions, he's a lawyer for Jeon Won-chaek who lost for about 30 minutes.

★ Powerbook: If you don't have much to say, you take away your time like this.

◇ Profit line: Monthly power book. I was with lawyer Jeon Won-chaek. Thank you for coming forward.

◆ Choi Soo-young: Thank you very much.

★ Powerbook: Yes, thank you.