[News Fighting] Jang Kyung-tae "Meeting with conservative and moderate elders? Positioned as a political leader"

[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: October 31, 2024 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast member: Jang Kyung-tae, member of the Democratic Party of Korea

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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): Thursday leads to the third-part youth regret. It's been a long time since you came out. Rep. Jang Kyung-tae, chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea's Seoul Metropolitan Party, is here. Hello

◇ Rep. Jang Kyung-tae of the Democratic Party of Korea (hereinafter referred to as Jang Kyung-tae): Yes, hello, I'm Jang Kyung-tae.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Did you do well in the audit?

◇Jang Kyung-tae: A month has passed like crazy.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: There was a lot of talk and a lot of trouble in the judiciary committee. What do you think about the overall audit?

◇Jang Kyung-tae: After all, it was a parliamentary audit that was focused on the issue of First Lady Kim Gun-hee, and various suspicions were raised when the recordings of Myung Tae-kyun broke out, but I think it is an audit that concluded that the prosecution has no will to investigate and that there is only a special prosecutor in the end

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Let's take a look behind the special investigators. I have no choice but to ask about CEO Lee Jae-myung's news. CEO Lee Jae-myung is called a conservative man yesterday. I met with former Environment Minister Yoon Yeo-jun. I'm having a meeting with conservative elders. Why is CEO Lee Jae-myung meeting like this? Does it mean a lot?

◇Jang Kyung-tae: Now, as we enter the second term of representative Lee Jae-myung, President Yoon Suk Yeol's approval rating is at rock bottom, and many people feel anxious. That's why the representative is now running the second term and meeting with Minister Yoo Hyun-joon, following former lawmaker Lee Sang-don and former emergency committee chairman Kim Jong-in. I believe that it is the process of establishing itself as a political leader who can expand his stride and give stability to various people by meeting senior figures from all walks of life from the conservative center. I think this kind of move is good. I think communicating with various people often in the future has a very contrasting effect with the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, who sits in the presidential office and tries not to meet anyone. I hope you do it often.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Didn't you activate the Democratic Party's current ruling plan headquarters? Is that part of it? preparing for the presidential election

◇Jang Kyung-tae: I think it is desirable in terms of strengthening communication because the headquarters of the ruling plan is now a unit that prepares for the administration of state affairs by refining the party's policies and pledges.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, because you mentioned an external scholar. It's a different problem, but when will CEO Lee Jae-myung's position come out in relation to the abolition of the financial investment tax?

◇Jang Kyung-tae: I expect the conclusion to be made soon. As I said before, we've been busy with state audits since then, so you'll come to a conclusion before the next year's budget is finalized.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. Have all the Democratic Party's opinions been coordinated regarding the financial investment tax? The policy committee chairman expressed a slight disagreement

◇Jang Kyung-tae: I'm actually closer to the remains. As for the remains, I think it is a matter that can be postponed or comprehensively reviewed again.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: The party's opinions have been coordinated.

◇Jang Kyung-tae: I think the leadership is only making a decision on this part because many lawmakers are still divided on the pros and cons at the general assembly. As there are many opinions, I think it's okay to postpone my personal wishes.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Representative Lee Jae-myung is also in that position

◇Jang Kyung-tae: I don't know. That's

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You said it was a moderate extension

◇Jang Kyung-tae: I thought it would be good to comprehensively review the stock transfer tax and securities transaction tax because the debate over the gold investment tax is about how to reform Korea's tax system and how to make tax standards on various stock markets rather than expanding the middle and outside.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Anyway, you're in the position that it's on the side of the remains. That's right for me. Okay. CEO Lee Jae-myung's first trial decision is now set to be held on November 11th and 25th. Democratic Party lawmakers are campaigning for the signature of Lee Jae-myung's innocence relay on social media. What do you think?

