■ Starring: lawyer Kim Kwang-sam, special professor at Yongin University Choi Chang-ryul, current affairs critic Park Sang-gyu
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[Anchor]
Attorney Kim Kwang-sam is also sitting with us and watching the screen together. How do you understand the current situation from your point of view?
[Kim Kwang-sam]
If you look at the fact that they're discussing voluntary attendance, they're saying that they haven't been arrested yet. So we can talk about it in two aspects. The first is when the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit executes an arrest warrant, shouldn't it be escorted after that? Then, in principle, it is correct to put the convoy itself in a car owned by the airborne organization and go to the airborne organization. However, the ruling party also argued that even if the president is arrested, he should be escorted in a presidential car, not a public transportation office vehicle. Then there was a claim that handcuffs and rope should not be worn. So, if the arrest warrant is executed, will it be escorted like that, or the president will suspend the execution of the arrest warrant and probably make such a request.
Instead of executing an arrest warrant, let's go to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. So this might not be a convoy. So anyway, it's right to go to the security service vehicle, but what we need to pay attention to is whether the president moves in a security vehicle with an arrest warrant executed. Or do you suspend the execution of arrest warrants and go to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit in a security service vehicle without executing them? They're probably sharing their opinions with each other on two things. You can see it like this. From the point of view of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, it would be very difficult to do that without executing an arrest warrant.
Because if you move without doing anything, even if you go to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and comply with it, if you investigate while suspending the execution of the arrest warrant, what you can do next is a preliminary arrest warrant. That is the issue that the President has constantly called for. Of course, the president should request a warrant from the Central District Court, not the Western District Court, and the police should be the subject to request the warrant, so I don't know if that part will be discussed or not. However, from the perspective of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, it can be very burdensome to move to a presidential car without executing a warrant.
[Choi Chang Ryul]
It's hard for me to agree with that, but now the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has gone to that situation, but they don't execute an arrest warrant for the president and go to the security service vehicle. Attorney Kim Kwang-sam says the number of cases, but I think that's almost zero. That doesn't make sense. I came to execute an arrest warrant, but instead of executing an arrest warrant, I go to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit in the president's security vehicle? Which law is that? What law is it based on? There is no such thing as I see it.
[Park Sang Kyu]
I think the analysis of the situation is accurate when the lawyer's words and the professor's words are combined. Especially for me, the lawyer said it's been 20 minutes since the subtitle was posted that it's going to be released soon. What this story is about is that something is not being said. I don't want to hear that one side is trying to execute it, but the other side is not trying to be called execution or arrest. So since I'm here, I'll go to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and get investigated. There should be a fierce dispute between justification and practicality. As Professor Choi said, what are you talking about? Didn't you go in because you offered a warrant a few hours ago and said you would comply with it? By the way, the presidential security car is formally used in a private car? This is ridiculous. I think it's right that these things continue to fight fiercely right now.
[Kim Kwang Sam]
What I said was that the suspension of the execution of the arrest warrant was not about that. They're saying that they're arguing with each other in there. So, from the point of view of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, we have no choice but to execute the warrant, and from the point of view of the president, let's not do it. It is said that the advance team started, so it is likely that it started with an arrest warrant. I think so.
[Anchor]
I think it would be good to organize it and listen to what you say. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is scheduled to hold a briefing on the arrest warrant at 9 a.m. And a little while ago, the advance team of the security service departed from the Gwacheon Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. Then, considering what you two said, it is possible to assume that the security service vehicle was out in advance because it needs to be escorted even if the president is arrested and moved to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, right?
[Park Sang Kyu]
Yes, there were two cars leaving. That's probably seen as an advance party. Because the president has to be guarded while on the move, but the level of security varies greatly when he arrives at the scene. There must be a lot of people in front of him. There may be reporters, but there may be others, so the advance team went to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to take security measures against it, so you need to look at the investigation room in advance. It is said that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit prepared the investigation room, but the Presidential Security Service has a manual. So it's reasonable to see all the devices in it basically with electronic equipment and go to do this. So I think the execution itself is a fact that the transfer of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is a fact. It has hardened. However, when will you come out and how will you go? The fact that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will brief the public in about four minutes means that the overall situation of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will be explained to the public through the media, and then the story is almost over.
