Kim Doo-kwan said, "Democratic Party of Korea is now perfect with Lee Jae-myung at the center."

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: November 28, 2024 (Thursday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Talk: Kim Doo-kwan, former lawmaker of the Democratic Party of Korea

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- The 'political extreme confrontation' without constitutional amendment is repeated
- Constitution, it is time to change clothes to suit the times
- Constitution shortening the term of office- Constitutional amendment-Lee Jae-myung trial, irrelevant
- Han Dong-hoon, unable to get out of 'the prosecutor's mind'
- The ruling party leader talks too much to the judicial trial
- The Democratic Party of Korea, currently focusing on Lee Jae-myung, to organize perfectly
◆ Shin Yul: Shin Yul's news head-to-head match begins part 2. Kim Doo-kwan, a former lawmaker of the Democratic Party of Korea, will meet in the second part of the face-to-face interview. I'm on the phone right now. How are you?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: Yes, nice to meet you. It's former lawmaker Kim Doo-kwan.

◆ Shin Yul: How have you been? In the meantime

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: I lost the general election in April and ran as a candidate for the party leader in August. After that, I met various people from all walks of life, listened to various pending issues, met some people I hadn't met before and greeted them. Since I'm not a member of the National Assembly, I met a lot of people freely.

◆ Shin Yul: I heard that Representative Kim started a protest in front of the presidential office in Yongsan, insisting on a constitutional amendment to shorten his term, are you still doing it?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: We had a two-hour protest every Monday afternoon. It was symbolically held in front of the presidential office in Yongsan, and from next week, it will be held on the Gwanghwamun side, a space where many citizens can join.

◆ Sin Yul: On the Gwanghwamun side. But don't you have a basic reason why you're protesting like that?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: The people are very worried as the ruling and opposition parties are engaged in a lot of political strife and extreme confrontations. In particular, the people who are disappointed with the president's administration in Yoon Suk Yeol are now calling for impeachment and resignation. I think the general sentiment of the people is that. However, I was traumatized by the impeachment of President Park Geun Hye, and 60 days after the impeachment of the last candlelight civil revolution, a new government was established, but there were many systems and systems in the 6th Republic following the 87th system, but didn't we lose the opportunity to fix it and just change the government? So, I think it's been about 37 years since the 1987 Constitution of the 6th Republic and our society has changed a lot, so it fits various principles of state management to dress up for the new era. So I think that the Constitution itself represents the identity of a country and that it is the Constitution that stipulates national norms in the principle of state operation. So anyway, the winner-take-all and the imperial five-year single term system is now in charge of state affairs by the 8th president of Yoon Suk Yeol. I don't think it fits our time. Therefore, it is important to step down from impeachment, but even if that happens, I think it is right for our national development to revise the principle of operation for 50 years to 100 years through the revision of the Constitution, a new principle of state operation, so companies that make a big decision to shorten the term by one year and strengthen basic rights, including a four-year two-term system, are the most win-win path in this era. I started with the idea that it is good for President Yoon, good for the people, and good for the future of the country.

◆ Shin Yul: Then do you think there's a possibility that President Yoon will accept such a proposal?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: I don't think it's easy, but if you don't take a drastic look at the current stance of President Yoon's state administration, don't you think the Democratic opposition party, which is in control of parliament, will continue to clash with the overall state administration, and about eight out of ten Koreans actually disagree with President Yoon's state administration? Also, I know that about 60% of the public opinion that impeachment should be made. Then, I think that President Yoon will do various reforms for the remaining two and a half years and two and a half years, but he cannot run the state administration because he has lost power at all, but all experts and politicians think so. So, I think that's what President Yoon decides to do in a realistic way because there is such trauma after the impeachment of President Park Geun Hye, and impeachment is not easy just because the people demand it so strongly.

◆ Shin Yul: Eight out of ten people and more than six people mentioned something similar to the poll, but you didn't mention the specific poll, so I would like to say that we have no choice but to dismiss it as a personal opinion. No, but Han Dong-hoon, the representative of the People's Power, is trying to stop the constitution before Lee Jae-myung's conviction on serious criminal charges regarding the constitutional amendment to shorten his term of office is confirmed. What do you think of this point?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: You may be able to point that out because you are the leader of the ruling party, but it sounds a little sophisticated to me. I think it has nothing to do with the constitutional amendment to shorten the term and the trial of Lee Jae-myung. I don't know if it's because CEO Han Dong-hoon has been in the prosecution for a long time, and not long ago, he was the justice minister and became the leader of the ruling party.I think that all the judgments and words are still in the prosecution or prosecutor's mind. And I think that the ruling party leader is in a position to cooperate to lead the state administration, and it is not appropriate for me to make public comments about judicial trials too often.

