[News NIGHT] "The First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act" passed... "Lee Jae-myung is guilty and innocent" battle

■ Host: anchor Sung Moon-gyu
■ Appearance: Jang Sung-ho, former president of Konkuk University Graduate School of Public Administration, Park Chang-hwan, special professor at Jangan University

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[Anchor]
It's time for "Focus Night" to point out the news of political interest. Today, Jang Sung-ho, former president of Konkuk University Graduate School of Public Administration, and Park Chang-hwan, a special professor at Jangan University. Hello, both of you. Today, the third "Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act" passed the National Assembly plenary session led by the opposition party. The ruling and opposition parties fought fiercely over the bill. Let's hear the related remarks first.

[Park Chan-dae / Floor Leader of the Democratic Party of Korea: It is only a matter of time before President Kim Gun-hee and Yoon Seok-yeol of Yongsan and his wife become the duck eggs of Nakdonggang River after being slapped by the public and misleading them about public sentiment. Once again, the public sentiment is to conduct Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel. If Kim Gun-hee rejects the independent counsel law again, the sovereign people will order him to be fired. ]

[Joo Jin-woo / People's Power] I think this scene of the sudden independent investigation of only two cases clearly reveals that the suspicions that the Democratic Party has claimed have been fake and a sham. The bill has not even been subjected to a minimum legal review. The Deutsche Motors case is pending trial in the Supreme Court, and is it right that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is involved in selecting an independent counsel investigating those people? ]

[Anchor]
The First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act crossed the threshold of the plenary session again today, but this time, an amendment has been made. So, it is said that the subject of the investigation has been drastically reduced, but how has it changed in detail?

[PARK CHANG HWAN]
If you look at it broadly, it can be seen that it has changed in two ways. It was an issue that had been demanded that the power of the people was unconstitutional, but whether it was right for the opposition to appoint a special prosecutor. So I've been criticizing this a lot, but this time, I've introduced a 4-2-1 method. First, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court will recommend four candidates. Then, the opposition party can choose two from them, but if the four chief justice of the Supreme Court do not like it, they have the right to request that they return it and do it again. And because the opposition party has changed it to a way in which the president appoints one of the two people if they pick up two of them. Of course, given that the opposition party selects two people, it can be criticized as blindfolded from the people's power, but given that the chief justice of the Supreme Court was given the right to recommend four people, and specifically, the president was allowed to choose one of the two, many of the things that he said were unconstitutional have been resolved. The second is the special prosecutor's investigation so far, and this was 12 cases. But now that there are 12 cases like this, can this be done by an independent counsel? This meant that the ruling party would investigate all of them, or that there were too many, so I drastically compressed it into two. One is that she will discuss Kim's alleged involvement in Deutsche Motors, which has been controversial. The second one is called the pollack gate. Of course, this includes public opinion polls, nomination intervention, and manipulation of state affairs, but anyway, the pollster gate. This is the position of the Democratic Party of Korea, which has largely reflected what the ruling party has claimed so far because it has been compressed into two.

[Anchor]
The ruling party's argument was largely reflected, but he left today and did not attend the vote.

[Jang Sung Ho]
I don't understand what is reflected in a big way, I can't speak well, but I don't understand what is reflected in a big way. Let's do a third-party special prosecutor, just that one. The same letters are not the same, are they? You have the right to veto, and you have the person who prosecuted, and you have a system in which a particular party can appoint an independent counsel for everything, and this is a law that has no neutrality or objectivity. Even if a constitutional petition is filed for such an evil law, I think this is a law that violates the Constitution. How can the power of the people accept this from the ruling party's point of view? I choose the law I made, choose the judge, choose the prosecutor, and if someone recommended it and you don't like it, keep recommending it until you like it, do you think it's the right law to do that? It doesn't matter whether you reduce 13 to two or increase 50 to 50. Shouldn't the core, the law, be balanced and generalizable and applicable? I think it's not the law to target a particular person, it's a solitary confession.

[Anchor]
In any case, today's People's Power decided to propose the exercise of the right to request reconsideration to the President through party theory. If that happens, the 28th will be the key, and the 28th will come back and vote again, so what will happen to the departure ticket then? What do you expect?

