"Gyeomseol" Kim Byung-joo said, "It went as expected."Four members including Kim Yong-hyun, 'Secret Hoedong,' are moving real troops."

<Kim Byung-joo, Supreme Council Member of the Democratic Party of Korea>

- 尹 A crime of rebellion, a clear violation of the Constitution and martial law.He doesn't even notify the National Assembly after preferring martial law
- "What if the floor leader doesn't come to this situation!" 與 Wa Dae and Choo Kyung-ho were on the phone, saying, "- Different way of controlling the National Assembly by time, the police passed the lawmakers after checking their ID, but an hour later, martial law forces were completely controlled.

YTN Radio (FM 94.5) [YTN News FM Lee Ik-seon Choi Soo-young Issue & People]

□ Broadcast date and time: December 4, 2024 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Lee Ik-seon, Choi Soo-young
□ Performers: Kim Byung-joo, the supreme council member of the Democratic Party of Korea,

- Martial law, as predicted, 'secret meeting' Kim Yong-hyun, special envoy, radiation, counterintelligence commander, forces that moved in actual martial law

* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.
◆Choi Soo-young: President's martial law declaration-release, the Democratic Party of Korea called for President Yoon's immediate resignation and declared that it would otherwise begin impeachment proceedings. Kim Byung-joo, the supreme council member of the Democratic Party of Korea, is connected Is Senator Kim here?

■ Kim Byung-joo: I'm Kim Byung-joo.

◇Lee Ik-seon: Hello. Are you in the National Assembly now?

■Kim Byung-joo: Yes. It's in the National Assembly.

◇Lee Ik-seon: Since when have you been here?

■Kim Byung-joo: I came in right after martial law was declared yesterday, so I've been guarding the National Assembly since a little after 11 o'clock.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: I see.

◆Choi Soo-young: Did you just know that you came to the National Assembly as soon as martial law was declared? Or did you run to the National Assembly after receiving an emergency notice from the party?

■Kim Byung-joo: We left as soon as it was declared. While departing, all lawmakers should come to the National Assembly for now, talking to representative Lee Jae-myung on the phone. But I can arrest him, so I need to be careful. That's what we talked about. We have to be calm in the lawmaker's room again in the middle. If you collide with martial law forces, you can be arrested. Then, since 150 people can't reach the quorum, let's avoid the collision, so we took measures while taking a taxi.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: I see. In the beginning, some lawmakers tried to enter the National Assembly beyond the National Assembly wall, but you saw it on the spot, right? In your case, how did you get in?

■Kim Byung-joo: The control method was different for each time period. It is believed that the military was not deployed and the police were guarding the National Assembly, but the police surrounded the outskirts. When the police were doing it, the lawmakers showed their ID, and the lawmakers were allowed in, and the secretaries and aides were not allowed in. So I came in then, so I showed my ID and came in, but a little later, the military was dispatched for over an hour. Since then, the National Assembly has been completely blocked, so many people have been forced to come over the wall. In the case of Uri floor leader, he was hurt a little bit while crossing the wall.

◇ Profit line: Oh my gosh.

◆Choi Soo-young: However, there is evidence that Cho Seung-rae, the chief spokesman, said that martial law forces stormed into the Lee Jae-myung's office and tried to arrest Lee, followed by Han Dong-hoon, the leader of People's Power, and Woo Won-sik, chairman of the National Assembly, who attempted to arrest and detain him. Is it true that you're saying this? Gentleman?

■ Kim Byung-joo: Plastic arrests to arrest and things like that have been found. When all the secretaries and aides closed the main building of the National Assembly, they came through the window, but I think they also snooped a lot from the windows of representatives Lee Jae-myung and Han Dong-hoon. When I saw the CCTV, I later entered through the window of the People's Power Policy Committee's room. I entered and it was on the second floor, but it seems that the search activity was conducted on the third floor. But on the third floor, there was a speaker of the National Assembly. And since it is a thread where the vice-chairman of the National Assembly is located, perhaps the National Assembly cannot be held if the chairman and the vice-chairman of the National Assembly are detained or something is controlled, right? So it seems to be this activity to defeat the opening of the National Assembly. And CEO Lee Jae-myung and CEO Han Dong-hoon, I also felt a lot of fear of arrest. In fact, I felt very threatened to detain the supreme council member or the party leader at the core of that, and I thought that it could disrupt the operation of the party and paralyze the National Assembly.

◇ Profit line: Let's turn the clock upside down. It was 10:23 last night. How did you hear the emergency statement announcing the president's emergency martial law?

■ Kim Byung-joo: That's ridiculous. In fact, the emergency martial law itself is a violation of the Constitution and a very super-legal matter that violates the law. Actually, as you know, when is the emergency martial law held? It's a wartime incident or a national emergency. It's not an exhibition or an incident, but yesterday was a peaceful evening, right? But when I heard that the military had imposed emergency martial law like this, I was so embarrassed and thought that something had come. I've actually been raising the question since August that the government of Yoon Suk Yeol is going to do emergency martial law. At that time, when Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun was nominated as Defense Minister, he raised the issue right away. When we did it in August, most people said, "What era is this? Martial law or conspiracy theory in the power of the people?" They attacked me a lot, and after that, they called me into the space of the Special Forces commander, the water defense commander, and the counterintelligence commander at the time of Security Minister Kim Yong-hyun. We raised the issue several times. I also talked about conspiracy theories at that time, but the commander is actually the forces that moved the troops to the core this time. So the people were ridiculous and absurd at that time, and when would it happen? Unfortunately, it became a reality. So, in fact, martial law is a weak structure that can be issued at any time when a dictator or an unconventional president appears, so our party preemptively revised and proposed the martial law law. It includes a clause that says that if you get consent from the National Assembly or if you don't get approval from the National Assembly within 24 hours, you will automatically lift martial law on time. Even then, when we raised the issue, what are you talking about in terms of the power of the people? I asked if the Democratic Party of Korea of the National Assembly could vote right away. Weren't you trying to mobilize the military to neutralize the legislative National Assembly? So this is a real outrage.

