[News fighting] Cho Won-jin said, "Isn't Yoon Han 'Empty-handed meeting'?""Looking forward to the 2nd and 3rd meeting".

[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: October 23, 2024 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast: Cho Won-jin, Representative of the Republican Party

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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee, the news fighting. It starts with the end of part two on Wednesday. Cho Won-jin, the representative of the Republican Party, came out. Hello,

◇ Our Republican Party Chairman Cho Won-jin (hereinafter referred to as Cho Won-jin): Nice to meet you.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Let me ask you the first question. The president and the leader of the ruling party met. It was an empty-handed meeting. There was little income. There are also evaluations like this, but does the meeting between the president and the ruling party leader have to become such a hot topic?

◇ Cho Won-jin: It's a hot topic. Because I'm representative of Han Dong-hoon. But I'm going to have an interview. But I said that there was no big achievement, but in fact, meeting is an achievement in itself. And CEO Han Dong-hoon said everything he had to say, and President Yoon clearly talked about President Yoon's position. Then we each go to Ganghwa and Busan. In that regard, they have different positions, but when it comes to not breaking the big frame, we expect there will be a second and third meeting, and the other is that President Yoon did everything he could as representative Han Dong-hoon and gave him everything he could to answer. How we think about each other and how we respond to that question is now a credit to the two.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: As you said, CEO Han Dong-hoon said he said he had said everything he had to say, but hearing that, When the president and representative Lee Jae-myung met last time, didn't representative Lee Jae-myung also deliver his prepared message? I have that sense of deja vu.

◇ Cho Won-jin: Well, CEO Lee Jae-myung is a deliberate provocation, and CEO Han Dong-hoon is a little inexperienced, but he said everything he had to say outside. The fact that he delivered it to the president specifically in his own mouth is not so bad from the perspective of the ruling camp. Do this. They say they're empty-handed, go back to each other, and turn completely, but they don't go like that.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Representative Han publicly demanded three agendas related to Mrs. Kim, including refraining from activities and cooperating with measures that require personnel reform, to which President Yoon replied. First of all, isn't it already a sign of restraint about Mrs. Kim's restraint? I answered that I was very tired and lost my motivation. How do you think there won't be any activities for a while?

◇ Cho Won-jin: You should refrain from activities more. Then since there are direct messages with Mrs. Kim that this is a pollack problem, please refrain a little more and lose your motivation. But don't you think it's better to take care of your health? There are situations that can't be helped in diplomacy or things like this, but otherwise, it's better to control yourself more. That's what I'm thinking.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Regarding the personnel reform issue proposed by CEO Han, he replied, "If you post the report to the senior secretary for political affairs or to someone else, I will take action if necessary." How do you see this part?

◇Jo Won-jin: I'm sure CEO Han Dong-hoon said it all. Didn't you say all 8 of us? Then CEO Han Dong-hoon was denied the ball by asking for such a formal procedure. Don't think about this and if you asked me to step on it again, you can step on it again. It's a problem of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol without organizing it, and representative Han Dong-hoon. There was no representative of the ruling party that talked about personnel reform. while specifically presenting a list But President Yoon received it. If that's the case, I didn't ignore it at all, but I received it, so as representative Han Dong-hoon, you can write down the details as President Yoon said, write down a clear story, not a rumor, and deliver it to Yongsan. The ball is handed over to Yongsan, and people who may be misunderstood in Yongsan should take some human measures.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Because we can't just make him step down with suspicions

◇Jo Won-jin: For more information, the Yongsan autonomous government organized related people before that. President Yoon said, "If that's right, we'll renovate our personnel." Regardless of whether it should be in that area or not, we met and the follow-up is after this. It's not a matter of meeting and organizing it right away, but the president talked about the outside activities about Mrs. Kim Gun-hee. be restrained Then it's better to hold back more. This is the position. I then asked for a list of personnel reform issues, so if you write it down clearly and have a clear basis, President Yoon will take personal action. That's what I'm looking at.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then it was the empty-handed meeting I asked you about at first. There was little income. It's not this kind of evaluation.

