[News fighting] Kim Jong Hyuk, "尹, there's an important dinner.Is that a staff dinner? "I don't understand".

[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: October 23, 2024 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Starter: Kim Jong-hyuk, Supreme Council member of the People's Power

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[YTN Radio <News Fighting, Bae Seunghee]> Please reveal that it's about the interview.
◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee, the news fighting. The third part starts. Since the meeting between President Yoon and representative Han Dong-hoon, there has been a growing rupture in the relationship between the ruling party and the government. This kind of evaluation is coming out. Inside the People's Power, there may be more votes to leave if the independent counsel law is re-evaluated. These concerns are also raised. He is considered a close friend and messenger of CEO Han Dong-hoon. Let's connect Kim Jong-hyuk, the supreme council member of the People's Power, and listen to his entry. Are you here?

◇Kim Jong-hyuk, Supreme Council Member for People's Power (hereinafter referred to as Kim Jong-hyuk): Yes, hello. Anchor

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, I'm doing well. Is the power situation of the people bad these days? Is it a good thing?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: I am very sorry to the people because it seems that they are showing various aspects of conflict in the relationship between the ruling party and the government, rather than the situation of the power of the people. I also apologize to our party members. I hope that we will be able to overcome the conflict between the party and the government quickly and overcome various issues such as people's livelihoods and diplomatic security crises.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. However, the conflict is showing signs of deepening. Representative Han Dong-hoon canceled the schedule yesterday morning and held an emergency meeting of close lawmakers in the evening. How do I interpret this?

◇Kim Jong-hyuk: It wasn't called by the CEO to have dinner with close people last night. Now, I want to hear some lawmakers go to Yongsan in the afternoon and what was actually said and what was their reaction. And to the effect that the party is being treated too lightly, let's keep in touch with those around us and listen to them when they gather. So contact the representative as well. So I contacted the CEO and he said he would do that. If you're curious, I said I'd tell you, but it's the current audit period. There were people who went to the countryside, so I thought about how many people would gather, but I went a little late, and about 20 people came. So, most of the stories such as what the CEO told the president about what happened and how his reaction was, were reported by the media all day yesterday. I explained a bit about those parts.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I want to hear the explanation firsthand. There was this part. CEO Han Dong-hoon will convene an expanded party meeting today. Can we talk about the same thing as yesterday here?

◇Kim Jong-hyuk: But this was also scheduled a long time ago because the expanded party meeting was originally supposed to be held on a quarterly basis. So, this has nothing to do with the meeting between the president yesterday and the representative Han the day before. We're just all together and doing it while looking at that face.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Do you mean that CEO Han Dong-hoon is not at all responding to what kind of angle he is setting with the president?

◇Kim Jong-hyuk: It's not true that we had dinner meetings or extended party meeting to set the angle. So, the expanded party meeting was already scheduled a long time ago on a quarterly basis, and last night's meeting was not convened by Han, but the lawmakers wanted to hear from Han. And by asking how the atmosphere was, representative Han responded to it, and more lawmakers came to it than expected, so the media paid more attention.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You also participated in yesterday's dinner, was there anything that wasn't disclosed to the media?

◇Kim Jong-hyuk: No. I went a little late yesterday. I don't know what was said in the front part because I had a previous engagement, but when I asked, what did you say in the front part? So there was nothing special, and the lawmakers asked about the media reports and then the representative said this. He told me that it was like that.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. CEO Han Dong-hoon will also solve the problem without avoiding the public sentiment. It seems that Kim Gun-hee has expressed her willingness to break through on the issue. What does this mean?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: There is a sense of crisis in our party. The same is true of the last general election, but in fact, in the two and a half years since the inauguration of the Yoon Suk Yeol government, the Kim Gun-hee issue has sucked in all other issues like a black hole. There are a lot of things that President Yoon Suk Yeol did well. For example, we've normalized Korea-U.S.-Japan relations and restored the nuclear power plant ecosystem that the Moon Jae In government destroyed, so we're also working hard to export overseas, aren't we? In addition, defense companies are exporting our weapons to many countries. Anyway, there are many parts that are good at, and these things fall into the so-called Kim Gun-hee black hole, and everything is sucked into it. So, from the party's point of view, there is such a sense of crisis and urgency that if the arrangement of Kim Gun-hee's part is not completed, the situation similar to that of the next two and a half years will continue. That's why I'm asking the president to organize this part somehow. This is a relationship between the president and his wife, so isn't it a problem that other people can't even intervene? In that respect, the conflict with doctors, legislative conflicts, and female issues were intended to find a way to discuss and organize this candidly through a private meeting or through a meeting.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Kim Gun-hee was constantly mentioned, but President Yoon has already refrained a lot from calling for Kim Gun-hee to refrain from her activities, and will continue to do so. I said that I would know if I saw it. Do you think Mrs. Kim Geon-hee will refrain from activities? Did he also accept CEO Han Dong-hoon's position?