◆ [Voiceover] And now it's December 10th. Kim Gun-hee's re-decision on the Special Prosecutor Act is now on December 10, what do you think? What do you think will happen this time?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: In fact, if the people demand it so much and the presidential office in Yongsan does not rob Kim Gun-hee, the power of state affairs will not be applied at all, so I think it is a principle to at least accept a special prosecutor to resolve such suspicions. Since the ruling and opposition parties are sharply confronting each other now, 108 lawmakers from the People's Power probably have public sentiment on the floor, right? If the presidential office is in the air, it's not that you don't know the public sentiment, but I don't think I'll leave in 108 minutes because of the thought that if I lose the power game, it's over and the government will be taken away. However, I think it is in line with the public sentiment to get Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel because representative Han Dong-hoon persuaded President Yoon Suk Yeol well to resolve the suspicions through an independent counsel, but the government and the ruling party don't seem to think so.

◆ Shin Yul: Isn't there a lot of reasoning that the relationship between Representative Han Dong-hoon and President Yoon Suk Yeol is not smooth? But do you think it'll convince you?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: Many experts do that now, and the attitude of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol during the last meeting alone shows that there is a big gap between the ruling party and the president in charge of state affairs. Recently, Yeouido has cracked irreversibly, but the ruling party's inability to keep pace with the president's office is not helpful to the operation of the state at all, so it would be important for the presidential office to embrace it well if the ruling party leader conveys public sentiment, but it seems to be quite sensible.

◆ Shin Yul: But CEO Han Dong-hoon said that. We need to consider the special counsel for Mrs. Kim. How do you interpret this?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: I just heard it this afternoon. I heard it this afternoon, and it's a big step forward. I don't know if it's because it's coordinated with the presidential office or if representative Han Dong-hoon decided that it's the only way to overcome the public sentiment or the situation.It seems that the ruling party has tried to be very forward-looking and to meet the public sentiment. I think it's

◆ Shin Yul: CEO Han Dong-hoon said, "This is a report right now. But CEO Han Dong-hoon seemed to have drawn the line clearly, saying, "I didn't say this."

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: Is that so? Is it hitting and falling? Anyway, I think it's better to accept the public sentiment.

◆ Shin-ryul: It's not that it's hit and run, but it could have been misreported, but the environment in which this and these stories can be inferred that it may have been misreported is the problem of the People's Power Party bulletin board, anonymous bulletin board, and this problem is actually continuously noisy. I think that's why various theories are coming out now. What do you think about this?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: I'm not a political analyst, but it essentially looks like a political battle between President Yoon Suk Yeol and Representative Han Dong-hoon. One thing is clear: I think that if representative Han Dong-hoon is pushed back in this fight, the political blow will be too great. I think there is a future only when representative Han Dong-hoon fights with President Yoon and clearly conveys public sentiment. In the past, former President Park Geun Hye Park Geun Hye became president because he was responsible for state affairs at that time as an opposition party within the party and accurately set the angle as President Lee Myung Bak. I think Han will be able to establish himself as the next presidential candidate if he participates in the opinion of Special Counsel Kim Gun-hee and overcomes those processes.

◆ Sin-ryul: So you're saying that you can't be pushed back in any way, right?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: There are some aspects that should not be pushed back, and the party is better at reading the public sentiment, so there is no president here, right? In fact, the people warned the ruling and opposition parties to cooperate in the last general election, so if President Yoon accurately accepts such public sentiment, the people do not agree on the current state administration. In fact, I think it would be great for the future of President Yoon or the future of the Republic of Korea, but I recently saw the news that lawyer Lee Seok-yeon was the head of the legislation department during the Lee Myung Bak presidency. He made a similar claim to me. Representative Lee Jae-myung spoke today after shortening his term, and he said that retaliation must be stopped because retaliation will lead to another retaliation, and he urged President Yoon, but lawyer Lee Seok-yeon is a person who speaks a lot in the conservative camp, so it sounded very meaningful for him to say that.

◆ Shin Yul: Representative Kim Doo-kwan mentioned the composition of the national cabinet, but isn't he saying that he will reform President Yoon's personnel? But in the process of personnel reform, do you think there is a possibility of forming a national cabinet?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: It's not going to be easy. In fact, in order to form a national cabinet, the Democratic Party of Korea is now the leader of the opposition party anyway, but it has to be held with representative Lee Jae-myung. Isn't there some resentment at the first summit? In my opinion, there seems to be some distrust in the way CEO Lee Jae-myung organized various things and read it for 10 minutes or so. It's impossible to cooperate because you don't think of it as a partner, but if this level of public sentiment leaves, shouldn't we really form a national cabinet to overcome this crisis? When the ruling and opposition parties do not make any concessions, they need political power. How hard are people's livelihoods right now? And the Russian war is going on for a long time, and North Korea has reportedly sent troops to Russia, and in such a severe situation, it is time for the ruling and opposition parties to put their heads together for the future of the people's country, and since they are just saying the right answer to each other, our people are criticizing the ruling and opposition parties. I'm sure the professor will hear it a lot, but isn't it enough to ask if this is me? It doesn't make sense to turn a blind eye to this situation, and the first Prime Minister Han Deok-soo has offered his gratitude and is probably preparing a new sculpture in Yongsan. At times like this, he will prepare for Korea and open a new republic by the New Year's press conference in January. The people will not be able to endure until two and a half years. I've run out of patience, so I'd like to sincerely recommend you to do it. At times like this, if you announce the program to open a new republic, please present a roadmap to the Korean people, even if they are struggling, but if they don't present anything new to anyone and go two and a half years in the way of the state administration, public sentiment will explode. How can it help the future of Korea for the people? In that sense, I'd like to sincerely ask for it.

