"Arrest warrant doesn't fit the national character"...an order for the mobilization of 1,000 detectives.

■ Host: Anchor Lee Ha-rin, anchor Jeong Jin-hyung
■ Starring: Attorney Kim Kwang-sam, YTN Social Affairs Reporter Baek Jong-gyu

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[Anchor]
Park Jong-joon, the head of the Presidential Security Service, attended the police after the third summons and claimed that the arrest warrant was not suitable for national qualification.

In addition, he submitted his resignation during the police attendance process, and as previously informed, acting Choi Sang-mok accepted his resignation today. Police officers gathered at the National Investigation Headquarters amid a full mobilization order for 1,000 detectives in the Seoul metropolitan area ahead of the second arrest. Let's take a closer look at the contents with Baek Jong-kyu, a reporter from the Ministry of Social Affairs, and Kim Kwang-sam, a lawyer. Welcome.

Just a moment ago, I broke the news, but the presidential security chief made an unusual video public statement while claiming to be a presidential escort, but suddenly he resigned.

[Reporter]
That's right. The Ministry of Economy and Finance said it immediately submitted a letter of resignation and accepted it. First of all, Kim Sung-hoon, deputy head of the security service, is expected to take over as the acting head of the security service. But tomorrow, the police issued a third summons to Deputy Chief Kim to attend by 2 p.m. and be investigated. For this reason, attention is being paid to whether Deputy Chief Kim will comply with the police summons.

[Anchor]
In fact, in the case of the security chief, didn't he even make an entrance through a video? So I think very few people expected the resignation letter, did you expect it, lawyer?

[Kim Kwang Sam]
I didn't have a budget at all. Furthermore, there were many predictions that there is a very high possibility of not responding to the police summons at 10 o'clock today. But if you suddenly say you're going to attend, you have to risk an emergency arrest when you attend. Then, I wondered if it was possible to coordinate with the police and be investigated without going to an emergency arrest, but as a result, it is supposed to submit a resignation letter and then come to be investigated. So today's attention should be paid to the fact that we should look at the part of whether or not to be arrested urgently after investigating today, but I think that part will be very important. Because as the anchor said earlier, didn't he show a strong will when he made a statement about the people even in the video?

And pointing out the various legal problems of the current arrest itself. But he said he submitted his resignation. Wouldn't he have resigned in the end because he thought it was not right to keep protecting the president while serving as the security chief? So perhaps this itself is a little less likely to be fraudulent when it comes to matters related to fraud from the perspective of those guarding the presidential residence. And once he came out to the police and issued a letter of resignation, he must have reported it to President Yoon Suk Yeol about that. And after that, I'm sure it was all about who would be in charge of the security service and who would control it.

So tomorrow, I summoned Kim Sung-hoon, the deputy head of the security service, and I think we need to see if he responds to this summons or not. If you don't respond, the security agency's position itself is very determined, you can see it like this. I think it's usually like that in the police. Today, Park Jong-joon will probably be the former chief of the department. I don't think former Chief Park Jong-joon will attend today, so I apply for an arrest warrant today and get it issued, and I don't think Kim Sung-hoon, the deputy head of the security service, will come tomorrow, so I'll get an arrest warrant, and then the head of the safety management department, right? He would have made a plan to enter the Hannam-dong residence with an arrest warrant after being issued like that. But in a way, it could be seen as being caught off guard. Otherwise, it may be easier to enter the official residence and execute an arrest warrant because the tower of the control tower has disappeared once you have submitted your resignation letter.

[Anchor]
Director of Security Park Jong-joon, as you said, attended the police today. At the same time, he expressed his position that the investigation process appropriate to the current presidential status should proceed, and I will listen to the related recordings first and continue with the interview.

[Park Jong-joon / Director of Presidential Security: I think the investigation process should be carried out suitable for the current presidential status. I don't think it's the current procedure for executing arrest warrants. I hope that the investigation process will proceed appropriately to the president in accordance with Korea's national prestige. If the police refuse to be summoned by the police and not investigated, who in the people will be investigated by the police? I think we should respect the police's status as an investigative agency. (Why are you blocking it when it's properly issued? ) There are many legal theories about it, so I will tell you during the investigation. ]

[Anchor]
He was summoned by the police at 10 a.m. today, but I think he had already submitted his resignation or was scheduled to do so soon. They said they submitted their resignation through the secretary's office this morning. I think the writing was all prepared. He claimed that the execution of the arrest warrant for Yoon was wrong and said that he did not fit the current presidential position. What does it mean?

