Jang Sung-chul said, "Mrs. Kim has a high level of unfavorability, so installation of the 2nd annex? 尹 It doesn't help your approval rating."

Jang Sung-cheol
- Mrs. Kim has a high degree of dislike and antipathy, so installing a second annex? It doesn't help 尹's approval rating
- Han Dong-hoon, there are few achievements in front of him..The prospects for normal state administration in the 尹 are also difficult

Kim Min-ha
- Han Dong-hoon, 100 days before his inauguration, fell short of expectations.It's hard to say it's a game.
- Lee Jae-myung's trial live? Rather, it's to make Lee Jae-myung look good.I wonder if you need to be serious

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: October 24, 2024 (Thursday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Dialogue: Jang Sung-chul, Director of Public Opinion Center, Kim Min-ha, Current Affairs Critic

* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.

◆ Sin Yul: But now, as reported today, doesn't the term of the president now turn a turning point? By then, the president's office would have changed its personnel structure, and the second office would start operating next month, and the second office would have someone as the second deputy chief. Is there any medicinal effect? How do you see it?

■ Kim Min-ha: First of all, the president has already said that he will consider setting up a second annex, and several times in the meantime

◆ Shin Yul: He said he couldn't make it because he didn't have a room, but he seems to have gotten a room.

■ Kim Min-ha: Yes, they said it's under construction, but I thought the president's office was under construction, but I don't know. Do you think we're starting construction now?

◆ It's going to be launched next month. It's not that far away.

■ Kim Min-ha: I don't know. So I don't know what's going to happen now. Anyway, since they say they're going to make it definitely, so I think it's right to make it definitely. But then, can we make a second annex and solve various concerns that have been raised? Isn't that not true? As many pointed out, it is not just a point that comes from outside the opposition party or the ruling party, but now it is not a point that comes from within the ruling party. It is difficult to use the second annex alone. Because the second annex would be such an organization that supports Kim Gun-hee to officially do well in various activities, but what the ruling party now demands is that Kim Gun-hee reduce her public activities anyway. I wish I could almost shut down my activities. This requirement has gone up to this point. I wish I could stop my activities, but what is the second part? It can be like this, so this alone can be difficult, but I think that's why people say that. Isn't there some areas where Mrs. Kim Gun-hee has no choice but to do activities anyway? President Yoon Suk Yeol will express his position on the halfway point of his term in office, and I think the ruling party should take such action to respond to public opinion by expressing the president's assessment of the process so far and his position on what he will do in the future. And I don't understand what we've come so far.If we've come this far, it's common sense and reasonable for the president to express his position at this point, but it's also true that President Yoon Suk Yeol has not moved as expected and has not responded to the expectations. So, I'm actually looking at it with considerable doubt whether there will be any other solution other than the second annex this time.

◇ Jang Seong-cheol: I want to tell you that the diagnosis and prescription of the cause is wrong now. I broke my leg, and I want to say that it's like taking digestive medicine. There is a huge amount of unfavorable and antipathy related to First Lady Kim Gun-hee, and I will officially assist the activities by setting up a second annex. This is not a solution. Now, many people think that Kim Gun-hee is doing really well. Some people think that she should still be active, but more people don't even want to see her. You attended an official event when the Polish prime minister came last week. There are a lot of people who don't want to see that. In that situation, the establishment of a second annex and the personnel reorganization of the Blue House will not help raise the approval rating of the current Yoon Suk Yeol regime in lowering its approval rating, antipathy, and unfavorability. I'm telling you that you shouldn't think this easy. It doesn't work.

◆ Shin-yul: Well, according to some reports, I think Kyunghyang Shinmun reported it, but the pro-yoon side got angry and said we had never said that, but now some people say that an apology is a little late and it doesn't mean much about the timing.

◇ Jang Sung-chul: What's funny about that is... President Yoon Suk Yeol apologizes and First Lady Kim Geon-hee apologizes in writing. That doesn't make sense either. Now

◆ Sin-ryul: So maybe that's why we said we didn't talk about that.

