What does the Hong Joon Pyo mean, "Yoon, negotiating with the opposition party if the ruling party fails to recover?"

■ Host: Kim Sun-young Anchor
■ Starring: Kim Hyung-joo, Special Professor at Semyung University, Shin Ji-ho, Vice President of Strategic Planning for People's Power,

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[Anchor]
Political commentary with a living angle, let's start at the minute. We invited Shin Ji-ho, the Vice President of the Strategic Planning Department of the People's Power, and Kim Hyung-joo, a special professor at Semyung University. Welcome. Please show us the first keyword. We need to negotiate with Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo and the Democratic Party. It's controversial that he said this. Ditch the party in a meeting with the president of Yoon Suk Yeol and negotiate with the Democratic Party. That's what I said. Let's listen to it for ourselves.

Now negotiate with the Democrats. There's even this kind of advice. As you have heard, President Yoon Suk Yeol's response has not yet been delivered. What do you mean by negotiating? Are you telling me to hold hands?

[Shin Jiho]
Well, I don't know what you mean. However, if you interpret it literally, a person who has represented the party twice says he has been a stickler for 30 years. It is the main body of this party that has protected this party. I'm the backbone. He served as the party's leader twice. He should abandon this party and do something with the opposition party. Just ignore this party at all and do it. But if you do that, the president will leave the party, hold a meeting with representative Lee Jae-myung, and form a national cabinet. Can someone who has served as the party's leader twice say this? I can't help but suspect my ears. The president's reaction earlier. I think the president must have been very confused when he heard it. How can one of the party's leaders say such absurd things twice?

[Anchor]
Anyway, he is the president of Yoon Suk Yeol who was elected as a sign of the power of the people, and negotiate with the Democratic Party when he met the president. Does this imply that the president should defect? How do you interpret it?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
Depending on the interpretation, let's leave the party plus political reform. For example, when Chairman Lee Jae-myung is also shaken in November, the Democratic Party of Korea may have various confusion. Then, there may be people from within, such as Kim Han-gil, chairman of the National Integration Committee, or former Minister Park Young-sun. Isn't this the key? It is not easy to continue to demand various party strategies or special inspectors, which are currently led by representative Han Dong-hoon, from the perspective of representative Hong Joon Pyo. That's what it's like. Another thing is that the president did not go to the National Assembly last time because the Democratic Party of Korea booed him. I think there is some criticism about what you said at the press conference to the public. In a sense, the president has a problem in recognizing the opposition party as a partner and not explaining the 2025 budget plan, no matter how bitter he criticizes the Democratic Party. In addition to those words, it is a voice of loyalty like this, asking for more flexibility and patriotism in state affairs with a forward-looking attitude.

[Anchor]
We also talked about legislative conflicts in front of reporters, and we are not playing our role as the ruling party. In other words, it can be interpreted as a voice of criticism that raises the issue of CEO Han Dong-hoon's leadership.

[Shin Ji-ho]
If you say that, it's honest. So, the Hong Joon Pyo market is actually long overdue. I can't explain this because the logic I claimed a while ago and the logic I'm arguing now contradict each other. It's been a long time since we've lost logical consistency. If you look at his Facebook page or something like that, he used to talk about A among A and B on the same issue, but now he talks about B. So logical consistency has been lost for a long time, so I don't think it's a matter of taking it too seriously. I think this came out of anger, too. Even when you spoke earlier, your expression and tone of speech were quite intense. But there's one thing that's consistent. Jealousy and hatred for Han Dong-hoon, this is consistent. There is already no logical consistency because the story comes out spontaneously in the jealousy and hatred of Han Dong-hoon. You can take it that way.

[Anchor]
As jealousy grows, logical integrity continues to decline, he criticized me like this. In any case, negotiate with the Democratic Party of Korea, Rep. Lee Yang-soo of the People's Power analyzed this. Let's listen to it.

