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[News FM Lee Ik-seon Choi Soo-young Issue & People]

□ Broadcast date and time: October 30, 2024 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Lee Ik-seon, Choi Soo-young
□ Performers: Kim Young-woo, former member of the People's Power, Park Joo-min, member of the Democratic Party of Korea

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◇ Lee Ik-seon: It's time for "Jungkook's Talk Friends". Let's take a sharp look at the current issues while there are witty remarks and stories, not Gang-dae-gang confrontations. Those who are with us at this time, comfortable friends. Hey, Buddy! That Buddy. I called him best friend. Rep. Park Joo-min of the Democratic Party of Korea and Kim Young-woo of the entire nation came out. Please come in.

★ Kim Youngwoo ☆ Park Ju-min: Hello.

◆ Choi Soo-young: It's been a really tight Jungkook lately, but it's been a long time since I heard good news like welcome rain yesterday. The government has approved the leave of absence of medical students who refuse to take classes because they oppose the increase in medical schools. It opened the door thanks to you. It is expected that this will speed up the operation of the government's dialogue, but Congressman Park, chairman of the Democratic Party's Special Committee on Medical Disruption, is a big contribution?

☆ Park Ju-min: I'm still meeting with concerned groups. It also continues to demand a flexible position from the government. Until recently, the government was in a position that it would follow the guidelines given last time when it came to taking a leave of absence, but during the parliamentary audit, the Education Commission and the Health and Welfare Commission said that we need to be more flexible about the government's attitude. So I think it worked to some extent.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: There was also a welcome voice in the medical community. A meeting of medical school deans nationwide in charge of education for medical students announced that they would participate in the ruling and opposition legislative council. The Korean Medical Association, which is in charge of residency training, has already said that it will participate in the consultative body if the government approves an unconditional leave of absence for medical students, but what judgment did you make while looking at these processes? Congressman Kim.

★ Kim Young-woo: Is the student taking a leave of absence or is it free? Of course, at this point in the medical crisis, students are going on strike a little bit in the past. Isn't it like taking a leave of absence from the alliance? Because of that, it gives political meaning, but students are free to take a leave of absence. So I did what I needed to do. However, the government has to go all the way to the formation of a ruling-opposition council. The Democratic Party of Korea considers it a beginning, but if only a part of the medical community participates now, the Democratic Party will not participate. I heard a lot of news like this, so don't put such conditions on it. There is our lawmaker Park Joo-min in charge in front of us, so we should participate quickly and solve it.

◆ Choi Soo-young: Last weekend, CEO Lee Jae-myung met with Park Dan, chairman of the Korean Medical Association, and the emergency committee chairman, and they met behind closed doors. We discussed participation in the ruling and opposition legislative council, and lawmaker Park was present, so please take this opportunity to introduce it. What kind of content is coming?

☆ Park Ju-min: So, the representative of the Park Dan major has seven requirements that they put forward in the beginning. So far, I have made it clear that I am in a position to adhere to those seven requirements. Of course, we said that we should continue talking, but we still said that the seven conditions we put forward should be resolved.

◆ Choi Soo-young: Chairman Park is sticking to it.

☆ Park Ju-min: But we decided to keep communicating. On the one hand, let's continue to persuade them like this, and on the other hand, let's be a little more flexible, as I said before. Since we've come this far, let's solve it quickly. In fact, the problem of the emergency room continues, but as the number of applicants for the national exam is decreasing, the number of doctors discharged next year will decrease by one-tenth of the usual, and it can become more confusing in March-April and March-April next year. So I'm in a situation where I somehow persuade both the medical community and the government.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: But I understand that the Democratic Party of Korea is not participating because its residents are still negative about participating in the ruling-opposition political consultative body.

