[a head-to-head match] chin yoon hong seok-joon said, "han dong-hoon, you have to control yourself...尹 president is pushing too much."

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: October 24, 2024 (Thursday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Talk: Hong Seok-jun, a member of the National Power,

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- If I have to tell you apart, I'm...Within 與, there are many wait-and-see groups
- Choo Kyung-ho-Han Dong-hoon conflict? Major decision-making within and outside the party is right to be made at the highest level
- Han Dong-hoon, personnel rights, etc. are pushing too much of the president's exclusive authority
- Han Dong-hoon, you need to restrain yourself..During excessive demands in both timing and circumstances
- 尹, the implementation of a special inspector should be considered meaningful in itself
- The Democratic Party of Korea begins a full-fledged impeachment offensive..There will also be indirect defense of Li's judicial risk
- Shinpyeong remarks are likely to be a dangerous situation for the 尹 government.a state of chaos
◆ Shin Yul: Shin Yul's news head-to-head competition part 2 begins. In today's front-facing interview for the second part, Hong Seok-joon, a former member of the People's Power. I'm on the phone right now. Hello, Senator Hong.

◇ Hong Seok-jun: Yes, how are you? Nice to meet you, professor.

◆ Shin Yul: Yes, I heard you're in Daegu. You still have a lot of things going on in Daegu, right? Right?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: Today, a big innovation exhibition will be held in Daegu.

◆ You have a robot, right?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: Yes. I made it when I was in Daegu in the past, and not only robots but also futuristic cars and various fairs, especially this time, the Hong Joon Pyo market is tied up and there is a big exhibition called CES.

◆ Shin Yul: I looked at it for a second and all four of the cars went around. There's a car like that. It's like

◇ Hong Seok-jun: Right now, not only cars, but also drones and robots, and many companies, especially large companies, are now exhibiting their future technologies.

◆ Shin Yul: Yes. But honestly, I just want to ask you something. Are you close to Yoon? Are you close?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: If I have to tell you apart, I've been the head of the Daegu Election Division since the candidate for the Yoon Suk Yeol presidential election for the first time in Daegu and North Gyeongsang Province, so if I have to tell you apart, I think President Yoon Suk Yeol should succeed.

◆ Shin Yul: Of course, most people in the party think so, but do you think there are more close friends in the party? Do you think there's more Chin Yoon? Of course, there are more "Chin Yoon"? Or is there a lot of wait-and-see?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: I'm not sure. I think the most will be the wait-and-see. Nevertheless, for now, I think most people will have some direct or indirect connection to the president.

◆ Shin-ryul: There are many relationships, but we're not the president who can be nominated for the next nomination by speaking bluntly, so isn't there no choice but to increase the number of wait-and-see groups now that there are roughly half-point in the term of office?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: Yes. And if you think Han Dong-hoon is the future power, you may eventually move toward it, but anyway, Han Dong-hoon is no longer the current leader of the party, so the trend of lawmakers will probably change depending on various approval ratings and things like that.

◆ Shin-yul: But now, with the special inspector issue, they say that there will be a general meeting of lawmakers as early as next week. Yesterday, however, when Han Dong-hoon said he would push for the appointment of a special inspector, floor leader Choo Kyung-ho said, "That's my problem because I'm the chairman of the general meeting of the floor members." This morning, Han Dong-hoon said, "The party leader is the one who oversees everything." Who do you think is right?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: To tell you the exact facts, first of all, major decisions inside and outside the party are made by the Supreme Council, not the party leader or the floor leader. Then, the floor situation is decided at the general meeting led by the floor leader, so in fact, neither of you can be wrong, but what Han Dong-hoon said was a little exaggerated to say that the president does all the situations in the Republic of Korea, right? So, first of all, the issue within the party is centered on the floor leader, but it is current party rules and customary for the Supreme Council to make the final decision.

◆ Shin Yul: But what do you expect the conclusion to come when this special inspector is put on the Assembly?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: Well, I'm not sure. After the parliamentary inspection, floor leader Choo Kyung-ho proposed to decide at the general meeting, right? Now, the President has said that he will recommend and link the directors of the North Korean Human Rights Foundation. In fact, I want to focus more on the fact that I will be a special inspector in that, and even though the two systems themselves happen to have a system, the Moon Jae In administration did not appoint a director or a special inspector, right? That is why, from President Yoon Suk Yeol's point of view, I will do two things that were not done, especially during President Moon Jae In. I'd like to put some emphasis on this, but I think that maybe a lot of members in the party think something similar to what I think.

