Fatherland, the chances of your innocence are slim.No revocation and return in 15 minutes.

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: November 22, 2024 (Friday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Dialogue: Lawyer Choi Jin-nyeong, Professor Bae Jong-ho of Seha University

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Choi Jin-nyeong
- Small Detective Lee Jae-myung missed the president while craving beef
- Lee Jae-myung, now his life is over.'Use of corporate credit card' Tail cutting
- Hong Joon Pyo, it seems that there is no distinction between construction..It was the Democratic Party of Korea - Controversy over the ruling party's bulletin board? Complaint-There can be no punishment without accusation

Bae Jong-ho
- Hong Joon Pyo also points out prosecution for 'use of corporate cars'... The day will come when the 檢 will be judged
- Yoon, there are parts where he made a scapegoat for his country to realize the presidential election
- Fatherland is guilty, but it seems that there is a possibility of a 'targeted investigation'
- Lee Jae-myung's perjury teacher first trial, the possibility of a reversal cannot be ruled out.
◇ Choi Jin-nyeong: I'll just go head to head, not do anything terminal. This week's losers are Lee Jae-myung and his country. I think I know very well that Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the Democratic Party, is the loser. It was last Friday this afternoon. He was sentenced to one year in prison and suspended for two years due to the public announcement of false information under the Public Official Election Act, and immediately appealed. Just before I came here, I supported Lee Jae-myung in Seocho-dong, near our office, and the judiciary died. I was doing this, but when I passed by earlier, there were few people holding a microphone in front of me. I don't know. I don't know how much we'll get together in the city tomorrow, but I want to tell you that the Democratic Party of Korea systematically ordered not to wear blue clothes just in case, as if the Democratic Party was directly involved in it. Just today, the prosecution said that it was not guilty of some of the innocence, just because it did not know the former deputy director Kim Moon-ki, who died before Kim Moon-ki, but for the reason that it did not know about some of the innocence, there was no traffic between them, and it did not know that they were going back and forth, including playing golf. Nevertheless, the prosecution has now appealed for some new judgment on the fact that some of the innocence should be judged. I think we will have to fight the law fiercely at the Seoul High Court in the future. And in the case of last week, I tried to take off the lump and put it on more. It's called a cattle detective room. I missed the president because I was craving beef. About 165.5 million won was embezzled in connection with the misappropriation of corporate cards in Gyeonggi-do Province, so the court is now indicted on trial in the Suwon District Court. I was surprised. Over the past few years, the corporate card is different from the corporate card. It can be considered that it is not illegal to some extent because the pocket money is pocket money, but the money is a so-called blood tax card made up of taxpayers' money that Gyeonggi residents sweated out. I've never seen a person with a heart that's like saying, "Why do you blame me for eating with it after doing it?" As you know, in the case of the Democratic Party of Korea, union members have a history of protesting in front of the university because they bought a 1,500 won kimbap with a corporate card for Professor Kang Kyu-young, who was a KBS director during the last administration. Isn't the public angry at the fact that I wrote it like this hundreds of times, but I didn't do it and my subordinates did it? Therefore, I would like to evaluate that the primary victim this week is Lee Jae-myung, and because of that, I am now doing everything.

◆ Sin-ryul: I just want to know. You just come out with idioms.

■ Bae Jong-ho: The terminology is a little shallow. Don't you give me a warning that I got a hair on my heart?

◆ Shin Yul: I don't say anything because it's a metaphor, but

■ Bae Jong-ho: When your heart is out, it's a pretty vulgar expression. Then keep talking about your heart breaking. Then you'll be robbed of your conscience. Then I'll think of it as a heart hair level, so do you accept Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo as a master prosecutor?

◇ Choi Jin-nyeong: He was a master swordsman.

