Shin Ji-ho, "The key reason why Mrs. Kim's 'Hannam-dong 7-member Association' Chief of Staff and Senior Secretary for Political Affairs are not functioning properly."

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: October 15, 2024 (Tuesday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Dialogue: Shin Ji-ho, Minister of Strategic Planning for People's Power,

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- Dogok-dong 7-member club? Kwon Sung-dong, Senior Members Make Light remarks like feathers without any basis
- Han Dong-hoon unofficially requests Yongsan for 'human reform'..A situation that has no choice but to be publicized
- Key cause of failure to function properly as chief of staff and senior secretary for political affairs of the 'Hannam-dong Line'
- First Lady Kim Gun-hee should be limited to a minimum compared to the activities of the traditional first lady
- Myung Tae-kyun, Mrs. Kim's text content revealed? Heartbreak...Ruling party lawmakers 'mental breakdown'
- President's office collapses after one day of official explanation...We need to make a 'myeongtae bacillus prevention method'
- Han Dong-hoon's leadership hit in Busan Geumjeong's defeat? I don't think that's going to happen.
◆ Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University (hereinafter referred to as Shin Yul): Shin Yul's News! Head-to-head Interview Part 1. With Shin Ji Ho, President of the Strategic Planning Department. Please come in.

◇ Shin Ji-ho, Minister of Strategic Planning (hereinafter referred to as Shin Ji-ho): Yes, hello.

◆ Shin Yul: Thank you for coming to the studio in person even though you must be busy these days.

◇ Shin Ji-ho: No, it's not. Thank you for inviting me.

◆ Shin Yul: We are more grateful. Are there so many lines these days? Not too long ago, in Japan, it was Line. You did it with that, but these days, it's Hannam-dong Line. No, it's Dogok-dong line. We're talking about it now, but CEO Han Dong-hoon didn't express it as the Hannam-dong line, but seeing that it's the first lady line, Kim Gun-hee. There is a public opinion that there is a certain degree of substance. Vice-president, what do you think?

◇ Shin Ji-ho: There's definitely a substance. I gave an example of a representative case yesterday. It was April 17th this year, right? At 5:30 a.m., a broadcaster reported that Prime Minister Park Young-sun and Chief of Staff Yang Jeong-cheol will be reviewed an hour later, and here on YTN. However, from the incident, some staff members who were not in the personnel line played the media and I talked about the representative case. Chief of Staff Lee Kwan-seop, who played in the media at the time, and Chairman of the Personnel Affairs Committee, who were the two secretaries who played in the media despite the official denial of the Chairman of the Personnel Affairs Committee, are also identified. And as Professor Shin knows well, when they play the media, they do it to reporters. Aren't there reporters who heard it all? I can't deceive you if I have to deceive you. That's because we have a substance, and we've exemplified representative cases, and there are many cases other than this. But we don't have any intention of solving it like we're playing Truth or Dare. Now, I think that the president's office should handle this wisely if it has sent a certain signal.

◆ Sin-ryul: But in some cases. But there's a Dogok-dong line right now.

◇ Shin Ji-ho: Rep. Kwon Sung-dong talked about a seven-member meeting in Dogok-dong, and if you're a five-term lawmaker, we call it a senior. The medium is heavy in Chinese characters. I don't know how the senior lawmaker made such a feathery remark when he was a heavyweight. There is no basis, and Kim Gun-hee said something about the seven members of Hannam-dong line, but Han Dong-hoon has never said anything like that. Just the Kim Gun-hee line and the Kim line are usually called the Hannam-dong line in Yeouido. I understand that I want to protect it, but I think it's okay to make such a light remark like a feather without any basis. It's bittersweet.

◆ Shin Yul: But the presidential office now tells us that the presidential line is the only presidential line.

◇ Shin Ji-ho: So we have no choice but to talk about it. That's what we did. Didn't you do something to admit it like this?

◆ Shin Yul: And is it that Kim Dae Nam? a former administrator There are some people in Yongsan here, too. Something like this. This recording came out right now, right?

◇ Shin Ji-ho: Yes. I heard it too, but don't you give an example of a person's name specifically? But I think some of them are right and some of them are wrong.

◆ So how do you watch it anyway? The presidential office, so some of the pro-Yoon and others are saying, "Why are you talking about that publicly? Why don't you just tell the presidential office privately?" How do you think about it? Isn't there a possibility that you've talked about it? Unofficially, you're standing on the side of CEO Han Dong-hoon?

◇ Shin Ji-ho: We've been talking informally. But isn't that already proven to us that we can't do that? It's a situation where we have no choice but to make it public. The reason why this is important is that when we talk about the relationship between the government and the government, what is the official channel for the party in Yongsan's presidential office? I'm the chief of staff, senior secretary for political affairs. The chief of staff is the senior secretary for political affairs, and they are not functioning properly for their original position, and the main reason is the Hannam-dong line. So, the reason why this is necessary is that the chief of staff, the senior secretary for political affairs, must play a role and function in accordance with his name, so that the relationship between the government and the government will be smooth. That's why it's important.