◇Kim Jong-hyuk: No. Well, it doesn't matter if you accept it or not. How the people see it is the most important thing. But didn't you say publicly before the presidential election that Mrs. Kim Gun-hee will only focus on internal affairs? But those things weren't kept at all. It is also true that after the inauguration of the President, and after the inauguration of the Government, the activities of the First Lady continued to come up in the air, and there was something that many people were concerned about. In particular, it is true that people who are not in public office go to Mapo Bridge and appear to call the police in public office to instruct them, and such things gave a very hot feeling to many people. As for the woman, it was revealed that all the photos distributed in Yongsan were distributed around the woman, and that people close to her were doing various activities, and that Kim Dae-nam, a former Blue House worker, was around the woman. This time, a person named Myung Tae-kyun is making a fuss outside, saying, "There was a controversy over some nomination with the woman, and there was such an order from the woman." All of these are actually creating some foundation for public sentiment to be violated. Therefore, these parts need to be organized somehow. The president said that he will not be active and will not do so, but in reality, wouldn't this continue to expose pollack bacteria? Even if the president said so, in reality, this revelation continues, so it can be said that countermeasures are needed.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Among what you mentioned, I think Mrs. Kim Gun-hee's actions can be divided into two. First of all, isn't there an event where the couple has no choice but to go together? Are you saying that you can do that now, but you can't take Kim Gun-hee alone?

◇Kim Jong-hyuk: No, so who would go with the president on a state visit as his wife and the people would say something like that? It's weird to say something about it. However, as well as the activities surrounding you, there are some points that you actually influence a lot of people by texting with a lot of people or talking on the phone, so these things need to be sorted out.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: This revelation actually happened in the past and not in the present, right?

◇Kim Jong-hyuk: That's something we don't know. Because we didn't know what happened in the past, right? How do we know you were texting like that and talking about it like that? Isn't it coming out right now?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's a past move

◇Kim Jong-hyuk: We did it in the past, but we don't know what we're doing now. How do you know who you're texting with and what you're talking about and how it's going to pop out later on? So, explicitly, we need a statement or a declaration that ties a knot in those areas to all the people.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: So, as CEO Han Dong-hoon said, it's called the women's line. He called the Hannam-dong Line and asked for personnel reform, mentioning the real names of eight people. The president said he would present specific issues and then make a judgment. If this happens, there is an interpretation that President Yoon did not reject it. What do you think?

◇Kim Jong-hyuk: I don't know. I sincerely hope that the President will make such a decision. I don't think it's right to argue that there's no wind while the branches are shaking. For example, I think the story about Kim's line secretaries in Yongsan was confirmed by the media when Prime Minister Park Young-sun and Chief of Staff Yang Jeong-cheol came out last time. Because the chief of staff said that there was no such fact, but the secretaries even confirmed that it was right. I understand that the article was published by the secretaries, and even though they deny that they are not the chief of staff, confirming that it is true again is actually something that our anchor knows, but it cannot happen in the organizational society. But isn't it widespread in the world that they are still working in the Yongsan secretariat and expanding their influence? These things are incomprehensible. And from what we heard yesterday, I heard that representative Han said that during the meeting with the president, was he the kind of administrator who drove under the influence of alcohol? I understand that there are rumors that such a person is still working here and that he is assigned to a position that he cannot understand, so I think he pointed out that there is a problem with those things.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Anyway, if it is specifically presented, the president will renew it. I'll ask you about that later. And now, there is a continuous talk of Kim Gun-hee, and now, regarding the special prosecution law, representative Han Dong-hoon said in an interview that he persuaded 30 people when handling the special prosecution law, but public opinion is worsening and he is worried. The president's office is asking if he is threatening with a leave vote. How do you see this?