◇Jang Kyung-tae: Many people are also sending a lot of petitions and appeals for leniency during this trial. In our view, the prosecution has prosecuted the election law with the expression, "I didn't know much about it," so the prosecution, which prosecutes with this, is probably the first time in judicial history, but I hope it will be a day when the court considers this and proves that judicial justice is alive. I understand that supporters are submitting a variety of opinions on that. I also asked our local party members and supporters to sign a petition.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then are you participating in this relay signature campaign now?

◇Jang Kyung-tae: Yes, of course.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. But isn't this lawmaker the representative of the people? It's not only representative of those who support the Democratic Party, but also those who support the power of the people in the region. As such, I think there will be a question as to whether it is correct to express an opinion of innocence in the criminal case of an individual representative of the party as a member of the National Assembly.

◇Jang Kyung-tae: I think the concerns that I feel fair are almost gone by looking at the seizure and search investigation process related to CEO Lee Jae-myung. It is almost imprinted as a political oppression. On the contrary, if you had done the same thing, you wouldn't have said this, but wouldn't all Deutsche Motors stock price manipulation and luxury bags related to Kim Gun-hee be prosecuted without charge? There is even a saying that the prosecution has nothing to say even 10 mouths. In this regard, many people say that the public should judge the prosecution's unreasonable prosecution and that it is important for the judiciary to make judicial justice, so I think it is possible as a member of the National Assembly.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Wouldn't it feel like a pressure on the judiciary to express an opinion of innocence as a member of the National Assembly?

◇Jang Kyung-tae: I don't think the judiciary will feel this much pressure on the National Assembly. Rather, you will be conscious of the eyes and eyes of the people, but anyway, since any law is based on national sovereignty, isn't it difficult for the legislature to make a law that goes against the public sentiment and opinions? That's why I hope the judges in the judiciary will listen carefully to the opinions of the people and make a decision.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: So you're saying that the guilt or innocence can change depending on public opinion?

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: Let's call it normal consideration. And as you know well because you are a lawyer in this judiciary, doesn't the judiciary end up with various sentencing standards that meet the public's eye level? That's why I'm expecting the judiciary to realize justice.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: So you're saying that you respect the ruling when it comes out.

◇Jang Kyung-tae: The previous statement is

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. It seems like a new era of three Kims is opening right now. Former Governor Kim Kyung-soo and Kim Dong-yeon, former Prime Minister Kim Boo-kyum were called 3 Kims. In this regard, representative Lee Jae-myung's conviction comes out and the three Kims emerge as an alternative. There are talks circulating in Yeouido now. What do you think?

◇Jang Kyung-tae: I think it's a very, very few. That's why I think all three of you are great people. However, I think it is not enough to replace the symbolism and representation of CEO Lee Jae-myung. In fact, President Yoon Suk Yeol, the Yoon Suk Yeol regime, and the political prosecution have grown the representation and symbolism of representative Lee Jae-myung. What's the symbolism? Is it 370 times like this? During the search and seizure, I almost ran away from the political investigation and prosecution, and I think it was almost virtually the investigation, but I have never suppressed politics like this. At the same time, they show that they are firmly and firmly in good health, making them feel more trust and more stable from the people. How anxious are you to see President Yoon Suk Yeol's state administration now? Even his junior prosecutors, who he cherished, were demoted or destroyed, and they were inseparable from CEO Han Dong-hoon. Nevertheless, it's as if I've been postponing the request for a private meeting several times, and looking at the seats at the table, the prosecutor almost sat down as if he were interrogating the suspect, so there was no need to be a harsh so-called. So, I wonder if I should have done what I should have done if I just sat at the round table and laughed so hard, but anyway, because representative Lee Jae-myung showed considerable political stability and symbolism, and because the prosecution raised it that much, none of the three people have been politically suppressed right now. That's why it's hard to replace. Yes.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. Representative Lee Jae-myung is not here at the time of Rep. Kim Woo-young. Wasn't it very controversial because he said that this was a topic of a judge? It was too much. But recently, I gave a stern warning. Why did he give a stern warning now?

