[A head-to-head match] Han Dong-hoon and Lee Jae-myung meeting? It appears to be a strategy to defend against allegations of justice.

- 尹 - South Korea talks? Not optimistic...It's difficult to meet once, but I hope you can turn the water on. - Kang Hye-kyung reveals suspicions of pollack bacteria in the National Assembly.I can't think of a solution, people's wounds will last a long time
- There are quite a few people in the form similar to pollack bacteria..Politicians must remain central and vigilant
- 尹 needs a bold change of attitude..The installation of the second annex will not dampen the antipathy
- Mrs. Kim Gun-hee should be investigated by a special prosecutor.You should be responsible for doing something wrong in cooperation with the investigation
- As a former lawyer, I strongly doubt Lee Jae-myung's crime.The conclusion should be made quickly: ∀, 尹, South Korea will collapse during empty-handed talks.We should take preemptive responsibility for First Lady Kim Gun-hee
- First Lady Kim Gun-hee should be investigated by a special prosecutor.No halves will be reduced due to the installation of the second annex

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: October 18, 2024 (Friday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Dialogue: Professor Bae Jong-ho of Se University, lawyer Choi Jin-nyeong

* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.


◆ Shin Yul: Shin Yul's news scene competition part 2 begins. I've told you several times that it's the listening rate survey period these days. We'd really appreciate it if you could answer the phone call with area code 02 and answer to YTN radio that you're listening to Shin Yul's news head-to-head match. I'm Lee Sang-min, former lawmaker of the People's Power, who will meet in the second part of the head-to-head interview today. I'm on the phone right now. Hello, Senator.

◇ Lee Sang-min: Yes, hello.

◆ Shin Yul: How are you doing these days?

◇ Lee Sang-min: These days, in Daejeon,

◆ Shin Yul: Yes, of course, your district is over there.

◇ Lee Sang-min: Since he is the chairman of the city party, isn't his job originally a lawyer? So I'm preparing to open a lawyer in Daejeon.

◆ [Voiceover] I see. President Yoon Suk Yeol and Representative Han Dong-hoon started meeting at 4:52 a.m. a little while ago. Do you think the conclusion will come out?

◇ Lee Sang-min: I'm not that optimistic. Because President Yoon Suk Yeol has been adamant about his position so far, it does not meet the demands of the majority of the people, does it? So, representative Han Dong-hoon is not so optimistic that it will be so easy to meet the president alone to represent the will of the people and observe it, but I also think it could be a watermark anyway.

◆ Shin-yul: I have a lot of questions to ask, but the meeting between President Yoon and Representative Han Dong-hoon is of great interest. When this person named Kang Hye-kyung attends the National Assembly Judiciary Committee's parliamentary inspection, everyone talks about her. We can say that this is a subjective argument in Kang Hye-kyung's parliamentary inspection. So far, what do you think of this phenomenon?

◇ Lee Sang-min: I think it is causing a lot of frustration and disappointment from the people by maximizing the appearance of distortion in Korean politics. So, it's a pity that politics is regressing rather than contributing to solving certain problems and going a little further.

◆ Shin Yul: So in the end, people like Myung Tae-kyun and Kang Hye-kyung came to the forefront of politics, but I think there's a lot of talk here. What do you think is the way to fix this, even though the captains say it?

◇ Lee Sang-min: What method?

◆ Sin-ryul: So it's a settlement. For example, Myung Taekyun keeps talking, and Kang Hye-kyung is in the National Assembly today and keeps talking. Shouldn't someone take care of this?

◇ Lee Sang-min: I can't think of any tricks either. Since it shows such a mess and mess, isn't this situation showing disruptions and retrograde in Korean politics? And just because one or two people stop it doesn't solve it, and just because one or two people keep changing their posture and improving it doesn't solve the people's wounds, and I think the wounds will last a long time anyway.

◆ Shin Yul: Have you ever seen people playing a role similar to Myung Taekyun's in politics?

