The National Assembly's Legislation and Judiciary Committee will hold a general meeting to ask pending questions about the emergency martial law situation and investigation.
Questions about the trial of the Constitutional Court for the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol are also expected.
Let's go straight to the scene.
[Interview]
Director of Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, did I ask Minister Park Sung-jae, who was sitting next to me last time, to quickly arrest him or not?
[Interview]
You asked me that question.
[Interview]
I'm not arresting you, so don't you think you've replaced all your phones? You're destroying evidence. Why aren't you investigating quickly and making your accomplices destroy evidence, flee and reduce cases? Please investigate quickly. Please investigate quickly.
[Oh Dongwoon]
I see.
[Kim Yongmin]
The chief of the court administration is continuing to talk about the delay of the trial, but the fact is that impeachment of the president is a suspension of the president's duties, so the period of suspension of the presidential office should be minimized to minimize the gap in state affairs, which is why the impeachment trial should be completed quickly. Isn't it another matter to fully guarantee the rights of the accused in criminal trials now? How do you see it?
[Interview]
It can be seen that each of them has its own side.
[Kim Yongmin]
And the ruling party lawmakers keep talking about the delay in the trial while talking about the delay in the trial of Lee Jae-myung. The court should not easily accept that the ruling party is saying it now. Do you know why? Many lawmakers, like Choo Kyung-ho, conspired to carry out this rebellion as accomplices, saying that I can't specify who the ruling party lawmakers are now. That's why we're voting in the National Assembly... Listen to it! Where do accomplices go recklessly? Listen.
So, it prevented us from passing martial law. I kept delaying the plenary session. Such accomplices now have ruling party lawmakers. Do you know what those ruling party members are trying to do? I was going to arrest the judge right away. I was trying to arrest the judge who acquitted me. So, the court should not answer so generously to the ruling party lawmaker's remarks because it is a quick trial, but take it as a very serious matter.
[Cheondaeyeop]
We always follow the laws and principles, regardless of ruling or opposition parties.
[Kim Yongmin]
I'm not distinguishing between the ruling party and the opposition party, but I'm telling you not to easily accept what accomplices in the rebellion are saying now. And then... I'm not talking to the MPs who voted for it here. I respect and appreciate the lawmakers who voted in favor, but don't you know that floor leader Choo Kyung-ho dragged his feet at the time? Choo Kyung-ho will say that we will surely punish him as an accomplice in the civil war. And did you come out as the head of the Department of Justice's correctional headquarters? Come to the front. It's my time right now. Listen. Listen if you don't want to admit your accomplice in a civil war. Head of the Correctional Services Department, listen. Now. Listen to how many bad things you did. Shortly after martial law was declared on December 3rd, the Ministry of Justice's correctional headquarters issued an official letter to each detention center. Did you issue an official letter?
[Interview]
Yes.
[Kim Yongmin]
What did you say?
[Interview]
Measures to be taken in case of emergency. Thoroughly manage the punishment...
[Kim Yongmin]
What time did you get off?
[Interview]
The first time I got off it was around 11:25...
[Kim Yongmin]
But I didn't just send an official letter to that extent, but I said it like this. Figure out the living room in case an MP is brought in. There was an order like this, and I'm talking after receiving a report. In fact, it is difficult for the security department staff to check it in person, so the living room manager in charge of designating the living room suddenly went to work around 12 o'clock and found out the room living alone. There's this fact. No?
[Interview]
There's no such thing.
[Kim Yongmin]
Tell me straight.
[Interview]
There's no such thing.
[Kim Yongmin]
It's going to be revealed by an investigation later. All of your men reported it. Listen to me! Listen to me. In this way, I received a report that I was instructed to find out the number and location of the rooms living alone in preparation for the lawmakers being brought here. Is there such a fact or not?
[Interview]
does not exist.
[Kim Yongmin]
I'll investigate that later. And did you have a video conference after that?