■ Bae Jong-ho: But what did Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo say about Lee Jae-myung's prosecution with the corporate car? In a word, this is a disgraceful dust-off investigation, and he's asking if he should have prosecuted something like this. And we're only doing politics to kill each other, but please don't do that anymore. And he's the mayor of Daegu right now, and in the case of this official car, he said, "It's a little unclear about public affairs and private use. How can I prove it?" He said something very harsh, but I think you should keep in mind. Most importantly, the prosecution has brought up what the police have already cleared him of charges in this regard and is now prosecuting him. Then, as the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo said, CEO Lee Jae-myung was written by a person below him and he didn't know, but I'm curious about how to prove this. And most importantly, shouldn't the exercise of the prosecution's power be fair? Regarding the law, Kim Hye-kyung is the wife of Lee Jae-myung. He's a spouse. In fact, it's 104,000 won, but it's about 50,000 won to buy what he ate to others except for his performance. He prosecuted 139 times with this and fined him 1.5 million won. According to the first trial, whether it is right to deprive him of the right to run for election and whether it is right to indict representative Lee Jae-myung, so what is he saying about this? The Democratic Party of Korea is now claiming that it is a mean political repression. But personally, if it's according to lawyer Choi's terminology, the prosecution has too many hair on its heart.

◆ Sin-ryul: So today, there are a lot of anatomical words coming out. You can understand that.

■ Bae Jong-ho: The day will come when the prosecution will be judged.

◇ Choi Jin-nyeong: I think the prosecution is abusing its power. How can you put a moratorium on prosecution when you don't even confess and catch him? Postponement of prosecution. Why are you postponing prosecution? Who was the person who shared it with and had a small investigation? Rather, Kim Hye-kyung should also be prosecuted. Why, nevertheless, I think it is rather an abuse of the prosecution's power not to suspend prosecution?

◆ Shin Yul: Question, why did the representative of the country go in?

◇ Let's do this. I didn't know that the Hong Joon Pyo market was a person who couldn't distinguish construction. In the future, as I said now, I was saying that it was rather the Democratic Party that disgraced me, and I prosecuted it. Why is it not a disgrace? I even paid for the fruits that CEO Lee Jae-myung's parents put on the table with their corporate credit cards. How happy must the ancestors of that part have been? Aren't you criticizing that? Now, I won't talk about this anymore.

■ Bae Jong-ho: We have to see if he's guilty or not.

◇ Choi Jin-nyeong: I looked for the representative of the country. I saw earlier today that there are only a few days left until the representative of the country.

■ Bae Jong-ho: December 12th.

◇ Choi Jin-nyeong: December 12th. Time is fun. The time to sentence is 11:45. It's lunch time for the justices at 11:45 p.m. If the employees say they will finish the sentence in 15 minutes because they have to go to eat at lunchtime, the legal professionals are just my brain's official statement, but I wondered if I should destroy it and repatriate it in 15 minutes, and if I should acquit myself in the first and second trials and send it back to the high court. In addition, in my memory, when I already convicted my country in the second trial and did not arrest him in court, there was always a saying that it was my country. People said that the term "country-like" is extremely hypocritical and has no shame at all. What did the prosecution say about the motherland when it demanded a two-year fine of 12 million won and a fine of 6 million won? The defendants have not reflected on themselves until now and still pretend to be victims. In the process of identifying the suspicions surrounding the defendants, he said, "The extreme social confusion, social division, and consumptive confrontation that occurred in the process of identifying the allegations surrounding the defendants continues, and the victims are the people, not the defendants." In that sense, I think one of the victims this week is the representative of the Chogukdang.

◆ Shin-ryul: So what lawyer Choi's reasoning is that in order to be innocent or repatriated, the explanation must be long, but there may be situations in which there is no need to explain enough in time.

■ Bae Jong-ho: But I think you're a little impatient because I think it's a little hasty to predict that it will start at 11:45 and end at 12. Of course, I think that's possible. But I'm telling you that it's a little hasty to infer the outcome of the trial with this because this may not be the case. It is true that many people are disappointed with the actions of representative Cho Kuk. I was disappointed, too. And it's also true that this homeland incident has dealt a severe blow to the regime in Moon Jae In. In addition, the case also had some influence on the part where the regime was transferred.

