Choi Byung-cheon "President and the ruling party make Kim Gun-hee a 'people's hate award'..Will the national anger accumulate mileage?

[News FM Lee Ik-seon Choi Soo-young Issue & People]
□ Broadcast Date: 09/30/2024 (Mon)
□ Host: Lee Ik-seon, Choi Soo-young
□ Performers: Kim Ki-heung, former deputy spokesperson for the president's office, Choi Byung-cheon, head of the New Growth Economic Research Institute

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◇ Profit Line: Choose the key points from the pouring news and organize them simply and clearly. The issue is Monday with two experts. We invited Maj. Gen. Jegal-ryang Choi Byung-cheon of the political analysis community and Kim Ki-heung, a conservative handsome guy, as a deputy spokesman for the former president's office. Welcome.

◆ Choi Soo-young: At a Cabinet meeting this morning, the government decided to propose the president's right to demand reconsideration, or veto, on the three bills passed by the opposition party. It is predicted that President Yoon will probably exercise his veto power four days in advance because he will have to do it by the 4th soon.

◈Kim Ki-heung: I think the right to demand reconsideration should be exercised from the perspective of the president or the president's office. It's not that we suddenly changed our position, but the so-called independent counsel for the two independent prosecutors. If it's an independent counsel, the Democratic Party of Korea filed a complaint, but in the end, the investigation and prosecution are decided by the players according to the opposition's taste, so of course, this is a problem and it's anti-constitutional. Then, in the case of the Local Currency Act, we opposed the payment of 250,000 won, but isn't this always made through the Local Currency Act? a sprinkling of cash In this regard, we are infringing on the government's right to budget, and 250,000 won is not from the pocket of Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the Democratic Party, but only from the pocket of some future generation of the Korean people. Of course, I will exercise my right to demand reconsideration. Look at it like this.

★Choi Byung-cheon: I think this has become a new normal. It's rather awkward if the president doesn't veto it, as the 22nd National Assembly is forced to submit a bill on one side, filibuster on the other, veto on the other, and vote on it again. As far as I remember, there are more bills that have been voted down than those passed now, but it seems to the public that neither side will look so good. That's what I think.

◆Choi Soo-young: But why is the Democratic Party saying that if the president vetoes the bill on the 4th, he has to deliberate a little and go back to the bill, but why are you saying that it will be done again on Saturday so immediately on the 5th?

★Choi Byung-cheon: In the Democratic Party's opinion, the president doesn't cook much. It's just a little ritual, so I think it's not disadvantageous, even with a little political pressure in mind. in a nutshell

◆ Choi Soo-young: What about the next day?

★Choi Byung-cheon: Even so, if a president makes a compromise, makes a counter-proposition, or accepts it, the public will also weigh it a little, but now the president always vetoes according to the president, so the Democratic Party of Korea thinks it is not disadvantageous at all.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: I see. In a radio interview in the morning, National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik said, "It is right to judge the National Assembly of the Bilateral Special Prosecutors Act and meet the public's standards." We need to accept the special prosecution law on the suspicion of the president's family and confidants and take it personally. That's what I was talking about.

◈Kim Ki-heung: Chairman Woo Won-sik mentioned the public's level, but I think he met the opposition party's level. It could be a repetition of the same language, but in the end, the special prosecutor has a lot of political elements to hurt the president rather than finding the truth. To add to the explanation, Han Dong-hoon, the representative of the Marine Corps, said he would do it when he asked about the suspicion of spying, but he didn't. In addition, if the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court recommends four people, it seems to be a third party recommendation, but if the Democratic Party rejects it, it cannot be done. In the end, the shape is a third-party special prosecutor, but indoor use is no different from the special prosecutor in the past. So to tell you one thing about the alleged spying, there is a recording between aide Jang Kyung-tae and the so-called informant, and if you look at the recording, the Democratic Party will continue to make it a hero. No matter what the People's Power Party over there says, this side will only hear what they want to hear from this side, so it's like this. In a phone call after that, he said that if the focus is on Mrs. Kim Gun-hee, the rest will be nothing more than two layers, and there will be no interest. Isn't this irrelevant to finding the truth because there is some demonization targeting on Kim Gun-hee after all, which is seen by various suspicions?