We need cooperation between the government and the government. How did you hear that I said it in a different way to convey this meaning?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
Rep. Lee Yang-soo wants to wrap it in a pretty wrapping paper, but the content is not an actual gift, but a stone. No matter how pretty the wrapping paper is, it is essentially difficult to cover. However, rather than attacking the Daegu market in Hong Joon Pyo with such things, there can be various bitter sounds anyway. I think the cause is the presidential approval rating. Since the approval rating is below 20%, the president, whose approval rating is continuously low, is likely to talk about this and that at the level of about half of the administration. In that sense, I think the Hong Joon Pyo market is cutting off such a start.

[Anchor]
The mayor of Hong Joon Pyo continued to criticize this criticism, saying that it only creates disturbances and the party fights. But Vice-President Shin Ji-ho recently said this in the media. Right now, there is no close relationship between the party and the party. The president also got on the revamp train. Is that the right atmosphere?

[Shin Jiho]
That's right. Should I say it's more fun to talk about that at this time? However, the mood of thawing after the president's press conference last week after being in an uncomfortable relationship between Yoon and South Korea, and some media outlets say it is a truce. The relationship is improving. The relationship is improved and the ruling and opposition parties are in operation. In-house theories on the issue of the special inspector are also expected to be collected and decided at the general meeting tomorrow. There was a warm breeze after a long time, but he was uncomfortable. He's uncomfortable with the warm breeze and improving the Yoon-Han relationship. You want to see President Yoon Suk Yeol throw out Representative Han Dong-hoon, asking if there is such a disgusting person.

[Anchor]
You have to fight, but is it because you didn't fight?

[Shin Jiho]
Otherwise, I don't think it's possible to explain why we're talking about that now.

[Anchor]
I also wondered that the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo is not a person who has no political sense. What is the intention of saying such an intense story in a situation where the sea ice atmosphere is in place for the first time in a long time?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
Anyway, there was a lot of talk just now.Ma believes that there may be some discomfort and anxiety about being erased or forgotten as the next presidential candidate anyway. On the one hand, don't you think it's a mercenary for both the president and representative Han Dong-hoon because they pretend to be for the president and don't you understand? So you're saying that you're a guest and that I'm the owner. So, I can't really guess whether this is actually a gesture to hold hands with the president or a party to say anything that's uncomfortable in this better situation, I think I should look at it that way.

[Anchor]
In any case, you can be afraid of being forgotten as a presidential candidate, but the president and representative Han Dong-hoon are mercenaries. Let's listen to that for a moment, too.

Even former CEO Hwang Kyo-ahn said that all of them are mercenaries. President Yoon Suk Yeol said he should be grateful, but I don't think the term mercenary will benefit the president.

[Shin Jiho]
In that sense, it's been quite a while since the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo joined the party, but he was a mercenary in the early days. It's in the Alliance, Gya, and Gyeongsang-do dialect toward representative Han Dong-hoon, who is over fifty years old, but as far as I know, he is in his early 40s that he wears the badge of a lawmaker. What was the Hong Joon Pyo then? Were you in your 50s and aligning and slim, then you were a baby with a bad smell? It's like this. And isn't the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo also a person who made his name quite famous with the so-called sand clock inspection, and came into politics with it and made soft landing and soft landing? In a way, it is similar in that he came to the conservative party as a prosecutor and became a major leader. I don't think it's good to look at your case and others' cases objectively. So what's really unfortunate for me is that the Hong Joon Pyo market was a person with very good intuition. He has a very good intuition, but I think those things are becoming blurred a lot now. I feel sorry that one person is withering a little bit in a way like that.

[Anchor]
Anyway, that's how everyone sees CEO Han Dong-hoon as a competitor for the presidential election. How did you hear it when it seems that you intend to highlight this part of your party for 30 years by overlapping the image of a mercenary?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
Regardless of whether they are mercenaries or not, the members of the People's Power Party only need to vote with more than 60% support from representative Han Dong-hoon. For example, the president of our country brought foreigners and elected them president because there was no one suitable in Korea, so the overwhelming majority of the people... Then can we curse that part? Can you blame me? Isn't that the choice of party members and that a point they should reflect on? How bad are seniors and existing lawmakers who have formed a party that requires mercenaries? In fact, I think that's a lie-down spitting story. At the same time, they are the same mercenaries, but President Yoon is a person to be grateful for because he was elected. If this person is elected later, can I thank him then? That's not right. So, even if we bring up mercenaries, as I said, the existing seniors who make the country difficult should reflect on themselves to become presidential candidates, presidents, and representatives of our party. Rather, if you said that, it gives you a certain level of inspiration. But equally, those people are all customers, they said they were mercenaries, and the president was elected, so they should be grateful. What's with Han Donghoon? It doesn't make sense to split like this.