[Jang Sung Ho]
Why would Democrats do a special counsel? I always said this last time, but isn't it an impeachment build-up for Lee Jae-myung's BTS? Why do you have a weekend rally? Just like that. And why would you go to the court to demonstrate and demonstrate the results of tomorrow's trial as well? It means that we will not abide by the normal democratic legal process, which is why I think that the independent counsel will be created and passed by the majority party, which is the tyranny of the parliament. If the ruling party passes such a thing and leaves without voting here, wouldn't it be necessary to do it again if the president requests a reconsideration on the 28th and vetoes it? I think this is a contradiction in parliamentary democracy, but we should go and vote. But now, the people say all these things are too much for the Democratic Party to do. You know that to a certain extent, and the weekend rally, the Democratic Party says it's 300,000, but don't you expect the police to be 25,000 to 30,000 now? In that situation, if a request for reconsideration is made and voted on in the National Assembly, the people's power is 108 seats. I'm tired of this now here, too. Aren't there some lawmakers who know this essence? It could be in the Democratic Party, it could be in a third party. So I think that more than 108 seats of the people's power are more likely to oppose it.

[Anchor]
Now, the opposition party will vote to leave, let alone vote to leave the people's power.

[Jang Sung Ho]
I think it's normal only when the opposition party votes to leave.

[Anchor]
How do you see it?

[PARK CHANG HWAN]
What's more important than talking about every word is that the time has come for the members of the People's Power to make a choice. Whether to exercise his or her voting rights for Yongsan or Kim Bangtan, or to cooperate in finding out the truth to resolve public suspicions. In the meantime, CEO Han Dong-hoon told Mrs. Kim to cooperate with the fact-finding of cases related to pollack bacteria. What should I do now? If you look at the prosecution's investigation, the prosecution's search warrant for Myung Tae-kyun, and these details, there is no mention of Kim. In the end, it seems clear that he will only investigate the things related to lawmaker Kim Young-sun. In this situation, the prosecution is not investigating various suspicions related to Kim, so who does it? There is only an independent counsel. In the end, I think it depends on the public's approval rating whether or not there will be a departure vote that exceeds the last four votes in the future. Even now, the trend of declining approval ratings has not stopped, and if the ruling party, which is called a special inspector, seems to have put forward a very big card, but if the approval rating continues to fall despite this, I think embarrassment within the ruling party could lead to an insurrection vote. Another is that the re-vote is likely to take place on the 28th, and I hope that if additional and decisive evidence such as the last Yoon Suk Yeol president's voice record comes out, this could have a huge impact on public opinion and that would lead to more than four votes of rebellion.

[Anchor]
We'll have to wait and see for another two weeks.

[Jang Sung Ho]
But aren't we a procedural democratic, rule of law? But if the prosecution does not find out the truth about this, then every time we did a special prosecutor 14 times, was there a proper special prosecutor? And if the special prosecution is conducted, the ruling party and the opposition party should agree to do it, but if the opposition party unilaterally insists on such special prosecution three or four times, of course, it means that it will hold a people's trial. So I don't think we should do politics outside of these laws and institutions of democracy.

[Anchor]
I see. The ruling party, which left the plenary session today, held its own parliamentary meeting. We responded by pushing for the appointment of a special inspector. Let's listen to the atmosphere of today's gun.

[Choo Kyung-ho / People's Power Floor Leader: The party leader briefly talked about the need for a special inspection first, and our lawmakers did not argue on specific issues, but at this point, all of our parties should unite and go together, maintain a solid unity, and join forces here. ]

[Anchor]
It's said that there was no room for an argument. So, there have been quite a few close and pro-Yoon temperature differences in the promotion of the special inspector, but this has been confirmed by the party theory. Without a vote.

[Jang Sung Ho]
I think it's all thanks to the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is too impeachment-oriented to go for a hard drive, out-of-the-box rallies, and every weekend. This is, of course, an impeachment build-up for Lee Jae-myung's bulletproof body, but nevertheless, it is so strong that the power of the 108-seat minority party has no choice but to unite, right? The power struggle is much worse now, and the internal power struggle is much worse due to the physiology of the party. That's how we started, and now we can't, since the Democratic Party is so strong, we should unite first to deal with the Democratic Party and then compete for internal power struggles or the future. It went into such a temporary cease-fire. Now, let's take a look at the sentence of Chairman Lee Jae-myung and unite to see the Democratic Party's wave offensive, the power of majority vote, and tyranny. Let's prevent this and then support the president as the ruling party and then prepare for the next administration. I think this is what it looks like now that it's roughly organized like that.

