The second summons was notified of the co-operation.Yoon, shall we attend Christmas?

■ Host: anchor Lee Se-na, anchor Cho Jin-hyuk
■ Starring: Choi Chang-ryul, special professor at Yongin University, current affairs critic Park Sang-gyu


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[Anchor]
President Yoon Suk Yeol's recall date, which was announced by the Joint Investigation Headquarters, is three days away. President Yoon sent a second request to attend on the 25th, Christmas Day, but there was no response. Let's take a look at it with Choi Chang-ryul, a special professor at Yongin University, and Park Sang-gyu, a current affairs critic. Please come in. First of all, do you think President Yoon will respond to the request for attendance on the 25th?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
Considering the attitude and behavior of President Yoon Suk Yeol and President Yoon so far, I don't think he will attend on Christmas Day. The defense is saying it's not formed. We'll talk about it later.Ma hasn't received any documents related to the impeachment. As with the impeachment resolution, I am not receiving any notice of receipt of the impeachment motion. There's no reason to go out even though I didn't receive it, due to the problem of the procedure. I think they're trying to delay the impeachment trial anyway. Of course, it's a trial strategy, so you can't blame it, but at least the president made a statement on December 12th.

It's two days before the vote, and I won't shy away from political and legal responsibility. And he said he would fight back confidently, whether it's impeachment or investigation. Then, I'll do that from now on.Ma is different from the Dec. 12 statement, at least in terms of his actions so far. First, I'll file the documents, and don't you know everything? The court and the Constitutional Court are considering considering public service. If it doesn't work, we'll have to see if an arrest warrant is requested and issued. Is it really good to see an arrest warrant issued in this way? In view of this, it seems difficult to avoid criticism, no matter how much it is a trial strategy.

[Anchor]
Does the critic feel the same way?

[Park Sang Kyu]
To put it in a good way, it's a response strategy, and it's actually a delay strategy. Simply put, it's bed soccer. Bed soccer has never been approved by FIFA, but it is a strategy that is recognized. Like Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the Democratic Party of Korea, I can criticize whether it is right, wrong, bad, or good, but I think it can be done from the perspective of the suspect. However, there is a lot of criticism as a strategy that can be taken by the incumbent president, who is suspected of serious civil war-related charges and the head of the civil war. I can't help but tell you this. At the same time, lawyer Seok Dong-hyun and lawyer Lee, who have been in 45 years, continue to hold press conferences for foreign media.

There is an intention to lead the public opinion race. In any case, it seems to include an intention to change the current public opinion landscape, which is quite inclined, to one's advantage. We'll continue the outdoor rally and tell you later.Ma said yesterday that the Gwanghwamun outdoor rally was the largest among all outdoor rallies, regardless of the progressive and conservative parties of the ruling and opposition parties. The police estimate is more than 35,000. What this means is that President Yoon's strategy to lead the landscape to the advantage of the environment is read through these things, but what is important is that the people are not looking at it finely. I'm telling you that.

[Anchor]
You mentioned lawyer Seok Dong-hyun a little while ago, but this lawyer Seok Dong-hyun is not the officially appointed lawyer, right? It says it's advisory. Isn't it a situation where the appointment of the lawyers continues to be delayed now because they are not officially appointed lawyers?

