[A head-to-head match] Kim Sung-tae said, "There should be an agreement between 尹 and South Korea."My close friend is pressuring me for "Leave the Room".

- Han Dong-hoon's unusually strong remarks on the "three demands." As if he is taking the current situation seriously
- There should be an agreement between 尹 and Han Dong-hoon and the government. State administration in a desperate crisis
- There have been no such difficult conditions in the past constitutional history of the ruling party leader-presidential meeting
- 尹 Korea-South Korea meeting? I can't sense it at all. . Usually, they meet in coordination.
- The conclusion that 'Mrs. Kim is not guilty' is unmistakable, public opinion is cold. The government and the government should change to
- Shin Ji-ho's 'Leave Vote'? Amid strong pressure on the close side's 'Mrs. Kim's Special Counsel Act,
- There is no way to stop Myung Tae-kyun's mouth. . What will be legally revealed should be revealed
- Private polls, there are so many in the party. There are definitely elements of harm in electoral democracy

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: October 18, 2024 (Friday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Dialogue: Kim Sung-tae, floor leader of the entire people's power,

◆ Shin Yul: YTN Radio's Shin Yul's news head-to-head match Friday begins Part 4. Kim Sung-tae, former floor leader of the People's Power, will meet in the front interview of the fourth part on Friday. Welcome, CEO.

◇ Kim Sung-tae: Yes, hello. I'm Kim Sung-tae.

◆ Shin Yul: But it's so chaotic these days, but didn't CEO Han Dong-hoon officially raise the three major demands regarding Mrs. Kim the day after the by-elections over there?

◇ [Kim Sung-tae] That's right. Now stop Kim Gun-hee's external activities. And renovate the personnel involved in the presidential office related to Kim Gun-wook. And now, cooperate procedurally with the investigation of suspicions on these issues that are causing considerable controversy among the people, such as Myung Tae-kyun and Kim Dae-nam.

◆ Sin Yul: How do you watch it?

◇ Kim Sung-tae: It is a remark that is quite unusually intense even if the leader of the ruling party is concerned about the president's approval rating for state administration, which is now at rock bottom and has lost considerable public trust. As such, CEO Han Dong-hoon seems to take the current situation a little seriously.

◆ Shin Yul: I personally think that the Busan Geumjeong was able to win Geumjeong-gu by more than 22 percentage points. I personally think that the separation strategy of the party and the presidential office, which representative Han Dong-hoon used, worked. That's why I thought at first glance that Han might have presented these things as an extension.

◇ Kim Sung-tae: As soon as the by-election ended the other day, the Supreme Council announced it publicly, not during a closed meeting, but after the by-election, he has already been promised to schedule a solo meeting with the president after the by-election. In his personal meeting with President Lee, which is scheduled to be held at 4:30 p.m. on the 21st of next Monday, he has clearly expressed his will to focus on these issues in addition to economic issues such as people's livelihoods and prices.

◆ Shin Yul: Since the CEO is talking about it, I'll ask him. The time has also been decided next Monday at 4:30 p.m. President Yoon Suk Yeol, representative Han Dong-hoon, and presidential chief of staff Jeong Jin-seok are now present and saying that they will do this now, what do you expect the results to be?

◇ Kim Sung-tae: It is no exaggeration to say that the party's position is that of Chairman Han Dong-hoon through the press secretary Park Jung-ha's meeting with the president next Monday. We will focus on the need for change and reform, the economy of people's livelihoods, and the issue of living. That's how the party officially stated its position today. As such, in my view, the current situation, especially now within that category, is quite a crisis right now in my view. That's why there's no room for a fight between the government and the government. I don't have the tendency to do that. So, the current situation is that the party has a serious violation of the public sentiment, shares exactly the perception with each other, and how to overcome it. In that sense, the role of the party and the desperate sincerity of maximizing the crisis management ability must be agreed upon.

◆ Shin-yul: I like everything about the marriage, but some say that since it is a ruling party, the public's responsiveness is sensitive and they have no choice but to react sensitively to public opinion, so President Yoon needs to listen to representative Han Dong-hoon and move according to representative Han Dong-hoon's opinion. What do you think?