☆ Park Ju-min: So it was our party that first proposed a ruling-opposition political consultative body. In the meantime, we continue to persuade both the government and the medical community to make it happen, and many medical organizations continue to create situations to participate and discuss and solve this problem together. So, as I said earlier, as the government became a little more flexible, it was almost there. In fact, he said he wouldn't even accept a leave of absence, but he accepted it now, and since there have been many changes in his attitude, we can discuss the quota for the year 25 without setting an answer. I've been trying to persuade him to do that. The medical community and the government are now taking a very flexible position, so why don't we have a conversation?

★ Kim Young-woo: But there are a lot of medical professions, so can't we start? Of course, he is an important subject of his major.

☆ Park Ju-min: The medical community is divided into different positions. internally So if an organization called A wants to join, B or C is unfortunately not welcome, can you do that? They react like this. That's why I have to make an effort to have a more unified position now, and the core is inevitably my major. So, you have to have things like persuading your major as much as possible.

◆ Choi Soo-young: I told the government a little while ago, 'But since you've come all the way here, please be flexible about getting the medical school quota for 2025, but in reality, this is actually the CSAT the day after tomorrow, will this be possible?

☆ Park Ju-min: Is it actually possible or not, if possible, how wide is it? To be honest, we can all sit down and talk about it on the agenda. But if you say you can't put it on the list of discussions, you won't actually talk, right? In any case, the other party continues to maintain that it is very important to be discussed, and the government should actually play many roles, but especially in protecting the lives and safety of the people, don't you say? So I think it's necessary to show a more flexible posture.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: With the approval of unconditional leave of absence for medical students, the massive paid enrollment was prevented for now, but there is an analysis that it is a problem if medical students return or if they do not have a problem even if they return. What does this mean?

☆ Park Ju-min: Actually, if we go like this now, there will be a garden when those who took a leave of absence from school return to school next year. There is an increased field, so 3,000 people suddenly becomes 7,500 people. But the conditions for educating them haven't been prepared yet. Well, I started picking professors. The classroom is also planning to organize a budget next year.

◆ Choi Soo-young: There's no infrastructure at all.

☆ Park Ju-min: I don't know. I don't think academies will do this. And a moisturizing academy in the neighborhood.

★ Kim Young-woo: You're going to have to take another leave of absence next year.

◆ Choi Soo-young: Okay. Let's go into full-fledged political issues. Representative Kim has been waiting for a long time, but the People's Power released the white paper for this general election a few days ago. But I think there's a side effect. There's a lot of talk about Maengtangbaekseo, do you think Kim is really Maengtangbaekseo?

★ Kim Young-woo : I am not interested in the white paper. To be honest with you.

◆ You're not interested at all?

★ Kim Young-woo: I said that making a white paper was useless. At first. Because after the election, we could have a debate internally, but we could have gone to the debate of responsibility. Then, the people who said they were making white papers did too much white paper politics. In fact, this is obvious because some people have just set targets from the beginning, only the president and Yongsan are cursing, while others are cursing only Han Dong-hoon, chairman of the emergency committee. Something obvious will come out. But it's not that it's wrong. I looked through it and it came in file form. To me, too. Looking at it, it was a very obvious story. So I don't think there are many people who read the white paper hard right now. I honestly think so, except for those who have put out that white paper. First of all, as soon as we lost the general election, we should have all gone into reflection mode. But at that time, the purpose of making a white paper was to whom should I pass on the responsibility more. So I thought, 'Oh, I'm going to make this.' From now on, the white paper is not important, but it's right to say, 'My fault is the biggest.' And no matter who looks at it, isn't the white paper about the whole thing? The nomination system was not in place. Even in the past, the nomination system has never been a scientific nomination system. I won if I was good at politics in the center and the president's office took the right direction and played hard in the party. That's why I published a white paper one by one.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: There was a civil war within the ruling party over the recommendation of a special inspector proposed by representative Han Dong-hoon as a solution to the controversy over First Lady Kim Gun-hee.