◆Choi Soo-young: Chief Choi, National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik probably talks about the public's level of view. In the NBS poll, 65% of the respondents approved of the special prosecutor Kim Gun-hee's law and 24% opposed it. Perhaps this poll has also been considered, but for more information, you can refer to the website of the Central Public Opinion Review Committee. Do you think Chairman Woo Won-sik spoke with this in mind?

★Choi Byung-cheon: I don't think I did it with this in mind. This time, however, Kim Gun-hee was overturned in Daegu and North Gyeongsang Province, and more people answered that they were conservative, and all age groups except those in their 70s were more in favor. Usually, people in their 20s and 30s tend to be a little conservative, or people in their 60s or older tend to be conservative, but except for those who are quite old in their 70s, it seems to be true that there are many things, whether they say it is ideologically conservative, moderate, or Daegu-Gyeongbuk-do or Boolean-kyung. As you said earlier, 65 to 24 is almost a lot more than a double score. That's why President Yoon Suk Yeol is so indifferent to public opinion that he is actually fighting against public opinion. Politics has a characteristic of communicating with the public to some extent, but he is hardly conscious of that. So, although Chairman Woo Won-sik is a former Democratic Party of Korea, I think it's not that different from the public's perspective to see that he is talking about this.

◆Choi Soo-young: The Hong Joon Pyo market's stance is a little unusual. You've been posting messages almost every day as if you were scolding CEO Han Dong-hoon, but the president's office recently pointed out the response to Kim, but there's a side that we've brought on ourselves. We are from the presidential office of Deputy Spokesperson Kim, but are there any valid disagreements about Mayor Hong's point?

◈Kim Ki-heung: What's a little hard to understand about Governor Hong's point is that in fact, I think the result is a little different when asked whether Governor Hong Joon Pyo actually supported the president or not. So, I think criticizing representative Han Dong-hoon is what I think in the end, I criticized President Yoon Suk Yeol. Didn't we talk about manly men? I talked about Kim Gun-hee's bulletproofness, which is a manly man, but I don't think the president is defending Kim Gun-hee. So, isn't the legal part and the emotional, ethical, and moral part different? Therefore, the president also apologized for the fact that he received a luxury bag for causing concern to the people due to inappropriate behavior after the general election. Also, wasn't Kim Gun-hee willing to apologize by texting CEO Han Dong-hoon during the election process? So, I think it's right to apologize if you say you have that kind of mind. However, based on factual facts, in a way, I think it is a weak link to the so-called propaganda incitement, so at the point of attacking First Lady Kim Gun-hee, there is no provision that clearly responds to areas that do not fit the facts and legally punishes luxury bags, right? However, the public thinks this is a little inappropriate, so wouldn't it be right for me to do this? However, it is right to clearly talk about other political offensives with facts. I think so.

◇Lee Ik-seon: Yes, the opposition party adopted Kim Gun-hee as a witness for the parliamentary inspection starting next week. At the same time as Kim Gun-hee's push for independent counsel, the opposition party will focus on the allegations related to the parliamentary inspection. He's looking determined.

★Choi Byung-cheon: I think it would be better for the ruling party or the opposition party to come out and talk about suspicions in the parliamentary inspection of the government, including the Kim Gun-hee issue. However, as President Yoon Suk Yeol has vetoed bills and has not apologized at all, as he said earlier, people called pro-Yoon-gye usually talked about the need for an apology, and even during the last party leadership race, Na Kyung-won, Won Hee-ryong, and Yoon Sang-hyun all raised signs and unanimously said, "We need an apology." But I don't do anything. In this regard, it seems unlikely that First Lady Kim Gun-hee will actually come to the parliamentary audit. Considering the president's stance and the stance that the people's power has shown, it seems that Kim Gun-hee has already become a bit of a "people's hatred." It seems like he's building up some kind of "people's anger mileage," but he doesn't seem to care. That's what I think.