◇ Jang Sung-chul: So, we can't even suggest or advise Kim Gun-hee to apologize directly. He said, "Didn't he show it again?" Anyway, since his friends said, "That's not it." We don't have to analyze it with that, but what is the level of demand of the people now? I think you can criticize the installation of the second accessory room like why this is a waste of taxes.

◆ What should I do? Then

◇ Jang Sung-chul: So the people who support the people say it's okay for Kim Gun-hee to work, but more people should not work. I'm not just asking you to keep the promise you made when you were a presidential candidate. I'm asking you to keep that promise even if you're close to CEO Han Dong-hoon. Which one is right? Does it really help to lower Kim's unfavorable rating and increase her approval rating under the Yoon Suk Yeol regime by setting up a second annex and encouraging her to do volunteer work at the end of the year, go on a tour abroad, and visit various organizations to encourage her? Try to judge that coldly. It's right to disappear now.

◆ Shin Yul: But now the date is like that. It's already been 100 days since CEO Han Dong-hoon was represented. And the president of Yoon Suk Yeol goes around the halfway point of his term. President Yoon Suk Yeol is also expected to hold a press conference with the halfway point of his term in office. I don't know if I'll do it or not, but I think CEO Han Dong-hoon is holding a press conference. One person goes around the halfway point for 100 days. It's unreasonable to compare your performance in 100 days and 2 1/2 years, but anyway, what do you think are the advantages and disadvantages of comparing the behavior of any two people so far?

■ Kim Min-ha: That's a sad question now. The question is

◆ Shin Yul: I'm not sad at all

■ Kim Min-ha: I feel a little sad, so before I talk about subjective things like this, if you look at the recent trend of approval ratings that combine various polls, President Yoon Suk Yeol's approval rating is declining, and the party's approval rating is also on the decline, although there is some difference in the popular power party's approval rating.

◆ Shin Yul: Please find a Korean Gallup this time. The Gallup Survey in Korea is different. It went up. Presidential approval ratings are falling
■ Kim Min-ha: But we need to look at them in the long run because they are statistically within this margin of error, for example. So if you look at these things, the recent interpretations that experts say are related to this poll. If there is some kind of trend that Han Dong-hoon is going straight ahead, he will be disappointed in President Yoon Suk Yeol's performance of state affairs and the people's power will be successfully decoupled, so even if the expectation for the party goes up a little bit, the approval rating for the party will go up a little, even if the approval rating for the president falls, the approval rating for the party will go up a little bit. It's supposed to be like this, but it's not like that. Didn't these comments come out until recently? In fact, it can be said by the other side about such things, but it can be said by the so-called pro-Yoon side. But if representative Han Dong-hoon became representative Lee, he would have to see the game within 100 days. Reform, internal reform, or establishment of relationship with the president. So far, it's hard to say that he's done it. Putting these things together, it is true that it has not yet reached the expectations of the people and the expectations of more than 60 percent of the party members who elected Han Dong-hoon. And, crucially, through this meeting with President Lee of Yoon Suk Yeol, it is true that it should have paid off, but it is true that it has not. For now, it is shown. So, I am very sorry about that, and isn't President Yoon Suk Yeol in a situation that goes without saying right now? As Director Jang said, various suspicions related to Kim Gun-hee are being raised in earnest, and there are new suspicions. President Yoon Suk Yeol will use his adventurous skills to accept anything, whether it be a special prosecutor or not, so look for it. I'm not saying, "Investigate what's wrong with this." It's not that the public keeps repeating the appearance of wrapping it up. Then, the question of fairness and common sense in becoming president is only growing, making me feel that this situation, which is acting as a noose for the entire conservative camp, is quite dangerous.

