[News Fighting] Han Min-soo said, "If Kim Gun-hee accepts the Special Prosecutor Act, we will discuss the special inspector."

[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: October 30, 2024 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast: Minsoo Han, member of the Democratic Party of Korea


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[YTN Radio <News Fighting, Bae Seunghee]> Please reveal that it's about the interview.
◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): It's Bae Seung-seung, the news fighting. Let's talk with Han Min-soo, a lawmaker in Gangbuk-gu, Seoul, who is the spokesperson of the Democratic Party of Korea. Hello,

◇ Rep. Han Min-soo of the Democratic Party of Korea (hereinafter Han Min-soo): Hello, I'm Han Min-soo. Good morning, sir.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Good morning. Do you have any children? Sure. Do you have a son?

◇ Han Min-soo: There's an example.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, I went to the military and came back. You've been back.

◇ Han Min-soo: I'm in the 1st Division of the Front Unit.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see.

◇Han Min-soo: Army

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Sergeant Chang Byung. Yes, Sergeant. I'm sorry. It's because I'm good at singing. I think parents who sent in the military will be very worried if the North Korean issue comes out.

◇Han Min-soo: Yesterday evening, I ate with a lawmaker who has a district near the border in the northern part of Gyeonggi-do, and I'm really worried about the people in that area, and as lawyer Bae said, the parents who sent their children to the army seem to be worried a lot these days.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Really? Are you Kim Young-bae of the Democratic Party of Korea yesterday? I issued a resolution condemning North Korea's dispatch to Russia. However, the day before, representative Lee Jae-myung said this at this Supreme Council meeting. I think this voice is a little different, thinking, "Is it a country where shamans cut off chicken throats and decide whether to go to war by tasting chicken blood?"

◇ Han Min-soo: That's not true. It's the same, so I think it'd be good to look at those two. Representative Kim Young-bae made a clear statement about the key points of the resolution of the representative's proposal yesterday, but North Korea's dispatch of North Korean troops to Russia must be strongly condemned. If Russia and North Korea send troops like that militarily, this will increase tensions on the Korean Peninsula and certainly won't help. North Korea will be more isolated. I also condemned it, and the representative strongly condemned North Korea's dispatch of troops first in his remarks at all the Supreme Council meetings you mentioned that day. And I think lawmaker Kim Young-bae's resolution is the same resolution. Now, however, another pillar of concern for the Korean people, as I said in the beginning, is that this firestorm could spark a crisis on the Korean Peninsula, because rather than just any worries and anxieties, there were texts exchanged not long ago with Han Ki-ho, a former Army general who headed the National Assembly's defense committee, and Shin Won-shik, the chief of the National Security Office. Many people were shocked when they attacked the North Korean military and used it for psychological warfare against the North. So I'm very worried that the Korean Peninsula crisis will escalate and something unexpected will happen. The representative there is the public interest reporter not too long ago. Is it Kang Hye-kyung? You said something in the National Assembly. It's embarrassing to say this, but President Yoon Suk Yeol can't see the eyes very well.
◆ Bae Seung-hee: That Disability Definition Baro

◇Han Min-soo: Didn't Kim Geun-hee express that she was a shaman and sat on her shoulders? That's why we had a spiritual conversation. That was also shocking.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Maximizing doesn't prove it.

◇ Han Min-soo: That's right. He testified that he's a captain. So crisis management really requires the ruling party to play a role as well as the opposition party.Isn't the president and the government in power the biggest responsibility? So, I think it would be good to see it as a request to put the lives and safety of the people first.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But this resolution. He also issued a separate resolution on the power of the people. Wouldn't that mean more if the Foreign Affairs and Trade Commission released it together? Why did you pay for it separately?

◇Han Min-soo: Originally, resolutions are often issued separately. I see, and we discuss it with each standing committee or something like this. So, when the wording is revised and agreed, the National Assembly adopts it as an integrated resolution.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Will there be a unified resolution?

◇Min-soo Han: At the floor leadership of the ruling and opposition parties or at each standing committee,

◆ Bae Seung-hee: No, please tell me.

◇ Han Min-soo: We have to see that. We need to discuss it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Hasn't it been discussed? Still

◇Han Min-soo: Each party has its own consultation process.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. I see. This time, the Democratic Party officially mentioned the impeachment of Prosecutor General Shim Woo-jung, but it seems to be abating again. Are you withdrawing it?