◆ Synthesis: The problem of the process is there

■ Bae Jong-ho: That's right. And I want to make it clear that President Yoon Suk Yeol emerged as an embodiment of fairness and common sense and eventually took the presidency, but on the other hand, President Yoon Suk Yeol used his country as a scapegoat to realize his presidency. Also, the principle of proportionality is very important in relation to it. In using the right to punish the country, it completely abandoned the family of the motherland. My wife went to prison, and my country has been in prison for two years from the first trial to the second trial, and now the Supreme Court is almost certain to be guilty, and my children are all canceled from graduate school admission. I think there is a problem with that.

◆ Shin-ryul: So Professor Bae's words are sinful, but it's so called sinful, but it's clear that it's too much to do that to the whole family.

■ Bae Jong-ho: It means that there is definitely a targeted investigation part. I didn't do anything wrong, I did something wrong with the dust from the dust. But I'd like to tell you that there are some parts that have been dusted by targeting them. But now this is a process that's been passed, and eventually, on December 12th, there was a military counterargument,

◆ Synthesis: 12th situation

■ Bae Jong-ho: On the 12th, it remains to be seen what the conclusion of Seoul's thoughts will be, but there is a possibility that it will be destroyed and returned. That's because of two cases. The prosecution has also appealed some of the innocence. If it turns into guilt, it's destroyed and returned. However, if you are partially innocent of guilt, it will be destroyed and returned to your country. If it doesn't, if it's now a final ruling, it's now an arrest. If that happens, the current representative of the country will lose his right to run for election. Looking at it, it's quite heavy. It's been 5 years since the end of your sentence. So, if you receive two years in prison, you will be deprived of your right to run for two years plus five years, so you can't run for the presidential election because you can't run for seven years now. And in the case of the Party of Innovation and Fatherland now, it becomes a party without fatherland. So, in this situation where identity is shaken and presence is shaken, the impact on the whole country will be significant. We have to watch the results again.

◇ Choi Jin-nyeong: I'll tell you briefly. In the Democratic Party of Korea, the epitome of state affairs manipulation is Cho Kuk, who mediates in the election of state affairs manipulation while talking about the Kim Gun-hee independent counsel law. Among the charges being filed now, the so-called Yoo Jae-soo prosecutor's cover-up case is obstructing the exercise of his right to abuse his authority, and the Moon Jae In's best friend, Ulsan City, is also accused of interfering in the election. How could you destroy a democracy that goes any further than that and ignore it in a way? Then, after being indicted in December 2019, he was sentenced to the second trial five years later, and 11 months later, would a case that could not be confirmed for almost six years not be received such special treatment if he were not the real prince of the Moon Jae In? Rather, it is inevitable to say that it is not a delayed justice, but a delayed justice, which is why if the appeal is dismissed at 11:45 on December 12th, it should be executed right now. Then what's the execution? It's arrest. Originally, they were supposed to come to court and ask to bring them, but when the Supreme Court sentenced them, they do not summon them. Therefore, if the appeal is dismissed now, the Ministry of Justice will contact you and schedule the day. I'll set a date, and if that happens, it's probably December 12th, so I think there's a high possibility that I'll be imprisoned in the Seoul Detention Center as early as December 13th or 14th. I'm probably predicting that.

◆ Shin Yul: Then you have to tell us the winner first. Professor Bae

■ Bae Jong-ho: Yes, I chose the People's Power Party bulletin board debate. This debate is very serious right now. Because CEO Han Dong-hoon himself is suspected of involvement and his family is suspected of involvement. And all the names such as father-in-law and mother-in-law come out. But now there are about 1,100 cases. However, I can't erase the impression that CEO Han Dong-hoon is being pushed back. Because when I hear Han Dong-hoon, I immediately file a complaint. However, regarding this, we have been avoiding or silent for about two weeks now, so I think there's something about it, but the police's investigation has begun. Chin-yoon continues to demand a party audit, but he's faltering. However, in the case of former Supreme Court member Jang Ye-chan, he is attacking, saying it is a Druking case, but if CEO Han Dong-hoon or his family is directly involved, it will be a serious blow to his morality. And if the comment unit team is operated, then this can turn into a legal issue quite seriously like the second Druking case, so this is an inference so far if it is exposed. I chose this as a result of the doubt that Han Dong-hoon will be able to maintain his leadership and that he will be able to continue running as a presidential candidate because he is currently the most influential presidential candidate.