[Kim Kwang Sam]
I said this on YTN's previous broadcast. First of all, the inside of the security office is not in the mood to block the execution of the arrest warrant. So, it is said that once the first and second cordons are breached, they will not make scrums or anything like that, and they conveyed that opinion to the managers under the command of the security service. So, if you say you don't make a scrum, you have no choice but to cooperate with the execution of the warrant if the first and second stops are made, and because there was such an opinion, there is probably no room for heavy-duty or any more to stop it. Because I judged so, I think it's highly likely that the president went to that effect, asking him to keep the courtesy.
[Anchor]
I'm showing you through the screen. The left side of the screen is the view of Hannam-dong at this time. Since the news broke that President Yoon Suk Yeol is expected to come out of his official residence in a while, there has been a story of an on-site reporter that the pros and cons are intensifying at the scene.
[Park Sang Kyu]
The situation on the left seems to me to be that the police lay violently in front of them. There have been rumors that such people need to be moved for safety reasons, and that ruling party members have been moved to other places, but many of the chairmen of the party's cooperation outside the assembly have gone now and are going to go further. So isn't the situation in front of you right now in the middle of the rush hour?
Today is another weekday. So you shouldn't feel dizzy anymore in various ways, right? So the police on that part. The line of cars behind me is all for work. Shouldn't Hannam-dong be no longer stained with odors, garbage, loud voices and shouts for today? I think President Yoon's perception of this also played a part.
[Anchor]
The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has announced a briefing on the execution of the arrest warrant at 9 a.m. shortly. If so, it seems that the discussion on the route and methods of movement to the President of Yoon Suk Yeol ended on the spot. When the briefing starts at 9 o'clock in a little while, we will connect the site and deliver it live.
Lawyer, first of all, do you want to go to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit or the security vehicle? We'll check it out on the screen soon.No matter what format Ma moves, it is a process in which the incumbent president is escorted anyway, so the security vehicles also move together, right?
[Kim Kwang Sam]
That's right. First of all, whether the arrest warrant was executed or not, it seems to have been agreed on the transfer to the security vehicle. So, it can be said that the security vehicle was preemptively on standby. But the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit probably presupposed the execution of an arrest warrant. So there is no chance that the president will not continue to respond to that. Because if they agreed to transfer them to a security vehicle and raised objections to the execution of arrest warrants or blocked them and refused to respond, I think police personnel would have already been deployed and gone to the base of the president.
However, seeing that there is no such thing, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has no choice but to execute an arrest warrant. I don't know how the security vehicle will be ready right now. I also see a lot of security vehicles when I go to Gwanghwamun like this. The president said that SUV is a large SUV. It moves several times. And there are police convoys and cars. We will go in that format, and once we leave the presidential residence, in principle, this time is rush hour because it's very commute time. But if you come across the Hannam Bridge, at least if traffic is controlled, it will be a security vehicle, so of course, traffic control will be possible. There is a high possibility of entering the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit building in Gwacheon within at least 20-30 minutes.
[Choi Chang Ryul]
But do you escort this vehicle to a security vehicle or go to the airlift? Or I think it's very important to go by airlift. I think the security vehicle will move, of course, because we need security continuously. Security is what the president does even when he is tried, if he has a current status. Kyung-ho is to do it until the end, and it's a natural step. So it seems that the security vehicle left first, but from what I see, it is highly likely that it will move to the airlift. It's considered that the warrant was legally executed, and there's no reason to go to the security vehicle in this situation. Since the arrest warrant has already been executed and he is going to the suspect, he is the suspect and the president. Because of this situation, the possibility of going to a security vehicle is very low, I think so.
[Anchor]
Wait a minute. I think the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is continuing the on-site briefing. He said there was no security guard staff preventing him from entering the official residence. It said there was no physical collision in the process of entering the official residence. In addition, there were rumors about the arrest of the deputy bodyguard earlier, but the special team's official position is that no one has been arrested so far. I'll tell you again. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit did not have any security personnel preventing entry into the official residence, so there was no physical conflict in the process of entry. Regarding the rumor of the arrest of the deputy head of security, he also officially said that no one has been arrested so far.