◇ Han Min-soo: That's what I know. Because the Minister of Justice has ruled out the prosecutor general's right to command the investigation on the manipulation of the stock price of Mrs. Deutch Motors. I think there were a lot of discussions. Looking back now, I don't think the prosecution's investigation has been done properly. And not only did the prosecution fail to investigate properly, but it also lied that it would be caught immediately. The search and seizure warrant for Kim was filed in connection with the stock price manipulation, but it was rejected, but it was never filed the next day. Since it turned out that it was revealed that it is a valid or sufficient reason for the Democratic Party of Korea's push now.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Prosecutor General has good reason to impeach him. Look at this

◇ Han Min-soo: As far as I know, the president is excluded for now. I understand that the floor leadership is pushing for those who were in charge of the investigation.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. But what do you think the public's response to this is?

◇ Han Min-soo: The public's response? It's a bit unfortunate now, but when something happens, the majority of the people reasonably see that there is a real collective intelligence. When you judge, there are doubts about the various first ladies that we came out with a while ago. There are a lot of circumstances and transcripts, but there are one or two people who deny it if it's 100. For this reason, some pointed out whether this is right or not about the prosecutor's impeachment. Why are prosecutors not even healing judges other than the law? If there is a need, all public officials are disciplined or have judicial procedures according to procedures, but I think prosecutors are the only ones in Korea who are avoiding them.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: If there is anything wrong with this investigation, there can be appeals and re-appeals as a legal procedure, but if it is right to impeach the prosecutors who investigated the case, what do you think?

◇Han Min-soo: Now, it's a black-and-white thing, and it's not logical, but why isn't it like this? This is a political issue related to the first lady, and isn't it an incident that has been under investigation for four and a half years? Of course, it's now. Now that the president is a prosecutor, he's going with that power, but this has no choice but to be revealed, and if our opposition party points out the injustice of this investigation in a way that can be made public and the wrong part,

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. In connection with this, CEO Lee Jae-myung is about to be sentenced in the first trial. Members now Democrats. Representative Lee Jae-myung is conducting a campaign to sign an acquittal relay on social media. How do you see this? Would you like to join us?

◇ Han Min-soo: I didn't do anything.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: We're going to do it.

◇ Han Min-soo: No, we need to see it. I also saw that you're doing that, and that's because each individual is

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Not individuals

◇Han Min-soo: All the lawmakers have their judgments in the constitutional institution. Of course, I agree with that. Of course. Various prosecutions related to the prosecutor's representative. If you look at our anchor Bae so far, we have investigated the representative to the extent that he is really harsh because the Yoon Suk Yeol regime has been in power for two and a half years. Is there anything that's been revealed? So I'm doing a trial now. So, of course, Democratic Party members, supporters and lawmakers are convinced of Lee's innocence. This kind of performance to let the public know about it. I can do this. Bob

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You can do it. That's right. However, some of the supporters sent petitions regarding the trial and the Democratic Party of Korea talked about impeachment in the National Assembly, so the court asked who would be the judge.

◇Han Min-soo: I like it if the judges decide according to the laws and principles of conscience and conviction. At the National Assembly's Science, Technology, Information, Broadcasting and Communications Committee, which I belong to, I recently thought that judges are also the last bastions of our society. In fact, the court finally suspended the Yoon Suk Yeol administration's brutal control over the board of directors of MBC's visiting cultural broadcasting. I ordered a middle finger. So, I think there is a voluntary signature movement by our supporters and the people to urge these judges to make a conscientious ruling in our representative Lee Jae-myung's ruling because they think it will be the last bastion of our society. But I don't think the judges felt any threat because of that. And I don't think anyone who does such an act themselves loves our Democratic Party.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But in that department, while arguing with Kim Tae-kyu, acting chairman of the Korea Communications Standards Commission, Kim Woo-young of the Democratic Party was a judge-turned-subject

