[News fighting] Cho Won-jin said, "The allegation of misappropriation of Lee's corporate card touches the public's sentiment...Your approval rating might drop."

[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 20, 2024 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast: Cho Won-jin, Representative of the Republican Party

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[YTN Radio <News Fighting, Bae Seunghee]> Please reveal that it's about the interview.
◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee, the news fighting. The second part of Wednesday begins with the peeling. Cho Won-jin, the leader of the Republican Party, is here. Hello, nice to meet you. I look forward to peeling them all today as well. Lee Jae-myung, chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea, was sentenced to one year in prison and two years of probation in the first trial in a case of violation of the Public Official Election Act. How did you like it?

◇Republican Party Chairman Cho Won-jin (hereinafter referred to as Cho Won-jin): The judgment itself was made by a judge with courage. I look at it like this. Another thing is that the Democratic Party's response to this trial has brought a backlash, and the legislature keeps pressuring the judiciary in the National Assembly, even though it took two years and two months to finish the ruling in six months. Impeachment of prosecutors and abusive language against judges have been very disadvantageous. That is why the overall response itself has failed. In view of the Democratic Party's response, there will be many more difficult things in the future for Lee Jae-myung. I was caught in the lowest hurdle.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's right.

◇ Cho Won-jin: If you look at the parts such as the problem of Wijeon teacher, CEO Lee Jae-myung is in the middle of a mountain, but is in the dark.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's in the middle of a mountain. The Democratic Party of Korea criticized that it is now killing a presidential political opponent, but the sentencing was not excessive. That's what you're talking about.

◇ Cho Won-jin: The sentencing came out a little stronger than I thought. That was too much of the actions of the Democratic Party, which monopolizes the National Assembly as I mentioned earlier. Interference with the judiciary and such pressure have an effect that sentencing has come out stronger than expected. So here we go.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. The Democratic Party. I think I'm just waiting for the appeal trial to be innocent. How do you see it? 1st trial

◇ Cho Won-jin: I don't know if I can be acquitted by the appeals court. You can't be innocent by the common sense of the law, not by political or ideological legal standards.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I guess so. Yes, the Democratic Party is very embarrassed. Rep. Lee Hae-sik is... I posted a picture of Lee Jae-myung on social media and wrote, "God's priest, God's servant." Rep. Choi Min-hee will also die if the screaming world moves. Of course, I apologized.He criticized that the power of the people is a competition for loyalty to Hong Hee-byung. How did you hear these comments?

◇ Cho Won-jin: Last time the National Assembly did it to first-term lawmakers during the party leadership election during the People's Power, the opposition party and I, of course, said it was anti-rational collectivism, but now I want to return the words to the Democratic Party. It doesn't fit to say that anti-rational collectivism is something that can't be done as a public party, and it's like an investment in a just struggle. If the people, especially the public party and the main opposition party, should not deviate from the common sense line of the people, what good would it be to be so absorbed in such an idea of a real name as self-centered so-called dog daughter and make such remarks carelessly? In my view, even if Rep. Choi Min-hee is embarrassed, it's very dangerous in politics to say that and act as an enemy if you think differently from yourself. That's why Rep. Chung Min-hee needs to be cautious. That's how I see it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: However, the Democratic Party of Korea has come up with a plan to cover the lawyer's expenses with the party's budget from the second trial on this election law case.

◇ Cho Won-jin: It violates the Political Fund Act. It works right away. I also fought so hard during the Moon Jae In administration that many leftists put up a bet, but I can't use all of them with my own money or even a single penny to the party.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Anyway, isn't there a reason why you want to do this?

◇ Cho Won-jin: It's a competition of loyalty. In the end, it will be difficult for Lee Jae-myung to move on. Yes, so naturally, there comes a situation where we have no choice but to create a new alternative. Now, the part of the Wijeon teacher on the 25th is clearer.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: What do you expect?