[Anchor]
Lawyer, didn't the police, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the security service hold a three-way meeting yesterday? It is known that no special agreement has been reached since then, but if you look at the story of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit today, isn't there any special resistance? How much do you think it's reflected?
[Kim Kwang-sam]
First of all, the position of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit was that they would follow the manual. It's very ambiguous that this manual is to follow the manual. Because according to the manual, it is actually a manual for security officials to prevent or remove this in case of harm to the president. However, the arrest warrant was issued by the court, and there is a problem with whether it can be done according to the manual to prevent this. So yesterday, it was very meaningful. Kim Sung-hoon, deputy head of the security department, is known as Kang Sung-pa even within the security office. Kim Shin, the head of the family, is Lee Kwang-woo, the head of the family division, but it seems that hard-liners have not been able to gain strength from within.
So I won't stop it with physical force at the level of the manager and manager below the rest. I think there have been some opinions to the effect that if the manual breaks through the first and second cordons, it will cooperate without scrumming. The opinion itself was conveyed to Deputy Director Kim Sung-hoon. So, I think it can be seen that the reason why something can be done under the direction of the hardliners has disappeared. As a result, the president has no manpower to stop it. It's not in that atmosphere, so I've already decided not to stop the lack of any security guards.
[Anchor]
Now, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit emphasized that voluntary attendance is not considered. It said that the execution of the warrant is the goal and the purpose. I think this is a very important part of not considering voluntary attendance.
[Kim Kwang Sam]
However, the current situation is not a situation where voluntary attendance can be considered. For example, we issued the first arrest warrant, but we failed, didn't we? Then, if you say you will voluntarily attend in the meantime, there is room for that to be accepted. By the way, an arrest warrant has already been issued and he went all the way there to execute, but doesn't that mean he mobilized about 3,700 people? In such a situation, furthermore, there is a target to be arrested right around the corner, and it is not a situation where it is not possible to discuss whether to voluntarily attend, and if that happens, it will be criticized greatly by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. So, the execution of the arrest warrant can be legally suspended. Consultation is possible, but the situation itself is not such a situation, so from the standpoint of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, voluntary attendance is not acceptable and the warrant is executed.
[Anchor]
Let me briefly summarize the situation of the briefing now. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit continues to brief on the execution of arrest warrants, and now the Presidential Security Service has requested the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to discuss security screening. Just a moment ago, we told you that the advance team of the security service has been moved to the Gwacheon Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, but it is estimated that the personnel have asked for consultation with the security check. And the Senior Prosecutor's Office said prosecutors, including the senior prosecutor, entered Gwanjeo-dong. And they have informed us that they are coordinating the execution of the arrest warrant.
[Park Sang Kyu]
That coordination is not possible to consider voluntary attendance as you just said, and now what kind of voluntary attendance is it? Some of the lawyers can make that argument. What that means is that even if I go, I will go with my own feet. Formally, however, it is very different to say that an arrest warrant was executed, that Soo-tae and I knew after seeing the warrant, and that we walked on our feet because we said we would go. So, as the lawyer said earlier, whether you ride in a security car or a presidential car has a very formal but important meaning. Perhaps this is the point of the last consultation. However, if you follow the law and follow the procedure, even the president should take an airlift.
Regardless of whether the bodyguard becomes the deputy bodyguard, I think someone can do close-up security. But if the car itself is a presidential car, wouldn't it be like that later? Why would anyone want to hear things like that like the National Assembly, where Oh Dong-woon, the head of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, was called out to execute the emperor? So that part is still the president, but it's still the president. I'm sure you'll argue that there's a difference between riding in the security office or the airborne office, but I told you earlier about this part because it can be a big issue and controversy later on. The fact that they're already going and checking security means they're going, but I think there's a big difference between the president's car and the president's security car from the front and back. We have to wait and see, but I think that's the last issue between the two sides.
