□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15-09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: December 17, 2024 (Tue)
□ Host: Kim Woo-sung PD
□ Cast: Choi Hyung-doo, member of the People's Power,
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◆ PD Kim Woo-sung (hereinafter referred to as Kim Woo-sung): The internal situation of the power of the people is complicated. With the resignation of Han Dong-hoon, the power of the people has been transformed into an emergency committee system again. It is the fifth emergency committee in the Yoon Suk Yeol government since the party name was changed. Let's connect Choi Young-doo, a member of the People's Power, to hear about how the party's contents will be settled and what preparations will be made for the early presidential election in the future. How are you, Senator?
◇ Member for the Power of the People Choi Hyung-doo (hereinafter referred to as Choi Hyung-doo): How have you been?
◆ Kim Woo-sung: The party leader has stepped down. As representative Han Dong-hoon stepped down, he said, "I do not regret taking the lead in favor of impeachment or preventing illegal martial law." It's a similar remark to President Yoon's. I said this and left. How do you rate it?
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: Anyway, from the martial law incident to impeachment, the responsibility as the party leader must have been very heavy. And rather than the individual decision of the party leader, the entire party leadership resigned. According to our party's constitution, if more than four supreme members of the supreme council resign from the supreme council, the supreme council composed of the party leader and the supreme council will be disbanded. It's a follow-up measure. Our party leader is already changing like this several times, and I think it shows some vulnerability in our party structure. In fact, I personally did not have much sympathy within our party, but I have thought that the party representation system ruins the parliamentary politics of our country. Personally, I tried to stop people running for the leadership of the party, but I also argued that the party leadership system should be eliminated, but it is difficult for one person to take responsibility for everything. In fact, as the party leader sees well in the Democratic Party of Korea in some cases, the nomination, individual standing committees and lawmakers in the floor are based on their conscience, conviction, knowledge and wisdom. In addition, depending on the nature of the current issue, there is a problem that the party leader wants to lead all the decisions that need to be made through deep research, so I thought the party leader system ruined the politics of the Korean parliament, but this time, it is difficult to look at all of Han Dong-hoon's cases in that context. It's hard, but it's basically the responsibility of the party leader. As CEO Han Dong-hoon said, I think it is a great contribution of Han to prevent martial law together anyway. And there have been a number of controversies in our party over impeachment and talk about this inevitability, but as Chairman Han Dong-hoon said, let's solve this problem in a faster and more accurate way than impeachment and in a predictable way. We tried to solve the political solution with the president and the leaders of the ruling and opposition parties, but we failed as a result. The failed result eventually led to an impeachment vote. However, representative Han Dong-hoon lifted martial law and argued against impeachment because he initially said martial law itself was very illegal and unconstitutional, but he did not control all the individual votes of lawmakers. It happened in such a problem situation, but I will talk about it again this time through the party representation system, but I will say that the party representation system makes our politics more confusing.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes. Various conservative politics have already been said for a long time. However, there are also rumors that the traitor theory is very strong within the party, and that the party will be divided. How do you rate the situation?
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: Yes, there were some claims, but overall, the general meeting held right after the impeachment vote and the general meeting held yesterday are gathering opinions that it's time for us to all join forces together, and I think that's how the problem is being resolved. Of course, there may be a lot of ideas about this, but a lot of people have been saying that everyone's story, especially the senior members of our party and the first-term members of our party, is "more scary" than impeachment. So we have to overcome this division, but our party is back in its direction. On the other hand, from the 21st to the 22nd half of the National Assembly, for example, from the 21st to the 22nd, there were many cases in which the National Assembly was mobilized for the bulletproofness of representative Lee Jae-myung, and various legislative powers. In fact, the only thing that could be checked was more than 100 seats. So, we are gathering public opinion in the direction that we should overcome this division because more than 100 seats are necessary for us to protect the values of our party and maintain the consistency of our policies.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes. Rep. Choi Hyung-doo will also take some responsibility as politicians at cloud-related events and outside, I'm sorry. While expressing this, a lot of people have reasonable things to say. I think they're looking forward to this, too. So let me ask you. Then, the emergency committee chairman who can resolve this situation more reasonably. Who should lead the party's direction and leadership, and who are you talking about?
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: Before I tell you my story, it was discussed at our general meeting yesterday, but shouldn't the party show its own ability to solve it rather than outside personnel?
◆ Kim Woosung: Are you talking about floor appointments?
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: Yes. As we are a minority party, we really need the ability to control the strong pressure and sprint of the Democratic Party and the majority party and coordinate the direction our country should go and the policy direction our party thinks. If so, I think we should solve this situation by forming an emergency committee to take the chairmanship with people who have strong trust in the party and are a little smooth in the ruling and opposition parties. In many ways, he is being named, but we need to wait and see the discussion a little more.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes. Now that you're talking about it, I'm even more curious. Who will it be? Well, it's often divided like this. It's a view from the outside, but they're saying it's a pro-Yoon-gye or not, but there's also an analysis that it's likely that it's a pro-Yoon-gye personnel appointment again.