◆ Shin Yul: By the way, lawyer Choi, is there a case that is illegal? Because I asked yesterday, and when two lawyers came out yesterday, I asked them, and they said there are few cases that are illegal. And now using macros is illegal

◇ Choi Jin-nyeong: I was actually going to talk about that. In a word, it's like we're talking about the comment unit. Where is it? Why did Druking get caught? If there's a person, they don't get caught. It uses a manipulation program macro program called King Crab. That's why I was charged with obstructing the business of a computer disorder and was severely punished. After that, wasn't Gyeongsangnam-do Governor Kim Kyung-soo arrested? He wrapped his legs, but this is not the case. In the case of a party bulletin board, it is necessary to admit it, and it is not very likely that it will be a computer obstruction because there are not many lists of former top prices made by Jang Ye-chan. Instead, there is some question about whether this will be defamatory or not, but even in defamation, it is an anti-intentional or pro-accusation crime, so if you don't file a complaint, you can't be punished.

◆ Sin-ryul: If you swear at the president on the anonymous bulletin board, so defamation is a crime, you have to seriously think about our country's system.

■ Bae Jong-ho: No, the bungee is...

◇ Choi Jin-nyeong: Let me tell you something. So, it's kind of weird to side with anyone on that part, but isn't CEO Han Dong-hoon talking about that right now? We should focus some firepower on the Democratic Party of Korea in the process of realizing Lee Jae-myung's judicial risk from defensive to offensive, but if we do it wrong, the issue itself will become a problem within the party and will be used to water down any judicial risk of Lee Jae-myung, the representative who has to be careful about that. That's not to say I won't do it. Rather, since they filed a complaint, didn't they say that they would confirm the relationship reliably at the police stage and at the investigation stage? That's why you can do it at that level. Isn't the Democratic Party trying to make a big difference by clapping?

■ Bae Jong-ho: The serious issue has nothing to do with the Democratic Party. As I said earlier, morality is quite serious because Chin-yoon, the power of the people, is raising the issue. I think the legal profession is a bit controversial, too. What is that? You have to verify it with your real name. Then, one person left a comment with everyone else's personal information. If that's the problem and there's a comment team at all, I can't guarantee that this has nothing to do with the Personal Information Protection Act or obstruction of business.

◆ Shin Yul: Okay.

◇ Choi Jin-nyeong: The case of Lee Jae-myung, CEO of the Seoul Central District Court, will be next Monday.

◆ Shin Yul: It's not fear, it's earthly law.

◇ Choi Jin-nyeong: If you predict a one-year minimum prison sentence and hit him a little hard, I think a year and a half in prison would be possible. However, I think there is a high possibility that they will not be arrested in court. In the case where the warrant has already been dismissed in practice, there is controversy over whether the arrest agreement can be immediately arrested even if the National Assembly agrees to it, and I think most legal professionals predict guilt on the matter, as it was already said in September that there was a criminal explanation for this part. Nevertheless, not being restrained will give you another chance, won't it? In my view, the Seoul Central District Court is the winner of the match, with the intention that he will be sentenced to one year in prison but will not be arrested in court.

◆ Sin Yul: I'll have to look at that.

■ Bae Jong-ho: Do I have to speak briefly, too? 10 seconds. First of all, I was very optimistic about the Public Official Election Act, but a heavy sentence was imposed. Perjury teachers are also currently seeing a slightly negative outlook, excluding the possibility of a reversal

◆ Sin-ryul: Of course.

■ Bae Jong-ho: The authenticity of the remarks after saying that it is difficult to do it is intentional.
◆ Shin Yul: Okay. Let's stop here today. Thank you.

◇ Choi Jin-nyeong, ■ Bae Jong-ho: Thank you.

◆ Shin Yul: So far, we have been with lawyer Choi Jin-nyeong and two professors, Bae Jong-ho of Sehan University.