[Anchor]
But is it a compliment to be a grateful mercenary? Is it a criticism?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
Even so, our party let us take power. Then is the 6:4 compliment 6? Is it 5:5? It's a very difficult problem.

[Anchor]
I think I also wonder how President Yoon Suk Yeol will accept the word mercenary. Anyway, Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo has recently raised the level of criticism against representative Han Dong-hoon, and he has also raised the issue of the party's bulletin board. It means that an article criticizing Yoon Suk Yeol's president has been posted under the same name as CEO Han Dong-hoon and Han's family. Are you trying to find out what happened within the party?

[Shin Jiho]
I know that the investigation is conducted calmly within the party. It's because I'm not directly involved in the investigation. If you think about it in common sense, what's confirmed is Han Dong-hoon, who can write on our party's bulletin board. CEO Han Dong-hoon is registered as eight Han Dong-hoon, under the name Han Dong-hoon. CEO Han Dong-hoon confirmed that he had never registered there. He's the same name, and CEO Han Dong-hoon was born in 1973. None of the eight registered Han Dong-hoon were born in 1973. That's confirmed, but isn't it almost surreal that the party leader and his family use their real names like that? But why are there people trying to raise the problem so big at this point with this?

It's been a long time since I went to Yoon Hae-Mood and the first trial ruling on Lee Jae-myung's serious crimes is scheduled for November 25, so it's time for internal unity more than ever, but some people are in our party and others outside the party. If this problem is not solved, it seems like everything is not working, but you don't know what's important. The investigation will show the results anyway, but why are you raising your blood pressure with the problem that will end up with a single happening? I don't think so.

[Anchor]
It is surreal that CEO Han Dong-hoon and his family members slandered the president on the bulletin board where all real names were confirmed, which makes no sense, but since it is a system in which those who raise questions can write only by authenticating their real names, in a way, the investigation should be conducted thoroughly and CEO Han Dong-hoon has questions such as why he does not come up with his position. How do you see that?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
The reason why I don't make a position is because this is ridiculous from the beginning, so if I make a position, the person who raised the question like Jang Ye-chan refutes it. I think there is a possibility that this is not worth answering one by one because it seems like the party and the government are in a mood of reconciliation for the first time in a long time.

However, at the party level, an investigation into whether the system really needs to be self-authenticated. And we talked about some things earlier.There are parts about whether it is operating like that for those who are in contact with overseas, so I think it is necessary to review that objectively at the party level. [Anchor] I'm curious about CEO Han Dong-hoon's reaction. Have you talked about it?

[Shin Ji-ho]
I didn't mention this in public. Before the Supreme Council, the pre-meeting will be closed to the public. We all laughed and talked there. I thought they wouldn't think it was me, but everyone in the audience laughed. That's the problem. And as Representative Kim Hyung-joo pointed out, in the case of overseas Koreans, there are many cases where they do not have a resident registration number.

So there may be a slight mistake in authenticating your real name. So there may be some loopholes in management. So, we should calmly investigate those things this time and carefully check the loopholes and problems of the party's bulletin board management system to supplement them.

[Anchor]
I think the reason why CEO Han Dong-hoon does not come up with a position can be replaced by that laughter. Let's move on to the next keyword. Please show us. Representative Lee Jae-myung will be sentenced the day after tomorrow in the first trial of the Public Official Election Act. The court decision came out today. It was decided that I wouldn't do a live broadcast. take into account legal interests So the negative impact outweighs the benefits. That's what he said.