[Choi Chang Ryul]
Exactly what we need to see now is that we are conscious of being the president, but the president is right. President Yoon Suk Yeol has the status of president, but in fact, the president's authority is suspended, and his duties are suspended. As a suspect, you're being executed with a warrant. You have to look at this exactly. The controversy itself is very exhausting and unnecessary, saying that you have to ride a security car because you are the president. I'm arguing that's unlikely in my opinion. Both of you are talking about that right now. In the case of the day before yesterday or the day before yesterday, it is true that voluntary attendance is true. Because we didn't know when the execution would be. But it's already been executed, and how can I get on the presidential car of a security vehicle from there? It's not a matter of the emperor's investigation or the emperor's investigation, but it doesn't fit the rule of law. We need to see it exactly. I don't know why you keep saying different things.
[Anchor]
I'll organize the screen here once again. This is the view of the official residence, on the right. That continues to show one vehicle, but we haven't yet figured out whether the president will ride that vehicle or use that vehicle. I'm showing you my official residence right now. The left is Hannam at this time. After the news broke that the president is likely to come out of his official residence soon, there was a news that the protests intensified a little. Order is being maintained in that area.
[Anchor]
Right now, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit continues to brief the site. When the president executes an arrest warrant, he said he will move to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. It is said that more than 200 pages of questionnaires have been prepared. It was revealed that there were more questions than in the first round. In addition, it was confirmed that about 40 people participated at the warrant execution site. The investigation into the president will be conducted in the video recording room. And the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit says it would not have requested an arrest warrant if it had considered a door-to-door investigation. Lawyer, since the security office has also requested consultations on security checks at the building, shouldn't the president move after this part is completed? Then, can we expect it to take a long time?
[Kim Kwang Sam]
But it's the same with the last arrest warrant. I think that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is in a hurry now. Because the briefing is actually a briefing when the president moves to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and then the investigation begins. It hasn't even come out whether it's been executed yet. After that, he said there could be no voluntary attendance and said that the ultimate goal was to execute the warrant. Then, you have to brief after a while after executing the warrant, but why are you briefing all of a sudden when you are in the process of executing the warrant? I don't understand that part either. It was like that last time, too. Suddenly, I said I would do a briefing at 2 o'clock just before withdrawing from the briefing. It's very unprofessional and very clumsy to say that you're going to brief first when the results haven't come out yet.
[Anchor]
It is a principle that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit should board the convoy now. The contents came out from another briefing now that they will discuss it on the spot.
[Kim Kwang Sam]
The principle for that part is to take a convoy, too. However, if you are the president and you have responded to the execution yourself, the law will not stipulate that you must ride a convoy. So, I mean to discuss it on the spot in that part. This means that in some cases, the president can be allowed to ride in a private car to the extent that it does not violate the law. So I don't know if I'll accept it or not, but the execution of the arrest warrant went smoothly. From what I can tell, the security car went inside. I think the security vehicle wouldn't have gone in like that if the security office cut it off with a very different thing because the airborne office understood it to some extent.
[Park Sang Kyu]
So, as the lawyer said, there's something we usually say. That's the principle. What did you say with this open? There are exceptions. So, wouldn't it be a practical benefit to execute an arrest warrant against the president and move him to the investigation office of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit? In particular, Director of Airborne Oh Dong-woon. I think he's going back and forth on the phone, over that question. They say they'll take the president's car rather than the convoy of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, so what should we do? Oh Dong-woon's Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will also be on fire right now. I think you're the only one who doesn't think about this problem. That's why this problem is not a big deal. It's a part where various arguments can be made from both sides in the future. It could be controversial in the National Assembly and the ruling party's position on this will be firm. So I'm not saying that something is right. So, it only takes the real benefit of executing the warrant, and the president's status is still a suspect.
[Anchor]
Right now, over there, we're showing you from a different angle, and this is the entrance to the official residence.
[Anchor]
The door is now open and people are seen going back and forth, and President Yoon Suk Yeol is expected to come out of that door in a little while. I haven't shown myself yet. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit says that in principle, the convoy is boarded, but it will be discussed on the spot. We're showing you the screen we're showing you right now, and we're showing you the door of the official residence at this time.
