- The martial law forces that entered the National Assembly are 707 Special Forces and Special Lease for Water Defense, 1st and 3rd Brigade National Assembly Outside Security
- Commander Park An-soo, who is usually reasonable and gentle.Reports that they entered Yongsan yesterday
- Martial Law Forces very passively 'pretend' despite being an elite unit 707 air force.
□ Broadcast date and time: December 4, 2024 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Lee Ik-seon, Choi Soo-young
□ Performers: Kim Byung-joo, the supreme council member of the Democratic Party of Korea,
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◆Choi Soo-young: What surprised many people when they watched the video last night was that the people saw the military helicopter just floating over Yeouido at night and then the armed soldiers were deployed on the screen. Anyway, you're a four-star general, but after martial law was declared like this, is the martial law army dispatched like this?
■Kim Byung-joo: That's right. Yesterday, I focused on the National Assembly. It is originally an emergency security martial law and emergency martial law, but emergency martial law is the highest level. The military is put into the national administration and judiciary. But I think it was carried out step by step. First, the National Assembly was neutralized, and now the martial law army seemed to be taking over the administration and the judiciary later. So it seems that he focused on the National Assembly first. Special forces troops and special leases of water and radiation came mainly. The rest of the corps-level or higher commanders remained on standby through video conference.
◇Lee Ik-seon: But why is this time difference when martial law troops did not arrive at the National Assembly as soon as martial law took effect, but the National Assembly guards first blocked it and arrived about an hour later?
■Kim Byung-joo: I think I only knew about martial law preparations until the commander-level or general-level. The actual moving troops were on alert after President Yoon declared martial law. Then, some people must have left work, right? That's why it took some time to come in and prepare. So in fact, I think it's a heavenly fate for a lot of lawmakers to actually end these unfortunate events in six hours by taking the time to enter the National Assembly's main building. Perhaps if martial law forces had been deployed earlier and blocked the main building of the National Assembly building, a lot of people would not have come in, so the unfortunate time in history would have continued. It was such a lamentable moment.
◆Choi Soo-young: But looking at the troops sent to the National Assembly yesterday, there is a mark of the Special Warfare Command on the shoulder, and some say that the troops sent to the precinct are special leases for water and radiation. What makes you right?
■Kim Byung-joo: We have to wait and see, but the three units are surrounded by the National Assembly or put in. Unit 707 in the Special Forces is a very elite unit. After the unit and the 1st Airborne Brigade, the fastest place to come is the special water radiation unit. So, it is presumed that the Special Forces and the 707th Unit entered the compound. It is reported that the 1st Brigade probably surrounded the outskirts of the National Assembly, and the 3rd Brigade was dispatched to guard the martial law command. So now, there is a report that special forces and water radiation forces were mainly deployed here, and the rest of the water radiation forces were on standby in the compound to provide follow-up support. So the key was to mobilize special forces first, and it was reported that the rest of the corps-level units had actual corps leaders on standby and no orders were issued.
◇ Lee Ik-seon: I see.
■ Kim Byung-joo: So the special forces commander, the defense commander, and the counterintelligence commander in the security chief's space, which we raised suspicions about before, gathered together and held a secret meeting. These things are now almost proven to have this martial law in mind.
◇ Lee Ik-seon: I see. The martial law commander's joint chief of staff, Park An-soo, was appointed. Did you find out when Park An-soo, commander of martial law, knew about the declaration of martial law?
■Kim Byung-joo: I don't know exactly, but there is a circumstantial report that some members of the Special Forces Command prepared about two days ago. If so, I think the martial law commander probably knew about two or a day ago. Finally, there is a report that Army General Park An-soo entered Yongsan yesterday afternoon. In fact, it would have materialized at that time. So maybe two days ago, I think this movement on martial law was done secretly only from above. And I've just been informed that the corps leaders and the rest of the Posta level in front of me didn't actually know this situation. Therefore, there are some testimonies that the commander of the corps only left the makeup open, and the defense minister or the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff did not say anything, so they watched the news and figured out why this happened and were confused among themselves.
◆Choi Soo-young: Since you were a general in the military, is it a manual that the army chief of staff is originally appointed as the martial law commander? Or is it a manual to be nominated by the president among generals?
■Kim Byung-joo: The president will be nominated.
◆Choi Soo-young: You can appoint a chief of staff.
■Kim Byung-joo: Like last time, when the deputy head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was a poster child, a person like the deputy head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff can also be appointed. And then you can give the army general a mission. I think the army is the main force for the martial law army. That's why you can be a four-star general in the Army General or Joint Chiefs of Staff. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff can be criticized because he has to lead a wartime operation against North Korea. If you do it with the martial law commander. I think that's why I gave the mission to the army chief.
◇Lee Ik-seon: What kind of person is President Park An-soo? Senator, you know that, don't you?
■Kim Byung-joo: I know it well. He is usually a reasonable and gentle person, but I think he was probably in trouble after receiving this mission. Nevertheless, I should have rejected this, but such a lack of courage should be blamed. And the martial law soldiers that were deployed this time were very passive. In fact, Unit 707 is a very elite unit, but when you look at the actual process of entering the National Assembly, they pretend to have done this very passively.