◇ Jang Sung-chul: I can't help but suspect that President Yoon Suk Yeol is qualified, capable, and willing to run state affairs. Because you had a press conference and a public statement three months ago. What was the first page and the second page there? They say that the Korean economy is really improving dramatically. The economic growth rate in the third quarter was 0.1%. Economic growth was negative in the second quarter. Now, tax revenues are going to go out, so I'll put 17 trillion won into the fund to draw negative bank accounts from the Bank of Korea. I'm doing this. Nevertheless, the economy is improving now. I'm very skeptical about how the president, who can't even look ahead to things three months from now, can save people's livelihoods and solve the pain of the people. As the Dong-A Ilbo and the Chosun Ilbo continued last week, it is highly likely that the public will not recognize the authority of the president's decision without resolving the issue of First Lady Kim Gun-hee. So, since the current approval rating is so low, even if the president maintains his position as president, I wonder if the people will recognize him as president, so I will go even if President Yoon Suk Yeol continues to be hit. As long as Mrs. Kim Gun-hee has this perception that she is sick, stop bullying her, I say that it is difficult to predict that President Yoon Suk Yeol will run state affairs properly in the future, and in the case of Representative Han Dong-hoon, he resists with courage. We cannot hold the 2026 local elections and 2027 presidential elections unless we settle the issue of First Lady Kim Gun-hee to some extent. This is not the collapse of the Yoon Suk Yeol regime, but just the power of the people and the conservative right-wing camp itself. I'm telling you to be really courageous and clean up the issue of First Lady Kim Gun-hee to save it, but since the pro-Yoon leaders continue to hold back and approach the issue of First Lady Kim Gun-hee in such a way as, Han Dong-hoon is bravely shouting, but it will be quite difficult to exercise various powers as a party leader unless he builds up his power and more lawmakers in the party agree with his arguments and messages. What's the point of holding a meeting between the ruling and opposition parties? I don't like floor leader Choo Kyung-ho, do you want to do it? It's no use doing this. Therefore, Han Dong-hoon is courageously saying something, but he has made little achievement before his inauguration 100 days later. That's what I'm saying.

◆ Shin Yul: I think I'm going to meet the leaders of the ruling and opposition parties now. Representative Lee Jae-myung and representative Han Dong-hoon are likely to meet, but what can we expect when we meet?

■ Kim Min-ha: The anticipation will be as fruitful as Director Jang said. You have to think about these things to expect, but it's a structure that's hard to produce results. Because

◆ Why is this meeting? Then

■ Kim Min-ha: That's right. If you ask why we meet now, there are many political contexts, but in the first place, the Democratic Party's proposal to meet Lee Jae-myung has many political contexts, but since the ruling party is divided now, there must be a purpose to take advantage of the divided situation from the perspective of the Democratic Party, right? So, there will be aspects to meet Han Dong-hoon, and from Han Dong-hoon's point of view, it is not bad for the ruling and opposition party leaders to put their heads together and show how to find a solution to the pending issue. In addition to this judgment, wasn't that the situation just before we met with President Yoon Suk Yeol? So, there are expectations that such a meeting between the leaders of the ruling and opposition parties is scheduled to have a positive impact on the meeting with the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, and there seem to be many complex reasons, but anyway, the promise of meeting is left, so we should meet and achieve results. But wouldn't it be two things if it was divided into two? First, what the Democratic Party wants is to express a forward-looking stance on such things as Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel, and for some, the Democratic Party can make its own concessions. I'll say this, but CEO Han Dong-hoon doesn't have a range of words about it right now. In fact, the moment we receive an independent counsel, we can be completely wiped out by being driven as traitors. Isn't this the attitude? My close friends are openly talking about it, so I don't think it's going to be easy to achieve results. From Han Dong-hoon's point of view, meeting people is going to be successful. For example, it's a very complicated thing to say. It seems that he wants to achieve some results from something that can be said to be a public agenda among things that are not public war, but from the Democratic Party's point of view, he can pay the money. However, it should be in some way linked to the special prosecutor. It's like this. So, they get some concessions from the special counsel and give up their financial fighting power. It's not a bill like this. Then, in the end, I think it's still difficult to produce results if I say so because it's going to be an independent counsel.

◆ Shin Yul: But one more thing, CEO Lee Jae-myung, is on November 15th and 25th, and the first trial decision must be broadcast live. Is it a new future now? I changed my name. Representative Jeon Byung-hun from Rep. Lee Nak-yeon also said, "Hey, why aren't you broadcasting this? Why is it so important to broadcast this?" How do you see it?

