Ahn Cheol Soo "We need a re-decision on the impeachment bill of the 尹, but I will vote for it."

[YTN radio news fighting]

□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15-09:00)
□ Broadcasting date and time: January 8, 2025 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Kim Woo-sung PD
□ Castor: Kim Ahn Cheol Soo, National Power of the People (phone)

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◆ PD Kim Woo-sung (hereinafter referred to as Kim Woo-sung): Yes, the political situation is more confusing and difficult after the 12.3 emergency martial law incident. Where should I go? Is there any more wisdom here that the people can understand? Let me connect you to Ahn Cheol Soo, a member of the People's Power, and ask you about the related story. How are you, Senator?

◇ Member for the Power of the People of Ahn Cheol Soo (hereinafter referred to as the Ahn Cheol Soo): Yes, how are you?

◆ Kim Woo-sung: The National Assembly's impeachment investigation team will exclude the criminal rebellion from the reason for President Yoon's impeachment. Instead, I will only deal with constitutional violations. I said this, but excluding impeachment, this is deceiving the people. They criticized me like this. What is it about?

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: Yes, actually, the impeachment motion was passed by the National Assembly, right? Then, it is correct to hand it over to the Constitutional Court. Then, the Constitutional Court judges on its own, determines which items are constitutional violations and which items are legal violations, and decides that they are constitutional violations. That's the original process. It is not appropriate for the prosecution member to arbitrarily remove this from the National Assembly. This should be left to the Constitutional Court, and some of them point out that they did wrong in the past and say they should follow it this time, but if there is something wrong in the past, are you following it? Isn't it wrong and lacking in development? So I think the Democratic Party of Korea is in a bit of a hurry to get the impeachment trial of President Yoon out as soon as possible before the ruling of Representative Lee Jae-myung.

◆ [Kim Woo-sung] Now there's still breaking news about this. While saying that mentioning the rebellion is an evaluation and not as a specific reason for the prosecution, the Constitutional Court has also expressed its position now. The judge has organized that it is for the court to decide on its own, but some argue that it should be re-decided within the power of the people now. What do you think?

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: If you formally withdraw the crime of rebellion, that's something you can think about. In fact, these are very inappropriate Democratic actions. In fact, even if it is excluded, isn't this illegal martial law itself contrary to the constitution? So, even if the illegal experience fails, it cannot be passed on to something that has never happened. That's the state system. That's why the Constitution has to be ruled by the Constitutional Court. That idea remains the same.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Then, even if we re-decided, we can interpret it as saying that the lawmaker's vote is fixed, right?

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: Yes, for me, there are two things that remain the same, to put it roughly. First of all, President Yoon declared an emergency martial law, but if you look at the Constitution, it is actually Article 77. The emergency decree can be declared during wartime, events, or national emergencies. But is that really the case? We need to consider that. Next, the second is to notify the National Assembly. Therefore, the provisions of the law allow the administration or the judiciary to pass the National Assembly and lift it from the National Assembly, even if it is possible to limit its authority. There is a problem with the decree itself that prohibits this, so I think the Constitutional Court should consider this as well.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: The action of the parliament, which represents the four people, asking for the judgment of the people, is an important procedure, and that's also missing.

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: So it's actually a better way for me to take that responsibility and resign voluntarily after this happens to the president. So, when you voluntarily resign, I hope you can decide the timing and do it in some way and establish a national neutral cabinet so that you can run the state affairs stably. I really hoped for such an orderly resignation, but didn't you reject it in the public statement? So it was actually the next best thing for me. He chose impeachment as the next best option.

◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. You criticized the Democratic Party's intentions earlier. They said, "These are actions with the trial of representative Lee Jae-myung in mind," but in the Democratic Party of Korea, the impeachment trial continues to be the impeachment trial, and the trial against representative Lee Jae-myung is only the trial of representative Lee Jae-myung. They claim that it's separated and it's not a big deal. What do you think?