◇ Cho Won-jin: No. Because the meeting itself will be an empty-handed meeting that I'm talking about, there's no immediate result, but there's a meeting itself, and we can continue to meet for the second and third time. It is not so bad that Yongsan, where the ruling party is in power, and Han Dong-hoon, the leader of the People's Power, run around for the sake of people's livelihoods. That's how you look at it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But actually yesterday morning. Representative Han Dong-hoon canceled the morning schedule urgently and went back to the reinforcement schedule after it was reported that the president's answer came out. What is the meaning of this move after canceling CEO Han Dong-hoon's action schedule and pushing ahead with the schedule again?

◇ Cho Won-jin: This is what you can do as a representative of Han Dong-hoon. But how much do I know about politics by representative Han Dong-hoon? Complex situations are a bit noisy around. Shin Ji-ho, the Vice Strategy Minister, and Kim Jong-hyuk, the Supreme Council member, are a little noisy. This issue is not a matter to be noisy, but it is meaningful for the meeting itself, and it is helpful for representative Han Dong-hoon to see the president's next follow-up measures on the one hand. The words are too light and loud. They are never helpful actions for CEO Han Dong-hoon. It may be this frustrating, but the politics of the conservative ruling party is a little frustrating. But I hope that the decisions will touch the public. That's what I think.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: And CEO Lee Han Dong-hoon had an emergency dinner meeting with 20 people from his close circle yesterday. It's a schedule that didn't exist in the evening. Why do we have this dinner?

◇ Cho Won-jin: We should keep having more. I've met more people, whether they're close or not, and meeting about 20 close people doesn't have a big impact on the trend, but it can give a little impetus to Yongsan. Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel law will also be introduced by the opposition party, but at this point, representative Han Dong-hoon was not satisfied. However, I will continue to go from the public's perspective. Isn't President Yoon going to Busan and going even if he gets stoned? That expression is a bit awkward, but anyway, even if you get stoned, you have to get it right for the people. I think it's not right to be a stone for Mrs. Kim Gun-hee.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Isn't the meaning of yesterday's emergency dinner meeting actually meant to some president of representative Han Dong-hoon? It's right to have that kind of meeting, but yesterday's meeting.

◇ Cho Won-jin: I will also pressure Yongsan with the independent counsel's departure vote for the part where representative Han Dong-hoon should be a little careful with his words. I don't think that's right. Also, we wouldn't have met and talked about the special prosecutor's part. If you say that and then the wrong result comes out, CEO Han Dong-hoon should take all the burden, but you can say that I met almost all the lawmakers during the last Park Geun Hye administration. However, you must wisely organize these problems around you. Otherwise, it is not right to go to the destruction of conservatism.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then, is it expected to be the departure vote of those 20 people?

◇ Cho Won-jin: I can't leave.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You can't leave. It's not a special meaning. You're evaluating it like this, right?

◇ Cho Won-jin: I have someone to talk to. I think it's this much, but the people outside are too loud than the people on the floor. It's the same with the impeachment of Park Geun Hye's president. The person outside was louder. So, you need to refrain from those parts, but use them as a teacher and watch them. Look back at that time. I'd like to say something about how big a storm it is.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. On the day of the meeting with the president, representative Han Dong-hoon asked Lee Jae-myung to meet with representative Han Dong-hoon well and let's meet again. CEO Han responded, "Let's meet in 3 hours." Did he get caught by CEO Lee's intention?