◆Choi Soo-young: However, right after declaring martial law last night, Lee Jae-myung argued that the president's declaration of martial law was unconstitutional and that President Yoon's order was unconstitutional and invalid. Can you tell me what made you say this?

■Kim Byung-joo: Yes, that's right. This is obviously unconstitutional. In Article 77 (1) of the Constitution, it was done even though it was not a national emergency equivalent to a wartime incident. Then, when martial law is imposed, according to Article 2, Paragraph 2 of the Martial Law, the military is deployed when the actual administration and the judiciary are confused, but the legislature, the National Assembly, is not included in this. So in fact, you tried to mobilize the military to neutralize the legislature, right? So this is a complete violation of the Constitution and the actual martial law. The procedure is also problematic. If martial law is declared, it is required to notify the National Assembly without delay. But the president didn't do that properly, so it's unconstitutional and illegal, so it's our party's position that it's a crime of rebellion.

◇Lee Ik-seon: An emergency meeting was held immediately, and after Chairman Woo Won-sik urged him to raise it according to the agenda procedure, martial law was eventually lifted. How did the Democrats gather their opinions in this process?

■ Kim Byung-joo: Here, the emergency martial law is wrong because not only the Korean people, the Democratic Party of Korea, but also 18 members of the People's Power came to the plenary session. The entire demand was that it should be lifted quickly. Fortunately, this is actually the resolution to lift martial law because about 190 people quickly entered the main building of the National Assembly. In fact, in the process of such a resolution, the lawmakers asked Woo Won-sik, the chairman of the National Assembly, to do it quickly because it was a little delayed due to various preparations, but he asked him to be on time because he needed some procedures. At that time, martial law soldiers were just breaking the window of the main building and entering the main office. And I tried to enter the plenary session. Then if I'm in a very desperate situation, I've just decided on a very real flashpoint. At that time, martial law soldiers brought all the night vision goggles. Then, if the fire induces a power outage, you can't do that. That's why I thought I brought a variety of ways.

◇Lee Ik-seon: Did any of the 18 members of the People's Power who participated in the decision to lift martial law yesterday talk?

■Kim Byung-joo: Yes. CEO Lee Jae-myung and CEO Han Dong-hoon were there.

◆Choi Soo-young: He was at the plenary session.

■ Kim Byung-joo: I went there and shook hands with him in person, thanked him for participating, and I also shook hands with about 10 members of the People's Power Party who were behind him. Your courage is high. They thanked him and said, "This is too unfair," and some members of the People's Power were probably calling the floor leader, but they were saying things out loud. "What if the floor leader, Choo Kyung-ho, doesn't come to this situation, and we have to come and solve it," he said on the phone.

◆ Choi Soo-young: Immediately after the martial law was declared, Han Dong-hoon, the representative of the People's Power, said, "This is unconstitutional martial law and we will prevent it with the people." How did you hear this part, Senator Kim?

■Kim Byung-joo: That's a given. In fact, representative Han Dong-hoon also stipulated from the beginning that this was unconstitutional and illegal, and most of the close lawmakers participated in the resolution to lift martial law and voted for it. So how anxious was the people when the emergency martial law was unconstitutional and illegal by anyone's eyes and it became this now? And the national dignity was damaged. How much would the world see us as underdeveloped from an advanced country with developed democracy? That's how the foreign media sees it. It's this kind of unconventional case that's a rebellion, that's damaging to national dignity, that's enormous.

◇Lee Ik-seon: Is it around 6 a.m. today for the Democratic Party? We held an emergency general meeting of lawmakers and issued a resolution. Among the contents of the resolution, if the president does not voluntarily resign, he will immediately begin impeachment proceedings. Do you have any part to supplement the contents of the resolution on how the Democratic Party will pursue impeachment at the party level in the future?

■Kim Byung-joo: The Democratic Party of Korea held a general meeting and collected two things at the same time. If you don't resign, ask for your resignation, not impeachment immediately. The impeachment motion is proposed today, the procedure is implemented immediately, and the National Assembly is held tomorrow to report. Then, 200 people have to participate in it, so other opposition parties and some of the people's power cooperate to bring out about 200 people, so when it's good to make a decision the day after tomorrow, it can be seen as a little flexible in time.

◆Choi Soo-young: Saturday is not included in the plenary session, is it?

■Kim Byung-joo: Isn't it an emergency situation because the National Assembly can vote on it? And they are also aware of the seriousness of the people's power. What's really upsetting to me is that even though emergency martial law is unconstitutional, laws are violated and civil war crimes are committed, wouldn't the National Power Lawmakers who participate in the revocation vote be seen as aiding and abetting civil war crimes? It looks like it will be judged by the people. Therefore, it seems that the impeachment prosecution will also be judged by the people if they oppose it from the power of the people. Because of the seriousness of this situation, the Chief of Staff of the President's Office is actually expressing his resignation and the Cabinet is moving like that to resign altogether.