[Anchor]
The door is opening now and several people are coming and going. We're showing you the direction the president is coming out through the screen.
[Park Sang Kyu]
YTN camera team is amazing. I've been on TV for a long time.It's very difficult to capture an angle like that. So you're saying you're going to see President Yoon through that door now. But the problem is, I don't think President Yoon will be exposed well. How could the bodyguard not have thought of that? So I think the car can get attention. However, I wonder if President Yoon's face will be reflected there. I think that's probably in the process of fierce negotiations between the security and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. I think these things need to be resolved. So what kind of car is the president going out in, the bodyguards are close to each other while moving, so I will protect them. What that means is that the staff at the security service can cover it up with something. No matter what you cover with clothes or what you cover with. I think even in such a situation, you may not know who's coming out or what's the president even if you look at that door.
[Anchor]
The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has prepared about 200 questionnaires anyway, but the lawyers have also previously said that President Yoon will exercise his right to refuse to make a statement. It is questionable whether the investigation will be conducted properly.
[Kim Kwang Sam]
I think that's a high possibility. First of all, the president kept talking. Arrest warrants are illegal. There are many reasons for this, but first of all, they say that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit does not have the authority to investigate and secondly, why didn't they get a warrant issued by the Central District Law, so they can't afford to prevent this because the execution of the arrest warrant is just around the corner. Then we have no choice but to be escorted to the airlift. If you go to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, you'll be investigated, but you've kept saying that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit doesn't have But if you respond to an investigation there, this means you will recognize the investigation authority. That's why it's been in the media reports before, right? The president's side will not make a statement. So I think there's a very high possibility that we'll go like that.
[Choi Chang Ryul]
Kim Sung-hoon, deputy chief of security, has been arrested.
[Anchor]
As soon as we find out on the spot, we will let you know once again. About seven to eight advance members of the security service have arrived at the airborne office in Gwacheon. And it takes about an hour to discuss the security method, and seven to eight members of the security service have arrived at the Gwacheon Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, and after checking the security here, the president's office will be contacted and it is estimated that they will depart after that.
[Kim Kwang Sam]
It's likely to be that way. Now, it is inevitable to comply with the execution of the arrest warrant, and what will be done next? The most important thing that the president's lawyers claim and worry about right now is handcuffing and tying them to a convoy, and they are paying a lot of attention to this. In the meantime, they are talking about national qualification outwardly, but from the president's point of view, it is very burdensome. So the content of the consultation itself, in my view, will be the first question of whether handcuffs or convoys.
Second, we are discussing the issue of vehicle movement, which can be seen like this. Then, the execution of the warrant has already become a fait accompli, and this is the only way to see it, and then the question of procedures in the convoy process. But handcuffs don't necessarily have to be put on. It's right to fill it up in principle. There are also several principles, such as what kind of escape it is or self-harming yourself.
So, the part related to handcuffs is something that can be done at the discretion of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. The same goes for the convoy. In principle, it is right for the convoy brought by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to pick it up and escort it, but we are now discussing this method because there is room for a private car to move if some agreements are made.
[Anchor]
Let me ask the professor a question. If you look at the briefing of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit in general, it is a principle to board a convoy. If we had considered the visit investigation, we would not have requested an arrest warrant. The presidential investigation will take place in the video recording room. Looking at various messages, I think it comes out much stronger than in the first round. How do you figure it out?
[Choi Chang Ryul]
I don't think it's going to come out strong, but I think it's just following the rules. There was a lot of controversy over various things right now. And in particular, President Yoon has been constantly talking about judicial controversy and has continued to cause legal debates. The dispute over it will also be ruled by the court later. Objections to those things were rejected and arrest warrants were issued. Is it a convoy or a bodyguard car? I think this is too exhausting a controversy, but that could be an immediate issue at that scene. That's what I think. I don't think the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will have to handcuff the president and put him on the rope.