[Kim Hyung-joo]
The last time I did the live broadcast was the final trial. Regarding the Supreme Court's ruling, if the public interest takes precedence over legal interest at that time, and then the internal court made a judgment, this is also the first trial. In that sense, it is still difficult to call it a public interest. There's that aspect. The other thing I feel a little sad about is that CEO Han Dong-hoon asked me to do a live broadcast, so I don't know if I needed to make such an attack.

It can be done through a spokesperson comment, and this is the court's decision. In that respect, if the special inspector claims it, he has to get the cooperation of the opposition party, but I don't know if politicians are very skilled.Let's attack with one bite and cooperate with the inspector, not the special prosecutor. It doesn't really touch my heart.

So, didn't the Hong Joon Pyo market also express that part for the time being? So, even if the ruling party itself is improving relations with the opposition party, the president should do it if he really doesn't want to see the opposition party or go to the National Assembly. Then the party asked the special inspector president to accept it.

Then in the end, what remains is representative Han's task. I need to get cooperation from the opposition party. I am also not strategically correct in terms of the fact that the party leader has to talk about the unfair live broadcasting issue, which is rejected as a result. The party can attack. You also have a spokesperson. But to say that directly... Then turn around and let the special inspector agree with the ruling and opposition parties. In fact, it's a legal matter. The Democratic Party also has a bit too much. However, in that respect, strategic consistency, I think that's a shame.

[Anchor]
Even the party leader pointed out that it was necessary to say that several times. How did you see it?

[Shin Ji-ho]
Since the Democratic Party of Korea is very explicitly threatening judges, our party also had to do something minimal as a means to counteract. Next, the demand for live trial broadcasting is that the Democratic Party of Korea will gather 5,000 people nationwide on Friday when the ruling is made and hold a protest in front of the Central District Court in Seocho-dong to demand Lee Jae-myung's innocence.

Just because Lee Jae-myung is innocent doesn't mean he's threatening the judge with multiple powers. There have been cases of live trial broadcasts in the past and during the president of Park Geun Hye. I don't think it's a problem to make such a claim in itself because such trials, which focus on the people's right to know and social concerns, can be broadcast live in some cases.

This is not what we did to make the court guilty of Lee Jae-myung. The Democratic Party of Korea should write Lee Jae-myung's innocence now. If you don't use it, I won't let you go. We're making threats like this, but we're just asking for live broadcasts in terms of the people's right to know, and there have been similar cases in the past, so we're asking for that.

[Anchor]
Anyway, live broadcasting was not allowed, but we will be able to check the results of the first trial by breaking news the day after tomorrow afternoon. According to the results of the first trial, the Democratic Party of Korea will have no choice but to bear a big burden if the fine exceeds 1 million won.

[Kim Hyung-joo]
That's right. Actually, but CEO Lee Jae-myung is more interested in the perjury teacher than this trial. Because the sphere itself is higher. In that sense, Rep. Yoon Sang-hyun has said that to some extent about the election law, but he is being criticized within the party.Ma thought that even if he could be nullified in the first trial, he could get out of it in the second and third trials.

Of course the Democratic Party has pleaded not guilty from the beginning.It is difficult to say that Ma is so completely innocent, but in the long run, I think Lee Jae-myung is making this judgment that the final trial of the election law will not end with Lee Jae-myung's nullification of the election.

[Anchor]
Representative Yoon Sang-hyun, a member of the People's Power, not the Democratic Party of Korea, said, "Since 100 is usually 80 times, I think I will get 80 again this time."

[Shin Ji-ho]
Lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun is a very bright person, but I can't understand why he said that. There will be no work to help Lee Jae-myung. But how much would representative Lee Jae-myung have been happy to hear lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun's story? If a ruling party lawmaker does that, if a senior ruling party lawmaker does that, the court can use it without much worry. But lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun is not a legal professional. Legal professionals say that if you are innocent, you should be innocent, but you won't use 80 or 90 like this.

[Anchor]
I've never seen 90, but I think I've seen 80 a lot.

[Shin Ji-ho]
It comes out at 90 degrees by accident.

[Anchor]
In any case, I think it will be more embarrassing if it is true, as Representative Yoon Sang-hyun said, but the Democratic Party of Korea is focusing all of its efforts on outdoor rallies ahead of the first trial of Lee Jae-myung. Representative Lee Jae-myung said this to the police this morning. Let's listen to it.