◆ Shin Yul: However, according to some reports, some say that the floor leader Choo Kyung-ho's expression of such an immediate opposition can reflect President Yoon Suk Yeol's intention. So what do you mean by that? There is an analysis that it is a roundabout objection to CEO Han Dong-hoon's immediate push for a special inspector. You don't agree with this?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: I think like this. In addition to the special inspector's request, the president's right to personnel affairs and the president's right to personnel affairs, which can be called the president's exclusive authority, are being pushed too much on this issue, such as the president's right to personnel affairs. For example, Kim Gun-hee's line should be sorted out, and any system such as the special inspection team should be decided before the first sentence of the Lee Jae-myung's Public Official Election Act as of next month, and the president is putting too much pressure on the president's right to personnel affairs. I think about it. When I talk to the Democratic Party panel before and after the show, there is a story within the Democratic Party of Korea about whether the party leader interferes with the president's personnel rights. If I think about whether the Democratic Party's party leaders could have made such a request during the Moon Jae In presidency in the past, I think I'm pushing myself too much.

◆ Shin Yul: Let me tell you a poll. I'd appreciate it if you could answer what you think. This is a poll conducted by the Daily An on the 22nd by requesting the Fair Trade Commission, a public opinion polling agency, to the Fair Trade Commission, not Daily. The final number of respondents is 104. For more information, refer to the website of the National Election Public Opinion Review Committee, and there is a part about who is more responsible for this responsibility, which seems to be a soft conflict, with 38.1% of President Yoon Suk Yeol, 37.7% of First Lady Kim Gun-hee, and 9.5% of Representatives Han Dong-hoon. Then, the total number of respondents who think that President Yoon Suk Yeol and First Lady Kim are more responsible is about 75%. It's over 75%. CEO Han Dong-hoon is 9.5%, and what do you think of such a poll?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: I think like this. The background of such a poll is that when looking at the president and representative Han Dong-hoon, the president is a bit strong and a bit big, so I think the president should embrace representative Han Dong-hoon. In a way, the president should be asked by representative Han Dong-hoon as the eldest brother.

◆ Shin Yul: So in the end, CEO Han Dong-hoon thinks that he needs to control himself a little bit, right?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: First of all, the fact that the leader of the ruling party and the president are in conflict with each other is very sorry to the public, especially now, North Korea is sending troops at home and abroad. Yesterday, the Democratic Party of Korea is starting a full-fledged impeachment offensive against the president in this difficult situation inside and outside the party. Of course, I cannot say that Han Dong-hoon's request is 100 percent wrong, but I think it's too much in the current situation and at this point in time.

◆ Shin-ryul: Then 64.6% of the people are now judging that this is the three major demands demanded by President Yoon Suk Yeol Han Dong-hoon, and 64.6% of the people can accept it. Are you also judging that this is not an accurate judgment?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: Because didn't the president explain in detail the three demands of representative Han Dong-hoon in a meeting with representative Han Dong-hoon? In the process of explaining it, I think I accepted most of CEO Han Dong-hoon's demands constructively. For example, if there is a problem with such a replacement liquidation, I will liquidate it. I'll say that 10 people have been replaced in the presidential office so far, or that I'm already refraining from doing any official activities of First Lady Kim Gun-hee. Especially the special inspector's issue. It's just some kind of

◆ Sin Yul: It's not different from the past. It's not a change that we have to promote this together with the director of the North Korean Human Rights Foundation and the special inspector from a long time ago, right?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: But what's important is that from the president's point of view, he said he would do it as a special inspector.

◆ Shin Yul: I think he said he would do it in the past, but I think he said he would do it if the ruling and opposition parties agreed.

◇ Hong Seok-jun: But the important thing is, isn't the president the person in charge of personnel management now? So I think it's very meaningful that it was officially declared by the personnel.

◆ Shin Yul: From October 21 to 23, Embrain Public, KStat Research, Korea Research, and Korea Research are polling telephone interviews of 1,000 people aged 18 or older nationwide. For more information, you can also refer to the website of the National Election Opinion Review Committee, where the president's evaluation is 22%, which is 2 percentage points less than last week. Then what do you think is the reason why you keep losing weight?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: Despite the difficulties of this situation at home and abroad, there are some issues of conflict within the party, especially recently, there are also unexpected variables like Myung Tae-kyun.These are also affecting the decline in the president's approval rating. But the problem is that I'm currently eating away not only the president's approval rating, but also the approval rating of the People's Power Party and some other candidates in the presidential election, such as Chairman Han Dong-hoon.

◆ Shin Yul: Of course, the public's approval rating came out the same as last week's survey. The Democratic Party went up a little bit. So, the Democratic Party of Korea's 30th National Power 28th came out, so this is what Representative Hong thinks. Can we summarize now that the North Korean Human Rights Foundation's director issue and the special inspector issue continue to be linked and think that this is a problem to be approached? And I think they're wearing long padded jackets and going outside from November 2nd. What about the Democratic Party?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: That's right. The Democratic Party of Korea is starting its impeachment offensive in earnest. As you know, some left-wing civic groups used to do it before that, but now the Democratic Party is starting its impeachment offensive in earnest with some special prosecutor, Kim Gun-hee. And behind the scenes, I think that from November 15th, Chairman Lee Jae-myung's Public Official Election Act on the 25th and perjury teachers, the current point was set like this to indirectly bulletproof some judicial risks.