There's no reason to do that once you're under arrest. However, I think it will be very important whether the means of transportation is a presidential vehicle or a public transportation agency vehicle. It's about considering laws and principles, but that doesn't mean that it's 100% about laws and principles. You can be flexible. As a minimum suspect, I think I will go with a security vehicle rather than a presidential vehicle if it is the process of being escorted to an investigative agency in response to the execution of a warrant. I don't think I'll be cuffed or strapped, and it looks like that. Maybe that could be the subject of negotiation. If we follow the rules, we'll have to handcuff him and rope him.There are definitely parts that don't fit the presidential status. Even if you are a suspect. I think those things could also be given to each other's negotiations one by one.
[Park Sang Kyu]
Once again, if you look at the nature of this situation, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit asked the president to respond to the investigation three times, but the president did not respond, so I requested an arrest warrant to investigate and got it. On two occasions. If so, the purpose of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is not to investigate, but rather not to respond to the investigation, but to take the recruits anyway and make them respond to the investigation. So, as the lawyer said earlier, whether the investigation can be done by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, it is too much for the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to expand and investigate the allegations of this rebellion with the word related. So, as I said earlier, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will achieve its goal and the President will go to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. Exactly 48 hours later, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will no longer be able to hold the president. So, you need to request an arrest warrant and get it issued, but it can be a big controversy whether the prosecutor of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit can do it, so hand it over to the police then.
I told you earlier. The investigation is done over there. And the prosecution has to prosecute anyway. What did you say to end all this controversy? The National Assembly's standing special prosecutor has not passed yet, but it is a general rebellion special prosecutor. If this happens, everything will be suspended by other investigative agencies, and the records and everything until then will be handed over to the National Assembly's special prosecutor. Since it goes to this process, calling the president to investigate will accomplish today's goal. However, as you said earlier, I don't think the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will be able to hear a single word from the President.
[Choi Chang-ryul]
Everything else I want to object to is good, but I'm not trying to catch the horse, but the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit said it was angry, you shouldn't say this recklessly. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit was trying to execute a warrant issued by the law enforcement system of the Republic of Korea. You can't say that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is angry because it doesn't have the ability to investigate with this. That's something I can't help but raise an objection to.
[Park Sang Kyu]
I'm overstating that, but I'm telling you that if the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit does an investigation today, if we call the president to do an investigation, then we'll have to follow the Dew process and proceed with the judicial process without controversy.
[Anchor]
We're showing you two screens right now, and we're showing you the view of the official residence on the right. This is Hannam-ro on the left side of the screen. If you look at it, there are police and traffic control seems to be in place. Traffic control seems to be taking place on the spot accordingly because it is expected that the vehicle carrying President Yoon Suk Yeol will move soon.
[Park Sang Kyu]
All the cars on the left are standing because they don't know what kind of car will come from the presidential residence, so they seem to be catching a lot of signals. So, in my opinion, the nightmare of Hannam-dong and the confusion of Hannam-dong will be sorted out only when this procedure is completed quickly. It's unofficial.Ma is also heard that Kim Sung-hoon, deputy head of the security service, has been arrested. I have to check it out. To this point, I think Deputy Manager Kim himself also looked ahead and responded to this measure.
[Anchor]
As for the arrest of the deputy security officer, the official position of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit was that there were no arrests so far at the scene. I think we need to check if there has been a change in the situation since then. Anyway, 8 out of 7 advance members of the security service have arrived at Gwacheon Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. In preparation for the presidential investigation, security checks are being conducted. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit said it is now discussing the security method on due process. It is expected that the discussion will take about an hour. Lawyer, what points should we discuss regarding security?
[Kim Kwang Sam]
Looking at that, didn't we have a three-way meeting at 8 a.m. yesterday? Corruption Investigations Unit, police, security agencies. But then, the protection agency will follow the manual. I talked about it, but I think that's the manual. It's not that I'm going to block the execution of an arrest warrant, but if there's a case like this, how to protect the security according to the security agency's manual, and then the security agency staff has already started a security check on the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit building in Gwacheon. It says it's already arrived. That's what the presidential security manual does. In addition, the security agency did not commit it, but it should have that kind of justification to say that he did something for the president.