◇Jang Kyung-tae: First of all, he gave us room to focus on the audit of the state affairs during the parliamentary audit. However, at that time, Kim Tae-kyu, vice chairman of the Korea Communications Commission, was a judge, and he swore inside the parliamentary audit. I'm deciding that I didn't swear like Biden did, but it was within the National Audit Office. It really just defines this proceeding, but it's also filmed because all the cameras and broadcasts are running. That's why it was a process of pointing out how dare you use abusive language during the parliamentary audit, but it seems that it was reasonable to point out the individual's point of view, but it didn't have to point out the occupation. Since the representative has warned him severely about it, Rep. Kim Eui-young is probably the first-time lawmaker, so I felt a lot of things like, "I should be really careful in the audit hall or the standing committee meeting hall," but I think it will be an opportunity to learn a lot.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It is evaluated that there were a lot of rude talk. Rep. Yang Moon-seok also apologized, but why did Representative Lee Jae-myung give a stern warning only to this saying that he was a judge? There is no choice but to say, "Isn't he doing it ahead of the ruling?"

◇Jang Kyung-tae: No. Representative Yang Moon-seok probably apologized as well.

◆Bae Seunghee: but warning per warning

◇Jang Kyung-tae: Yes, because someone else apologized before warning you

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You just apologized. Apologize and warn

◇Jang Kyung-tae: I don't know if Kim Eun-young apologized. But I don't think it's because I'm a judge, but I think that was a remark to be careful about. So you have to point out the individual, but you don't have to point out the job. Let's look at it like this

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. I asked because there were many interpretations. I have a question about Mrs. Kim Gun-hee. The fact-finding team for Myeong Tae-geun Gate was installed by the Democratic Party. What do you think? How do you see this explicit controversy?

◇Jang Kyung-tae: First of all, among these suspicions involving Lee Myung-bak, Kim Young-sun was nominated and went to receive the money for the polls in the process, but the nomination is confirmed anyway, and even Kim Young-sun, who won the nomination, gives away half of his salary. I think that the characteristics of various nomination donations are very strong. That's right. The second is related to the designation of the Changwon National Industrial Complex. I've been a member of the ruling party's land committee, but what do you think? Even the designation of a speculative adjustment area is actually made known by the fact that it is now embossed before the spokesman's announcement on the morning of the day. However, it was already decided at the emergency economic countermeasure meeting chaired by the president at 10 p.m. on March 15, 2023, that the banner would be accurately designated as Dong-eup, Buk-myeon, or it would be a translation from former aide Kim Young-sun more than two months ago. Then, how would you know before the announcement of the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport because knowing before the president's decision can only be seen as a counting of state information? Myung Taeyoon said

◆ Bae Seung-hee: No pollack root gate fact-finding team has been installed.

◇Jang Kyung-tae: But now, the Gyeongnam Election Commission filed another suspicion related to Myung Tae-kyun with the prosecution in December last year for violating the Election Political Fund Act. Kang Hye-kyung filed another complaint in May with more than 4,000 transcripts. Nevertheless, in May this year, they are assigned to the investigation department without any prosecutors, and only in September, they are assigned to the criminal department. Then, on October 10 of this year, the statute of limitations for the election law has ended, right? Then, it was left unattended for nine months, but only after the statute of limitations on the election law has passed, the criminal department is assigned. I don't think I had the will to investigate. The prosecution made it because it was pathetic to see the helpless and incompetent prosecution to Kim Kun-hee, but it couldn't even say a word to Myung Tae-kyun. Looking at the prosecution like this, I can only think that it's time for the prosecution in Korea to close.

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: And the related fact-finding and various other things, I think there is a very high possibility that it will lead to a parliamentary investigation in the future. Rep. Seo Yong-kyo, a member of the Judiciary Committee and the previous Supreme Council member, said,

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. You talked about the prosecution in that regard. Isn't that why the Democratic Party is pushing for a permanent special prosecution? It also passed a revision to the rule that excludes the recommendation of the ruling party. But the president appoints a special prosecutor. What happens if I don't make the appointment?