[Anchor]
The people's power was supposed to be blocked by a special inspector, so what do you think? What is it? I think it was also a party's idea not to link it with the recommendation of directors of the North Korean Human Rights Foundation. Wouldn't it be effective if the Democratic Party received it?

[PARK CHANG HWAN]
The Democratic Party's position is consistent. Special inspection, you can do it. However, if he receives an independent counsel, he will also receive a special inspection. No one disputes that it's good to have a special feeling. He said, "It's all thanks to the Democratic Party of Korea that he's going to do special inspection." The special inspection that the pro-Yoon-gye opposed has now been pro-actively received because of the president's approval rating and approval rating that dropped from 20 percent to 17 percent last week, which is why he feels a sense of crisis that he shouldn't do this. That's why he took the special inspection because he thought he would be in big trouble if he didn't even get a special inspection. One should not dream of how to break through the crisis with this, so-called avoidability. The special inspector is literally a daily surveillance and supervisory body to prevent the president's relatives from committing corruption in the future. But what are you going to do about what's already happened? In that regard, it is right to receive an independent counsel and conduct a special inspection. In that sense, I don't think the people will be at the public's level with a special sense, and I think they're just peeing on their faces.

[Jang Sung Ho]
From the opposition party's point of view, it has no choice but to go past-oriented. To criticize, to come up with alternatives, and to fight. That's why it's most effective to investigate the past and find out what happened in the past, and the Democratic Party of Korea has a considerable judicial risk, right? On top of that, the opposition party is quite urgent because Cho Kuk, the leader of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party, also has a Supreme Court ruling at the end of the year. That's why it's such a system that's favorable to the ruling party because the special inspection is to monitor what's going to happen in the future. So would you like the Democrats to move on? Or would you like to do the past-oriented and sell it later? That is why the ruling party here will do well in the future, we will reflect on ourselves and do well. That's why my professor said that the president's approval rating has declined, and I think I'll do a bottom-up here. That's what I'm sure. That's why the Democratic Party doesn't care much about this special inspection. Nevertheless, from the ruling party's point of view, it has no choice but to pursue a special inspector in the way that the past should be left to the prosecution's investigation of past history and how to do well in the future.

[PARK CHANG HWAN]
It happened in the Yoon Suk Yeol government, how does it become a history? For example, if the Yoon Suk Yeol regime is over, I don't know, but the Yoon Suk Yeol administration, which is currently only half of its term, has come along with the beginning. It hasn't even been a few months since it became a problem. But if we cover up the past and go to the future, isn't it a problem that all black holes in state affairs lead to Myung Tae-kyun and Kim Gun-hee? If we don't solve this, we can't go into the future, so let's do an independent counsel.

[Anchor]
Thank you for what you two said. Professor Jang Sung-ho said earlier that factional conflict is a temporary ceasefire, but I don't know. The party's bulletin board that slandered President Yoon and his wife again today, and this continues to be controversial, but representative Han made his position today. The entrance has been made. I said it. I told you that you don't need to make a fuss without it, how do you see this case now?

[Jang Sung Ho]
All kinds of abusive language and criticism on the bulletin board of the People's Power Party. Of course, there are quite a few fierce supporters because this has become politicized as a result of various fandom on social media, right? The bulletin board of the People's Power Party must be certified by the responsible party member. Since authentication requires various basic personal information, the name was originally OO, but only the last name came out. Only the last name comes out. Recently, however, I've done this by circling only the center and revealing my name, but on September 1st, one person is supposed to post only 3 times a day, but isn't there a lot of things going up at the same time now? So, of course, the party does not distinguish between pro-yoon and close me. That's not the problem, and even for CEO Han Dong-hoon, the police investigation is bound to proceed because it has already been accused by the police. I don't know if a party audit will reveal this. Because it's personal information. If personal information is stolen, wouldn't there be a limit to the party's investigation and tracking? Therefore, the investigation is regarded as an issue that should be done by investigative agencies, police or prosecutors, so the general secretary of the party will conduct a party audit to find out. In the end, I think it is an issue that has no choice but to request the prosecution or the police to investigate after being audited by the party.

[Anchor]
So, floor leader Choo Kyung-ho said earlier that there was no controversy over the special inspector, but I think there was a controversy over the party's bulletin board. As you said earlier, some lawmakers insisted on party audits. What's going to happen to this?