◆ Shin Yul: But how does the president's office listen to Han Dong-hoon?

◇ Shin Ji-ho: It's up to the president's office's judgment, but we're not asking too much, but if there's an organization, isn't our president's office the heart of our Korean power? The chief of staff Lee officially said that the heart department should be operated normally by the system. Oh, that person doesn't know. That's because I'm right. There's someone like this who listens to what I'm saying. It's not a normal organization.

◆ Sin-ryul: But it was reported today, and now the president's office is going to make a second annex. I remember saying that I couldn't make it because there was no place, but I said I would make it anyway. Then, will it be effective to make the second annex now? What do you think?

◇ Shin Ji-ho: It's late, but it's much better than not making it. However, there is a positive aspect in that Kim Gun-hee's activities come within a certain framework through the second annex, but there is a positive aspect in terms of raising the dark side of the shadow and institutionalizing it more. Since the public opinion in the market is so bad right now, didn't CEO Han Dong-hoon request to refrain from doing her activities? So for the time being, I think it's really necessary to limit the activities to the minimum of what the traditional first lady did.

◆ Shin Yul: Anyway, I think the president's office will be a little embarrassed because the recordings that he recorded with a reporter on the sound of Seoul will be released. Professor Jin Jung-kwon said he said this. So, messages and stuff are being released, but today, Myung Tae-kyun released this message. How do you see it? The content of that part is... It started from who you are. How do you watch it?

◇ Shin Ji-ho: Oh, so regardless of who he's referring to, I'm very heartbroken. I don't know what it would be like to say that Lee Myung-soo did something for seven hours during the presidential election, but wasn't it Kim Gun-hee's? Then I should have been more careful after that, but the luxury bag and the hidden camera prank got caught up again. Also, the ruling party lawmakers and politicians seem to be in that situation right now to the point where we don't know what to say. The text that was released today is also a bit of a mental breakdown.

◆ Shin Yul: But it's because my brother in there is ignorant. It's the official position of the presidential office that this brother is his brother over there. I referred to my brother. You have to believe it, but the authenticity of the message on this kakaotalk should be revealed later, but anyway, assuming that this kakaotalk is true, many people say that they think that. The president said he met Myung Tae-kyun twice because he met twice, but the contents of Kakao Talk are very close. Does this mean that the president's office's current response is a little less convincing? I think there's a part that makes you think like this, what do you think?

◇ Shin Ji-ho: I feel the same way. Didn't the official explanation of the president's office collapse in a day? I heard you met twice, but it's been revealed at least four times, and if you look at today's Kakao Talk content, I think there must have been more of that. So, if the presidential office's explanation is broken in that way in a day, it may not feel the least weight of the words. It may cause a crisis of governance, so I'm very worried. Among the Kakao Talk texts released today, it's important to know who the oppa is, the president or his own brother. Even if it's my brother, as explained by the president's office, I rely on him completely or his insight is outstanding. When we have a private meeting like this in our party, we use expressions like, "If you talk a little too much about Myung Tae-kyun, you're just a political junkie." And we shouldn't let this situation happen again somehow. So let's make a pollack prevention method.

◆ Shin Yul: CEO Han Dong-hoon did that.

◇ Shin Ji-ho: But the so-called Supreme Council members were all willing to agree and agree on that. But it's the target of making a preventive law, and I'm completely dependent on him. Your insight is outstanding. How would you feel when you encounter something like this?

◆ Shin Yul: But looking at the way things are going these days, we have to check whether it's true or not, but there are a lot of unilateral positions right now, but a lot of politicians called "Jamryong of the presidential election" are being mentioned. Do you think this will affect the presidential structure within the power of the people?

◇ Shin Ji-ho: I can't predict that. Looking at it now, the only person who is directly or indirectly intertwined with Myung Tae-kyun, regardless of the major politicians in our party, is Han Dong-hoon.

◆ Shin Yul: But I think there was a lot of activity.

◇ Shin Ji-ho: I think this person is very like that. But looking at this, the technique is usually to use public opinion polls, or when we talk in private, we play around with public opinion polls. I think a lot of politicians got involved because of how they massaged data. I think it's intertwined, but I think we need to change that now. I think this is old politics. So we need to break the vicious cycle of the system this time for sure, beyond someone's problem. That's what I think.

◆ Shin Yul: However, this situation is a little burdensome from the perspective of CEO Han Dong-hoon. It doesn't matter to me anyway, so in that respect, for example, in a private meeting with the president in the future, some analysts say that they can have a more relaxed position and have more time to contact other presidential candidates.

◇ Shin Ji-ho: Yes, that's a bit too much for us to say. I think there will be aspects that naturally differentiate in that way.

