■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: November 6, 2024 (Wednesday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Talks: Lee Jae-young, Chairman of the Party Cooperation Committee, Park Sung-min, former member of the Democratic Party of Korea
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Lee Jae-young
- U.S. presidential celebrity promotion doesn't seem to work...On the other hand, teacher Samya
- 尹 'final interview' notice...I think it shows the will. Expectations
- 尹 should never come out after reporting the results of state affairs in the press conference
- Part 2? Can't you put it out as a card to replace the inspector?
- Choo Kyung-ho persuades you? Part of various voices
Park Sung-min
- U.S. presidential election Trump wins, reduces political uncertainty
- No expectations for 尹's public statement..It is not easy for people to change
- There is a possibility of a defense regarding the 尹, state performance report
- 尹, accurate apology and measures to prevent recurrence
- Friendly - Friendly fighting - Foolish...Situation perception is novel and bizarre
◆ Shin Yul: As I said earlier, we will start with Yeouido Youth Politics. I'll introduce the two of you who came out today to overcome this cold. First, Lee Jae-young, chairman of the party's cooperation committee, is the power of the people. How are you?
◇ Hello,
◆ Shin Yul: Park Sung-min, former member of the Democratic Party of Korea. How are you?
■ Park Sung-min: Yes, hello.
◆ Sin-ryul: But did you dress like this? You have a vest. Are you dressed like this?
■ Park Sung-min: I also wore a lightweight padded jacket.
◆ Shin Yul: It's cold. Cold is
■ Park Sung-min: It's cold. It's very cold. I think it'll be okay to wear a scarf.
◆ Shin Yul: No, I went to school in the morning, and quite a few students wore long padded jackets. The Democratic Party also wears a lot of padding. I think I'll wear it this Saturday.
◇ Lee Jae-young: I'm also going to a lecture at my college, but why do my kids only wear black padded jackets?
◆ Sin-ryul: It's not normally black, but this black one. It's the most simple and simple in this fashion, but it doesn't look tacky, and this color is black.
◇ Professor Lee Jae-young also completely
◆ Sinryul: It's black mixed with red. But you know what? Did you think it would be Trump?
◇ Lee Jae-young: I mean, some of the stories from the competition area came out to the end when Trump was chasing and getting ahead, so I wondered if I could really win this, but looking at the results, I thought more about whether Harris had lost this much. The percentage was quite high. The difference is
◆ Shin Yul: How did you feel about being Trump?
■ Park Sung-min: I think it's a little shocking. Because now you're using the word Trump's return. In fact, Trump has made a lot of more absurd remarks and hateful remarks, especially during this election, starting with discriminatory ones, but now he's come back after defeating a meaningful challenge from a Harris candidate. I think it's a real reminder of the uncertainty in politics.
◆ Sin-ryul: When people in the U.S. poll asked what they thought first in this presidential election, democracy was the number one. The second place was the abortion issue. The third place was the economy. So the first and second place was because the Democratic Party was good at that. I always talked about authoritarianism, so I thought, "What can I do?" What I always say is that the United States is much more conservative than Korea. Personally, I actually thought that a woman did not choose a female candidate. Why in the U.S. you might put up a note in an election campaign bathroom and take it to the polls without your husband knowing it. I saw this as meaning that women's political expression is quite limited, and at the same time, men control women's political will. So I thought there was a problem with this, but regardless of whether there is a problem or not, if you think about the atmosphere in the United States, that's true. Britain, Margaret Thatcher, and Germany also had female prime ministers.
◇ Lee Jae-young: But what's interesting is that while watching the U.S. presidential election, the celebrity promotion doesn't work. Because Taylor Swift and Beyoncé have come out all the time, and Oprah Winfrey has always come out. I thought, "These people don't understand." As you said, there were a lot of nonsense about Trump, but I think that's the point to watch. Trump took a lot more minorities than last time and then more votes like Hispanics and then black people.
◆ Sin-ryul: Hispanics tend to be a little conservative in the United States.