[Park Sang Kyu]
There is no definite answer about whether the lawyers have been appointed or not. Lawyer Seok also said, "It's hard for me to tell you, there will be a day when I will reveal it. Isn't it wrong for the Democratic Party to do so without continuing to speak and giving a senior position? But President Yoon's side seems to be acting as a spokesperson politically. He does not play a role as a lawyer, saying that he does not play a role as a lawyer because the judgment has not begun, nor is it a trial by investigation or prosecution by criminal prosecution, but he did not receive a letter of appointment, and this part is where President Yoon responds to the current situation, so he is a close aide, and he holds a domestic and international conference by thinking about his lawyer. This is the first time everything has happened, so the public is embarrassed, and the Democratic Party of Korea seems to be quite embarrassed, and it seems to be embarrassed. [Anchor]
[Anchor]
You both said that President Yoon will not comply with his Christmas attendance request. However, if the president does not continue to respond, the investigation authorities are now expected to consider issuing an arrest warrant. But isn't there a risk of a conflict with the presidential office's security service during the arrest?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
If that happens, you're saying it on the premise that an arrest warrant was issued. If an arrest warrant is issued, there is no legal basis for rejecting it. No matter how president he is. It's not a different case, but an arrest warrant for it because it's stated as the head of the civil war. But this is the president's authority, and if the president commits a civil war or foreign exchange crime while in office, he will be prosecuted. Therefore, since we don't have legal authority, by then, we're simply going to follow the old words of former President Roh Moo Hyun. That's what happened during the review and the conversation.I don't think Ma will do that. What's the basis for the security? There will be a limit. Anyway, I can understand that you're going to delay the trial and delay the impeachment trial. As a suspect. I criticized it and critic Park Sang-gyu also criticized it, but even so, I reject the arrest warrant issued by the court legally? That's not what the president stands up to. He is completely and simply the lowest-ranking suspect. I hope and hope that there is little possibility of going that far because it is completely far from the statement that he will stand up to impeachment or investigation.

[Park Sang Kyu]
As Professor Choi said on the premise now, it is the premise that the court will issue an arrest warrant. So, it's not a simple process from requesting an arrest warrant to issuing it. First of all, the charges have to be clarified. Many military officials have been arrested on warrants and numerous claims have been reported in the media. Claims, suspicions, and police also secured the former intelligence commander's notebook. But the investigation agency hasn't confirmed what's in the notebook yet. There's a lot of talk. A lawyer and a sorcerer were appointed, and astrology were performed. However, the important issue is that it is difficult to seek an arrest warrant for the head of an incumbent president on charges of rebellion. All the requirements have to be met.

It has to be a calling. And it's very important that the court that received it issues a warrant.
I'm talking about a conflict with the security. We're talking about two steps ahead. I'm not saying that it won't work, I'm saying that there's a long way to go. So, President Yoon knows better than anyone as a legal expert that there is a long way to go, and lawyer Seok Dong-hyun also talks about it. As a legal expert who served as the chief prosecutor of the Central Prosecutor's Office and also as the prosecutor general, the president knows all this and is currently implementing such a delay strategy and response strategy. He said, "I think the public criticism of the likes and dislikes of this is not an issue right now."

[Choi Chang Ryul]
Speaking of lawyer Seok Dong-hyun, I didn't even bring up the arresting body. Then what Kwak Jong-geun, commander of the Special Forces Command, or the first deputy director of the National Intelligence Service said. And several commanders. They're not the same words, but the statements are almost the same. Isn't it the same thing? However, it is good for lawyer Seok Dong-hyun to gather supporters as well as public opinion. I can do it. I don't think it's appropriate for a person who is not a lawyer to do it, but I do it if I do. It's a press conference. How many people would understand that if they said they didn't even bring up their arrest? I don't think that's a good attitude. You can defend your position as much as you want. I'll be your agent from now on.I think such an attitude can lead to a headwind of public opinion.

[Anchor]
The investigation into the president's alleged rebellion is now unified into the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. Until then, traffic seemed to have been organized, but there was a claim that the prosecution's transfer of the case to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit was also the will of President Yoon Suk Yeol. Chung Sung-ho of the Democratic Party argued that it is a strategy to drag on time. How did you hear this?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
I think that's possible. The prosecution unexpectedly transferred to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. The prosecution was very active. You're not supposed to investigate the crime of starting, you know. However, he said he would commit a crime related to it while obstructing the exercise of rights to abuse his authority. Of course, the prosecution's actions seem to be effective and meaningful in their own way because of overlapping investigative agencies, but this can lead to more time. Because the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit can't prosecute. Since we have to move on to the prosecution and deal with it again, there is room for such interpretation, even though I am not talking about the connection between the prosecution and the president. I don't want the prosecution to do that. Probably because of the efficiency of the investigation.