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: I was really telling you the reality. We're also worried a lot right now. Because the Democratic Party of Korea's special prosecution law is full of bad laws, isn't it? For example, the special prosecution law should be agreed upon by the ruling and opposition parties, but it does not make sense for the person who proposed the special prosecution to appoint the special prosecutor. In addition, according to the current special prosecution bill proposed by the Democratic Party of Korea, we have provided the basis for confiscating and searching the central party or the Gyeongsangnam-do party, using the suspicions of our nomination of Myung Tae-kyun. So it's just unacceptable for our party. As the party leader, Han also said several times that he couldn't get this. However, there were four leave votes in the last independent counsel law vote. So we're very worried. At that time, the party leader said this should be prevented by the party's argument and that it should never be passed, but if public opinion continues to deteriorate regarding Kim, the Democratic Party of Korea introduced such a toxic clause in November of the following year, and when the president vetoed it again, I am very afraid of what it will result. That's why I said that. It's not a threat, it's an accurate report of reality.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. Shortly after meeting with representative Han Dong-hoon, it was revealed that he had another dinner with floor leader Choo Kyung-ho. He explained that the presidential office is a regular meal, but Han Dong-hoon was very angry. This expression came out.

◇Kim Jong-hyuk: I've been a reporter for about 30 years and I've watched a lot, but I think it was a very bizarre dinner. Yes, because I told reporters at the time that I had an important dinner at 6 o'clock, so I could only meet with the representative until 6 o'clock, so we thought it was an important diplomatic envoy. But it turns out that the president just had a dinner with his own aides, right? And after dinner, he contacted floor leader Choo Kyung-ho and called him, so I understand that floor leader Choo Kyung-ho went to Yongsan at around 8 p.m. after receiving a briefing about the results of the meeting with his chief of staff Park Jung-ha. So, there was an important meeting between the representative and the president, and because of that dinner, this could only be done until 6 o'clock, but it turned out that the dinner was a dinner with aides that you see almost every day. Does this make sense then? It's enough to make you feel a little weird.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. But in the presidential office. Representative Han Dong-hoon also expressed a little discomfort about accepting the meeting proposed by Representative Lee Jae-myung at the time of his meeting with President Yoon, so maybe that's why?

◇Kim Jong-hyuk: That's completely wrong. Because on that day, CEO Lee Jae-myung expressed his wish to meet with CEO Han Dong-hoon. Isn't that definitely to split up? It's to divide Yongsan and Tang. But the CEO also discussed it. If you pretend you don't know this and say, "Let's meet again after the talks are over," there may be a misunderstanding such as, "Oh, the talks went wrong, so I'm meeting with Lee Jae-myung because it didn't go well," so we'll know publicly when they say it publicly. It was judged that answering things like "I'll meet you anytime" could rather reduce the possibility of misunderstanding.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But who did you discuss with?

◇Kim Jong-hyuk: No, that's what I discussed with people around me. It's a misunderstanding if you think about such things as pressuring Yongsan through an interview with CEO Lee Jae-myung. Would our party ever dance with Representative Lee Jae-myung on the ground that they laid out? That's not going to happen.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. It was the position of the leadership. Can I organize it like this?

◇Kim Jong-hyuk: I don't know. As far as I know, you've discussed with people around you, but it's inappropriate for me to tell you who I discussed with until the end.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You mean you didn't consult with the Supreme Council member. from the standpoint of the party leader

◇ Kim Jong-hyuk: Me? I didn't say it at the top. Since I talked about it that morning, I would have talked to people close to me.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. I see. Thank you for interviewing us on our show even though you're busy these days.

◇Kim Jong-hyuk: Yes, thank you.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I was the supreme council member of the people's power until now. Thank you.