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: Just follow the law as it is. Representative Lee Jae-myung's trial is called the 633 principle, and the election law trial is supposed to end within one year within six months of the first trial, two months, and three months of the final judgment to the Supreme Court. But I broke the first trial. It took two years and two months. However, from now on, the first trial ended on November 15, so the second trial should be held on February 15, and then the final judgment should be made on May 15. I actually don't promise to abide by the Constitution when the President first declares it, right? That's the most important thing. Then, the presidential candidate should make that promise to protect the constitution before the people.

◆ [Kim Woo-sung] Yes, I see. In the midst of this, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit reissued the warrant for President Yoon's arrest and extended the expiration date. When the first arrest warrant was executed, the eyes and ears of the world were focused, but this time, I will succeed with my last determination. There is also this expression, but there seems to be criticism that you know what you are doing right toward the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. How are you looking at the situation?

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: Yes, there is actually a bit of confusion in the process of adjusting the investigative rights of the prosecution and police, so it has not been properly organized. Since the law is important anyway, the police have the right to investigate rebellion. It's not in the airlift. So, didn't the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the police set up a joint investigation headquarters to avoid that? However, if the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit takes the lead in this, it will be a concern about national division and a problem for a long time, even if any arrests are made later from the perspective of procedural legitimacy. So I think it's right for the police to lead this from now on to get rid of this controversy.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: The police should lead the way. Yes, I see. There shouldn't be any conflict, but the aspect that Ahn Cheol Soo first mentioned his orderly resignation during this emergency situation would also be stabilizing the state of affairs, but rather than trying to forcefully recruit people and colliding, how should I say this even if the police lead the way? Now that the barricades are in place and the barbed wire is in this situation, would there be any recommendations on how to take the solution and if you talk to President Yoon on the phone, please do this.

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: There are two reasons why I'm currently playing Barkate. So, there is a point that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit leads by breaking the law. And secondly, because of that item in the warrant, which makes exceptions to Article 110 and 111 of the Criminal Code. So, the first problem is that the police can lead, and then the second problem, didn't you point out the problem of this warrant to the Supreme Court? Then, if the court makes a judgment, I think I can do it accordingly.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: We need to make up for the controversial issue of various complementary points in the law. He said he could do that, but now the security agency says he can't give up the president's whereabouts anyway. There are also talks about armoured vehicles and helicopters.

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: In the end, I think that's because of those legal deficiencies and I believe that if these two legal deficiencies are resolved, the security service will no longer be so tough.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Is the authority of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit certain? Police lead. And Articles 110 and 111 exceptions to military protection or secret zones. Change this, too. Once this is resolved, the door can be opened. That was your judgment. Anyway, because of this situation, about 40 members of the People's Power were known as 44 people, but they went to their official residence. At the party level, we are continuing to draw the line. They say it's the personal judgment of the lawmakers, but why is that?

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: There is a group chat room where everyone from the party gathered. But even if I look at it, the leadership has never ordered it, and there has never been a member of Congress leading the way like this. They are all actions based on their judgment as constitutional institutions. However, I'm a little concerned that this might be seen as defending martial law, pro-Yoon-dang. In fact, if that happens, it will not be possible to prevent Lee Jae-myung from taking power, and it will be impossible for our party to take power. I would like to say that I am very concerned about that.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Regarding this, I think former lawmaker Yoo Seung Min appeared on our program and interpreted the behavior of these 44 lawmakers in this way. He criticized that it is going toward the behavior of the Yeongnam United Liberal Democrats. So, if it becomes a little minority and only a specific region is represented, I think you pointed it out because of the disadvantage of the election mentioned earlier. How do you see the expression?

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: Well, that's understandable, but isn't it an important responsibility to be a member of the National Assembly, not only in that area, but also in determining the fate of the whole country? So they are the kind of people who think deeply about what direction the country is going in. So, I think the more important issue is how we can prevent Lee Jae-myung from taking power and we can take power because they are not just those people who only consider the advantages and disadvantages of the region.

◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. Let me ask you briefly about your approval rating. The public's support rate, which has fallen a little since the emergency martial law crisis, is also recovering rapidly. In addition, controversy and opposition accusations are continuing, but the president's approval rating, which was surveyed by an agency, is now suspended, but this 40% record is also drawing attention. Do you think there is a change in the flow? Gentleman?