That's why I'm doing it now. First of all, I think there is a high possibility of execution of arrest warrants, and if I refuse to comply with the execution of the warrant because those things don't happen over there, the police will be put in again. So it's not a situation that can stop that. Then, we will move to Gwacheon first and investigate, but most of the arrest warrants themselves presuppose an arrest warrant request. Therefore, even if the president exercises his right to refuse statements while being investigated in Gwacheon, it is highly likely that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit was preparing to request an arrest warrant. It's likely that they've already made a warrant.
Because it's clear that the president will exercise his right to refuse to make a statement, but he can't just rely on that statement. And in my view, I'm not going to claim the arrest warrant itself to the Central District Court. I'm going to charge it to the west. Because if you request an arrest warrant to the Western District Court, but an arrest warrant to the Central District Court is not consistent. Then you're more likely to be attacked for that part. Then the Airborne Department continues to claim jurisdiction over the Western District Court, so it will be decided whether to seek a warrant from the Western District Court and issue the warrant or not.
[Anchor]
I'm showing you my official residence at this time, but I'm showing you from a different angle. The left is the entrance to the official residence. And on the right is a vehicle that has been continuously showing from different angles. On the right screen, there was only one large SUV behind us, but now two more have lined up side by side in front of it. And the car on the right is moving. The car behind it is also moving, but the situation seems to have changed from a while ago. Now, in front of the door on the left, we can see a lot more people moving. And the screen on the right side was shaking for a second.Ma is seen moving near a large SUV that has been stopped continuously.
The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit said that the security inspection consultation is expected to take about an hour to the investigation office of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, but if such security inspections and such parts are completed, the presidential office may be contacted about the departure.
[Anchor]
In a moment, President Yoon Suk Yeol is expected to open the door over there on the screen and move to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. We're continuing to show you the scene, professor, what do you think? How can we expect the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to investigate the President of Yoon Suk Yeol in the future?
[Choi Chang Ryul]
is already scheduled. An arrest warrant cannot exceed 48 hours and will be in the process of requesting an arrest warrant. Are there nine people in total on the important mission? I've been arrested and charged. And the arrest warrant for President Yoon, who is pointed out as the head of the civil war, remains. But there's no way not to request an arrest warrant. And I've already told them not to execute arrest warrants, but to seek arrest warrants. Whether there is such talk or not, of course, we will go to the request for an arrest warrant. It's the court's decision whether a warrant will be issued or not, so I think it's over the line to predict it from here. Anyway, it seems almost a given that the president is executing an arrest warrant now, and in this situation, he goes to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and exercises his right to refuse to make a statement for 48 hours, so we don't know that either. I can say a few words, and I don't know. You don't even know if you don't say a word. I'll be seeking an arrest warrant within 48 hours. Otherwise, if you don't request an arrest warrant, wouldn't it make sense if you were released? In various situations. It's going to go through that process.
And in the National Assembly, the opposition party says it's a special prosecutor for civil war, and the ruling party says it's a special prosecutor for martial law. Whatever the name of it, the special prosecutor is in talks, and I think this is what it is. If the president is indicted, I wonder if the special prosecutor will be meaningful. What would the special counsel investigate when he's already been indicted? That's another matter. So I suspect that there was such an intention to delay the execution of the arrest warrant. The ruling party will propose an independent counsel law, and will come up with an alternative. But I haven't come up with an alternative yet. The opposition party is saying that the ruling and opposition parties will discuss it only when it is proposed. We'll go through a number of those processes. And doesn't it mean that the impeachment trial will proceed even if the president did not attend yesterday, the 14th, as scheduled, and tomorrow, the 16th, he will not attend?
It's done twice a week, so five dates have already been designated. The impeachment trial is scheduled for the impeachment trial.There will be a lot of controversies. Whether the crime of rebellion was removed? There are various things about this part, and whether it is appropriate to exclude it from the reasons for impeachment. In any case, the Constitutional Court is dismissing what the president is saying.
