Cho Eung-cheon "Managing the bulletin board of 與 members in Yongsan? Why?"

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: November 28, 2024 (Thursday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Dialogue: Cho Eung-cheon, General Special Adviser to the New Reform Party

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- New Reform Party cooperates with Coporal Chae's parliamentary investigation...Should we cooperate with the help of finding out the truth
- Is it a matter of legal consideration for the 與 Party bulletin board? I'm free
- Yongsan, why should I manage the bulletin board of the ruling party member..Questions raised
- Han Dong-hoon should shake it off before being tied to the controversy over the party's bulletin board
- Is the "Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act" in South Korea considered controversy? Very inappropriate
- Lee Jae-myung 'perjury teacher' is not expected to be innocent in the first trial.Expect changes in the higher court
-Daejang-dong-Baekhyun-dong case, fortunately after the first trial before the next presidential election
- Lee Hwa-young trial, there is no possibility of innocence.It seems to be delayed due to the supplementation of the ruling
- The Democratic Party of Korea, which has overused impeachment, will eventually become poisonous.Hard-line supporters are just watching the faces of the ∀ {尹}- It's not the Democratic Party or Lee Jae-myung that can fill the leadership gap in the 尹.
◆ Shin Yul: Shin Yul's news head-to-head match begins part 4. I am Cho Eung-cheon, the general special advisor of the Reform New Party, who will meet in the front interview of the fourth part. You've been waiting for a month, right? You're in the studio right now. Please come in.

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: Yes, hello.

◆ Shin Yul: Oh, by the way, the New Reform Party seems to have expressed its intention to participate in the parliamentary investigation into the case of the Coporal Chae's death.

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: Of course. Sure. It's so natural, but during the parliamentary investigation of the Itaewon disaster, the Democratic Party took one of its own share and gave it to lawmaker Yong Hye-in of the Basic Income Party at that time. I came in consideration of the minority party, but it has been a practice so far that parliamentary investigations have been conducted by agreement between the ruling and opposition parties, and government departments move only when they are agreed by the ruling and opposition parties. I'm cooperating with you. But now that I see it, the ruling party is still actively participating. It's not like this. I'll leave it up to the floor leadership today to decide whether to participate or not. I think that's how they agreed, but I think this is a little inappropriate, because CEO Han himself promised a few days ago that he would revise the National Compensation Act so that uniformed officials who sacrificed for the country would be treated properly when his late private Hong Jeong-ki's mother visited him. Isn't it a Coporal Chae? In any case, the suspicion has not yet been resolved and the bereaved families are still saying this is not the case, but we think we should cooperate if it helps to get to the bottom of it.

◆ Shin Yul: That's right. In fact, what the bereaved families understand should be the most important criterion. I actually died in the line of duty for the country, but I only talk about this on the Internet these days.
◇ Cho Eung-cheon: You're talking about it right?

◆ Sinryul: Party bulletin board. They say it's called a pull. How are you watching this?

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: I actually don't want to say either. Is this going to take three weeks?

◆ Shin Yul: Since you were a prosecutor, is there an illegal matter here?

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: If a third party steals the name of a representative's family and he or she

◆ Sin-ryul: Then it's a name theft.