[PARK CHANG HWAN]
The passport is temporarily closed ahead of the first trial sentence of CEO Lee Jae-myung. So, we had a very rough fight in the ruling camp, and the decisive moment for the temporary sealing as a special inspector is Lee Jae-myung's first trial ruling. If the first trial ruling had not been present, it would not have been sealed, and there would have been more intense power struggles. In this regard, Hyegyeonggung Kim, who was in the Democratic Party of Korea in the past, probably shows one side of the internal power struggle, which is now temporarily sealed, but it is highly likely to become a time bomb one day. In the meantime, there have been many analyses that President Yoon Suk Yeol and Representative Han Dong-hoon are so-called emotional battles. In fact, posts on these bulletin boards, especially about the president and his wife, are likely to burn again volatile whenever there is a controversy between the so-called Yongsan and the ruling party leader when another problem arises in the future. If this happens, it is very likely to become the seed of the passport controversy. It is covered now, but after the first trial ruling of Lee Jae-myung's representative, I think the issue will emerge again in the winter.

[Anchor]
I see. And what we need to see right now is the first trial of Lee Jae-myung's violation of the election law tomorrow. The voices of the ruling and opposition parties, who respectively plead guilty and not guilty, are also growing. I'll listen to it myself.

[Ko Min-jung / Rep. of the Democratic Party of Korea (MBC Radio 'Kim Jong-bae's Attention'): I think many people have confidence that they are innocent. And there's been a lot of speculation over the past few years about how this will affect our party when it's found not guilty and when it's found guilty. However, according to the current score, there is a consensus that the party is unlikely to shake much even if it is found guilty. ]

[Jang Dong-hyuk / National People's Power Congressman (YTN Radio 'News of Shinryul' head-to-head match' on the 13th): Based on the law and the existing sentencing standards, I think it is natural to be convicted of the Public Official Election Act and sentencing is limited to more than 2 million won in terms of the existing sentencing or legal principles. ]

[Anchor]
Representative Lee Jae-myung is sentenced in the first trial related to tomorrow's violation of the election law, and he is accused of speaking false information during the last presidential election, right? Please sort out the issues.

[PARK CHANG HWAN]
There are two main issues. As the whole nation remembers, at the last presidential debate, there were interviews and discussions about the late Kim Moon-ki to then-candidate Lee Jae-myung, saying, "Do you know Kim Moon-ki, but I didn't know when I was mayor." If this is a matter of cognition or behavior, that is, there was no transaction, there was not much traffic between the two details, this could be controversial. If this is simply a subjective matter of whether I know the person well or not, and this is a matter of human subjectivity, there are areas where the positions of both sides are fiercely divided. Second, regarding the repurposing of the Baekhyun-dong site, there was such strong pressure that the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport should repurpose it at the time. In this way, candidate Lee Jae-myung claimed at the time, but the evidence he presented was an official letter of cooperation from the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport. These two issues are the key issues in the sentence of violation of the Public Official Election Act, which will take place on the 15th of tomorrow, whether this was a simple notice or whether it was a matter that forced then-Mayor Lee Jae-myung to change its use due to pressure.

[Anchor]
So the standard for the results of tomorrow's first trial is whether or not a fine of more than 1 million won, which is a loss of parliamentary office, will come out. How do you see Professor Jang?

[Jang Sung Ho]
There are two things, tomorrow. I didn't know Kim Moon-ki. The key was a long-standing relationship of approval, direction and supervision as the head of Seongnam Urban Development Corporation, and then went to New Zealand to play golf, take pictures, and hold hands around the tree. If you travel abroad, you can't be unaware of that. According to the rules of experience and logic, legal professionals say that. I didn't know Kim Moon-ki in this situation. This is a very important point to say that it has nothing to do with the Daejangdong case. That's why it's very important. So, there are various evidences and evidence about this in the court. And there is a relationship between approval, instruction, and supervision, but can it be said that I did not know this? Something bigger than this was threatened by the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport to expedite the public transfer of the Food Research Institute, which is much bigger. This is perjury in the testimony of the parliamentary audit, so I think the combination of these two is much greater. If the two are combined rather than the sentencing for each, each sentencing is added and the two come out. So if you look at the interview just now, the Democratic Party is innocent, and the Supreme Council member of the People's Power is fined. He was a judge. They say, "Fine 300". Some people expect up to a year in prison, and I think a fine of 1 million won is the lower limit of not being able to run in the election, and there is a high possibility that more than that will come out.