◇ Lee Jae-young: Especially Cuban Hispanics are conservative, but I don't know that they received more than before. The fact that the Democratic Party has failed to keep its existing supporters is that the Democratic Party seems to be holding elections only with the very rich, the people on the West Coast in the West Coast, and the big cities right now, but it's not directly related to our country, but I'm not sure. I think there is something we should use as a lesson in the future elections about how to dig into certain issues.
◆ Sin Yul: That's right. I thought about that, too.
■ Park Sung-min: I also thought it would be good to pay attention to those areas because there were a lot of polls at the end of the race, and from there, the evaluation that Harris is a little dominant now is
◆ Shin-ryul: The British Economist, who has never been wrong, has a 6% higher probability of Harris winning than yesterday, but he has never been wrong. Now that he is wrong, he is often wrong.
■ Park Sung-min: So, the polls are very hot in Korea and the United States, and I think it's now difficult to gauge what kind of things through the polls.
◆ Sin Yul: That's right. That's why I always say this. I think it's very dangerous to choose candidates for public opinion polls, but I have to talk about Korea. President Yoon will address the nation tomorrow. And an end-of-the-mill press conference with unlimited questions. If it's unlimited, how can I stay up all night? How do you watch from 10 a.m. to 10 a.m. the next day?
◇ Lee Jae-young: I don't know. Unlimited. Unlimited.
◆ Sin-ryul: Oh, so you can't use expressions like this too aggressively. If you have high expectations, you'll be disappointed.
◇ Lee Jae-young: I think that's what unlimited time means. In the way of this press conference, don't we call it that tail question? It gives reporters the opportunity to ask questions again. When it comes to this, the president will answer any questions. I'm looking forward to it because it seems to show this willingness.
◆ Sin Yul: How do you watch it?
■ Park Sung-min: I actually don't have a lot of expectations.
◆ Shin Yul: That's what the Democratic Party says.
■ Park Sung-min: Because people don't change easily, when he sometimes appeared like this at an important stage and made a public statement, one of the representative things is the briefing he made right before the general election on medical reform. But he repeated this for almost 50 minutes. However, no matter how persistent the press conference is, if the president continues to provide answers that are completely deviated from the emotions of any people during that time, will it be a good thing and will the president give the answers that the people want from the people's point of view? I think the form and timing are very important, but I wonder if the contents should be prepared at this press conference. Because the president recently went to the National Saemaul Leaders' Conference on the 5th and said, I will never give up against resistance and complete the four major reforms. That's what he said. It's something I've been saying until the completion of the four reforms, so it could be, but I paid attention to the expression of confronting some resistance. So, I'm a little skeptical about whether you're seeing all the political situations surrounding President Lee as a kind of resistance. Rather than seeing your own mistakes and an inflection point that needs to change the direction of state administration, there are forces that are resisting against you rather than seeing you as an inflection point. I'm a little skeptical about what kind of hostility and victim mentality you're going to end up holding a press conference with.
◆ Sin-ryul: Tomorrow's talk. You have to go into things like this. What would you pick?
◇ Lee Jae-young: I talked about that on the show yesterday. I just want you to go from beginning to end with "I'm sorry." But I think there's something I have to lose. a report on the state of affairs
◆ Didn't we do that today or when?
◇ Lee Jae-young: I don't think that's possible if it comes out tomorrow. I told you about this tail question earlier, and even if a reporter asks you a question about the state of affairs, I hope you cut it off saying that I'm not here to talk about it today.
■ Park Sung-min: It's a little ambiguous to say that there is only one thing that must be included, but it's a clear answer from the president to the suspicions related to Myung Tae-kyun and the issue of Kim Gun-hee. And what I should not go into is the same as Chairman Lee Jae-young. If you look at it now, this is done at the halfway point of the term of the state, so President Lee's office can be a little greedy. So, there are many issues that we are at a disadvantage, but there is a possibility that some kind of defense will be made to see if we did something good. So I can tell you it's a cushion pact. So, what I want to say to the President and the President's Office is that now is the time to jump off the parachute. If you keep wearing the parachute of promoting a certain state-run performance and try to land like this, you can get farther and farther away from the people. But now, you have to take everything off and just jump. Do you have the courage to do that now? But let go of your greed to promote the results of the state administration, and I can't hear you even if you promote it now anyway. I don't want to hear the promotion right now, so you have to prepare an accurate apology, an accurate explanation, and a detailed countermeasure to prevent a recurrence. I think I have to tell you this.