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: Yes, if there is a change in the flow, maybe it is because of the arrogance of the Lee Jae-myung Democratic Party. What I mean is that the Democratic Party of Korea is not interested in this state administration, and it caused anger among conservatives because of the abuse of impeachment and the deletion of the rebellion by the Constitutional Court. In fact, there is a side that is self-fulfilling. That doesn't mean that the president's emergency martial law itself is justified. Rather, at times like this, don't you think the government and the ruling party stabilize the state of affairs and focus on the economy of people's livelihoods, thereby building the trust of the people, and the second Trump administration will be launched soon? Looking at it now, he said that as soon as it was launched, he would release forty one policies. It's a great opportunity for us to show that we're capable in something like this because we're well prepared. So I think it's what we have to do to win the people's hearts in this way.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, you talked about the cause of the situation that is going up in favor of public opinion and how to be loved more. In other words, in the current situation, it was not because the people's power was good, but because they hated the behavior of the Democratic Party of Korea and Representative Lee Jae-myung. Is that how you see it?

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: There are two things that overlap right now. So, isn't it too much for the Democratic Party to do it? Isn't it the Democratic Party that created an unprecedented system of acting impeachment? So I think the people's anxiety about these parts had a very big impact.

◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. The notice came out that there will probably be a vote again today. Insurrection is the so-called Bilateral Special Prosecutors Act of Special Prosecutor Kim Gun-hee, and the party theory is known as the rejection party theory, but how do you judge and what will happen?

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: Yes, first of all, my position remains unchanged. We will have the same vote as before. Among them, I opposed the Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act last time. But the reason for that was much more backward than the other person who came up just before. So, the scope of the investigation was originally two, but it increased to 15. In addition, the special prosecutor's recommendation was first made by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, but this time, the Democratic Party and the main opposition party recommended it from the beginning. So, the most important thing is to grasp the truth fairly, but if it is biased to one side and results like this, who would believe it? So I'm going to disagree with that.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, yes. Are you in a different position on the independent counsel law for civil war?

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: Yes, I'm afraid we'll be seen as the martial law advocacy party when it comes to the independent counsel law. And on the other hand, the investigation is currently underway, so no matter how much the special prosecutor conducts, the investigation will be almost completed by then. So it doesn't affect the big trend. That's how I judge it.

◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. The truth to be revealed must be revealed with procedural legitimacy. He keeps emphasizing this. The conflict between the medical community and the government over medical school quotas has continued for a very long time now. People around me say a lot, but this is the people's words to finish quickly, whether the government changes its position or the medical community changes its position. What do you think?

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: Yes, actually, that Yoon Suk Yeol government's health care reform plan should be completely blanked. In addition, it is correct to create a parliamentary consultative body between the ruling and opposition parties and quickly take special measures. Isn't this a matter of people dying and living? However, if you look at the current phenomenon, local medical care essential medical care is rather collapsing now. There are excess deaths coming out. If this had not happened, more than 2,000 people would not have died. In addition, the government's finances have been spent several trillion won, and as you can see when you go to our hospital, the medical situation has worsened. And there are 300 doctors this year, not 3,000. And now there are no specialists, so there are no interns, public health doctors, or military officers. It's almost the worst state in Korean constitutional history. So now, we have created such a consultative body quickly and selected it in the future. How to educate new students and because they have to pass the doctor's notice later on. I hope that the medical reform will be carried out comprehensively on what to do to make it pass and how to revitalize essential medical care and local medical care for doctors.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, I think you're saying that it's the life of the people of proper medical reform. I wonder if such a decision will be possible under the acting system because it is the acting system of Choi Sang-mok. Please say a few words.
◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: I think we need to do it as soon as possible. What is more important than the problem of living is the problem of dying and living. That's why we need to reform health care first. I'd like to say this.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Even the acting system should do the problem of dying and living right away. That's what you said. Thank you for your words today.

◇ Ahn Cheol Soo: Yes, thank you.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: I was a member of the People's Power Ahn Cheol Soo.