◇ Lee Ik-seon: I don't know. It looked a little sloppy on the screen.
■ Kim Byung-joo: That's why the occupying martial law forces that were deployed to the army must have felt that this was unfair. I think they were passive because they could be guilty and guilty if they did something wrong. It is said that two armored vehicles outside the National Assembly came, but even then, when citizens surrounded them, they did not resist much. Many camera YouTubers have been added. Therefore, it seems that they recognized that they were very wrong about this, and it seems that they were very passive in their behavior of avoiding the camera without resisting it.
◆Choi Soo-young: Han Dong-hoon, the representative of People's Power, said, "The president explained to the people about the dire situation of emergency martial law and demanded that Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun be fired. But usually, there are two members of the State Council who can demand martial law: the Minister of Public Administration and Security and the Minister of National Defense, right? Then the defense minister demanded that this martial law be declared martial law. Is CEO Han Dong-hoon watching right now?
■Kim Byung-joo: That's how the minister of defense suggested it. I believe that the Minister of Defense suggested it. So, if the National Assembly opens now, I think the Minister of Defense and the Minister of Public Administration and Security should be impeached immediately in the afternoon. Because the embattled president of Yoon Suk Yeol and his forces could plan something else. It can lead to a second martial law or a war, so I think we need to quickly remove its roots and find stability for the people.
◇Lee Ik-seon: As a result, it was mentioned briefly earlier.It was our lawmaker Kim Byung-joo who warned about martial law in advance, but this became a reality. What did you think after you came across this?
■Kim Byung-joo: I made the same argument, but it was so absurd. Isn't this martial law a last resort, if you go into the impeachment phase, and you're really on the verge of impeachment? In that situation, he didn't take out the sword of martial law, but now he is in the Budget National Assembly and the chairman of the Board of Audit and Inspection is doing this impeachment because there are many things that violate the law, but it doesn't make sense for the Democratic Party to drive it as an anti-state force and make such a ridiculous emergency martial law. So at first, I was so embarrassed and really angry, and I was afraid that President Yoon Suk Yeol was out of his mind or not. Because it's expected to make a lot of arrests to prevent them from meeting their quorum when they go to the National Assembly quickly. Then the priority will be Lee Jae-myung and me. So I asked CEO Lee Jae-myung to take care of himself and leave the house quickly. CEO Lee Jae-myung and CEO Kim also felt a sense of crisis, saying, "Please leave home quickly." However, he should go to the National Assembly to protect the people. Hurry up. In particular, CEO Lee Jae-myung showed his courage in this crisis. When I came to the National Assembly, I turned on YouTube Live and said, "All members of the National Assembly should come to the plenary session hall," and the people came to the National Assembly and said, "We have to fight together to win."
◇Lee Ik-seon: Is the situation similar to the martial law you claimed at the time?
■ Kim Byung-joo: It's similar. What did I claim at the time in the power of the people? The Democratic Party of Korea now has a majority party, but if the majority votes, it will lift martial law, which makes sense, he said. What I said at the time was that it was difficult. I said something difficult. It will immediately issue a decree, controlling the freedom of association of media gatherings and prohibiting political activities. Then, the National Assembly can't work if only 30 to 40 lawmakers are arrested because they are caught red-handed, or if the chairman or vice chairman of the National Assembly is detained or arrested. I actually wanted it to be true as I predicted, but I'm really angry that this unfortunate event happened and a history regression and democracy regressing, and now President Yoon Suk Yeol has to put an end to it. The will to resign has become stronger.
◆Choi Soo-young: However, apart from pursuing impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol, the Democratic Party of Korea has also decided to file charges against President Yoon, Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun, and Public Administration Minister Lee Sang-min for rebellion and pursue impeachment. Why do you think it's a crime of rebellion?
■ Kim Byung-joo: A person who rioted for the purpose of excluding state power or disrupting national constitution is regarded as a rebellion. It excluded the power of the state, or it excluded the legislative power, the National Assembly. He neutralized it again. Didn't you promiscuous the National Constitution and violate the Constitution? Didn't the military mobilize the military to infiltrate the legislature in violation of the actual law and the constitution, and neutralize soldiers with guns by entering the main office of the National Assembly? This is a crime of rebellion. Jurists also reviewed a lot at dawn, which is a clear crime of rebellion. Isn't it possible for the president to immediately investigate the crime of rebellion? And I'm in that position that I have to do it. History will repeat itself again if these crimes of rebellion, especially those who participated in the emergency experience, are not severely punished. Emergency martial law happened 45 years ago, and in fact, how much has our democratization developed and our Republic of Korea developed? The level of public consciousness has also increased. Nevertheless, the Yoon Suk Yeol regime and the President of Yoon Suk Yeol acquired these emergency martial law and caused rebellion. So it seems that this history will be repeated again if we don't punish this severely.
◆Choi Soo-young: But I have one more question: There were reports that the presidential office ordered the police chief to wait for emergency four hours before the martial law was declared, did the Democratic Party of Korea also check this information?