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: Actually, that's the media's point of view, and that's not true, but that distinction is meaningless now. Now that our entire party is at the center of this crisis political crisis, I think we need to discuss how to overcome it. There was a brief discussion during the last floor leader election, but rather, experience is important to see Kwon Sung-dong leading various controversies in the party after the impeachment vote. That's what I thought, and that experience is what can smooth over the relationship between the ruling and opposition parties. I think about it. For example, just because I'm a certain group, and I have a certain ideology doesn't mean that this politics is solved like that, right? That's why the ability to consult and discuss with each other is important under any principles. One is now suspended due to the impeachment and the other is now retired as the party leader, so I think that distinction between pro-Yoon and close is meaningless anymore. Who is more wise and bold, and in principle, the three are difficult to reconcile.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: He said there was no distinction, but when he resigned, representative Han Dong-hoon said, "The brake that can prevent the power of the people from being pushed to one side has disappeared. ” You said that, but looking at this, I wonder if CEO Han Dong-hoon said this with the presidential election in mind. Secondly, I wonder what you would think about the expression that the party has lost its balance.
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: We have to find that balance. That's what you have to find and that's what you might say from the perspective of Han Dong-hoon, but for our party, it's not important to define yourself like that, and shouldn't it be more necessary to overcome that phenomenon? So I don't know if I can say that I resigned until yesterday, but from today, it's more important for us to try to get out of those regulations ourselves. And in this respect, former CEO Han Dong-hoon is now in the position of serving in the military. However, I think the future of former representative Han Dong-hoon and the weight of our party will be determined by how he shares his principles and beliefs with more people and gains sympathy. Didn't we see many times that principles and beliefs are important, but the ability to spread them to empathy is very important for political leaders?
◆ [Kim Woo-sung] Yes, I see. Not only within the party, but also outside the party. I think that's what the opposition party is saying. So, by the way, Lee Jae-myung, chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea, talked about the "National Political Stability Consultative Body" to the opposition party. There was some opposition to this. Through floor leader Kwon Sung-dong. He said that it is okay for the people to take the initiative again, and said, "Let's have a national stability consultative body since the pending issues are urgent." How do you rate it?
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: In fact, I would like to show that representative Lee Jae-myung also leads this phase. But it's actually the floor's job. This is especially true of the current budget issue, and didn't you create a budget for the reduction plan led by CEO Lee Jae-myung last time? I know the situation well because I was a budget settlement committee and there is a budget adjustment subcommittee. Our ruling and opposition lawmakers have been discussing endlessly about reducing some parts of the budget and increasing some parts to balance it, but at the end, we just went and collectively reduced it. So, I led this conclusion that invalidated all discussions, but I can only think of it as representative Lee Jae-myung, right? Lee Jae-myung's leadership. He's the one who made things go wrong because it was such a situation, but what are you going to do now? This is actually what the floor should do. In fact, there is a permanent consultation between the chairman of the National Assembly and the floor leader on the floor. Now, the prime minister is here and I'm the floor leader. If necessary, I think it is right to proceed with such a permanent consultative body, including the chairman of the policy committee of both parties, by having the prime minister attend the consultative body already in operation in the National Assembly. So, I think it was the defeat of Korean politics that the leader of the party controls it like this, such as the general meeting of the lawmakers, the standing committee of the lawmakers, and the lawmakers' experience, effort, knowledge, and conscience. Therefore, if Representative Lee Jae-myung is really worried about state affairs, isn't it the representative chosen by the floor leaders and lawmakers of the ruling and opposition parties? I think the way to stabilize the current situation is to have the floor leader and the chairman of the policy committee attend and have the prime minister consult with the chairman of the National Assembly if necessary.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: He said, "Let's solve it with what we already have with the permanent consultative body, not with the National Security Council." Attention was drawn not only to the independent counsel's law, but also to the right to request reconsideration of the six bills, but acting president Han Deok-soo will deliberate a little now. I won't make up my mind quickly and I'll have some time. I'll take my time. I announced this position again this morning. Is the opinion of the ruling party a little different from the opinion of the people's power? What do you think?
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: Uh, all six bills have some problems right now. In particular, the four bills related to the economy are actually the Democratic Party of Korea and were not done even when the Democratic Party was in power. Representative ones are the laws of the two countries. It's like the grain management method, the grain management method, but the government's efforts to stabilize rice prices through various bilateral stability funds have been in the draft. But on the other hand, the rice is oversupplied now. It is said that it is easy because people do not eat rice and the rice continues to increase, and the rice farming is relatively well mechanized. So if farmers are going to easy rice farming as much as possible and say that they always guarantee a certain amount of rice regardless of the supply of rice, this can disrupt agriculture.