[Reporter]
It seems that inside and outside the police thought that Director Park Jong-joon refused to comply with the investigation, or that he was late in appointing a lawyer to coordinate his attendance schedule, or that he was responding to the third final request for attendance. However, at the last minute, I appointed a lawyer to respond to the final request for attendance. At the same time, he stressed that the investigation process suitable for the current presidential status should proceed. He said that it is not the current procedure for executing arrest warrants, and that he hopes the appropriate investigation process will proceed to the president in accordance with the national character of Korea. It came out in the question earlier. What do you think about the legally issued arrest warrant, there are many legal theories, he said he would say during the investigation. So, comprehensively, it seems that he sent a message that the execution of the second arrest warrant was unfair while responding to the third appearance of President Yoon Suk Yeol.

[Anchor]
It was also said that it was a statement suggesting that they would not cooperate.

The word "national dignity" came out, so what kind of investigation is there that fits the national dignity?

[Reporter]
I think all investigations that fit the national dignity are included in this content. It is not right to take the president to an investigative agency and investigate him as if he were arrested by an investigative agency. It seems to be to inform that the execution of the arrest warrant is unfair.

[Anchor]
I also expressed my thoughts on issuing an arrest warrant, lawyer. There will be a legal debate, it seems like a logic like Yoon's lawyers, but what should I say?

[Kim Kwang Sam]
The president's side kept saying that. The investigation agency is competitively investigating, so it's all over the place. And aren't we three investigative agencies right now? They are the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, the prosecution, and the police, but they think that the police are the only ones who have the authority to investigate the president's rebellion. However, the first one was that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit did not have the authority to investigate. It doesn't make sense to arrest the president by an agency that doesn't have the authority to investigate. In addition, obtaining an arrest warrant is not legally appropriate.

Second, in principle, you have to request an arrest warrant from the Central District Court, but you are raising a strong objection to the fact that you filed an expedient request with the Western District Court. So I can't respond because it's not legal, that's the premise. As reporter Baek pointed out earlier, whether it is investigative or appropriate for the current presidential status, this story itself is very unacceptable to the president right now. In the process of dragging, for example, you can handcuff him, you can do a rope, and of course, it may depend on how the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit responds, but I think the president doesn't want to show that.

That's probably why the security agency responds so strongly. So these two. I can't accept this because there is a legal problem and then the police come and forcefully arrest the president, and this is not national dignity, and from the president's point of view, my authority as a president is ruined. So if we execute the arrest warrant, we will fight to the end. I think this message is hidden in it.

[Anchor]
In the end, he claimed that there are many problems with the arrest warrant for the president, but he said he respects the status of the police. What does this mean?

[Kim Kwang Sam]
I think it was. I'm sure you've had a lot of meetings and thought a lot about it internally. Because if you hold out until the end, will you be able to prevent the execution of this arrest warrant? If you don't appear today, if you don't comply with the summons, you'll bring an arrest warrant. Then, will he be able to continue protecting the president when he is arrested on the spot? After that, I think the head of the security has a lot of psychological concerns as well, considering that he submitted his resignation letter and came to the police today. So you used to be a police officer, didn't you? And the police said earlier that it was your home. Then, from your point of view, the police will eventually take the lead in executing the second arrest warrant.

Then what would I do with the police as a former police officer? Last time, it was a one-on-one hard-line response with the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, but this time, he was a former police officer, but he stopped the police when the police investigation came, and it is likely that this was the biggest concern among his concerns. So, I probably asked the president for his understanding, saying, "I can't fight with the police because I used to be a police officer, and in a way, there shouldn't be any physical conflict with the police, so I'll leave." Then, as a result, I think the level of response of the security will be determined depending on whether Kim Sung-hoon, the deputy head of the security service, or the head of the safety management division, which is next in line.