◇Jo Won-jin: Judge Yoo Chang-hoon ordered this without detention, but Judge Yoo Chang-hoon has already made this an explanation. To say that it has become a calling means that the teacher of Wijeon is right. That's right, but considering that, most of the above teachers are sentenced to prison by more than 90%. That's right. Then, since this prison part is made of a very bad material, wouldn't it be hard to get out of prison if it was three years in prison? If that happens, the Democratic Party of Korea will be in a state of panic and panic, but now it has no choice but to come up with an alternative. Then, as for representative Lee Jae-myung, will you continue to go to the second and third trials after receiving a prison sentence? There are more than one or two trials, right? Will it be a driving force to lead like that? I think the Democratic Party will be able to do it, but the people will not be able to do it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. How many years would a prison term be?

◇Jo Won-jin: At least one year

◆ Bae Seunghee: Minimum manpower at least 1 year

◇Jo Won-jin: Based on expectations, it is conventional. However, the court depends on the position of the judge.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But what I expect is that if a lawmaker is sentenced to prison like this, can he be arrested in court right away?

◇ Cho Won-jin: That's quite often the case. There are cases where they are arrested in court. Because we have to argue a little bit about the legal part, but in the situation of Judge Yoo Chang-hoon last time, those parts are about immunity, so it is a more legal judgment, but wouldn't we go to court arrest? Still, if this comes out as a prison sentence,

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Words without probation

◇Jo Won-jin: If you get a probation for about two years a year, including the probation of the case behind you, the case behind you is even bigger. That's right. If I'm in the middle of a mountain, I can go over one if I'm distracted, but there are too many mountains with high mountains. So it's time for Lee Jae-myung to think about it. I think there will be a situation where Lee Jae-myung's Democratic Party needs to be restored to the orthodox Democratic Party.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: In the midst of this, you mentioned earlier, but it's the largest organization in the world of loyalty competition. The Democratic Innovation Association has submitted a petition not guilty of 1.12 million petitions to the teachers' court. Will it affect you?

◇Jo Won-jin: At the time of President Park Geun Hye, 3.5 million people were personally signed off on impeachment and acquittal. It doesn't affect the whole country without the Internet.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It doesn't affect me. Okay. Again, the prosecution. Yesterday, CEO Lee Jae-myung was indicted without detention on charges of misappropriation of legal currency. Kim Hye-kyung was suspended from prosecution. Representative Lee Jae-myung said that he was in the middle of a mountain, but would there be any behind-the-scenes movement from the perspective of the Democratic Party? It's called "samchong samgim."

◇Jo Won-jin: The complex problem is something that can touch the people's emotions. The rest is illegal, but on the other hand, what and how did you use the corporate card in Gyeonggi-do is my tax, and all the parts will come out depending on how you used the tax and how you used it. For example, I bought fruit for tens of thousands of won every day, right? If these parts come out, will it be understood from the common sense of the Korean people? The Democratic Party of Korea continues to drive it like this with a corporate card worth 100,000 won, but if you look at the prosecution of Representative Lee Jae-myung, there is more than 100 million won. In that sense, this issue is highly likely to touch the people's emotional lines unlike other matters. It's related to approval ratings. Then, it's more likely to be isolated. This issue is

◆ Bae Seunghee: It's decided here

◇Jo Won-jin: If the approval rating falls due to the high possibility of isolation, CEO Lee Jae-myung can't stand it. So the issue of prosecution of this illegal use is likely to develop into a completely different situation for me than anything else. This is the kind of person I see.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: This trial can come out quickly because we've only charged this one.

◇ Cho Won-jin: You're all ready. I have all the slips, right? So if you have a slip, don't you have all the CCTVs? There's no way to do that, and if you investigate Bae about the contents of the public interest informant by an insider, that's right. This firestorm can spread to other places.

◆Bae Seung-Hee: Until now, team

◇Jo Won-jin: People generally think that we can even go to the slush fund issue. So I need to look at this legalization issue in a more different light than other cases. So here we go.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: We have different personalities and there will be a huge impact depending on the outcome of this trial. That's what you're talking about. If so, I don't know about the leadership of representative Lee Jae-myung until another trial, but the leadership is completely shaken by this trial.