◇ Lee Sang-min: There are quite a few people who show similar behaviors. They also have a lot of votes. In any case, there are people who approach while talking and pandering to it, so if politicians keep their center and are not vigilant like this, they will come out, and later on, they will just show all sorts of retrograde sides. such people

◆ Shin-yul: But actually, today's meeting between President Yoon and Representative Han Dong-hoon, and what's more, I think that the central thing here is also the Kim Gun-hee issue, and the related suspicions that Myung Tae-kyun claims are also centered on Kim Gun-hee. Didn't CEO Han Dong-hoon talk about three requirements regarding Mrs. Kim here? But there seems to be an opinion that one of these three requirements should be done properly, so what do you think?

◇ Lee Sang-min: Anyway, the requirements are the minimum requirements for the people according to CEO Han Dong-hoon's words, and I don't think all of them will be resolved in a short time. It is necessary for the president of the same Yoon Suk Yeol to change his position on a large scale, and anyway, isn't it only coming out of public opinion collection and election results? Since President
Yoon Suk Yeol is the one who is leading the state administration anyway, don't you think the problems of First Lady Kim Gun-hee are also very much focused on the president's leadership in state administration? So I think the president needs a very bold change of attitude.

◆ Sin Yul: Let me ask you this in a bold and bold manner. The presidential office is building a second vice-presidential office. And I'll apologize if I need it. But how do you think this is enough? How much do you think the public opinion will be able to understand the issue of Kim Gun-hee by creating a second annex? What do you think?

◇ Lee Sang-min: I don't think it's going to be easy. I don't think an apology by Mrs. Kim Gun-hee will calm the anger or antipathy of the people. In fact, I think we should cooperate with the truth about it and take legal responsibility for it. However, if there aren't many such things, wouldn't it be possible to take off such an accusation and step up confidently after that? Now, many people, including CEO Han Dong-hoon, are saying, "Don't do public activities with distrust and antipathy toward Mrs. Kim Gun-hee." In fact, we can't avoid that because many people, including CEO Han Dong-hoon, are talking about it.

◆ Shin-ryul: So that means, whether it's a permanent special prosecutor or a special prosecutor, we need to be investigated by this special prosecutor. Can I understand this?

◇ Lee Sang-min: Yes, that's right. I think the prosecution was just crushing it without a conclusion without a reasonable reason to be so disheveled and stretched. That's why the prosecution is also responsible. You should have done as much as you can with your own ability and come to a conclusion, but how many years has it been? People around the president continue to do so, but if they can't reach a conclusion even when they were president of Moon Jae In, they should come to a conclusion. Then

◆ Sin Yul: That's why you're not prosecuted. That's why you didn't indict him, right?

◇ Lee Sang-min: But now I think that the prosecution's continued crushing and dragging its feet has allowed the suspicion to be amplified and reproduced, and the situation has become more twisted.

◆ Sin-ryul: So you can see that it's necessary to tie a knot through a special prosecutor or a permanent special prosecutor. Right?

◇ Lee Sang-min: I think that's inevitable. Now that the conclusion has come out, there will be a lot of talks about whether you believe it or not, but anyway, you have to do that. So if Mrs. Kim Gun-hee is not responsible and it wasn't really anything, shouldn't she explain herself confidently and cooperate with the investigation? If there's something wrong, shouldn't she take responsibility and do it? clearly

◆ Shin Yul: And today, Lee Jae-myung, chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea, proposed a meeting between the ruling and opposition party leaders to Han Dong-hoon, and Han Dong-hoon responded in three hours. What is the idea of the side that proposed to these two sides and what is the idea of the side that accepted it? What do you think?

◇ Lee Sang-min: I think the Democratic Party of Korea and Chairman Lee Jae-myung's plan came from a strategy to defend their representative judicial suspicions, but the people's power or the president's side resolve the suspicion by doing this with the Democratic Party. You shouldn't think that you're going to sort this out at this level. The people are against it.

◆ Shin Yul: That's okay. You don't have to hold my cough. Just do it. Yes, it's okay.

◇ Lee Sang-min: I don't think the dissatisfaction or antipathy of the people will subside, so I think the president of Yoon Suk Yeol and the people should preemptively solve and solve this problem, whether it be a special prosecutor, so that the president can control and lead the state affairs.