◆ Shin Yul: Okay. Myung Tae-kyun is saying this. I don't think it will be easy until the presidential election in the next two years, but we don't know what else will come out during the primary process.

◇ Shin Ji-ho: That's right. And the so-called "revealing" that came out today could be just the tip of the iceberg. There are a lot of sensitive information depending on what you think. There are some facts within that sensitive information, some facts, some exaggerations, and others are false facts. Many things will now be mixed and reversed, which will lead to considerable confusion within the ruling party, and the opposition party will take advantage of the gap to launch a massive political offensive, and the situation in Yeouido will be made worse by the problem of Myung Tae-kyun. I'm worried about this.

◆ Shin Yul: There's a breaking news right now. There is a breaking news that CEO Han Dong-hoon reiterated the need for a personnel reshuffle in the presidential office, saying that the measures I mentioned should be implemented in response to Myung Tae-kyun and Kim Gun-hee's Kakao Talk. So, from CEO Han Dong-hoon's point of view, in fact, it's not a situation where we can't leave this anymore.

◇ Shin Ji-ho: That's right. So, it's not just a few individuals who had contact with Myung Tae-kyun, but also the party as a whole, the ruling party, and the camp, right? So this time, I will surely break this old-fashioned politics link. If you make a method to prevent pollack bacteria and such things, you should conduct a large-scale clean-up campaign if necessary. That's what I think.

◆ Shin Yul: We invited other political critics to talk yesterday, and what they said is that tomorrow we have a by-election. However, if the power of the people fails in such a place as Busan Geumjeong, the presidential office will put pressure on representative Han Dong-hoon with this as a link.

◇ Shin Ji-ho: Those stories have been circulating in Yeouido. So, if you miss the head of Geumjeong-gu, you became the representative of Han Dong-hoon and pretended to be proud, but you can't protect it in that traditional dominant area, and you're not having a problem with your leadership. Some say that some kind of movement to bring down Han Dong-hoon will begin now, but we don't think that's going to happen. Before the text is released today, won't we still have some time left? As the opposition is unified now and public sentiment against the current government has deteriorated, we played a very dangerous game, but won't we still have a little left? I was thinking like this, but this text popped up. Isn't this just hitting the nation in real time today? So, I think this will affect the election of the head of Geumjeong-gu, Ganghwa-gun, and I think there are two things. One is that negatively, our party's traditional supporters are now sick of the fact that they even do this. I don't want to vote or anything. I might not be able to come out to the polls. Seeing that, there's a sense of crisis that doesn't end here. I might do something more. At times like this, I should go to the polls and make a place where I can block something from exercising my sovereignty. If we do it, we can be more active, and we honestly don't know which way the energy will work more strongly.

◆ Sin-ryul: That's right. Elections are not known about the results, but in the case of the Democratic Party of Korea, the current glory is that the progressive party is weak here and the Cho Kuk Innovation Party is happening very strongly. If the Democratic Party loses its glory, I think Lee Jae-myung's position will be shaken. How do you see it?

◇ Shin Ji-ho: So if we take the head of Geumjeong-gu, Ganghwa-gun, and if the Democratic Party fails to win the election in Yeonggwang, then we get the best results. And CEO Lee Jae-myung is the worst result.

◆ Shin Yul: But you're Yeonggwang County Mayor. It was like that in one election for the head of the county's basic government, or it's just shaking. .

◇ Shin Ji-ho: No, our party starts to fall down from the election of Gangseo-gu Mayor.

◆ Sin Yul: I see. Anyway, what do you think will happen in the future, Myung Tae Gyun?

◇ Shin Ji-ho: I don't know either. I was also in the presidential campaign in Yoon Suk Yeol, but this is the first time I heard the name Myung Taekyun. But he claims that he has dealt with a lot of very important things, but he has to consider whether it is true or not, so there will be a considerable impact depending on how far he will reveal his experiences.

◆ Sin-ryul: But this will continue in the future, but it's going to be a great burden for the passport to keep it alive. It's better to scoop it up quickly when you're shaking it off, but I don't think this is the right way to scoop it up.

◇ Shin Ji-ho: I think the president's office would be a little frustrating. Because other aides other than the President and his wife experienced the relationship between Myung Tae-kyun and the President and his wife, and how to know the facts exactly and deal with them. The aides should make, present, and implement such things, but most of the current Yongsan aides will not know because this happened when they were candidates.

◆ Sin Yul: That's the problem. While watching this, I thought that too. I wonder where the end is, but I think we'll have to wait and see for a while. Since the by-elections are held tomorrow, the head of the Strategic Planning Department is in charge of high-ranking officials, so I think you'll be busy, but I'll watch the results tomorrow anyway. Thank you for your words today.

◇ Shin Ji-ho: Thank you.

◆ Shin Yul: I was Shin Ji Ho, the head of the Strategic Planning Department of the People's Power.