[Interview]
The video conference was held for 10 minutes from 1:09.
[Kim Yongmin]
Who did you do it with?
[Interview]
It was targeted at heads of correctional institutions nationwide.
[Kim Yongmin]
Who did it? Did the head of the correctional center do it? What did you talk about?
[Interview]
As I said earlier, it is an emergency, so you have to manage your sentence thoroughly, then you have to establish service discipline, and this was mainly done, but that time was already after the National Assembly passed the resolution to lift the emergency martial law.
[Kim Yongmin]
When the official letter was issued around 11 o'clock, it seemed that the executives of Grade 5 or higher were told to wait for emergency.
[Interview]
At around 12:20, I saw that there was a fifth-degree colonel, whether it was the military or the police, and that there was an emergency response for these people...
[Kim Yongmin]
Please show me the official document that the Ministry of Justice told me to stand by at 11 o'clock for executives of Grade 5 or higher.
[Interview]
I think they said it was level 5 or higher after 12 o'clock.
[Kim Yong-min]
I already sent an official letter like this around 11 o'clock. Of course, we reconstructed this, but we secured an official document.
[Interview]
It's not around 11 o'clock, but I've known it since then.
[Kim Yongmin]
Then why did you tell me to wait for civil servants of Grade 5 or higher?
[Interview]
This is not an emergency call, but it means to wait according to our emergency manual.
[Kim Yongmin]
I told you to wait above level 5, but why did you have the living room staff of level 6 and 7 rush to work and check if they have single rooms or not?
[Interview]
There's no such thing.
[Kim Yongmin]
Didn't you order it yourself?
[Interview]
I never instructed you.
[Kim Yongmin]
Then the head of the detention center must have ordered it.
[Interview]
I don't know about that, but I didn't order it.Don't you know if you did
[Kim Yongmin]
?
[Interview]
That doesn't happen.
[Kim Yongmin]
Then the head of the detention center goes crazy that night...
[Interview]
Which detention center are you talking about?
[Kim Yongmin]
Aren't you trying to find the informant? I won't talk about that. The head of the detention center was the only one who went crazy and ordered to look for a solitary cell because lawmakers could catch him.
[Interview]
Who knows if a member of the National Assembly is caught or not, there is no situation.
[Kim Yongmin]
without the directions of one's superiors Why don't you know at that time? The minister already knew everything, and the president said he would catch the lawmakers now.
[Interview]
I don't have that at all. I can tell you for sure. There's no such thing.
[Chairman]
As chairman of the committee, I would like to say something at the level of order in the conference room. Gentleman to ask here is not an individual question. As a member of the National Assembly of the constitutional institution, please refrain from calling you because I am asking the institution. You can't write it like that. And I also say to Members of the People's Power. When the remarks begin, the chairman should not cut off the remarks as much as possible. In situations where it is physically impossible, I cut off my remarks and give you the right to speak again, but as I have repeatedly said, if I don't like the other lawmaker's remarks, I have told the chairman to listen first and then apply for a proceeding statement. So when you ask a question, listening and yelling and interfering with the question like this are also detrimental to maintaining order. So please refer to that. Do it.
[Cho Bae-sook]
I've always said this while proceeding with the Judiciary Committee, but I think there's a problem with lawmaker Kim Yong-min's remarks. As for declaring martial law, in fact, as the same ruling party, no one really thinks it's wrong, and that's good. But beyond that, he referred to all of our lawmakers as accomplices of rebellion by talking about rebellion now. I think that's going too far. When there is solid evidence, there is no evidence and this is wrong, so they are accomplices of the same civil war because they are in the same group? Then, as a member of this National Assembly, I think it's a little out of character and I need to be careful. In this regard, I hope you will definitely cancel this comment and apologize. That's about it.
[Chairman]
I will answer the proceeding statement because I made the proceeding statement. I'm answering the Democratic Party lawmakers right now. Could you please be quiet?
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