◆ Shin Yul: There's something I always say. Politics is not politics when you explain it. There's an outcome. Promoting this is how cramming education is done to achievements through enlightenment, and the public knows if there is a result. One more thing I want to say is that the evaluation of history is built up and becomes history. I hope you do well tomorrow. In the case of CEO Han Dong-hoon, we talked about the appointment of a special inspector, but what do you think he would be evaluated if he said, "This is a assumption, but rather than a special inspector, we will create a second annex?"
◇ Lee Jae-young: That shouldn't be the only one. Because I've already said that I'm going to do it, and I've already said that I'm looking for a space, so can't you hear that the second annex is already in operation? So it doesn't make sense to put out the second annex as a card on behalf of the inspector. Tomorrow, as you said earlier, I don't need to talk about many things. Actually, I don't think there's that much to prepare. Because of the Myung Tae-kyun issue and the Kim Gun-hee issue, wouldn't the public want to hear that? There is a high level of dissatisfaction with Mrs. Kim Gun-hee. There is a desire to resolve the suspicion about that. But what we picked was President Yoon Seok-yeol. It's all my responsibility for the Yoon Suk Yeol president's remarks. I'm hoping that if the nuance of the statement that says, "It's my fault," is well conveyed, the people will give me another chance. However, if you look at the cases so far, many people say, especially the Democratic Party, it can't be, but as a person of the people's power, I hope that such a statement will create such an atmosphere.
◆ Shin Yul: You mentioned Kim Gun-hee, and Jang Dong-hyuk is close. It's a total suspension. When I made such a request, I refuted Lee Chul-kyu, who is well known for his pro-Yoon, saying, "Are you asking me not to conduct summit diplomacy with the president?" How do you see it?
■ Park Sung-min: But I think it's difficult for Kim Gun-hee to do this in reality without accompanying her on a diplomatic schedule. Because it can now be disrespectful to other foreign leaders, and there can be things to say about Korea's status. Why didn't the first lady come alone over there? It's an event where everyone comes together, so I don't want to say that, but if you look at it now, I think I should say that it's a little absurd that the pro-Yoon-gye and pro-gye are still fighting each other in this party. Because this is not the time. But from what I see, it looks very free. Rep. Lee Chul-kyu and some pro-Yoon-gye lawmakers are also preaching absurd logic, and the public's view is that Lee Jae-myung's approval rating is not good because he couldn't be arrested. I think it's really new to recognize this situation in this way. And since the president was elected, I think it's okay to talk to Myung Tae-kyun on the phone because it was before the inauguration of the president. The pro-Yoon-gye keeps saying things like, "Is this the time right now?" And even it's not from Han Dong-hoon, it's from floor leader Choo Kyung-ho. In this way, looking at these views that can't bear to see any contribution from any representative, it makes me think that there are still many people who don't see the seriousness of the situation, regardless of the content. I don't want to talk about diplomacy about the Kim Gun-hee issue, but I think there should be a clear answer to how to solve these problems at a time when all the suspicions related to stock price manipulation have been prosecuted, starting with the luxury bag issue.
◆ Shin Yul: Now that you're talking about it, I actually talked about the requirements, but suddenly I'll hold a press conference on the 7th at 10:30 p.m. in the presidential office. But the next day, floor leader Choo Kyung-ho suddenly came out and I told him yesterday when I came back from work. In the end, this can be seen as a friendly conflict, but I don't know how to describe representative Han Dong-hoon, but isn't it a phenomenon that appears positively?