◆ Kim Woosung :
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◇ Choi Hyung-doo: Because it's a burden, these laws and the National Assembly Testimony Appraisal Act. When all companies come to the National Assembly, the chairman of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce in Korea, where Chairman Lee Jae-myung met yesterday, is also concerned about the issue, and all domestic and foreign companies are worried about it.
◆ Kim Woo-sung : Exercising my right to claim
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: I think those laws should be proposed by the National Assembly.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, then Han Deok-soo, the acting president, should exercise the right to demand reconsideration, the right to veto. Are you in this position?
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: Yes, so the second requirement is probably the government's will, and Prime Minister Han Deok-soo has not opposed the bilateral management law or anything like this at the Cabinet meeting. It is also a principle that the government has kept in check since the last Moon Jae In government. There should have been legislation balancing certain market economy predictability, market economy stability, and certain income preservation for farmers.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: I think the Democratic Party of Korea is in the position that if I exercise my right to demand or veto now, Prime Minister Han Deok-soo can also be impeached. This
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: It's rather that the Democratic Party is overrun with this situation right now, and eventually that arrow of the Democratic Party will come. It's a very serious issue right now. I see. In a way, the current political crisis is a national crisis. If you look at the foreign exchange market and our stock market, foreigners are taking out money. Since we have to deal with these issues that need to be stabilized, we have to take a bigger responsibility and push Prime Minister Han Deok-soo to go into anarchy.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, go to anarchy or take greater responsibility. That's what they said. You're acting like a super-defense secretary. Yes, the investigation results have not revealed the truth of what Kim Eo-jun said at the National Assembly's department. It's unknown, but there are talks about the shooting of CEO Han Dong-hoon and the deployment of special forces. You must have listened to it together in this department, what do you think?
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: Oh, of course, I can if an individual is receiving such a serious death threat, so I immediately asked. In fact, it was not called as an agreement between the ruling and opposition parties, and if the situation is like that, it should be to protect one's own safety and reveal the truth of the situation surrounding the current martial law situation at the National Assembly Intelligence Committee or the National Defense Committee, but it was also very strange that they came suddenly and over-defense. I am the secretary of the ruling party, but there has been no consultation on this. However, he suddenly came and said he would talk about the broadcast exclusively with the camera, but even the opposition lawmaker wanted to ask about Kim Ho-joon's claim, but all of them left without being asked. What's bigger is that I don't sympathize with and agree with Kim Eui-joon's usual claims and what he's been doing so far, but if you say you're in an emergency, shouldn't you ask for the protection of the state?
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: The leader of the opposition party also receives security from the police for any illness, but what is more urgent now is that he asked if there was a device to guarantee his safety right now, rather than coming here and talking to me, and the police did not apply. But I was disappointed because they said they were doing a private case. On that part, what's more, yes, but on that claim, it came from some kind of ally country. And the allies really deny it. Then, I keep going in a different direction, but I think I have to reveal the truth clearly.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: We need to clarify the facts through investigation and investigation. We will summarize it like this.
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: It's going to be revealed.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Now, the Democratic Party of Korea impeached the chairman of the Communications Commission. He also announced the impeachment of the chairman of the Korea Communications Standards Commission, and he will serve as a minister-level political officer. We also passed the amendment to the installation law. How do you see these movements?
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: This is a bit of a problem. This is what the Democratic Party probably agrees with, and the Democratic Party probably proposed it at first, and it was established as a private independent. The government deliberates on broadcasting and communications independently of state power and partisan interests, and disciplines false fabricated news as false fabricated news, protects real news, and in particular, human rights violations through communication problems and crimes are being committed. It is to manage such things in a neutral manner, and the ruling and opposition parties agreed to make it. This is why it was discussed here when the Roh Moo Hyun government created a council in 2006.
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: For the fairness of the deliberation of this communication, doesn't the Korea Communications Commission actually have an information committee member? These public officials made the Korea Communications Standards Commission a private independent organization because they needed to set up an organization to perform the work independently from the Korea Communications Commission. But this is the point of the Democratic Party. Well, most of the employees go to a private independent organization, but if the chairman of the Korea Communications Standards Commission does that, let's make it a political position. It means that if the head becomes a public servant, he cannot become independent due to partisan interests. The reason for this argument is that the Democratic Party of Korea has come up with many things, but it can be a piership. In the beginning, for example, if someone appoints and appoints to a government, or if this happens, the neutrality of broadcasting deliberation will be guaranteed.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: More guarantees of neutrality are needed. We'll listen to what you've said. Thank you for talking today.
◇ Choi Hyung-doo: Yes, thank you.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, he's the ruling party secretary of the department. It was Rep. Choi Hong-du, the power of the people.
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