◆ Sin-ryul: Would the Democratic Party accept such a proposal if they said they would do a national cabinet?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: Even if it's not that pledge now, the prime minister needs to be ratified by the National Assembly, but isn't the case 192 seats? In fact, even if it is not a national cabinet, considering the prime minister in Yongsan will be considered whether it will be fully ratified after a confirmation hearing at the National Assembly when Lee is recommended. In that sense, there will probably be sufficient consultation with the presidential office, and if it is opened in such a difficult situation, it will be necessary to open it in such a way that the next person in charge of state affairs will be elected under the condition that conservatives and progressives are more equal. If we go with this basis of state affairs, we leave it to the people's power for five years, not because we did a good job, so would our people choose a candidate for the people's power? If the Korean people are not stupid, the government will be replaced, and people with decorations on the power of the people will not agree on the change of government, but I don't know if the ruling and opposition parties will form a grand compromise and cooperate and do this later or two years later. If conservatives and progressives compete to some extent at that time, and run the state administration in the current way, can the state administration be extended toward the power of the people? I don't think I can extend it. Because our people are not stupid.

◆ Shin Yul: I have a little question about Lee Jae-myung's trial, but the perjury teacher was acquitted in the first trial. Instead, you were convicted of violating the Public Official Election Act, how do you view this situation?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: Shouldn't we respect judgment like this? I think the judiciary's judgment is not subject to evaluation, but then you can accept it. I personally think that legal is also a law. Isn't it all members of Congress who made the law? I think it's against the odds to make a law on your own and give the power of the judiciary and deny the judiciary's judgment. If the law goes wrong, you can revise it. The ruling and opposition parties interpret the judiciary's judgment more favorably if it is in their favor, and vice versa. I personally think that it is not a good attitude to interpret politically.

◆ Is it today? I understand that the amendment to the Public Official Election Act was proposed by a Democratic Party member. So, we will abolish the crime of spreading false information, abolish the provision of spreading false information, and raise the standard for deprivation of non-election rights from 1 million won to 10 million won. Then how do you judge this? Do you think you need it?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: Maybe I'm a person who did politics on the field, so I think I need it. As far as I know, the National Assembly member Park Hee-seung, the former head of Anyang Court, proposed to the Gurye district of Sunchang Imsil, Namwon. I've been preparing for it for about a year, but strangely, when the first plan for Lee Jae-myung's violation of the Public Official Election Act came out, the discussion became known, so it became a shoe strap man reform in the Korean melon field. I don't think it's right for me to leave it to the judiciary when it becomes a little problem with the Public Official Election Act, and the essence of the Public Official Election Act is that people talk or talk freely and eat money. In that sense, when lawmakers meet a lot of voters and talk a lot, they say something that is a little untrue. So, I can't judge whether it's right to do that in terms of the fact that politics is too much in Korea right now, but it's not desirable to instigate in a fraudulent way or respond to things like this, but it's right to release lawmakers and candidates for public office more freely, so I can't judge whether it's right to do that much.It is basically desirable to revise it more. Regardless of the representative Lee Jae-myung's trial, I understand that.

◆ Shin Yul: There is a movement to strengthen leadership in the party because Lee Jae-myung was found guilty of one, but not guilty of one. So the screaming world will be even less established. Do you agree with this story?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: There are very few screams in the party right now. Most of them said that the expression that their real names were completely in sync with the party was true. And now, our party members and residents outside who consider our party more friendly also suppress opposition political opponents with 0.73 percent. Since the prosecution recognizes this by mobilizing all of the prosecution's power, everyone now insists on uniting with Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the party, to overcome the crisis. There is not much reason to make another voice fly, so you can understand that we are united now.

◆ Sin-ryul: So you mean that there's very little screaming, right?

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: If you look at the results of the last national convention, I won't argue that it's actually the completion of the one-pole system.Ma has been perfectly organized around representative Lee Jae-myung. If you go up to the root a little bit, you were attacked by non-mainstreamers when you were the leader of the Moon Jae In Party. At that time, the era of party sovereignty opened by joining 150,000 or 200,000 people because they wanted to protect the representative of Moon Jae In. However, if the trend is slightly twisted, a small number of strong party members will take over. Anyway, I am a little worried because some dysfunctions appeared in this way in the era of party sovereignty, and only about 400,000 out of 1.25 million participated in the convention at the last convention.

◆ Shin Yul: Okay. There are few screams within the party. Thank you for talking today.

◇ Kim Doo-kwan: Yes, thank you.

◆ Shin Yul: I was Kim Doo-kwan of the Democratic Party of Korea.