[Anchor]
There is a high possibility that more than 1 million won will come out. If more than 1 million won comes out, Lee Jae-myung's individual, even though he has to go to the Supreme Court's final ruling, I expect a lot, but the party was also very shocked, financially. Some even say that there will be no problem with the Lee Jae-myung system, Professor Park.

[PARK CHANG HWAN]
Everyone is interested in whether the result of the first trial is over 1 million won or not, but I don't think this is an issue that will end in the short term. Representative Lee Jae-myung is on trial for a total of four cases. Then if you multiply 4 cases by 1st, 2nd, and 3rd trials, it becomes a 12-part drama. It's a very long game. When we watch a drama, there are bound to be twists and turns. That's why I think there may be a fine of more than 1 million won. But what kind of conviction does this ultimately lead to that can give the people that Lee Jae-myung is really a criminal? And as a result of the final trial, I think this is very important, whether you are guilty or not. First of all, the Democratic Party's current position is very determined. Even if there is a fine of more than 1 million won, the Lee Jae-myung leadership system will not change much. I don't know. As some of you said earlier, a very high sentence, sentence. For example, a year in prison or a fine of more than 5 million won. If you say so, the court has a very high conviction of guilt. I don't know if there is a shocking sentence like that, but if it comes out from 1 million won to 1.5 million won, there is a part that can be changed at the second trial, and in the past, representative Lee Jae-myung was controversial over the publication of false information during the election for governor of Gyeonggi-do, and in fact, there was a process of reviving it. If you think about such memories of the past, I'm sure that the Democratic Party is innocent, but nevertheless, there seems to be a lot of views that even if it exceeds 1 million won, there will be no significant change in the situation.

[Jang Sung Ho]
If it's more than 1 million won, 1 million won, 2 million won, 3 million won. Even if that much comes out, Rep. Ko Min-jung is saying that it doesn't matter right now, right? The supporters of political parties and politics fall in an instant. So, if a sentence of more than 1 million won is actually announced tomorrow, I can just hold on for a week or two and say it's okay, I went to the second trial and flipped it over to the Supreme Court in the past, but I can go like that. But don't the rival parties have the power of the people? There is also the power of the people, and the local elections are only about a year and a half away. Therefore, Honam parties have always appeared before the local elections, where the Democratic Party of Korea usually appears before the local elections. Then, in the presidential election again, the first trial sentence of Lee Jae-myung came out to be more than 1 million won because the parties are competing with the conservative party again. Then, I think that it will lay the groundwork for the Honam party to start. And isn't Yoon Suk Yeol's presidential approval rating falling to the bottom right now? This also goes up quickly when it goes up and falls quickly when it falls down. That's why I think that once something like that comes out, it goes to the Supreme Court, and voters and supporters are not patient.

[Anchor]
I see. So anyway, we have to see whether Lee Jae-myung's first trial of violation of the election law tomorrow is guilty or not guilty. If you are guilty, you should look at whether the fine will be more than 1 million won, or less, and whether the prison sentence will be quite large or not. Considering the agitation within the Democratic Party of Korea, you should also pay attention to that. We should talk about Myung Tae-kyun and former lawmaker Kim Young-sun. The warrant was reviewed today and the issuance will be decided soon. In the midst of this, Lee Joon-seok, a member of the New Reform Party, who was the party leader in 2022, is controversial because he mentioned that he was asked to nominate by President Yoon. Let's listen to it ourselves.

[Lee Jun-seok/Representative of the New Reform Party] For example, the president once complained to the president that "Lee Jun-seok is not listening" and asked me to "how to nominate a specific mayor," and he also said, "Isn't it better to give it to the current people because they are not competitive?" It's been a while since I've looked up everything. ]

[Anchor]
When Rep. Lee Joon-seok returned from an overseas business trip, he held a press conference at the airport in a very chair. I did it for about 15 minutes for a long time. In addition to former lawmaker Kim Young-sun, President Yoon mentioned to him the nomination of mayor and district chief. How did you like it?