◆Choi Soo-young: But the case of President Moon's daughter Da-hye, who was suspected of hiring her son-in-law's preferential treatment, is completely absent from the ruling party. So, it's not fair to point out that this is a bit excessive. What do you think about this?

◈Kim Ki-heung: In the end, former President Moon Jae In or Dahye can say something about the suspicions raised by various media. But if you think that doesn't mean that former President Moon Jae In can come out, didn't you talk about Da-hye's case? Didn't you say that you are a natural person? If so, you can answer the specific question of the suspicion if you feel unfair. But he keeps saying that he became a frog and then he does everything at this point. Don't you recall the sad death of former President Roh Moo Hyun? So, in the end, rather than based on facts, if you have any fault through the camp's logic, there are parts like that to dilute it and put a frame on it as a constant political prosecution. If there is such a process, I think if the ruling and opposition parties have adopted all the people they want through a parliamentary investigation and are trying to find out the facts, what should I say if the ruling party wants to be a witness? Even though it's hard to hope for equity, I have to match some kind of assortment, but they all refused. In that respect, I think the opposition party is a little too much.

◇Lee Ik-seon: CEO Lee Jae-myung's first trial of perjury teacher will be held today. How are you looking at it? Director Choi.

★ Choi Byung-cheon: It's a bit difficult to predict the final hearing. There will be some legal disputes, but when Judge Yoo Chang-hoon's arrest warrant was dismissed last time, it was not a very long amount, but the perjury teacher issue seems to have been a clarification, so should I say that I think it is probabilistic now as if I made a statement that affirms a little bit as if there is some room for dispute in the prosecutor's side? Although the expression of probability is ambiguous, it seems that it is difficult to conclude that something is in favor of CEO Lee Jae-myung. I think we can expect that much.

◆Choi Soo-young: What do you think of Deputy Spokesperson Kim?

◈Kim Ki-heung: Actually, it's about 30 minutes long. Everyone who is interested in the public can hear it, but doesn't CEO Lee Jae-myung say that to draw a line with Director Kim Moon-ki? He said that he doesn't make trivial small talk, but he called him several times. I injected it repeatedly as many times as I did. So after sending the summary of the argument, this person wrote the statement. Then, I even asked him to revise it again. That's what they said. So I said that I don't remember well, so I said, "You can just tell me that you heard that." So, in the end, because of the overall flow, he kept in touch with me and asked me for something like this, but the opposition party or the side defending Lee Jae-myung said, "Tell me the truth." But wouldn't CEO Lee Jae-myung know that? That I'm recording it? You create a corner where you're going to run away. And above all, the most important issue in this perjury teacher is that the person who has been a perjury teacher, the feelings they feel are very important, and this is where this person actually perjured. And who benefited from perjury? Wasn't CEO Lee Jae-myung innocent of being guilty? That's why I think it could be serious and I think it'll be about 3 years.

◆Choi Soo-young: However, in the first trial of the Public Official Election Act, Chief Choi was unusually high in his two-year prison sentence. We talked about this. But actually, if a sentence of more than 1 million won is confirmed, the lawmaker will lose his position, and this part will be lost if he receives a sentence of more than 1 million won. If so, as Deputy Spokesperson Kim said, the prison sentence was strongly demanded, would there be some agitation within the Democratic Party anyway?

★Choi Byung-cheon: I don't think there will be any children's songs for a while. Should I say CEO Lee Jae-myung has a feeling of longing? The grip is strong now, and many of the people who raised questions about Lee Jae-myung's judicial risks during the last general election nomination process have lost a lot of their voices. So, should I say that there is some learning effect on that? So, I don't think there will be any changes in the party for the time being, but there's something like getting wet in the drizzle. So for now, I don't think it's right to look at it like this until the old stage. First of all, I think the results of the trial will be a little weak in the first, second, and third trials. So I think there will be a lot of attacks from conservative media, but as you know, there is an election law, a perjury teacher, a remittance problem to North Korea, and a pretty big remittance problem. Former Lieutenant Governor Lee Hwa-young received nearly 9 years in prison, so he received 9 years and 6 months, but I think there will be a time difference that will affect him a little later.