[Anchor]
As you said, the assistant manager of the security service is waiting for the summons, and the head of the security headquarters is all waiting for the summons.

[Reporter] Kim Sung-hoon, deputy head of the security service, who was booked on charges of obstructing the execution of special public affairs along with Chief Park
, Lee Kwang-woo, head of the security and safety division, and Lee Jin-ha are all absent from the police. The police can issue arrest warrants for them and execute them along with the arrest warrant for President Yoon. In such a case, there is an analysis that the power of the security agency can be relieved in advance.

[Anchor]
The security system could collapse, right?

[Reporter]
That's right. However, as Director of Security Park Jong-joon attended today, I think the police set up such a warrant execution scenario. But in fact, I think this scenario is a little twisted. There is also an interpretation that Minister Park indirectly induced leniency for executives under the security service. Some analysts say that he laid such a paving stone, saying he would take all the possibilities, including arrest, at a time when the security officials were booked one after another and refused to comply with the summons. This is to prevent further disruptions in the execution of arrest warrants if Minister Park and other security officers are all excluded from the scene. There is also an analysis of the reason for this attendance.

[Anchor]
Regarding national prestige, the National Assembly Judiciary Committee also asked questions about national prestige today, which is related to the issue of handcuffing President Yoon when he is arrested. Let's listen to the recording first.

[Park Ji-won / Democratic Party member: If a Yoon Suk Yeol is arrested by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, he or she will lose national dignity if he or she is handcuffed and dragged. It's natural to put handcuffs on him when he's arrested, right? Are you losing your national reputation? CEO Kwon Young-se made this claim. Deputy Minister, Acting Minister.]

[Kim Seok-woo / Acting Minister of Justice: Yes]

[Park Ji-won / Democratic Party of Korea member: If you grab an arrest warrant and handcuff it while resisting the court, will you lose your national dignity? Is my national dignity falling? ]

[Kim Seok-woo / Acting Minister of Justice: Generally speaking, various devices can be used when resisting the execution of an arrest warrant. ]

[Park Ji-won / Minjoo Party member: One of the various devices is handcuffs, right? ]

[Kim Seok-woo / Acting Minister of Justice: Yes, that's right. ]

[Park Ji-won / Democratic Party member: Make it big. ]

[Kim Seok-woo / Acting Minister of Justice: Yes, that's right. ]

[Anchor]
Lawyer, I think we've also seen some of the push, but are you generally handcuffed during the execution of an arrest warrant? How do you do that?

[Kim Kwang Sam]
As far as I know, it's not always going to be filled. Looking at the situation at that time, the most important thing is whether there is a risk of escape or self-harm in the situation itself. So, in principle, it's actually right to put handcuffs on when arresting. When escorting, there are cases where they are tied with a rope, but in my opinion, it's the president. So once the president is arrested, would he run away from the spot? without fear of flight to be self-inflictedIf you say no, it's within the scope of the Airborne Department's discretion whether to handcuff or not, look at it like this. So, in my opinion, once the execution of the arrest warrant has been completed, I don't think it is necessary to handcuff him, I don't think so.

That's enough to be done by the airlift, look at it like this. So, from the opposition party's point of view, there is a lot of hostility toward the president by continuing to rebel, but it's up to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to take care of the situation at the time, and I don't think political circles should say anything about it. So I don't know what the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will do. Moreover, some people say that you shouldn't put them in a private car after arresting them, but it's about judicial enforcement. So, I don't think it's appropriate to say something like lawmaker Park Ji-won, who leaves it to the investigative agency and discusses it politically.

[Anchor]
The National Investigation Headquarters of the police is also preparing quite a bit, and the situation was before the head of the security department submitted his resignation, but today we convened the head of the metropolitan area's regional investigation team. In addition, a general mobilization order for detectives in the metropolitan area was issued, so what kind of manpower are they?