[PARK CHANG HWAN]
Well, I talked about Rep. Lee Joon-seok's story today, and after that, I met with reporters and talked about various things. We talked a lot about it. Is this why the suspicion of nomination is suspected of involvement, or is it that the president-elect can express his opinion to that extent? In the meantime, he was trying to defend the passport's explanation, but he showed an ambiguous tightrope. So, in fact, when I was interviewed at the airport in the first place, I said as if I was revealing that there were other suspicions of intervention. But it looks like he's taking care of it in the back. Even if the president says it, there are some things we didn't accept and we can express our opinions to that extent. In the end, he's playing with Carl Boyle. There are strong rumors of a connection between Myung Tae-kyun and Lee Joon-seok within the so-called ruling camp and the prosecution's investigation shines as if they are heading in that direction, so there are many people who interpret it as if I have a card like this, but I don't know if Lee Joon-seok was talking about it as it is, or if he was talking about it as it is, or if he said, "Don't touch me anymore while posting an ad balloon to the ruling camp," we will have to wait and see if there is a good person's recommendation, as President Yoon Suk Yeol said at the last press conference, but how should we look at In other words, as Rep. Lee Joon-seok said earlier, whether it should be viewed as an expression of opinion or so-called intervention in nomination, there is a possibility that this will become more controversial in the future, and this is not the general election, but the story of the days when he was elected. Then, did there not be such a thing after the election? There is a possibility that this part will become a new controversy in the future, so depending on what additional stories come out in the future, this could be a megaton level. Or it could be nothing, and I think it's important how much additional evidence comes out in the future.

[Anchor]
Wait a minute. Before we hear what Professor Jang said, Rep. Lee Joon-seok asked him to nominate the mayor and district head, as the president said earlier. While talking, the president and the party leader said that they could talk about that much, and how they said it was that the prosecution can tell you more certain things if it needs to be confirmed. Professor.

[Jang Sung-ho]
I think it's noise marketing. Even if representative Lee Joon-seok was the president-elect at that time, the president-elect was a natural person, and even if he was the president, isn't there a consultation between the government and the government? I think we can have a private conversation when discussing with the party leader. Although he is the leader of the party, I personally hope that the party will do well because such a market is so good here. But when you come into the party, does the representative decide on the nominee? Not at all. The party establishes an organization called the Nomination Management Committee in the Supreme Council centered on the representative, and the nomination committee decides on its own, and decides on the election method, strategic nomination, and so on, and then the representative decides on the final decision after consulting with the supreme council members when the candidate comes back to the top. That's why there can't be such a thing. And there won't be any in the future, I'm sure so.

[Anchor]
Anyway, CEO Lee Joon-seok spoke about this issue this afternoon, so I think there will be another wave after tomorrow. First of all, I don't know. I think we'll get another breaking news tonight. Myung Tae-kyun and former lawmaker Kim Young-sun were reviewed for the warrant today. Let's listen to what you expect and wrap it up. First, Professor Park.

[PARK CHANG HWAN]
It is an issue that cannot be bound. The prosecution has never let the so-called non-electoral line protect the president and his wife. Even if the president's son is so escorted, he has been arrested or investigated. But isn't this the line that we often talk about among the new and new lines? He's been threatening the president and his wife for a month, and he's just letting it go? It can't happen. Legally, Myung Tae-kyun has talked a lot about destroying evidence. I've said a lot that I buried my cell phone in my parents' oxygen and threw it away, but this is a very clear attempt to destroy evidence. This is what you said yourself. Therefore, if the ruling party and the opposition party are not arrested, whether the prosecution has the will to investigate or not, of course, there will be a backlash. The prosecution is not confident about this. That's why I think I'll be 100% bound.

[Jang Sung Ho]
In the end, I think it's a matter for the warrant judge to decide. Because it's worth the existence of the judiciary. Therefore, the case of arrest is either the crime is clarified, or the first. Second, there was a risk of destroying evidence or there was a lot of destroying evidence. And thirdly, there are cases where an arrest warrant is issued if there is a risk of escape or if it is applicable in these three aspects, but isn't 90 million won to 76 million won a problem now? 76 million won is the Political Fund Act because Myung Tae-kyun is not a politician. Because it's been six months. Since the prosecution has now confirmed that 76 million won is the one with a price in the Political Fund Act, the judge will have to confirm whether the 76 million won is worth a price. The second important thing is that we have two candidates, right? I got 120 million each from two people. About 240,000 won. This has a clear price to pay for nominations. So I saw former lawmaker Kim Young-sun and Myung Tae-kyun as accomplices in the prosecution. It's quite likely that this will be acknowledged, so even if you look at this one, it's quite likely that you'll be arrested.

[Anchor]
Both of you saw a big possibility of arrest. Once the breaking news comes out, I'll tell you in detail. That's all for today's talk. Jang Sung-ho, former president of Konkuk University Graduate School of Public Administration, and Park Chang-hwan, a special professor at Jangan University. Thank you.