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: Then there's something that's going to be a bit of a business problem now. You used a macro instead of that, but it's not a matter of using a macro. I heard I posted 2 to 3 a day, but I have to go up by several thousand. So, if you stole or borrowed someone else's name, that's something to be considered criminally, but this is not a legal issue and I think it's very free. The power of the people is high at home and abroad, and a big ship called the Republic of Korea is now leaning. I'm going to do this for 3 weeks. It was called Tajinyo in 2010. I dragged it out for two years. There's a cafe, so I'm going to ride it. I'm going to go to Tajinyo. I don't understand, but of course, I understand Han. Isn't there an intention to use this as an excuse to go to his Kim Ok-gyun project? First of all, if you look at those who participated in the war, lawmakers Kim Eun-hye, Kang Seung-gyu, and Yongsan senior-level officials are now competing. What's curious about me is that there was an error at that stage and how did I know that if I put my name in it, it would all be searched? Moreover, Han's mother followed her father in, so I could barely find her name. I can't find the mother-in-law's name on the Internet no matter how much I look for it, but how did I know the mother-in-law's name and search for it? What's more, the name of the mother-in-law, which is not even open, is that Kang Ki-hoon, a senior administrator, was in charge of managing the party's bulletin board in Yongsan. I think I saw such news a few days ago, but why should I manage the bulletin board of the ruling party in Yongsan? I don't know what you're talking about. I think you know a lot more about the inside of the party than I do. So, this is part of the Kim Ok-gyun project. I told him to get caught, so he just cringed and said, "This is a family." I think he's dragging on the work for three weeks. As a result, no matter how right Han says and continues his people's livelihood, he can't produce and drag issues as the ruling party leader because it's absorbed like a black hole. Whether it's porridge or rice, you have to shake it off now.

◆ Shin Yul: But CEO Han Dong-hoon also mentioned the Kim Ok-gyun project, but this controversy seems to be an organized movement in Yongsan. I think it's been reported to have made this kind of reference, how do you agree?

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: No, you can suspect that. But the source of this is not clear. CEO Han Dong-hoon didn't talk about it himself, so he could talk about it to his own aides, but he could even consider special prosecutor Kim. It's very inappropriate to say that you've even said this. This is because if the special prosecutor leaves when the special prosecutor re-vote is passed, Han Dong-hoon or his close circle will be the main culprit for the destruction of the passport. So, in my view, why don't bees shoot beehives when it's really an emergency? But if you shoot this bee sting, you die. You die, too. So motivation, there's room for it. But is it worth it to shoot beehives with party bulletin boards?

◆ Shin-yul: But of course, Han Dong-hoon made it clear that he didn't say it himself, but the argument that Kang Ki-hoon is a party member bulletin board practitioner was made by Rep. Cheon Ha-ram, and there is no basis for this, so we can't know this. But anyway, the controversy over the party bulletin board right now is a conflict between pro-Yoon and pro-Yoon, but this is ultimately a conflict between pro-Yoon and pro-Yoon. Will there be some leavers?

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: With this, as I said before, it's hard to use it carelessly because it's like this bee sting. If you use it, the Special Prosecutor Han Dong-hoon Act is now proposed by Rep. Park Eun-jung. If it comes back,

◆ Shinryul: The exchange is

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: If the president just announces it, there's no need for a re-decision.

◆ Shin Yul: That's right. The problem with Myung Tae-kyun is, I looked it up and found that it was the first time yesterday that we raided the central headquarters of the ruling party. But today is another day. The local government has done it. During the Democratic Party's Moon Jae In administration, this was done twice, how do you see it? First of all, what I want to ask is, is it often the case that there are two raids? the prosecution's investigation

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: It's a weekly principle. But if I don't finish everything during the week, I'll do it again the next day. Because the validity period of the search and seizure warrant is about a week, I don't know what the situation is, but should we stay up late? But in principle, I can't do it after sunset. So I can do it with your understanding.

◆ Sin-ryul: Second, I don't think the power of the people was so fiercely resisting. Yes, how do you watch this? Do you think it's the right attitude to accept the rule of law as the ruling party? How

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: First of all, on the surface. Like the opposition party, when the ruling party raided the Democratic Party of Korea at the time, there was a few turmoil. It's really unseemly to do that, but I asked for it, and he said, "Hey, this is confidential. I can't give it to you." There are rumors that they brought a search warrant or something, but anyway, luxury people say that Han will make a TF to improve the poll race on the 25th and take a look at everything. If you overlap this, it's rather on the defensive through the party's bulletin board, and this is ingenious because the 22nd local election or by-elections related to Myung Tae-kyun was when he was the Minister of Justice. Most of the people who are suspected of being involved here because they have nothing to do with it are pro-Yoon-gye. So, the purpose is right, and the ruling party is going to cooperate with the seizure and search, but I also think that there is such a thing inside.