◇ Cho Won-jin: If there are parts where the public is not that curious, but that they did this much, this is a deviation from public affairs. That's right. It's hard to use a regular corporate card and a tax corporate card as you want. Like that,

◆ Bae Seung-hee: They say that there's even a slush fund problem.

◇ Cho Won-jin: Wouldn't I have no choice but to go that far? If we investigate, all the cases of CEO Lee Jae-myung have been done by those involved? It's not the case of CEO Lee Jae-myung alone. Then all those involved are receiving prison sentences. That's right. Then the court sees Lee Jae-myung as the main culprit of the prison sentence. That's right. In view of such a case, the court can't easily move on to this, but the people involved have been able to endure it well so far, but if this is confirmed and the prison sentence falls, I think that your departure will be worse first.

◆Bae Seung-Hee: Regarding this, Representative Lee Jae-myung of the Democratic Party of Korea passed the Special Prosecutor's Act on the 14th. If we come to the vote again now, we were expecting a vote of departure from the people's power, but this vote of departure is unlikely. How do you see it?

◇ Cho Won-jin: The impeachment itself is not possible. Will it be a situation where we can break away from the power of the people now? Because there is no reason to protect Lee Jae-myung, but the special prosecution law against Kim Gun-hee would break the current atmosphere if the people's power was broken. I don't think CEO Han Dong-hoon or his close friends would want that either. Yes, in that situation, there are fewer leavers. Look at this

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Ithaca is less. I see. Lee Joon-seok, the New Party for People's Power Reform. Suddenly, President Yoon's involvement in the nomination was revealed, not revealed. Some say why are you revealing this now? with regard to Myung Taekyun

◇ Cho Won-jin: In the end, if Myung Tae-kyun is arrested and former lawmaker Kim Young-sun is arrested, lawyer Soyeon Kim will say forensics, and senior lawyer Lim has already talked about various things. It sure was. Inside, there are a lot of stories about CEO Lee Jun-seok in the text messages on the phone records of Myung Tae-kyun. It has no choice but to do it as a defense of disability. CEO Lee Jun-seok said, "By the way, when did CEO Lee Jun-seok help President Yoon Suk Yeol?"

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I know.

◇ Cho Won-jin: Why would you look down on me like that? I talked about it last time, but it's not much. From now on, there's nothing much. Rather than Yoon Suk Yeol President Kim Gun-hee's side, these people, including conservative presidential candidate Lee Joon-seok, are likely to go into a very embarrassing situation. It is highly likely that the contents of the inside will go that way.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I'll omit the name of presidential candidate Lee Jun-seok. Ose

◇Jo Won-jin: Ahn Cheol Soo Oh Se-gon and Hong Joon Pyo Ahn Cheol Soo are a little less, but the rest of us should take this opportunity to put some bubbles on the conservative presidential candidates. That's how you look at it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: They think it's related to the poll.

◇Jo Won-jin: Everyone tried to use Myung Tae-kyun in a relationship. That's the low opinion of politicians, but if you used it, you'd break up the relationship like that or kick it like that, and that's where Myung Tae-kyun started. I'm not saying that Myung Tae-kyun did a good job, but you shouldn't throw it away while cursing it so harshly when you use it and throw it away. View like this

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Lee Byung-tae's disclosure also affects even the conservative presidential candidate. From now on

◇Jo Won-jin: I've only talked to Yongsan before, but there's not much to come out now. That's right. So from now on, if you open up forensics in Myung Tae-kyun, there will be people who are in trouble if there are a lot of such stories in the trial records. I think so.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Let's see. Controversy continues over the bulletin board of presidential candidates' People's Power Party members. Rep. Kim Ki-hyun said, "You can reveal whether the comment was written by CEO Han Dong-hoon's family, but why don't you reveal it?" How do you look at the People's Power Bulletin Board?