◇ Han Min-soo: Oh, I did that, but Rep. Kim Eui-young clearly did it wrong. No matter how angry you are, you shouldn't use that expression, and that's why Rep. Kim Eui-young also got really emotional and apologized right away. However, Kim Tae-kyu, acting chairman of the Korea Communications Commission, did not apologize until the end. When I asked that, I'm angry again, but I've never seen a high-ranking public official with that kind of personality and dignity in my life. Yeah, really? A person collapsed and even if he was his own employee, he was not his own employee. He was an employee of Park Moon-jin, but no matter who became it, it is normal to do relief activities first if a person has difficulty breathing. I'm checking if I called 119 at the time, and another lawmaker in my party was taking off his tie. In such a situation, a high-ranking ministerial-level official named the head of the Communications Commission rushed over and swore at him, saying, "Kill everything you can't say." So the aide next to him pushed it out. Why did you do that? It can't happen, so I dragged it out because it was dangerous. But in the end, he said it to himself. I was a bit far away. All of our MPs have heard. I heard everything. So I told him to apologize, but at first, we lied about not swearing and looked for the video, and if the chairman posted it on the CCTV, he should apologize right away. As Chung Dong-young said, didn't he also have been a lawmaker for such a long time and a presidential candidate? Rep. Chung Dong said that. If you say you've never seen someone like you in your life like this, you should have knelt down and apologized.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I'm not asking you to say that, but the part about how to perceive judges now

◇ Han Min-soo: That expression is wrong.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But if you say you're not guilty of representative Lee Jae-myung, but if you come to a conclusion you want, you don't think you're a fair judge if you come to a conclusion you don't want. If you come to a conclusion you don't want, you don't think you're a fair judge.

◇ Han Min-soo: What questions do you have now?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You're not saying that innocent is fair and guilty is unfair.

◇Han Min-soo: All citizens of the Republic of Korea are equal before the law, and we must respect the judgment of the law. What we've been taking issue with and pointing out is talking about the current prosecution. All the people know that the prosecution has not conducted a fair and equitable investigation. No matter how partisan they think, the prosecution is not fair now, and their side does not investigate. I know that Mrs. Kim Geun-ok doesn't even call her. I know, and based on such an investigation, wouldn't it be possible to prosecute now? If the judge adopts the evidence fairly and looks into equity, I'm sure a ruling will be appropriate.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: If so, we accept the ruling against CEO Lee Jae-myung no matter what the result is.

◇ Han Min-soo: Of course. Isn't that obvious? And even if the third trial is guilty, the Supreme Court, right. Until the third trial comes out to the Supreme Court, all citizens of Korea are subject to the principle of presumption of innocence. Therefore, if representative Lee Jae-myung is not guilty in the first trial, for example, it is the prosecution of the People's Power Yoon Suk Yeol, the prosecution of the Republic of Korea, and the prosecution of the Yoon Suk Yeol. Representative Lee Jae-myung is innocent. I'm going to accept it right away. Are you going to do it? I won't do it, and I'll appeal to the second trial right away. Why don't you do it? So, no matter what the conclusion comes out, we can look at it until the final trial, not over-interpreting it politically and politically, as well as the president. It's the same in the meantime. In the meantime, all the people judge because our people are wise.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I'd like to ask you an additional question. The principle of presumption of innocence until 30 seems to mean the period from the investigation to the Supreme Court, but the part about Kim Gun-hee should be investigated now.

◇ Han Min-soo: You can prosecute and prosecute, but call him properly

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I don't think the presumption of innocence is applied yet

◇ Han Min-soo: We don't investigate, do we?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Are you investigating? without investigation

◇ Han Min-soo: No, we don't investigate, but our people raise suspicions after seeing what's come out so far. Let me tell you one thing. What kind of investigation did you do? I don't know if you're going to argue with me right now, what investigation did you do? Have you issued a warrant? Or did you call him right and raid him? Did you summon him for questioning? You can't lie about that. I didn't investigate. That's why the prosecution goes all the way to impeachment. I didn't investigate, and I'll tell you just one thing. In the past, during the president of Kim Dae Jung, there were a lot of allegations of lobbying clothes to the extent that all people would think what was revealed later. What happened to that? I got all the people like the president of that Kim Dae Jung. At first, the prosecution investigated and the lawmakers finished the hearing at the National Assembly. Still, I did a special investigation because I wasn't good enough.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Speaking of the special prosecutor,

◇ Han Min-soo: We're done, aren't we? So, if suspicions arise about him, who is close to the president's wife, no president in the past has used his veto power to defend himself even if he has a little unfairness.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's why I want to ask you. Hasn't the revision of the National Assembly rules related to the permanent special prosecutor passed this time? The opposition party alone passed the steering committee. The power of the people seems to have gone out in protest, are you preparing for this permanent special prosecution?