[Park Sang Kyu]
I think the prosecution is using a clever strategy. By preoccupying, the prosecution dispelled the initial suspicion that the prosecution was trying to look after the president, who was the prosecutor general in this area. Kim Yong Hyun, the former defense minister, came to see him on his own.Ma investigated and went to the warrant request stage. I moved quickly.

The prosecution doesn't have a connection, because it's taking steps to give this impression to the people and then jumping here and there. The police collaboration and the national team will jump in, so in the end, there is an investigation controversy and it is unified, so now the ball is turned over. As I said earlier, there are only 15 prosecutors on this part. The reason why they say that there are only 15 prosecutors is that there are more than 60 prosecutors.
But why did you pass it to the side where there were only 15 people? I think we've handed it over because we know most of the information and know that we won't be able to do it properly in the end. We can do it, but we didn't pass it. Try it. I'm passing it over and avoiding public opinion. Why is the prosecution holding on? Why are you not cooperating with the police and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit? You can avoid this criticism a little bit. I passed it. I passed, but the player can't score a goal. I'm not a striker. As I said earlier, I don't have the right to prosecute. What happens then?

After investigating, wouldn't it be possible to do well with only 15 prosecutors? Then I have to pass it over one day. Then you can't do that while taking over? We'll do it for you. This is inevitable, and more importantly, the National Assembly. The National Assembly's special prosecutor for general rebellion is now at stake. Isn't the Democratic Party very active in getting this passed? The National Assembly's permanent special prosecution has already passed and will be launched about a month later. Whether it's a permanent special prosecutor or a general parliamentary special prosecutor, it has to be handed over when it's launched. You have to hand over everything, whether it's an offense and defense or a prosecution. The prosecution is using a very clever strategy. Even though we say we're not trying to cover the president, we know that we have most of the information and we passed it slightly, but we can't finish it over there. That's how I see it.

[Anchor]
You said that the prosecution is using a clever strategy, but as you said, doubts about the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, which has only 15 people, continue to be raised. Will the investigation be able to be conducted properly? What do you think about this?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
I was supposed to do it properly, but all the requests for warrants were rejected. I don't have a track record. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is in charge of the biggest case this time, so we have to risk the organization's fate this time. But I don't have the right to prosecute. Eventually, you'll move on to the prosecution. Anyway, there are 15 people in charge of airlift. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, the National Investigation Headquarters, and the prosecution's investigative agency overla There was a point that procedural problems could be raised later. The prosecution must have been conscious of that, too. There's no reason to have a case. But will the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit be able to do this properly? As you said, the key is the special prosecutor. If the special prosecutor leaves, it will be all over, so the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will know anyway.

[Anchor]
And let's move on to the Constitutional Court. We are preparing for the first hearing of the impeachment trial on the 27th, and the National Assembly's impeachment investigation team has now announced a delegation of 17 lawyers. There was a controversy over former Constitutional Judge Kim Yi-soo among them, who did not start the process of requesting the special counsel's recommendation. So, it is pointed out that this person received an award related to martial law during the May 18th Movement. How do you see this?

[Park Sang Kyu]
I think the Democratic Party made a good point. 5. 18 I think the related award can be a critical flaw. It can be a defect in itself to put such a controversial person while forming a 17-member mammoth prosecutor.
I always tell you about the slightest defect in the process, but you have to follow the deuce process, legal and proper procedure. So the reason why the Constitutional Court is now in such trouble over the delivery issue is that later, of course, the trial is the same. You can make a trial without serving it. There have been trials, and you can do that. However, he didn't want to carry such a procedural defect in the case of alleged rebellion against the incumbent president.