◇Jang Kyung-tae: As far as I know, it has included a regulation that enforces the appointment. So, the special prosecutor system itself was created to investigate power gate corruption, especially when the prosecution, police, and prosecution agencies do not investigate properly. However, since President Yoon Suk Yeol is now a former prosecutor due to his veto, it is difficult to expect the prosecution to investigate in a situation where he has complete control of the prosecution organization. That's why we're introducing this special prosecutor. However, since the independent counsel continues to veto the independent counsel, the permanent independent counsel cannot exercise this veto. That's why we're going to revise this operating rule and introduce a special prosecutor because the president is not investigating properly, but we're going to appoint an opposition-recommended special prosecutor because we don't even introduce a permanent special prosecutor. I really didn't want to do the inspection of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit until the end, so I waited and did it at the last minute, right? It is very unfortunate that the prosecutors of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit related to the investigation are not approved, but I expect that the permanent special prosecutor will not be appointed, so the ruling party should be excluded from the recommendation.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's why you changed the rules. Now CEO Han Dong-hoon is making a position on the special inspector. How do you feel about the Democratic Party?

◇Jang Kyung-tae: I think it's a bit unfortunate. The special inspector wants to prevent various irregularities and suspicions in advance in the presidential office related to the president and relatives. Already, the intervention of nominations related to First Lady Kim Gun-hee, manipulation of state affairs, and Maeng Tae-kyun's manipulation of public opinion are all being revealed, and the special inspector is the person in charge of the inspection. Then, if such suspicions arise during the inspection, the inspector will eventually have no choice but to file a complaint or take action, right? Then I'll go back to the prosecution.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: We're going to the investigation

◇Jang Kyung-tae: But then you have to prevent it in advance. How can the inspector prevent what has already happened? So I was a bit off the mark. Representative Han Dong-won made a mistake and has no political experience, so you may not know because you have no experience in the floor yet. The Special Inspector General said, "Of course, that's the job of the president's chief of staff.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: Party Representative Management

◇Jang Kyung-tae: Does it make sense for the leader of the ruling party to hold a meeting with the appointment of a special inspector? You can just make a decision in the leadership and recommend the appointment. Still, I think it's at least a sword to catch a cow because I'm the leader of the ruling party, so why are you holding a chicken? It's just a little pathetic.

◆Bae Seung-Hee: Let me ask you a quick question for the last time. There is no news about the date of the meeting between representatives Han Dong-hoon and Lee Jae-myung. What's the matter? CEO Han Dong-hoon said

◇Jang Kyung-tae: Maybe now there are a lot of conflicts within the party and so-called representative Han Dong-hoon is experiencing a civil war within the party. Shouldn't we end the civil war to have outside diplomacy? But it's an internal medical gun process, so it's probably going through a medical gun. Wouldn't the floor leader Choo Kyung-soo be working on various preliminary suspensions before the parliamentary session on the recommendation of appointing special inspectors? Maybe at least if you have a political sense, a number of five senior members of the party have issued a statement.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Will we meet before the sentencing?

◇Jang Kyung-tae: I think that's very likely. Because the Special Prosecutor Kim Gun-hee Act is scheduled to be voted on by the plenary session on November 14, I think he would like to recommend a special inspector before that. It's probably a counter-argument at the plenary session. Wouldn't it be a counterattack like the Democratic Party's Special Prosecutor Kim Kwang-hee Act and representative Han Dong-hoon's special inspector? Then, I think it will be a lot of things to talk about if we meet before that.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. I talked to Jang Kyung-tae of the Democratic Party of Korea, who is working hard for youth political activities, but I don't have enough time today. Young man, I'll stop here. Thank you.

◇Jang Kyung-tae: Thank you.