◇ Han Min-soo: Of course. Would it be like this? We want an absolute majority of the Korean people to hold an independent counsel for Choi Hae-byeong several times. I want a lot of independent counsel Kim Gun-hee. If all opposition parties except for the 108 people in our National Assembly join forces to pass, the president trusts eight people who are just over the top and uses the veto power to trust 108 people. Despite being judged like that during the general election, the members of the People's Power collectively reject and destroy them. So what would you do? The number of prosecutors is small, the investigation team is small, the investigation period is small, and the target is narrow. As you know, however, there are suspicions that Kim Gun-hee was involved in the Sambu Construction stock price manipulation scandal, and then the scope of the drug customs drug case was reduced and a permanent special prosecution is being carried out.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: There is also a system for appointing a special inspector within the ruling party. If the Democratic Party of Korea does not actually agree in this regard, wouldn't this special inspector be appointed?

◇ Han Min-soo: There are conditions to agree. Please accept all the Special Counsel Act by Mrs. Kim. Then we can fully discuss it if we accept it and deal with the special prosecution law because the inspector system is not a past incident that has already happened, but is introduced to prevent what will happen in the future and is an organization that inspects the president's relatives and senior-level staff and staff of the president's office. How can you reveal the cases surrounding the current First Lady Kim Kwang-wook, various suspicions of involvement in state affairs, and suspicions of state affairs manipulation as an inspector now? It's a blur of the essence.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: The official position of the Democratic Party is that if the power of the people accepts the special prosecution law, it will be subject to a special inspector.

◇ Han Min-soo: Accept it for now. Do I get it if I accept it? If we accept it, we can fully discuss it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Are you discussing it? Are you getting it?

◇ Han Min-soo: We have to discuss it. If you discuss it and bring it back, please wait for CEO Han Dong-hoon now. CEO Han Dong-hoon also doesn't have time, so he keeps blurring the nature of the special inspector over there, but instead, he just talked about the 43-character recommendation of the Chae Hye-byeong case. That's right. Don't act separately, but propose. If you propose it after you propose it, we will fully discuss it. Aren't you in a position to discuss the Kim Gun Special Prosecutor Act with the power of the people? If you make this much concession, you have to propose it. You said you'd only look at the people if you wanted to accept the people's wishes.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: If we didn't discuss it, we will discuss it now. Do you recommend it then? What special inspector?

◇ Han Min-soo: Do you recommend Governor Kim Kwon to get the Special Prosecutor Act? You have to accept it and reveal the truth.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: There is a professor Shin Yong-hwan from Yoon Suk Yeol University's presidential candidate camp, and he claimed that he adjusted his schedule on the day of the presidential election based on a poll by Myung Tae-kyun. I think it's reliable.

◇ Han Min-soo: I think I will. Because Professor Shin Yong-hwan, I don't know anything about him, but his claims increased the likelihood that the two arguments were false. First, the presidential office did not believe that the power of the people in the primary, which was claimed by the presidential office, broke the relationship between the president of Yoon Suk Yeol after the primary. There has never been a public opinion poll that has not been published. There is a high possibility that Myung Tae-kyun's allegations are false. If you saw the results of the poll by the day of the presidential election, if there is such a report, that's why I heard that he has a lot of other data, so if you verify this, you'll find out whether it's authentic or not. In the past, the prosecution has already entered the investigation. Okay, I got it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Representative Cho Kuk is now turning a turning point in his term as president of Yoon Suk Yeol. It is said that the Democratic Party will file an impeachment motion in time, but the Democratic Party's position is, uh,

◇Han Min-soo: Our party has never discussed the impeachment of the president in a formal meeting or various discussion bodies. And impeachment of the president is a serious matter of impeachment of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, so you have to see it violate the constitution and the law, and so does the president of Park Geun Hye.I'm also a member of the National Assembly.Congress is just a tool to impeach. After all, it is the people who impeach them. I can't do this to our people. If you decide that you're not the president of Yoon Suk Yeol anymore, our Democratic Party should step up.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, you're a little distant from the Cho Kuk Innovation Party.

◇Han Min-soo: Rather than keeping a distance, each party also has their own thoughts and their own procedures, so it would be good to look at each party.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Today marks the 100th day of CEO Han Dong-hoon's inauguration. Do you think you're doing well as the leader of the ruling party? Shall we listen to it for a short time?

◇ Han Min-soo: You can't say you're good. I didn't do anything. I've said it a little, but since there's nothing, don't do it separately. As I said earlier, I really hope you say you'll only see the people who Lee Jae-myung mentioned. I see. Don't go and eat like this.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's all for today. I joined Han Min-soo of the Democratic Party of Korea in Gangbuk, Seoul. Thank you.

◇ Han Min-soo: Yes, thank you.