★ Kim Young-woo: That's right. This is the worst, whether it's a meeting to vote with something special or something like this. The best thing is that on these major issues, the president locked the door of the parliament, debated hard, and then the leadership used its political power, so many lawmakers gave these opinions. But we've come together in this direction to break through the current situation. That's how you present it. That way, we can raise our hands and agree or disagree with each other, even if we disagree with the problem, or divide it similarly. That's why I'm telling you to do something like that now that we're discussing it, but finding an agreement. It's a problem that we can't even leave this to the leadership. That's why I do this when I do this. That's when you do it. If you look at it in the past, that's why many lawmakers say this. At this time, lawmakers in the metropolitan area and other areas are talking about this again. However, in order for us to overcome this difficulty, of course, change and reform must be done, and this is the minimum.

◆ Choi Soo-young: Let me ask this question to Senator Park. Mayor Oh Se-hoon, Mayor Park Hyung-joon, Kim Ki-hyun, and Na Kyung-won met with the four yesterday and issued a joint statement. This is a bit of a criticism, a bit of a criticism, and a bit of a responsibility for the representative. Are you aiming at a representative who celebrates the 100th day of the inaugural press conference? Or did you ask President Yoon to solve the problem? How do you see this?

☆ Park Ju-min: I don't know. When I look at the entrance, I wonder what it contains. It was kind of crisp. I was confused. I was a bit frustrated because I felt like, "Who should I look at and what should I do if I put the requirements in a clear and specific way?" As a result, if it's Maengtang, the white paper is Maengtang, but isn't this Maengtang, too? I can't really read the exact message.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: However, the relationship between the government and the government seems to be only a strong conflict, and Mayor Oh Se-hoon said it in a bilateral way, but if you look at it in terms of weight, who did you think it was aimed more at?

★ Kim Young-woo: In my view, it's exactly Yang-biology.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: Is it 5:5?

★ Kim Young-woo: And the title is so funny. What is politics? That's why the members of the National Assembly gathered because, of course, the current situation is so amazing and worried. But I also said that yesterday, and people like this should meet the president. So, you shouldn't go like this when you're going to negotiate, do this with personnel innovation. And no matter what the lady's problem is, the political situation is blocked like this, so you have to stop all activities. I can't help it until the end of my term for two and a half years.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: You're describing it as interruption, not restraint.

★ Kim Young-woo: You can't keep your back. Because it's hard to show good performance now. even with good intentions So, there are a lot of people who don't like it even if they go somewhere and do volunteer work. Photos came out and people talked about it. Someone planned this and directed it. Also, the opposition party will continue to catch it. No matter how good you are, that's not why I'm telling you to refrain from doing this forever. Since half of the president's term has passed, I think it's good to go on a full suspension. The priority is to run the state administration. Does the activity matter now? State administration is important.

◆ Choi Soo-young: If you look at the picture distributed yesterday, it's a four-person meeting. It says it's provided by the Seoul Metropolitan Government. In fact, Mayor Oh seems to be leading a little, so can I interpret this now so that Mayor Oh's political future is covered like this?

☆ Park Joo-min: You must be having a hard time these days, too. Because it keeps being discussed in the suspicion of pollack bacteria. After that, we haven't been able to actively explain about that. So the suspicions are building up again. If the market Oh Se-hoon's strength is usually, it seems relatively clean. It was something like a politician who didn't look like a politician. However, since the suspicion of pollack bacteria broke out, it's the same. It's worse. There are comments like this, and they can't explain it again. In such a situation, if you want to rebuild your political position, you have to play a role in this situation, but I think it was ambiguous to make a strong message to anyone. I think that's why I only showed my image.

◆ Choi Soo-young: I see that it was for conversion.

☆ Park Ju-min: If the real solution was to be solved, we should have been more active in visiting the presidential office or issuing a clear message, as you just said, but I thought the title, which is ambiguous to anyone, was also wrong. Is the title wrong? "What is politics?" What is this? It was like this.