◇ Cho Won-jin: Even if it fell under Lee's target, Han's partner in the National Assembly party is Lee Jae-myung. President Yoon met with Representative Lee Jae-myung last time, but he didn't get a good result, did he? As I always say, at any time, CEO Han Dong-hoon should put his head together and continue to discuss with CEO Lee Jae-myung. It's the position as the representative of the ruling and opposition parties, and whether it's just three hours or three days, it doesn't mean much. From Han Dong-hoon's point of view, he must have thought that he didn't make much progress when he went. So, I met with CEO Lee Jae-myung in three hours. That means I don't have a big meaning, and I think it's okay to meet.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Why did CEO Lee Jae-myung suggest that meeting that day?

◇ Cho Won-jin: Representative Lee Jae-myung threw a more difficult attack on representative Han. I don't have a big problem if representative Han receives it, and I need the help of the opposition party in relation to the ruling and opposition parties' political consultative body and medical cooperation soon. In addition, after the parliamentary audit of the budget National Assembly, various parts are the moment when the ruling party's representative is Eul. That's why it's good to meet the opposition leader with 180 seats as the leader of the ruling party.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Anyway, CEO Han Dong-hoon did not get caught in Lee Jae-myung's attempt. It's something you have to do anyway.

◇ Cho Won-jin: Anyway, the opposition leader has no choice but to have time to meet with Gap.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. I see. Controversy continues over Myung Tae-kyun's alleged intervention in the nomination of Kim Gun-hee. He is a witness who reported Myung to this parliamentary audit. Kang Hye-kyung attended and spoke. I also released the list. And I heard her have a spiritual conversation with Kim Gun-hee. There's a story that you've seen before. How did you hear these testimonies?

◇Jo Won-jin: If you look at Myung Tae-kyun's story for a moment, I know him well, but he helped me hard. And I helped him without self-interest, but he was abandoned. But he was abandoned, but he was abandoned dirty. That's how I feel. He has a daughter, and his father-in-law's mother-in-law comes and cries at home, so it is very difficult for him to sleep in a humane way.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Dirtyly abandoned What do you mean?

◇ Cho Won-jin: Even if I just betray, for example, my aides frame me in a very bad way and abandon me. I'm a person who has this position, so I can't control my emotions. Another thing is that I heard about Kang Hye-kyung's part on the phone directly is someone who has a lot of problems, but it is not right to do this to avoid it. When it comes to that, you can clearly tell us about Kang Hye-kyung's position. Since he said this to me, I hope you can leave it alone. Kim Jae-won keeps talking with the best or revealing the bare faces of existing conservative politicians. I think it would be good for conservative politicians to wake up a little with the presidential candidate group.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: As you said, Myung Tae-kyun has a lot of problems with Kang Hye-kyung. You said you could testify, but Kang Hye-kyung said, "What do you think, because former lawmakers Myung Tae-kyun and Kim Young-sun told you to blame yourself?"

◇ Cho Won-jin: The truth will be revealed. Because there was also an investigation by the NEC, and in the end, there is a reason why the opposition party is doing it as a public interest informant. In many ways, Kang Hye-kyung's problem is that of Myung Tae-kyun, Kang Hye-kyung, and Kim Young-sun. Then, what kind of things will come out between the three parties, and the other is that the truth will be revealed because all three of them are in the investigation anyway.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: The list of 27 people on the list of pollack bacteria that Kang Hye-kyung made a deal with has been released. There are a lot of opposition parties here. Starting with Rep. Lee Joon-seok, Rep. Lee Eon-joo was mentioned, and even Rep. Ahn Cheol Soo was mentioned. Representative Ahn Cheol Soo expressed his position again, saying that he had not requested a poll or received help from the nomination. Is the list of 27 true?

◇ Cho Won-jin: You are the one who is related. And Myung Tae-kyun is not a person who talks about things that don't exist, but it's a little hard to control your emotions and the way you communicate your thoughts is a little wrong, and sometimes you go overboard, but you're not a person who talks about things that don't exist at all. That's how you look at it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Myung Tae-kyun revealed the contents of the messenger conversation additionally. It seems that Mrs. Kim sent the contents of the stabbing to Mr. Myung Tae-kyun, how did you see it?