[Anchor]
Representative Lee Jae-myung expressed strong dissatisfaction with the police. I even said that the white bone comes to mind in the 1980s. Is it such a complaint that they are oversuppressing now?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
There was also a screen where a person participating in the protest of the Korean Confederation of Trade Unions was trampled. This is because Han Sang-min, a member of the National Assembly, was injured and his clothes were torn. Nevertheless, if I am the leader of an authoritative party, I think I should go toward protecting public power.

No matter how overheated the rally is, it is asked to do it in the line of keeping order, and it is regrettable that Rep. Han Sang-min was over-suppressed to the point where his clothes were torn apart. That's why it shouldn't be added: Isn't it too much of an emotional response to the national budget to cut the entire police budget with a budget? Since it is interpreted as a takeover, such parts continue to accumulate, and the entire public is very afraid to see the Democratic Party as a party that is not stable.

[Anchor]
The police launched an internal investigation into the executive branch of the Korean Confederation of Trade Unions because there were various illegal activities during the downtown rally. Anyway, is the opposition trying to highlight this image that the police repression is severe, and the opposition party is the victim of this oppression?

[Shin Ji-ho]
Then, is Sejong-daero 10 lanes when the KCTU reports the assembly? I decided to use half of them, five lanes. However, contrary to what they wrote on the assembly report, they are trying to occupy the other lanes beyond the five lanes. So should I leave it alone? Then can we say it's a proper rule of law?

In the U.S., it crosses the police line. All members of Congress are arrested and handcuffed at the scene. Then, is it the anti-civilized barbaric country that Lee Jae-myung is talking about? Those people of the KCTU didn't keep their promise. And if you come over to another lane, won't the damage caused by traffic jams go to an unspecified number of citizens? I didn't talk about it at all. Baekgoldan in the 1980s? I really think that the leader of the main opposition party said something very ridiculous, ridiculous.

[Anchor]
It keeps coming out on the screen, but it's the Democratic Party's outdoor rally. The Democratic Party will continue its outdoor rally until December. What's written on the sign is Kim Gun-hee's special prosecutor. How that phrase will change in the future is also a point to watch, and on the other hand, a campaign to sign Lee Jae-myung's innocence is being held.

I'll give you a common question. In other words, it will increase the heat of outdoor rallies by December, but the results of Lee Jae-myung's trial will also be a watershed. I heard that the number of people in the second round decreased a little compared to the first, what do you think will happen in the future?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
In fact, that's the Democratic Party's concern. It is said that the second round was less than the first, but there was not much the first round. I went and saw it during the first round, and the local committee that was agreed upon from all over the country brought the flag, and the party members came. If you meet like that, citizens cannot participate even if they want to.

Because it looked like a strict party convention. It's completely different from the last time. It has not been a rally where you can naturally participate with a stroller. And the second is actually covered by the Korean Confederation of Trade Unions, and the time is continuing to rise because the party members are not there and there are no more citizens, but in Lee Jae-myung's mind, the trial is piled up and is imminent, and the party members are not boiling as much as they think.

However, it does not mean that the public will be dissatisfied with the Yoon administration or support for the special prosecution against Kim. However, it is necessary to consider that the Democratic Party's behavior itself is not a behavior that can be accepted.

[Shin Ji-ho]
Isn't it that the Democratic Innovation Conference, an outside organization of Representative Lee Jae-myung, will gather 5,000 people on the day of the trial and do it in front of the court? But I happened to see the notice yesterday, and all the people who fly from the provinces will pay for their flights. What would that be?

You have to spend that much money to do something. If that's the case, then I'll voluntarily get really angry and protect Lee Jae-myung, and even if I spend my money, let's go to Seoul and do it. So I see that the tax is going to decrease as time goes by.

[Anchor]
The results of the first trial are coming out the day after tomorrow, and we'll see what changes thereafter. They were Shin Ji-ho, Vice-President of the Strategic Planning Department of the People's Power, and Kim Hyung-joo, a special professor at Semyung University. Thank you.