So I hope you get it neatly, but if I tell you about former President Park Geun Hye, it was served in an hour. I got it neatly then. I submitted a response a week later. However, President Yoon Suk Yeol does not seem to have any intention of doing so. If you don't receive it for more than four days and more than five days, it means you won't follow that process. So if you force a trial even though you didn't receive it, you'll go, but you won't from the first day. This has a major flaw. Why did you start the trial with a fierce battle when I didn't receive it? So if I say I can't follow that process, isn't the shape very legal from the beginning?

I think it's a strategy that even looks forward to this. I didn't communicate with President Yoon, but as a reporter, I take all these things into account, so does Kim Yi-soo's selection issue need to be carried with it? Therefore, the Democratic Party of Korea is leading this situation, whether it is an agreement between the ruling and opposition parties if this issue is controversial. There is no reason to carry this, I see it like this.

[Anchor]
I will ask Professor Choi about acting Han Deok-soo. The Democratic Party of Korea claims that it will pursue impeachment unless acting Han Deok-soo receives a special prosecutor for insurrection and Kim Gun-hee's special prosecutor. Do you think you're going to veto it again this time?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
However, the power of the Democratic Party and the people is too strong. Regarding the appointment, isn't the power of the people to appoint a minister? Appoint the Minister of Public Administration and Security and the Minister of Defense. Then do not exercise your veto. This is what the Democratic Party is like. They're only talking about each other from their own point of view. The authority of the acting authority is not accurately defined to what extent. The so-called
is called active exercise of authority and passive exercise of authority, but the Democratic Party of Korea asks to appoint a justice of the Constitutional Court and does not appoint a minister. The power of the people is the opposite. I can't be this bad. So, I think the current situation is that the president is trying to postpone the judgment anyway, and he wants representative Lee Jae-myung's court ruling to come out in the meantime.

On the contrary, Chairman Lee Jae-myung's side is trying to resolve the judicial risk he has by accelerating the presidential election anyway, so the Democratic Party of Korea is rushing and President Yoon seems to delay the trial late. So it makes sense if it fits there. But the problem is that they ask them to appoint what is in their favor, and not to appoint them. Tell them not to appoint anything disadvantageous. This happens, but anyway, I think the answer should be appointed as a constitutional judge. Because it is recommended by the National Assembly, the power of the people argues that the president and the head of state actually do it. So, although the acting president says he shouldn't do it, there are three recommended by the National Assembly, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and the president, and since it is actually recommended by the National Assembly, the consent to appoint the National Assembly comes out, so I think even the acting president can exercise it.

[Anchor]
How do you see the veto?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
It seems like I'm in the position of the Democratic Party of Korea, but the veto power is a special prosecutor for rebellion and a general special prosecutor for Kim Gun-hee. The four agricultural laws and six related to people's livelihoods were vetoed. I don't think the independent counsel, Kim Gun-hee, should exercise his veto power. Since the Constitutional Court's trial is underway now related to the civil war, various investigative agencies are overlapping right now. I've said enough earlier, but from that point of view, there's a possibility that I won't exercise my veto. Acting President Han Deok-soo is suspected of being a suspect in a civil war, so in many ways, I don't think he'll exercise his veto power, but we'll see.

[Anchor]
Let's hear from the critic.

[Park Sang Kyu]
In fact, I think the U.S. position on acting Han Deok-soo is an important variable. First, acting Han Deok-soo has been an ambassador to the United States for three years from 2019, so he has many acquaintances in the United States. Current U.S. Ambassador to the State Department Kurt Campbell also made that point, and Tony Blinken, the current U.S. Secretary of State, spoke to Foreign Minister Cho Tae-yeol yesterday. When I was on the phone, I heard that I fully supported the acting system of Han Deok-soo. The U.S. does not use aspects such as total support. For that reason, I think the United States has issued a certain warning about the impeachment of Acting President Han Deok-soo. That's my interpretation. Therefore, the United States appreciated the resilience of the Korean government, but it restored it to a democratic process.