◇ Jang Sung-cheol: I think it is the people's power or the intention of the new future to directly inform the people of what charges, what charges, and what legal violations Lee Jae-myung faced. I think that representative Lee Jae-myung would be quite burdensome just to list such charges, but I think that's a matter for the court to decide. No matter how much political circles claim, what would it be?

■ Kim Min-ha: I think the same. For example, I remember the trials of the former president, but I think it wasn't that common, and I think it's too much of a representative of Lee Jae-myung.

◆ Shinryul: According to OTT documentaries, the U.S. often broadcasts the entire trial process. There's even an American channel. I think it's

■ Kim Min-ha: Then we also need to seriously discuss whether we're talking about doing it like the United States. If the legal system is to change as much as it is in the United States,

◆ Shin Yul: It's a broadcast, but that's a little different. The U.S. broadcasts the entire process.

■ Kim Min-ha: So what I'm talking about is that if political discussions are at that level, it's worth dealing with seriously, but I want to openly talk about this and humiliate Representative Lee Jae-myung. Aren't you raising it in that sense? In that sense, it's funny for politicians to be so serious about it, and as you said, it's a matter that the court can decide. I wonder if it's necessary to say this so seriously that the intention is obvious.

◇ Jang Seong-cheol: But it can be like this. I did it, but I was acquitted. As CEO Lee Jae-myung,
◆ Shin Yul: You should have done the broadcast. If that happens, you should have broadcasted it. Then you got a huge gift. But you're talking about it, but it looks like you're going out wearing a long padded jacket. Starting this weekend, shouldn't it be like this at least whether Han Dong-hoon and Lee Jae-myung meet before this weekend? If you go out, you'll talk about impeachment again and again.
◇ Jang Sung-chul: Representative Cho Kuk made his impeachment official last week. I think it is highly likely to be an impeachment rally. In any case, the progressive camp wants it, so the two parties will have to represent it, but in the other side, Chairman Lee Jae-myung is likely to be quite guilty of his trial. I think it's going to be a disadvantage. I shouldn't be the only one treated like a bad guy. The Yoon Suk Yeol regime is bad. Mrs. Kim Gun-hee is bad. Let's dilute it in this way, and it seems that there is also an intention to distract the people. If the opposition party is a minority opposition party, it makes sense to some extent to go out and fight like that, and it can happen if there is no power in the National Assembly, but the Democratic Party of Korea is a huge opposition party now. In the end, the strongest place is the National Assembly. Of course, he said he would continue to fight in the floor, but he's fighting the streets like that. Going out ahead of the Lee Jae-myung party leadership election is unlikely to be seen as very positive in the eyes of the people. Please work harder to protect Lee Jae-myung even if Lee Jae-myung is convicted on the 15th and 25th by resolving complaints from people in his camp and uniting people in his camp. Why would I overthrow the Yoon Suk Yeol regime? I think I'm going to develop this logical equation.

■ Kim Min-ha: I hope that everything will be resolved within the National Assembly if possible, but doesn't this administration continue to give justification? Then, as I said before, let's make a bet. I hope the president of Yoon Suk Yeol in this administration will take the lead. If you accept the special prosecutor, there is no justification. Now, if the special prosecutor investigates everything, for example, impeachment should have a significant reason for violating the constitution or law. Isn't the special prosecutor investigating the special prosecutor you've been asking for? Isn't it possible to move on like this? Let's talk about people's livelihoods? How strange would the people think it would be if they were like that in the middle of the street?

■ Kim Min-ha: So don't keep giving us justification. In fact, I think we should throw a game at a time like this, but I'm a little frustrated because those things aren't progressing.

◆ Shin Yul: Okay. I would like to inform you that this is our own poll of 101 voters aged 18 or older nationwide from the 22nd to October 22nd to the 24th. For more information, please visit the website of the Central Election Public Opinion Review Committee. You can talk in your sleep, too. Anyway, I'll stop talking about the two of you today. Thank you. So far, I've been with two current affairs critics, Kim Min-ha, director of the Jang Sung-chul Public Opinion Center.