Han Deok-soo was so excited about Kim Yong-hyun's testimony... "Evidence Day" Truth Workshop [Y Record]

■ Host: Anchor Park Seok-won, Anchor Um Ji-min
■ Starring: Lee Jong-geun, current affairs critic, Seo Yong-ju, head of the Political and Social Research Institute

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◇ Anchor> Yesterday, former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's press conference said a lot of stories that seemed to supplement legal issues. Isn't one of them that former Minister Kim reported the emergency martial law to Prime Minister Han Deok-soo in advance? However, Prime Minister Han Deok-soo's office immediately refuted the claim, saying, "It is not true." How should this truth battle be interpreted?

◆Lee Jong-geun> It's a bit of a dilemma. It's ironic. In fact, both cannot exist at the same time. For example, the minister made a suggestion, but the suggestion is not made directly to the president. When any minister makes a proposal, it is made through the Prime Minister, who is the head of the Cabinet. This is the same for emergency martial law. According to the martial law law, the minister, the minister of the Ministry of Public Administration and Security, and the minister of defense, make a proposal, and the prime minister reports it. However, the problem is that if this does not work, the requirements are not established. "There is a procedural defect." But if it is actually reported, it is one of the reasons for the impeachment, which is that the acting president, the prime minister, did not immediately oppose it, or did not do it to the minister, even though he received a suggestion, which is one of the reasons for the impeachment.

So, from the standpoint of acting authority now, no, I didn't receive any suggestions, and from the minister's point of view, I did it through the prime minister as it was according to the martial law law, but when this conflicted, Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun spoke more specifically. I think I thought about how to satisfy both sides. So the story that came out was not officially suggested by the reporting line, but just before the meeting, that is, the Cabinet meeting. I was just saying it, but the suggestion is actually a bit of a formality. That's why I said that, but it wasn't an official suggestion, so I kind of took a step back with this kind of expression.

◇Anchor> Is that much of a shoe report effective?

◆Lee Jong-geun> Well, this is a legal requirement, but it's actually a formal requirement. The president has no idea about martial law before that, but the defense minister makes a suggestion and the prime minister receives it? This isn't really like that. So isn't this martial law at least two ministers involved in that kind of security? Secretary of Defense and Minister of the Interior and Safety. So, it is a formal requirement for the minister to suggest that there are disturbances or riots. So this is the definitive defect, legally. It's too much to judge like this, I personally think like this.

◇ Anchor> What do you think of the part that clearly drew the line with former commander Roh? Isn't there a possibility that former commander Roh could make a rebuttal statement about former Minister Kim Yong-hyun drawing a line with him right away from the standpoint of being investigated?

◆ Seo Yong-ju> First of all, the fact that I saw it with concern yesterday seemed to be that former Minister Kim Yong-hyun had the idea to cover it all up. So, while keeping apart from President Yoon Suk Yeol, Roh Sang-won simply served as his advisor, and President Yoon Suk Yeol does not know. There are so many terrible things in Roh Sang-won's martial law notebook. And there are a lot of things that have been done. From the blockade of the National Assembly to the arrest to the death, it's a terrible fact for us. Then, when the Senate and President Yoon Suk Yeol are connected, they are very disadvantageous in the investigation and impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol. That's why I think they separated it for now. So, Kim Yong-hyun said, "Roh Sang-won is within my boundary, and if the investigation goes further later, Kim Yong-hyun and Roh Sang-won will take the lead, and this is the part where President Yoon Suk Yeol tried to end the curfew in martial law, and he didn't tell us to block lawmakers from entering, so the two of us knew this and the president didn't know. I think I've responded with this logic."

But the laws of the Republic of Korea are not that easy. And I can't believe everything Kim Yong-hyun says. Do our law enforcement agencies or investigative agencies trust criminals 100%? Criminals deny everything and refute everything. In that respect, if the evidence comes out one by one, this logic will be broken. First of all, the relationship between President Yoon Suk Yeol and Kim Yong-hyun is tied up, as I mentioned earlier. That's why the president of Yoon Suk Yeol restricts two things in the process of impeachment trial. It's an act of governance. In the Constitutional Court's judgment that the substantive requirements for the first martial law were not met, this is an act of governance. Second, the Constitutional Court is now looking at whether Prime Minister Han Deok-soo has gone through procedural legitimacy and procedures for the Cabinet meeting. I just presented that part as well. We have done this through the Prime Minister. Then, we talked about the substantive requirements judged by the first Constitutional Court. Second, since he also talked about procedural legitimacy, it seems that Kim Yong-hyun is claiming to be a lawyer for Yoon Suk Yeol.

◇ Anchor> But as you said, if former Minister Kim Yong-hyun tries to cover up the actions of Yoon Suk Yeol Yoon Seok-yeol, what is it for?

◆ Seo Yongjoo>
First of all, he may be loyal, but he may want to be Chun Doo-hwan's intestinal fibrillation. That's why he thinks of it as heroism. And later, for example, criminals don't give up any hope. If President Yoon Suk Yeol, who is still the leader in the act of rebellion, is kept alive, there will be hope for them to live in the future. I'm thinking of such a shallow number, but I don't think the legal system of the Republic of Korea and the public sentiment of the people will allow this.

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: Lee Sun Digital News Team Editor

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