The opposition party will impeach acting president Han Deok-soo, who is leading the transition period, after impeaching the incumbent president and suspending him from his duties. I think I'm looking at this part in a very uncomfortable way.
So as acting Han Deok-soo, I think he should drag this part until January 1st. It's legally possible. Then we still have time until January 1st. You'll have thought it through. The opposition is talking about three things. Special Prosecutor Kim Gun-hee Act, National Assembly Special Prosecutor for Civil War, and additional appointments of Constitutional Court judges. These three are the current Democratic Party and. You have to do all three. But I think there's a strategic consideration.

If you want all of this, what would you do if an agent touched one? They are also in a embarrassing position. However, if you impeach, Deputy Prime Minister Choi Sang-mok will receive it according to the law. Then, what kind of frame can appear is that there's a frame called arrogant. Is the Democratic Party leader already president now? Isn't that too much? These things are burdensome. So, I'd like acting Han Deok-soo to listen to them, but Han is straightforward. He rejected the six laws for now. The Democratic Party seems to be jumping at first, but it seems to be accepting. That's fine. But I won't stand it if you touch the second Maginot Line and the red line. It's like that. Which one is the piano string among the three I mentioned? Are you going to impeach me if I touch all of them, two of them or one of them? I think there is a part where this strategic consideration can be read. But I think Han will consider it until December 31st. It's legally possible. But this is some women's college entrance examination, but it means that they will not come to a conclusion next week and do the confirmation hearing on the 23rd and 24th in groups of three.

Furthermore, the two constitutional judges recommended by the Democratic Party will be divided into morning and afternoon, and only lawyers recommending people's strength will do this all day long. As I said before, why are the Democratic Party of Korea half-day, half-day, and half-day, half-day, and one day for KBS President Park Jang-soo and Korea Communications Commission Chairman Lee Jin-sook? I can see that the Democratic Party of Korea is complicated and quite embarrassed because I wonder if they will criticize this.

[Choi Chang Ryul]
I think acting Han Deok-soo will consider that variable.From a normative point of view, I think Ma should do it. I don't think you should exercise your veto. We'll see later if the special prosecutor's office is guilty of rebellion or not, but it's a criminal law. It's the place where you go with the impeachment. It means that we should conduct an independent counsel in a situation where various evidences are coming out. There are several different investigative agencies. So, I think it's right to do it normatively when acting president Han Deok-soo is in this critical situation as an acting president. The same goes for Mrs. Kim Gun-hee. There is a lot of public opinion that Kim Gun-hee should receive an independent counsel.

Mrs. Kim Gun-hee has been cleared of any charges.E, Deutsche Motors stock price manipulation case. Anyway, many people have doubts about this. Some people don't. If you veto this special prosecutor, the Democratic Party can attack you like that. You also give me a justification to attack me as an assistance crime. In my view, there is a possibility that acting Han Deok-soo will not exercise his veto power in both normative and practical terms. I don't know. There's dynamics within the passport, so that's a different issue.

[Park Sang Kyu]
In addition to that, I can take the appointment of a constitutional judge until next year if I predict it. He said he'd think about it a little more. And the two special prosecutors will receive it, especially if they don't get a special prosecutor for a rebellion, because they will be criticized by the public. Kim Gun-hee clearly states that there is an unconstitutional element of the Special Prosecutor's Act, so when you look at your actions, you can consider rejecting this. So, we will have a fierce battle with the Democratic Party while doing a case-by-case.
However, acting Han Deok-soo himself is the last public office. From my point of view, I'm not very afraid of getting impeached once, having served as prime minister twice and acting president. Because I said this, I don't think the Democratic Party will listen to everything as it wishes.

[Anchor]
It means that some people are likely to veto it.

[Park Sang Kyu]
And I'm going to drag it out.

[Anchor]
The situation within the ruling party of people's power is also very confusing due to this incident. After the resignation of former representative Han Dong-hoon, the people's power started to appoint the emergency committee chairman. The conflict between Chin-yoon and Bi-yoon is rising. Let's listen to the related remarks.

[Anchor]
Who will head the emergency committee of the People's Power? Kim Ki-hyun, Kwon Young-se, and Na Kyung-won are mentioned as candidates, what do you think?