◆ Shin Yul: This is because lawyer Shin Pyeong came out the day before yesterday on Tuesday. So he came to the studio himself and lawyer Shinpyeong said this. The Democratic Party of Korea is always impeaching, so if you do that, you'll get the impeachment motion and let it pass, and if you impeach it by the Constitutional Court, you'll be dismissed, so you'll get rejected. If you do that, your approval rating will rise all at once. The studio said this. How do you rate it?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: I'm not sure. I think that's a very dangerous idea. Because when we reversed history and impeached President Park Geun Hye, the Democratic Party of Korea worked a little bit with Kim Moo-sung, the leader of Yoo Seung Min of the Saenuri Party at the time. In any case, the National Assembly worked in the National Assembly and said, "Let's propose impeachment first," and many of the party's people tend to agree with it. But once I am impeached and go to the Constitutional Court, won't the president's duties be suspended? If that happens, the Democratic Party of Korea is currently shaking the government like this, and prosecutors and even prosecutors are now vying to impeach it. If the presidential office is suspended, there is a high possibility that it will be too dangerous for the government, both nationally and Yoon Suk Yeol.

◆ Shin Yul: Attorney Shin Pyeong probably thought like this. He said yes. I was talking about impeachment at the time, and in fact, there is no wrongdoing that deserves to be prosecuted right now. When I asked him like this, he said that one way of this is to get rejected like this.

◇ Hong Seok-jun: So first of all, I think that the proposal itself doesn't make sense, and the moment it is proposed, the state and the government will be in a state of chaos.

◆ Shin Yul: After taking office, Chairman Lee Jae-myung seemed to launch a TF dealing with a plan. How do you see it? That?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: So all of these things are linked, right? In the end, he will naturally take power through early presidential elections by bringing down President Yoon Suk Yeol with impeachment. In that position, the TF was launched, and Kim Min-seok is now the head of the TF division, and now the Democratic Party of Korea believes that Lee Jae-myung's impeachment and early presidential election are all linked.

◆ Shin Yul: I just interviewed Heo Eun-ah, the leader of the New Reform Party, and Heo Eun-ah was talking about the constitutional amendment on the premise of shortening her term. What do you think?

◇ Hong Seok-jun: That can't really happen. This is because during the last presidential election, the people, who are sovereign, elected a single five-year president in the presidential election. shorten one's term of office now on such a decision This is completely destroying the tribute right now. If the term is shortened and, for example, a four-year two-term system is implemented, it will be necessary to ask the people for their opinions from the next president to determine whether it will be implemented or not.

◆ Sin-ryul: But in fact, why is it that one of the most important spaces for maintaining the presidential system right now, and one of the pillars for maintaining the presidential system is the term system. But as a political scientist, I also think that this term system is shaking too lightly.

◇ Hong Seok-jun: Didn't we make a single five-year term system through the Constitution at the time of President Roh Tae-woo of the 5th Republic to prevent the damage of such a long-term power, which was under President Park Chung-hee in the past? Then, you shouldn't mess with the basic purpose of the five-year single term system, but if you do, you really need to ask what opinions the people have in the next presidential election to decide whether to revise the constitution.

◆ Shin-yul: I thought a lot that it would be better to set up a cabinet if you keep trying to shake it while doing the presidential system like this.

◇ Hong Seok-jun: I 100% agree.

◆ Sin-ryul: But the cabinet system seems to be difficult. Because politicians are so sorry to the people, I think it's because they hate it.

◇ Hong Seok-jun: Now, there are some advantages of the cabinet system, but basically, if a regime changes frequently, isn't there any confusion in the regime or any concern about state affairs? So we have to think about what kind of system would be good, but the stability of any regime in the presidential system is also very meaningful to me in some situations in Korea right now.

◆ Sin-ryul: No, the cabinet system. Depending on the following, it's been like this since the year 2018 and 2014. In the case of Germany, there are people who last long once they do it. Chancellor Helmut Kohl did that, and then we had Angela Merkel, the first female chancellor from East Germany since reunification. So, if we always have a cabinet system, it's very confusing. Elections are held every time. It's not necessarily like this, but I think we're looking at it with a little too much prejudice.

◇ Hong Seok-jun: Neither Japan nor Prime Minister Abe.E, However, those people are actually a little exceptional, and it is more common that Japan and Germany have often changed their prime ministers, especially in Japan.

◆ Shin Yul: Yes, I see. The time is running out, so let's stop here today's remarks. Thank you. It was Hong Seok-jun, a former lawmaker of the People's Power.