■Kim Byung-joo: It was confirmed after the fact. It's not confirmed in advance. After martial law was issued, some lawmakers called and said yes. I also used to turn my phone around the military a lot. to check the military's movements In fact, the Democratic Party of Korea did not detect this case until President Yoon announced martial law. The continued warning and even the revision of martial law had the conviction that martial law would be declared if it was driven further into a political crisis, but I didn't get to the specific point. Yesterday's incident.
◇Lee Ik-seon: At least the president, the defense minister, and the minister of the Ministry of Public Administration and Security seem to have shared the martial law plan. Do you think there are any other members of the State Council?
■ Kim Byung-joo: I don't know. We'll have to wait and see. This time, I think a high degree of secrecy has been maintained to do martial law. Isn't there at least the Minister of Defense and three key commanders on the military side? I think I would have shared the counterintelligence commander, the special forces commander, and the defense commander and the army general. It's almost a day or two ago. And I received a report that it was not shared with the rest of the military leaders or poster-levels. And maybe the State Council member, the Minister of Public Administration and Security, is related to the police. Therefore, it seems that the minister of the Ministry of Public Administration and Security may have shared it, and the rest of the State Council members may not have shared it.
◆Choi Soo-young: Representative Kim's impeachment is now visible. About President Yoon. There are reports that they will find a point of contact with what the Cho Kuk Innovation Party proposed today and share the contents, and there are reports that they will report to the plenary session tomorrow. How is this impeachment schedule going in the future?
■Kim Byung-joo: First of all, our party is trying to propose today. Of course, it seems that they will consult with other Cho Kuk Innovation Party and other opposition parties when proposing. However, I will now propose it today and report it to the National Assembly tomorrow at the plenary session. Then, it should be considered a little flexible whether or not it passes the plenary session. It's because shouldn't it be certain to secure 200 people? If 200 people fail to vote during the plenary session and it is rejected again, it will move on to the next session. And it's getting a little difficult, but haven't there been 18 people who participated in the resolution to lift martial law this time? I think they've already crossed the river that they won't be able to come back. In relation to President Yoon, I hope that such people will participate. In fact, since this is President Yoon's clear rebellion and an incident that left the wheel of history behind and retreated democracy, I don't think the people will forgive him because it seems that the people's power lawmakers agree with him if he opposes it.
◇Lee Ik-seon: Including Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-suk, the three presidential secretaries, all senior secretaries, and all cabinet members have expressed their resignation. If President Lee accepts his resignation, won't he effectively paralyze the function of the presidential office's administration?
■Kim Byung-joo: That's possible. Isn't it the President of Yoon Suk Yeol who has led to such paralysis now? Didn't you just declare a state of emergency and completely paralyze the country? In fact, how anxious were our people from last night throughout the night? The world also paid attention to Korea as an advanced country and a well-democratic country, but there are many voices of concern. That's why I think now that we need to end the Yoon Suk Yeol regime quickly so that we don't turn this wheel of history back anymore.
◆Choi Soo-young: It's about someone else's party, but let me ask you a second. Although it has not been decided yet at the ruling party's closed Supreme Council meeting held at the National Assembly. After President Yoon Suk Yeol's request for defection, some consensus was formed on the resignation of the Cabinet and the dismissal of Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun, and representative Han Dong-hoon also mentioned it like this. Do you think all three of them will come true?
■ Kim Byung-joo: I don't think that's enough for me. What's changed by leaving the president of Yoon Suk Yeol? In fact, that's why I sincerely hope that the answer will not be so passive, but will participate in the impeachment motion of the Yoon Suk Yeol. Also, Koreans who took pictures of President Yoon Suk Yeol did it because they saw the Yoon Suk Yeol administration as a symbol of fairness and common sense when they took the presidency, but now they have seen the reality, right? I think you need to be determined because it divides and messes up the country and puts the country in crisis like this. Now, shouldn't we join President Yoon Suk Yeol in bringing down the hand that he pulled out and set up our national democracy and economic people's livelihoods, which have now retreated? I expect many people to participate here because our people are great.
◇Lee Ik-seon: I heard that the Democratic Party of Korea has decided to put on hold the vote on the impeachment motion against Choi Hae-soo, the auditor of the Board of Audit and Inspection, and Lee Chang-soo, the head of the Seoul Central District Prosecutors' Office, which was originally announced today. How will this work in the future?
■Kim Byung-joo: We were supposed to vote today, weren't we? But now, let's put this on hold, and a big incident has happened, hasn't it? Impeachment and resignation of the President of Yoon Suk Yeol. I thought I should focus more on this, so I put it on hold for now.
◇Lee Ik-seon: Then it's not canceled, but we'll proceed again later?
■Kim Byung-joo: Yes, it's not canceled. I put it on hold for now. We need to look at next week's trend, right?
◇ Lee Ik-seon: I see. You've been staying in the National Assembly for about 15 hours now, so your voice has lost a lot of energy, so thank you for your phone interview today.
■Kim Byung-joo: Yes, thank you.
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