◆ Sin Yul: How do you see this? First of all, the Changwon District Prosecutors' Office has even raided and searched, so how can the investigation end so quickly?

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: First of all, we have to check everything related to Myung Tae-kyun within his arrest period. The arrest period is 20 days. I heard the date of next month is the 3rd or 5th. There's not much time left.

◆ Shin Yul: We should check everything we can until then and check as much as possible. But in the prosecution's view now, isn't this originally caused by the problem of former lawmaker Kim Young-sun and Myung Tae-kyun's political funds? Facts

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: So they said that the arrest warrant is the Political Fund Act, but it was already reported for three months.
◆ I mean, I can't help but touch something else.

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: I can't help but touch it. That recording kept coming out and testimony kept coming out

◆ Shin Yul: The Democratic Party seems to have a lot of recordings. So that's what it is now. And there were so many questions to ask, so the issue of the Public Official Election Act was one year in prison and two years of probation in the first trial, and then the first trial was acquitted in the perjury teacher case 11 years later. What do you think of him as a former lawyer and lawyer?

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: I didn't expect it. I read some of the rulings after that, but I can't read them well.

◆ Sin Yul: So you're saying that it's hard to see, right?

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: There's a saying that it's a legal engineer. What it is is is to dig holes that are a little out of line with common sense so that you can run away with writing. In principle, law is the minimum of morality. That's right. Morality is based on common sense and conscience. So you have to match it with common sense. A good law ruling is strange, however, so some of Kim Jin-sung's testimony constitutes perjury, and it is also recognized that Lee Jae-myung requested perjury. But if there is no intention of a perjury teacher, why is Kim Jin-sung going through such a hard time by doing perjury that he didn't overdo himself and by perjury, there should be benefits, but there is no such thing at all, and it is beneficial for the governor Lee to be acquitted. I don't have an interest, so I'll give you a summary of your argument, so please refer to it and take a look. It would be nice if you could do that. The summary of the argument is that the defendant has collected all the legal principles from the facts of the prosecution's prosecution to the exclusion of the other party and the relationship of evidence. This is why I'm innocent. So I feel unfair. So if you look at that, you can see what this branch is claiming. So you don't have to tell me the summary for about two hours. If you just send it, it's a very dangerous thing.

◆ Shin Yul: Since you've dealt with perjury-related judgments when you were a prosecutor. Oh, you didn't do much in the detective department.

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: And it's already been almost 30 years, so I don't remember it very well.

◆ Shin-yul: The reason I ask is that even if I send a summary of my argument, this is nothing, so if many ordinary defendants who are now working on other issues send a summary of their arguments to a person who is likely to be a witness, can't it be a problem anymore? What's going to happen?

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: That defendant is reluctant to come into direct contact with witnesses. If you look into the phone details later, you'll see the prosecution. I was conciliatory then, and you're suspected like this, and then you have to defend yourself that it's not that. So, to define it, it is right to have lawyers contact each other or the lawyer contact the person who may be the witness, but not directly. If you do something wrong, you'll cover up the perjury teacher.

◆ Shin Yul: But since this ruling came out this time, the defendants are a little more active. So if we put it in a good way, can't we see it like this?

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: So in a case where there is no evidence or evidence, but only testimony, this will be quite difficult to judge in the future.

◆ Shin Yul: How do you expect an appeal trial?

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: No, so if this ruling continues in this case, the trial becomes very difficult. Since it's not perjury, and if you look at the criminal law commentary, there's no need to tell the teacher specifically to give perjury like this. You can just tell me the direction of the rough boundary range. And even if the contents of the teacher's testimony are different, it becomes perjury or perjury. These are the stories in the notes in the criminal law textbook. But since I can't understand a little bit, I think there will be a change in the higher level.