◇ Cho Won-jin: It was a relationship that Mrs. Kim and Myung Tae-kyun trusted each other. Not now, but I think you can look at it in that position. Myung Taekyun said that. I keep talking about money, but there was a poll called Heo Management's 'Hello, Heo Management'. Myung Tae-kyun took the poll. So, it was misrepresented that let's split the profit in half. The stories about that are about Myung Taekyun. The profit was 60 million won at a time, and according to the class, it was 3,000, I did it twice. I don't know those kinds of things. The pollack told me. I had no problem with the money issue, so I was surprised to talk about Heo Kyung-young while talking about his unfairness, saying, "Who will have a problem if the police and prosecution investigate?"

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But. When it comes to whether Myung Tae-kyun himself has the credibility of his remarks, he gives it to the media, but the next day, he says he's not alone. Also, lawmakers on this list refute that all of them are false.

◇ Cho Won-jin: If it's false, you can file a complaint. Oh Se-hoon also prepared a complaint, so you can file a complaint and do the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo. I can't do it. It's not that there's no basis for that. Myung Tae-kyun can talk too much or inflate it, but it's not a story that doesn't exist. And now you don't have to keep stimulating. That's what I think. If Myeong Tae-kyun's case in Yongsan-do breaks out, I fought for about five years during the Moon Jae In administration, but I was not invited to the inauguration ceremony of the Yongsan Yoon Suk Yeol president, and although they are separated even with the power of the people, but to Myung Tae-kyun, there is no conservative politician in the people's power or lawmakers on the right to say, "You're still on the right, so please refrain." That's how cowardly you are. I use it when I use it and throw it away when I throw it away, but can I throw it away dirty, too? Even if the relationship is bad, I should protect my emotional line to some extent, and if a person named me comes forward and tells me to refrain from looking at Myung Tae-kyun, I think I should reflect on myself.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. I see. Let's move on to the next news. Mrs. Kim's alleged manipulation of Deutsche Motors' stock price has not been indicted. Even though Prosecutor General Shim Woo-jung is excluded from the right to command the investigation. If you appeal, I will lead the investigation. What does this mean when I talked about it at the parliamentary audit?

◇ Cho Won-jin: If you appeal, you will now have the right to command the investigation. Because it comes naturally, he has the right to command the investigation, but he does not direct the investigation into this big problem and stays still. That's dereliction of duty.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But what does it mean to appeal when you are not charged?

◇ Cho Won-jin: Of course, people in the opposition party will appeal. Then, if you appeal, it means that you will exercise your right to command the investigation as the prosecutor general. In terms of that command, if the command is invoked from the wrong perspective, it should not be viewed from this perspective whether the parts of Kim Gun-hee's detention will be pushed further. Can't the prosecution organization and the prosecution of the current prosecutor general think of the following? To do that, we need to be fair. Even if you feel that way, I want to tell you that you should be fair.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: The indictment was not fair now. Is this what you mean?

◇Jo Won-jin: No. Isn't it fair? The prosecutor general or the prosecutor general cannot direct the investigation prosecutor like this. The president can't do that as a front-line prosecutor, but he can't do it as a prosecutor general. That's why front-line prosecutors are that expression. I did my best. I did my best. I want to focus on that part.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. The Democratic Party says it will push for impeachment against the prosecutor general. Do you really want to push for impeachment?

◇ Cho Won-jin: Let's push for impeachment. It's not going to work.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: What does it mean to say no?

◇ Cho Won-jin: The impeachment motion can be passed, but will it result in the impeachment of the prosecutor general? That is the political aim of the Democratic Party. It is politically intertwined with representative Lee Jae-myung. I think so, but on the one hand, there is not much the Democrats can do. You're going to investigate yourself, you don't have much time, you're going to do everything you can. Isn't this the position?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: We don't have time today either. I think I have to stop here today. All with our Republican Party leader Cho Won-jin. Thank you.