[Choi Chang-ryul]
I know that all three of you are so senior and capable, but it's unfortunate to talk about changes in the people's power and changes and innovations now, regardless of who takes charge of them. Aren't these people who opposed impeachment anyway? Then, a significant number of the people are in favor of impeachment. Can the power of the people show a change? And also, aren't these people with strong friendly colors? The president is currently suspended from his duties. Politically, if the power of the people is about to be reborn, I can't help but tell you whether it would be right for them to be born. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with each of these people, but how the public will perceive it in general.

[Anchor]
And since the acting party leader is Kwon Sung-dong, everyone has a strong pro-yoon color.

[Choi Chang Ryul]
Rep. Kwon Sung-dong is also the core of pro-yoon. I don't use the word Yoon nuclear officer, but the originator of Yoon nuclear officer was lawmaker Kwon Sung-dong. Representative Na Kyung-won did not. Kwon Young-se is a lawmaker who is classified as pro-yoon. I think Na Kyung-won is too distant from the public sentiment of our people, seeing what she's saying these days. As far as I know, Na Kyung-won wasn't that bad. In my personal opinion, these three are not fit for the power of the people.

[Anchor]
What do you think, critic?

[Park Sang Kyu]
When I look at the power of the people these days, I used to say a lot that the power of the people was the Galapagos against the Democratic Party. The power of the people has become the Galapagos these days. That's a bad meaning. Because in Galapagos, there is no interaction with the outside world and they don't listen to outside public sentiment. I don't tell you the figures of the Gallup poll here, but the party's approval rating is halved, recording a double score, and no one is following Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the Democratic Party of Korea, in the next presidential election, and far from following him, everything has been reduced to acorns. If this is the case, you have to feel a huge crisis.

Let alone the re-creation of the government, there should be such a sense of crisis that it will be wiped out in the next election and local elections, but I can't read it at all. In this situation, the younger generations are criticizing the party's leadership or the chairman of the emergency committee because they are saying that a person who voted for impeachment cannot be the party leader or the chairman of the emergency committee. That's why the name of former Gyeonggi Governor Nam Kyung-pil, who has already left the party and is campaigning against drugs, came out, and the name of former lawmaker Hong Jung-wook in Act 7, the famous Act 7, came out. Now, the name of former lawmaker Yoo Seung Min is coming out. Why don't you put forward first-term lawmaker Kim Jae-sup? I think you need to show this kind of fierce concern. By the way, the names of the three senior lawmakers are still up and down, and how many days has it been since they have not been able to unify their opinions?

From the perspective of those who support the ruling party, given that they do not recognize that the power of the party and the last spark against the party are being extinguished amid this situation. . So, you have to read the approval rating like this. It's halved, and more than 30% are wait-and-see. The supporters are not going to the Democratic Party or representative Lee Jae-myung. The supporters are reserving their support. You can come back according to the following. But if we do this, it will not come back forever, and among them, it will really turn to democratizing or supporting representative Lee Jae-myung. That's what I think.

[Anchor] You said
Galapagos. Since we're far away from each other, there are voices saying that outsiders should do it. Member for Yoo Seung Min is also being discussed. What do you think?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
Yoo Seung Min Will you bear to be a former congressman? How many are there now? Representative Ahn Cheol Soo was nominated in March this year, and in fact, the presidential office told him to resign. CEO Lee Jun-seok was kicked out before that. He was suspended from party membership. Han Dong-hoon became the emergency committee chairman in December last year and became the party leader after the general election, with 63 percent. But he was ousted in five months. Former lawmaker Yoo Seung Min has been divided with President Park Geun Hye since then, saying that welfare without tax increases in 2015 is a fiction with reform ideas. Would you speak for the people? Aren't you still very involved in the impeachment trial of the Constitutional Court? Then, even if former lawmaker Yoo Seung Min became the chairman of the emergency committee, the core of this party seems to be the pro-yoon mainstream.