◇ Kim Sung-tae: That's the wish of the people. In particular, our party's supporters have that atmosphere. In that respect, representative Han Dong-hoon said, "Let's adjust the number of medical schools from 2025, which has been one of the four reform tasks of President Yoon Suk Yeol, and let's solve this problem in the form of a parliamentary consultative body between the ruling and opposition parties." As such, there is no such easy agenda that President Chung can accept any of the three demands related to First Lady Kim Gun-hee. From what I can tell. In the past constitutional history, I haven't seen a meeting between the ruling party and the government under such difficult conditions. The reason why I do this is that the presidential political line and the party leader's office, Han Dong-hoon, usually coordinate agendas before the party's private meeting and how the president and the party leader will meet and wrap up warmly before the meeting is scheduled. But the current state is not in the condition to get that feeling at all. If you look at past cases, even if the president and the party leader have such a difficult meeting in person, they can yield and consider each other, and if they are united, the crisis can be overcome. Isn't there too many cases of relationship between YS and former representative Lee Hoi-chang and the Democratic Party of Korea, former president Roh Moo Hyun and representative Chung Dong-young? As such, in terms of our party and the government overcoming the desperate crisis, the president and the party leader Han Dong-hoon should never go to Nassing.

◆ Shin-yul: But actually yesterday, Kim Gun-hee was not prosecuted for the case related to the alleged manipulation of Deutsche Motors' stock price. Public opinion doesn't seem to be very positive about this, and I'll tell you this later, but more than 60% and more than 60% need an independent counsel from Kim Gun-hee. The results of the survey came out like this. How do you see it? I don't think it's going to be easy.

◇ Kim Sung-tae: The third bill of Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel. This is included in the scope of the existing eight special prosecutors' investigation

◆ Shin Yul: That included the suspicion of Myung Tae Kyun.

◇ [Kim Sung-tae] So, three more things went down and there were 11, right? That's why it's getting more and more calculated. Even for representative Han Dong-hoon today, it will not be easy to accept such a special prosecution bill. Didn't you take that position? However, it is certain that public opinion is quite cold. So, from the Democratic Party's point of view, Kim Gun-hee's special prosecution bill contains a considerable part of the special prosecution's argument to find and make a case of manipulation of state affairs from Kim Gun-hee, to put it simply, with President Yoon Suk Yeol's impeachment in mind from the beginning. In that respect, the public opinion continues to deteriorate, and even more so, the president rejected it twice as a request for a re-decision. In addition, as you mentioned earlier in the Gallup survey after Deutsche Motors' stock price manipulation case was cleared of indictment, it would be no exaggeration to say that public opinion is getting worse. That's why I know all about it through this meeting between the government and the government. I know everything, so I can melt the hearts of the people on any given line, and the government and the party have changed really, not the president's or the party's position to overcome this crisis. I have to do it so that I can feel this now.

◆ Sin-ryul: But. For example, the current independent counsel law is now proposed by the third independent counsel law, and the president's office will veto it, which will be handed over to the National Assembly again. How do you think there is a possibility that the number of leave votes will increase a little when at least two to four votes were cast last time?

◇ Kim Sung-tae: Shin Ji-ho, the party's vice president of strategy, is the core of Han Dong-geun's current speaker, which is a very meaningful story today in relation to Professor Shin Yul's words. So, if the party and the government do not make changes with the restoration of people's trust through a one-on-one meeting with the president next Monday, lawmakers' positions on the third independent counsel bill will also change considerably. It's a very significant story. In other words, the president should not have any perception so far. It should definitely be different. It's a pretty strong pressure. Politically, this did not come out of party leader Han Dong-hoon's mouth, but obviously, today, Strategy Vice-President Shin Ji-ho embodied the story through a certain media broadcast.

◆ Sin Yul: How do you see that? The special prosecutor of the Democratic Party of Korea has the position that representative Han Dong-hoon also has various toxic provisions, but rather than continuing to veto the special prosecution, I would rather ask the Minister of Justice to do the special prosecution if I have so many questions. It's the permanent special prosecutor. How do you watch this? This is a possibility.

◇ [Kim Sung-tae] That's the position of President Yoon Suk Yeol. The independent counsel's law, like the major issues in the prosecution's investigation into the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, the Dochi Motors stock price manipulation case, and other suspicions about Kim Gun-hee, if the investigation results come out from the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, it is confident that it is not accepted by the public and if it is insufficient, it will demand an independent counsel first. That's the president's last position.