[Anchor]
I'm showing you my official residence at this time. The doorway is opening again now. Right now, this direction is a vehicle that goes from the outside into the official residence. The number of black SUVs has decreased and is going inside. With the prospect that President Yoon Suk Yeol will soon depart for the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, the door has now opened and two vehicles that appear to be security vehicles from outside have entered the interior.
[Anchor]
The situation at the site seems to be urgently working. The vehicle moved from the outside of the official residence to the inside. I'm showing you the entrance to the official residence again.
[Anchor]
You can see the vehicle has moved to the front of the door now.
[Anchor]
President Yoon Suk Yeol expressed his position through his lawyer that he would comply with a voluntary arrest warrant due to the risk of physical conflict. After a while, I'm going to get out of my official residence and move to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. We're continuing to show you the screen of the scene. What do you think, critic? Overall, the execution of arrest warrants by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has accelerated a lot today. The president of Yoon Suk Yeol seems to be responding to the execution of the warrant anyway, what do you think overall?
[Park Sang Kyu]
It's a great relief. The first is a flashpoint, and some newspapers chose the title 1000 to 500. I saw it very inappropriately. What kind of number fight is this between state agencies? So it is true that I was very concerned, and furthermore, we gather at 4 a.m. and start at 5 a.m. It's a pitch-black night situation, but why should there be such a situation between state agencies in the presidential residence in downtown Seoul? Fortunately, when I looked at the YTN broadcast screen so far, I could see a few 119 firefighters. So I said there were some injuries, but it was probably a minor thing that could happen during a minimum physical fight, and there were no injuries or collisions at all in the Airborne Department briefing after that, physical. Acting President Choi Sang-mok's stern warning also played a part. Above all, President Yoon Suk Yeol has prepared for such a situation since yesterday's trilateral meeting, and if it is respectful to various detailed matters, such as the form of responding to arrest warrants and the way they move, as mentioned earlier, it should be treated with respect. It seems like this was only trying to narrow the disagreement on this issue. Since the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has a position according to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, I think that the problem continues to be emphasized from the site.
[Anchor]
The movement in front of the official residence is getting busy. And it's hard to see because it's covered by trees, but there are several vehicles waiting on the lower left side of the screen. According to what the police have just revealed, the arrest warrant for President Yoon Suk Yeol has not yet been executed. In addition, Kim Sung-hoon, the deputy head of the security, and Lee Kwang-woo, the head of the security headquarters, were not arrested, and they said it was before their arrest. Police have officially informed us that no one has been arrested as a current offender so far.
[Park Sang Kyu]
Because the senior prosecutor of the Senior Prosecutor of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit took three warrants. In the number of cases. Director Lee Kwang-woo and Deputy Director Kim Sung-hoon went there together. I took 3 warrants with me, would you put 2 in the trash? I'm executing it. If executed, a warrant is executed against the president, but it's strange that the warrant for the deputy chief of security and the general manager cannot be executed. So I think that maybe both of them will respond to the execution of the warrant. So I'm very fortunate. Because anyway, I think it's an example of how the judicial system in Korea is working normally. Although there was controversy. And the current situation in Hannam-dong has been known as Hannam-dong, originally very rich, and the business district of people living there was good. But it was a mess. There are many different opinions on who is to blame for this, but wouldn't it be meaningful to end such a situation today? First of all, why don't you move on to the situation after the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit? Since it is now a legal dispute and the legality of the warrant request will be transferred to a dispute in the course of investigation, prosecution, and trial, it goes to the process within the normal judicial system of the Republic of Korea. I look forward to something like this.
[Choi Chang Ryul]
In my view, I hope that President Yoon or President Yoon will avoid unnecessary judicial debates and legal controversies as much as possible in the future. It's too much. Everything is a judicial issue, and of course, there's a defense right.Ma yesterday guarantees chief of staff Jeong Jin-seok's right to defend himself. The right to defend is being guaranteed a lot, the special prosecutor. close to preferential treatment Because of those things, I say that I will comply with the execution of the warrant in the future, so 99% of it looks like that, but I add that it does not help the president's reputation to cause too much judicial debate on the part of President Yoon in the future.
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