◇Jo Won-jin: Our Republican Party opens up the bulletin board to the party, especially when the responsible party members come in and write. Then, if there is any illegality or problem in the transaction, you can open it. If you open all the people in charge, you can see who did it. It goes all the way to a police investigation. I don't think that's the way to go as a public hall. If I can organize within the party, I have to organize it, but it's very simple, but I don't think CEO Han Dong-hoon can do that. I don't think it's a good way to turn it over to the police where it can be done through such a party audit.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then CEO Han Dong-won can come out and reveal it in person

◇ Cho Won-jin: You can order it at Handong University.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Do I have to give directions?

◇Jo Won-jin: Let's do a party audit on this matter by instructing, and then there are many other things besides the opening transaction, right? You can see it within the party to the extent that your real name has not been disclosed once. I don't think that's illegal.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. I asked you a question earlier, but Kim Gun-hee, the Democratic Party of Korea leader Park Chan-dae of the Special Prosecutor Act, said, President Yoon's claim that the independent counsel was unconstitutional was Choi Soon-sil's change. How do you like it?

◇Jo Won-jin: Choi Soon-sil, you're still in jail even though we're talking about words, right? Isn't it time to release her? I told them why Choi Soon-sil is the only one who is still here when all the people involved have been released, and they misunderstood the stereotyped part. Actually, this is a completely different story and this is a completely different story, and the public's sentiment against Choi Soon-sil is bad, so I want to treat her like that, but impeachment or special prosecutor's question is probably difficult. With such a situation, it is time to change the Democratic Party's rental offensive. Until now, when the results came out on the 25th, the people got tired of it. And it's not powered. If it's not powered, the second trial results will come out in 7-8 months at the most, and various situations will happen, what effect is a powerless off-the-shelf struggle?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But right now at the Cho Kuk Innovation Party. It is said that 15 reasons for impeachment will be announced today. The Democratic Party seems to be drawing a line, how do you see this?

◇Jo Won-jin: The impeachment issue is that not only Representative Lee Jae-myung but also Representative Cho Kuk is on fire.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: The Supreme Court is

◇Jo Won-jin: We don't even have that much time because only the Supreme Court remains. So I'm going to say everything I can. How many people there are related to the Cho Kuk Innovation Party's executives who are all related to prison now, so would it have a big impact just because they do it? Representative Lee Jae-myung is talking about impeachment of the Bangtan National Assembly, but it doesn't have much impact just because representative Cho Kuk is talking about it. So here we go.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Even if we reject the independent counsel, there will be no significant impact. That's what you're talking about. Shin Ji-ho, the head of the Strategic Planning Department for People's Power, said, "There are six months left until the final meeting of Lee Jae-myung. But all of a sudden, he said, "It's a golden time and an opportunity to reform the ruling party."

◇Jo Won-jin: Are you Shin Ji-ho, head of the Strategic Planning Division? Vice-President Han Dong-won probably doesn't have much time.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: We don't have much time for one or two.

◇Jo Won-jin: According to cr, we have to start the primary from June next September. If we start the primary from June next year, Han Dong-hoon has six months left, and he probably wants to talk about it. Han Dong-won has only six months left, but he has to show something, but Golden Time is golden time for both sides. Yoon Suk Yeol President Yongsan should not miss this time, but Chairman Han Dong-hoon should also not miss this time.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: So CEO Han Dong-woo was at an angle with Yongsan, but now he is turning his eyes back to people's livelihood. What do you think of this move?

◇Jo Won-jin: I don't think I can last a few days

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I can't go for a few days.

◇ Cho Won-jin: It's an expression that you're probably going to hit again, but what's the point of Han Dong-hoon's existence if you forgive him with and don't set an angle? However, that doesn't help, so if you meet with people who have been in politics for a long time, experience, and the right people, you can find a way to do it, but CEO Han Dong-hoon should reform the order that I keep telling them to organize their surroundings. You need to renovate your surroundings yourself. I see. I see.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. I opened them all today. So far, we have been with our Republican Party leader Cho Won-jin. Thank you.