◆ [Voiceover] Yeah, that's right.

◇ Kim Sung-tae: But in that respect, the investigation of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is really tough for the Democratic Party. In that respect, the public's power, including floor leader Choo Kyung-ho, should quickly release the results of the investigation by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. To put it simply, we have little reason to oppose this special prosecution if it is the result of insufficient investigation that the people understand and refuse to accept it, and the people are angry and resisting it amid many suspicions. This is the position of our party and the government. However, in that respect, the investigation of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Agency has been delayed, and it is now a situation where nothing can be done until then.

◆ Shin-yul: So, some people say that the president should come up with a permanent special prosecutor first, but looking at this, the suspicion of Myung Tae-kyun is appearing at the core right now. What do you think? Myung Tae Gyun said he would release 1 KakaoTalk on the 1st, but he hasn't released it for 3 days since he said that. How do you think it's going to end like this?

◇ [Kim Sung-tae] I'm very sorry to see this. Usually, in a parliamentary election, there is always a process, whether it is a process in which a member of the National Assembly is made locally or a presidential election process in which the president is made. Elections Many commonly referred to as political experts jump in to help the election, especially in the case of presidential elections. When they come, they never come. Like a paper or a poll like this, they try to gain trust in their skills and abilities. That's how I'm trying to create an opportunity for myself to participate in the election, but this is the message that Myung Tae-kyun is pouring out every day right now. Why are you guys driving me to be a political con man election broker, I'm not that kind of person. I once communicated with the president and first lady Kim Gun-hee so much. So don't drive me like that. I'm sending that message, and in that sense, the normal ruling party should not only trigger this but also various crisis management skills during this election process. Always supporting the president's state administration is not just words. Also, isn't it just a policy that the government puts out and defends it at the National Assembly? Backed by the president, supporting the successful state administration requires the party and the ability to solve and deal with the various processes in the election process. From the perspective of the people's power, that's what I'm very disappointed about. This is a prosecution investigation, in which former lawmaker Kim Young-sun and Myung Tae-kyun were in charge of accounting at the Changwon District Prosecutors' Office, and Kang Hye-kyung was exposed in the form of a public interest report by not only Myung Tae-kyun but also Kang Hye-kyung. This will lead to a specific crime, which should be prosecuted by the prosecution, which has the right to make legal judgments. In that respect, I hope that the prosecution's investigation will lead to such a rapid investigation that can clear the people's suspicions.

◆ Shin Yul: They say they will make the anti-microbial law from the people's power, but you've been a very multi-term lawmaker, so have you ever been dissatisfied with the polls?

◇ [Kim Sung-tae] That's right. It is a closed-door poll that is commonly said that this poll is the cost of nearly 370 million won in many polls used by Myung Tae-kyun. So, it was not a public opinion poll for the purpose of publication, but a process of checking and confirming the current state of the candidate he was interested in.

◆ Shin Yul: Originally, there are a lot of closed-door polls during elections. within the party

◇ [Kim Sung-tae] There are so many. With that, candidates usually use it a lot. Then, the pre-election campaign and the U.S. public opinion poll were in trouble. There are many cases where they are accused by the NEC for pre-political activities, and even if they are elected later, they are punished that are close to nullifying the election. That's why this poll is sometimes quite reliable, and it's not like the people held such a dark election, but it's a very good way to tell you how much the candidate I'm interested in gets and how much the other candidate gets. However, there are certainly elements of harm in election democracy that are also abused considerably.

◆ Shin Yul: How do you think we should solve the problem related to Myung Taekyun?

◇ Kim Sung-tae: There's no way to cover your mouth anymore. He is no longer a political broker or a fraud. I'm the one who helped the Yoon Suk Yeol presidential candidate in the presidential election, and in that sense, I played my part as a political consultant. That's the story. So he's quite like that now, but a lot of those things are quite embarrassing and quite difficult for the current state administration, especially the power of the ruling party. In the end, if these suspicions eventually lead to a situation where state administration is becoming increasingly difficult, we will clearly reveal these links through prosecution investigations, and if we are legally involved, we should apologize to the people for that and improve them.

◆ Shin Yul: Okay. That's all for today's talk. So far, Kim Sung-tae, former floor leader of the People's Power.