I'm saying that if they change their thoughts and know what the times are, there's no problem, but no matter who becomes it, it's meaningful. I'm going to kick him out again. The power of the people right now may be traumatized by impeachment. However, on the contrary, I didn't lose because of the impeachment of the Park Geun Hye then and now, but I lost because it didn't change after that, in the presidential election. I don't know why you don't know that. Even if conservatives are impeached, there are many aspects where the power of the people is newly born and representative Lee Jae-myung is now gaining reflective profits. There are a lot of judicial risks. Then, if one side steps down, there could be public opinion about what Lee Jae-myung did well. They don't try to get support from the people because they change and start anew, but somehow they go toward being pro-yoon, so the voters in the middle can go to Lee Jae-myung as critic Park Sang-kyu said. I think they're thinking wrong. I'm telling you that the perception is not changing.

[Park Sang Kyu]
What worries me is that YTN also reported that today, and Shinsegae Chairman Chung Yong-jin met with Trump for 10-15 minutes. I think it's a very big news. It's also embarrassing news. There are about five members of the special parliamentary delegation selected by the chairman of the National Assembly, but I don't know that in the United States, Rep. Park Ji-won is an immigrant and sends it there.

With this kind of diplomacy, Japan's Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba is holding a summit with the mediation of the former prime minister's wife. As the nation's trade and economy are in a mess due to rising waves, the ruling and opposition parties say, "The incumbent president is impeached, or whether to appoint an additional justice to the Constitutional Court. How will the public feel about this year-end holiday?" Then, did Chairman Chung Yong-jin entrust all diplomacy with the U.S. to Korea? I thought about this. It's good that the ruling and opposition parties fight. You can fight fiercely for power. However, the people do not feel the holiday atmosphere at all, and today's weather is getting colder even though it is cold. At this time, I want to point out that we should do politics that gives hope to the people.

[Anchor]
Chairman Chung Yong-jin said he will return home this afternoon, and we will have to see what kind of conversation he had. We don't have much time left, so let's talk about Myung Taekyun. Myung Tae-kyun's golden phone. It's also a health expert. There's Jeon's phone. There is even a Bodhisattva phone of former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won, and what kind of political impact do you think the recorded files that will come out of these phones?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
In particular, isn't it that former commander Roh Sang-won's notebook has also been found? What's written on it hasn't come out yet. There are reports that a practitioner of martial law has gone. I don't even understand the story of Monk Geonjin. Since the current administration, there has been a lot of talk about reverse tactics. I think a lot of suspicions and surprises can come out there. There are a lot of suspicions about Myung Tae-kyun's intervention in the nomination. It's a suspicion. A lot of things to talk about on this phone. When these things start to be linked to impeachment, it's a separate matter.I don't think I can control it.
We need to cut it out quickly. So, we have to do an independent counsel and cut it out, so we have to start anew. There may or may not be an early presidential election. Early presidential elections are not yet guaranteed that impeachment should be cited. With the possibility of an early presidential election increasing, both ruling and opposition parties need to be sorted out.

[Anchor]
Finally, I will ask the critic this question. Chun-gong, Geon-jin-beop, Myeong-tae-gyun, and former commander Roh Sang-won are also known to have run fortune tellers, but they continue to be intertwined with shamanism in this administration. What do you think of this phenomenon?

[Park Sang-gyu]
It's embarrassing. Anyway, it's a name that the media calls.Ma is like a Buddhist phone, a dosa phone, and a golden phone. These are names that make your face flutter. Does that make any sense? Of course, I think the investigative agency should properly forensics and then cut out all the details to find out the facts in detail. You have to investigate it thoroughly. There is a record that such a shaman, who was called Muryeong-gun during King Gojong's reign, tilted the country greatly. I think it's so pathetic that it reminds me of that.

[Anchor]
Things that I really hope are not real are being revealed, and I hope the country will find stability as soon as possible. So far, we've been talking with Choi Chang-ryul, a special professor at Yongin University, and Park Sang-gyu, a current affairs critic. Thank you both.