◆ Shin Yul: You said that the Democratic Party of Korea's thoughts are now, but what do you expect from the first trial on November 15th and 25th?

◇ Lee Sang-min: I'm a person who has strong doubts about CEO Lee Jae-myung's alleged crimes for a long time, so isn't the result that I was a lawyer? That's why I think it's common sense to be guilty and it fits the law of the law. If that's the case, ordinary citizens should have already been sentenced. After that, the court is dragging its feet and there is an intensive hearing that it is a trial, and if you look at it, you should strategically proceed with the trial and finish it quickly. Wouldn't you think that if you drag it like that, you are dreaming of any appearance? Today, the prosecution and the court are quite politicized and in a hurry to look at their faces, so I think the court should conclude not only quickly but also other things quickly.

◆ Sin-ryul: Some people say this. From Lee Jae-myung's point of view, he called for a meeting with the ruling party leader to appeal to the middle class while preparing for the results of the first trial from mid-November to late November, and the reason why the ruling party leader Han Dong-hoon accepted it was to more clearly capture the initiative in the party and the government through talks with Lee Jae-myung. Do you agree with this analysis?

◇ Lee Sang-min: I'm not sure. I can't believe the position and attitude of CEO Lee Jae-myung because he is such a late person. Anyway, since it is President Yoon Suk Yeol who should lead the state administration now and the ruling party should do it preemptively, who will suffer the damage of President Yoon Suk Yeol being attacked by opposition parties and slowing down the state administration? Aren't they the people? Therefore, I think that the power of the President of Yoon Suk Yeol and the people should be preemptively and quickly shaken off.

◆ Sin Yul: This is the assumption, but if this meeting between you two now lasts for more than an hour. But how will it affect the political situation in the future if we only check our differences?

◇ Lee Sang-min: Then. So, it will be a rare meeting, and even now, the power of the people and President Kim Gun-hee should quickly grasp the current situation and think about losing something small, so I'm worried about missing something big.

◆ Shin-ryul: Some say that if you do not reach an agreement in any part today and the two of you break up, from the perspective of the people's power, you have no choice but to take a more responsive path to respond to public opinion. Do you agree with the analysis that the story has no choice but to take a different path from the presidential office?

◇ Lee Sang-min: Then it's completely ruined.

◆ Sin-ryul: Then it's all ruined.

◇ Lee Sang-min: I don't think so in situations where it's not that. Anyway, I'm looking forward to doing my best, but I wonder if that's the case.

◆ Sin-ryul: What happens to the process of failure when the party and the presidential office take different paths? How does it fail? This is

◇ Lee Sang-min: What you can imagine is that Yoon Suk Yeol's side will defect from the party with its supporters and try to do political justice by reporting on its own, but what will happen to the president's leadership? It's something I don't even want to imagine. Anyway, President Yoon Suk Yeol is a confident person, so if he took the presidency, I think it is necessary to take preemptive measures that meet the public's expectations. The answer now is obvious. If there is anything wrong with such preemptive robbing of First Lady Kim Gun-hee and doing something wrong, I think we should take responsibility and do so.

◆ Shin Yul: One more simple thing. Do you think there's more pro-Yoon in the party? How do you see it? within the People's Power[∀}{∀
◇ Lee Sang-min: Except for a few people who are leading the way, everyone has to look at the people's faces, and neither side is stable in the party right now, right? In fact, the family of one or two representatives is not that strong, so I think it's just because they have presidential power.

◆ Shin Yul: So there won't be that many pro-Yoon actually. This is how you see it. I see.

◇ Lee Sang-min: There is also a view from the residents, but I think it is difficult to form a political faction by just joining together.

◆ Shin Yul: Yes, I understand. Senator, thank you very much for your words today. Thank you.

◇ Lee Sang-min: Yes, thank you.

◆ Shin Yul: Until now, it has been Lee Sang-min, former lawmaker of the People's Power. Shin Yul's news head-to-head match, part 2, will be reduced here. In a little while, at 6 o'clock, listen to the news delivered by announcer Choi Yoo-hee. I'll see you again in Part 3.