◇ Lee Jae-young: No, the relationship between the two has already crossed the Rubicon, so I don't think it's worth evaluating. At this point, I don't think it's actually worth it. Whether I hate it or like it or not, I think CEO Han Dong-hoon has contributed to the formation of this atmosphere this time, and I think he must have a stake. And Rep. Choo Kyung-ho went in and the floor leader went in and persuaded him, but it's probably just a part of various voices. In my case, about 40 lawmakers in their 19s, 20s, and 21s had a lunch luncheon with secretary Lee in Yongsan. Even then, a lot of people will see people about Chin Yoon and B Yoon in that, right? Special measures are needed to make changes, reforms and changes in unison. Although he was gentle with his words, there were many criticisms of his staff in Yongsan, as far as I know, many people have said that he must do this until yesterday. That's why I'm not saying that floor leader Choo Kyung-ho alone created this. I think not only Gallup's opinion poll about Gallup that came out here, but all of these things worked in a complex way.
■ Park Sung-min: I think I need to be a little more precise about the remarks of lawmaker Lee Chul-kyu, who I just introduced, but what you used was that there were many complaints from our supporters about why they couldn't deal with the judicial risks of these people, such as Lee Jae-myung or representative Cho Kuk, quickly and strongly. He said that this is a phenomenon that appears in combination. So, I feel like you have emphasized a kind of judgment theory once again, but anyway, I think there is a huge gap between close and pro-Yoon lawmakers about interpreting the cause within the ruling party, and if representative Han Dong-hoon says something as a solution, it's too much, or rough about these behaviors that appear in the face of representative Han Dong-hoon, at the same time, I think it's time to make a proper pledge to the presidential office, regardless of whether it's pro-Yoon or pro-Yoon.
◆ Shin Yul: But now, the president will definitely ask about Myung Tae Kyun tomorrow, so we have to be very honest about this. This will lower the risk because it was yesterday and yesterday. There's also a related recording of Myung Taekyun. That's right in the Democratic Party of Korea. In this situation, we have to go over this well, but I think Myung Tae-kyun's recording will continue to come out from the Democratic Party. I think
◇ Lee Jae-young: 50 or 100 or 1,000? There are a lot of them. I heard there are a lot. Yes, so I don't know when or where something will come out, and when I hear what Democratic Party lawmakers say in the media, they say they will use it strategically. So, I'm going to use a strategy that makes it come out even when I keep peeling it. That's why, as you said, the president's sincerity will be a very important inflection point in the future, and if you take a step back and think about it, our former Supreme Council member said earlier, but we have to reform the four major reforms now. But what do you do without the consent of the four major corporations of the National Assembly? In addition, if the National Assembly's consent is not possible because of the Democratic Party, at least public opinion, especially public sentiment, should be supported.
◆ Shin Yul: I don't know. That's important.
◇ Lee Jae-young: If this doesn't work tomorrow, the public sentiment will die down. I don't think I'll ever come back. So, I don't think Yongsan has any fools. Since you know all these things comprehensively, I would like to believe that you and especially the president will know how important tomorrow is.
■ Park Sung-min: The president said he would go even if he was hit by the stone. I'm going on my way, but you haven't come to the speech recently. That's why they didn't come to get hit by stones. So, seeing the irony of this situation where you said you would go get stoned, but you don't even come to get stoned, I hope you will be prepared to get stoned at the press conference tomorrow. So, the stone-throwers couldn't keep throwing stones, so the towers were built and piled up, but so far, I think you really built that iron wall. However, it seems urgent to stand in front of sharp questions from reporters tomorrow and speak honestly and honestly, rather than consistently with a lie or a very poor or ridiculous explanation like the presidential office's explanation.
◆ [Voiceover] Yeah, that's right. I think that even if we face this stone, we have expressed a certain determination in promoting policies such as the four major reforms, but the problem is that public opinion must be well supported in order for such policy to be implemented properly, but that is not the case now. And I think it paid off. But I want to think about what caused the performance to be invisible and make it visible if there was a performance tomorrow, so I want to see it. Let's reduce the order of the first part here. Let's continue talking in part two.
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