◆ Shin Yul: And the other thing is that Kim In-seop, who was put on trial today for taking money and valuables during the development of Baekhyun-dong, was finally sentenced to five years in prison by the Supreme Court. Baekhyun-dong is the reason the media is interested in Kim In-seop's problem. This is how CEO Lee Jae-myung and CEO Lee Jae-myung are in the process of this trial. How do you think it's connected because of this?

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: So anyway, wasn't there a variety of allegations of preferential treatment regarding representative Lee Jae-myung that were raised before the presidential election? This is the first criminal case to be confirmed by a Supreme Court decision. However, Kim In-seop developed information and worked together as a partnership. I said I didn't ask government officials to mediate and act as a broker, but I'm not. You didn't play any role as a developer, and you only solved things that didn't work out well through close relationships with Jeong Jin-sang and Mayor Lee. But under the Special Price Act, it's been confirmed today not to say anything else because it's a mediation material. Then, you are now guilty of saying that the Public Official Election Act was changed to Baekhyun-dong by the threat of the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport. It's not like that, but when Kim In-seop was hired, it was released. That's why it's called a permission room. We're supporting that, and there's another Baekhyun-dong case. In the process of Baekhyun-dong's business, he gave private companies preferential treatment, gave them about 135 billion won in profits, and made Seongnam Dogaegong fall out, causing such losses. So, Kim In-seop played the role of key man in the middle, and the warehouse is Jeong Jin-sang, and whether Governor Lee is behind him is judged by the Baekhyun-dong case. However, it seems that Director Jeong Jin-sang has been confirmed now.

◆ Sin Yul: I see. I think the trial of the case related to Daejang-dong in Baekhyun-dong will take a long time.

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: Baekhyun-dong in Daejang-dong is fortunate to finish the first trial before the presidential election. Too big

◆ Shin Yul: How do you look at that? As for the remittance issue to North Korea.

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: I can go a little faster than that, but I'll keep turning it off.

◆ Shin Yul: One more thing, the trial of former Lieutenant Governor Lee Hwa-young has been delayed a little bit. What do you think is the reason for that? as a legal professional
◇ Cho Eung-cheon: As I was writing the judgment, there is a part that I must put in, but it seems that it is not supported as evidence. Otherwise, you don't have to do this. So, I think there is a hole in the fact that the requirement is actually needed, so I'm trying to supplement it to make up for it.

◆ So what do you think it's been 9 years? What do you think about the possibility of it being reduced or something like that at the appeal trial?

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: Sentencing is so strong that there is a possibility of giving some because 9 years and 6 months are so strong. I don't think innocence is that unlikely.

◆ Shin Yul: And today, the Democratic Party of Korea also voted on holding an impeachment hearing for two prosecutors, Um Hee-joon, who investigated the Daejang-dong Baekhyun-dong case. How do you think about this? But there's so much impeachment these days.
◇ Cho Eung-cheon: In any case, this will eventually be toxic to Lee Jae-myung or the Democratic Party. What this means is that President Yoon Suk Yeol's approval rating is so low right now, and all of them are question marks on his ability to carry out state affairs. On top of that, the government should not go through with the communication and the government should not do that. Even if you complain so much about what the hell is, the candle doesn't light up well. The reason is that they only pretend to be right by words, but only look at the strong supporters, the impeachment special prosecution, and the bill is enforced, showing off their power. So, if the Democratic Party of Korea or Chairman Lee Jae-myung has the executive power, who should stop it? And if he doesn't like the judicial ruling, he'll just curse and this will be a brake-free locomotive. There are many people who are worried that it will become a dictatorship. So, it's not the Democratic Party that can fill the leadership vacuum of President Yoon Suk Yeol right now. Lee Jae-myung is not Lee Jae-myung. I have these thoughts to make someone do good things in the impeachment. So if you keep impeaching like this, no matter how much you do in the square, it becomes a silent echo. We need to be considerate of the minority party even now.

◆ Shin Yul: Okay. That's all for today's talk. Thank you.

◇ Cho Eung-cheon: Thank you.

◆ Shin Yul: I was Cho Eung-cheon, the general special advisor of the New Reform Party.