[Reporter]
There is a prediction that the execution of an arrest warrant is imminent. As such, it seems clear that they will increase their manpower as they failed in the first attempt to execute the arrest warrant. The police summoned commanders to be deployed to the scene ahead of the execution of the second arrest warrant today. The National Police Agency's National Investigation Headquarters told the heads of the metropolitan area's investigation teams, including Seoul and Gyeonggi, to gather at 2 p.m. today. The convocation targets are known to be the commanders, including the head of each investigation team's criminal activities and the head of the drug crime investigation. Here, it is expected to share the specific plan of the execution of the second arrest warrant and discuss its feasibility and legal issues. Yesterday, I sent an official letter containing the "Investigation Mobilization Order" to the metropolitan area's regional investigation team and the security investigation team. The official document was to prepare for the execution of President Yoon's arrest warrant, but it is known that the number of people to be mobilized is about 1,000.

[Anchor]
Lawyer, when this was issued in the first place regarding the second arrest warrant, we were going to keep things like the execution period private, but I don't know if it's accurate.Ma is at least a week, about three weeks. I'm also hearing this news. Then, can we predict when the warrant can be executed?

[Kim Kwang Sam]
Last time, it was exactly the 7th. In principle, it's the 7th. Therefore, it was possible to predict that it would be executed on the 2nd or 3rd except for several weekends, but now it is highly likely to go to a fairly long-term war. And I think there is a high possibility that the warrant was issued as a grace period for a much longer period than the 7th. I guess it was issued for up to three weeks, I guess carefully. So now, because the police are convening the head of the wide-area investigation team, but I don't think the convocation means that the execution is immediately carried out. What we need to pay attention to is that we summoned Park Jong-joon, the chief of security, today. I'm doing it sequentially.

So, the head of the security office has been working on whether the head of the headquarters will be the general manager and the deputy head of the security office, so it will be a requirement to issue an arrest warrant to the head of the security office as soon as the day after tomorrow. So, when the arrest warrant is issued, there is a high possibility that it will enter next week or so. In some cases, you'll be listening to it internally. It's because there are about 700 employees at the security service. But in fact, Hannam-dong's official residence can't accommodate all 700 people.

And there's no dragonfly. Because I've been working shifts all along. The next thing you eat is about 700 people a day, and there will be a shortage of things like, for example, toilets. Then, as time goes by, in fact, it becomes very difficult for security guards. There is a possibility that the police will think about it and go to a long-term war. So now that the head of the security has resigned, I think I'll see what kind of actions any deputy does next, whether he or she responds to the summons. So if you look at whether you appear at the police or not, at least next week at the earliest, and before the holidays. It seems that you have received the expiration date before the holiday.

[Anchor]
There are reports like that.

[Kim Kwang Sam]
So, if it's late, it's likely to be enforced at least before the holidays. But there's a case like this. In some cases, there can be very unexpected variables. For example, I'm going to execute an arrest warrant, but the president will voluntarily summon it. For example, now the security service cannot continue to protect the president. And then the head of the security department quit. In a way, he insisted that it was very illegal and that arrest should not be allowed in this way, but rather than being arrested and taken away, there is room for voluntary appearance and discussion. I think that can happen suddenly.

[Anchor]
The problem of eating and sleeping of security personnel. Considering this realistic problem, the possibility of long-term execution is not right, but now Chief of Security Park Jong-joon has submitted his resignation letter and it has been repaired. And the investigation has been ongoing since this morning, and attention is focused on whether to seek an arrest warrant, but what you're receiving now is a charge of obstructing the execution of public affairs. In fact, is it likely to be an emergency arrest for this amount of charges?

[Kim Kwang Sam]
It's an emergency arrest requirement. This is a requirement because if you face more than three years in prison and need to be arrested urgently, you can be arrested in case of urgency. However, some media reports are out like this, so arrest them at the scene. But it's actually hard to arrest them on the spot. It's because the security chief doesn't come forward and block them. Then you have to make a specific arrest, but that's not easy. Because I give instructions. So, from the police's point of view, it's much easier to get an arrest warrant, and they'll have a plan that says it's right to collect these things and execute them at once. So in my opinion, the next three to four days or two to three days will be an inflection point on how to respond to the security service. Look at it like this.

[Anchor]
I'll stop listening to it. This has been Baek Jong-gyu, a reporter from the Ministry of Social Affairs, and Kim Kwang-sam, a lawyer. Thank you for talking today.