[News fighting] Lee Cheol-gyu, "Change people to attack the government? I'll tell him to come up with the government later."

[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 05, 2024 (Tue)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast member: Lee Chul-kyu, member of the People's Power

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[YTN Radio <News Fighting, Bae Seunghee]> Please clarify that it's about the interview.]

◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee from News Fighting. We will continue with the third part of the issue interview. The day after tomorrow, President Yoon Suk Yeol will hold a public statement and press conference. This is the interpretation that the conclusion was made in a series of situations ahead of the halfway point of the term. In this regard, I will connect to Lee Chul-kyu, a member of the People's Power, on the phone. Hello,

◇Representative of the People's Power (hereinafter referred to as Lee Cheol-gyu): Yes, hello. I'm Lee Cheol-gyu. Nice to meet you.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes, YTN's exclusive breaking news came out. President Yoon himself made the decision about President Yoon Suk Yeol's press conference on the 7th. That's how I explained it. It has nothing to do with representative Han Dong-hoon's call for a public apology from President Yoon Suk Yeol and a complete reorganization of the staff. It was reported that it was President Yoon's own decision. Is it right?

◇Lee Cheol-gyu: I haven't checked it specifically.I understand that Ma has already prepared for the president's office, thinking that it is the responsibility of the president's office to explain to the public this way and to understand the misunderstanding when he has already reached the halfway point of his term.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You've already prepared.

◇ Lee Cheol-gyu: Yes. That's what I know.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. So he drew the presidential office line saying it had nothing to do with what representative Han Dong-hoon demanded. Can you interpret it that way?

◇Lee Chul-kyu: If you've been watching the way President Yoon Suk Yeol ran the state affairs, you've been doing it without hesitation when it's time to do it. In particular, November 9th is the day when the term returns. I understand that you prepared ahead of that point. Rather, I think there was something that various voices in the party were worried that such things would fade.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. So, can you give me an estimate of what will come out about the public statement and press conference?

◇Lee Chul-kyu: I'm not in a position to participate directly, so it's hard to tell you in detail, but I think there's something that the people are curious about and particularly concerned about. Looking at you working, you are not the type to eat broom when it snows, but you are the type to deal with it without hesitation when you make a decision like this, so I think the people will understand and there will be measures that the people will fully understand.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: For example, I think there will be an explanation for the recording of Myung Tae-kyun, what do you think?

◇Lee Cheol-gyu: Of course, the record of Myung Tae-kyun is something that the people are curious about regardless of whether it is true or not. There are also things you're concerned about. However, I understand that there has never been anything that can actually affect the state of affairs, especially as a person who participated deeply in the election process, Myung Tae-kyun was never a person who played a leading role or influenced our election process. Everyone who's been to the election knows. When the election comes, everyone gathers around the candidate. I have no choice but to hear various voices. It is extremely worrisome that this distortion is known as if the election was illegal and then the manipulation of state affairs took place without judgment, such as whether it was a false demand or a claim or a reference.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. In this regard, in the Democratic Party. This time, I talked to the effect that I will release the transcript with Myung Tae-kyun related to Kim Gun-hee. Myung Tae-kyun himself is saying that there is no such thing as fraud.

◇ Lee Cheol-gyu: It's very unfortunate. I don't know how long the Democratic Party of Korea is trying to confuse the people and hold back the state affairs with those ghost stories. This can only be defined as a political instigation to water down the judicial risk of representative Lee Jae-myung, who is just a few days away. Whether it's true or not is being investigated, or the name is currently being investigated. In addition, objective data will reveal it. Simply speaking on the phone, knowing, and saying it by a third party shouldn't distort it like this whether it's all true or not. In particular, the most important part of the content at the time is the intervention of the nomination, and the party leader was Lee Joon-seok. Wasn't Lee Joon-seok the leader of the party in 2022? Both representatives Lee Joon-seok and Yoon Sang-hyun, who headed the nomination management committee, said that there was no such fact at all. In particular, a person named Myung Tae-kyun and CEO Lee Jun-seok are very close. I don't think it's helpful for the country to create this ghost story solely to attack the president with what we have to reasonably judge in this relationship.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: The calls for the replacement of the presidential staff have been mentioned over and over again. Even pro-Yoon-gye lawmakers have called for a revamp of the presidential office. Will there be a change in human staff in the presidential office this time?

◇ Lee Cheol-gyu: People and organizations always have to change and innovate. Also, no matter how influential people are, there will be cases where they can't properly cope with this changing situation if they stay in one place for a long time, right? Change to do that better Now, we may change, but I think that's what we should be aiming for now to change people simply to turn things around. But if you need people, you have to change people and the way you work to make air strikes. But what if someone tells you to change people unconditionally in order to just shake this regime and attack the government? Aren't you going to go like this and tell them to come up with the government later? I think it's a little different when they ask for this kind of loving advice, that they want to do well and they want to be able to go out, and they want to reform to criticize, criticize, and attack the other person unconditionally. I think there will be necessary measures and changes like this that the people will understand.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then, apart from the demand of representative Han Dong-hoon, the president is making a personnel reshuffle if necessary. Can I organize it like this?

◇ Lee Cheol-gyu: Yes, please. Since the beginning of his inauguration, the president will not do anything like this to change the situation, especially in relation to this personnel appointment. Didn't you always say that you would use the person you need where you need it?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Senator, I think we need to renovate our personnel.

◇ Lee Cheol-gyu: I think the meaning of reform itself is a little different. As I said earlier, in order to work well, it is of course necessary to find and write someone who can do better. I accept it a little differently that the other party should change someone just because they are uncomfortable because of political interests.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Rather, it's like "Isn't it the line" that the other side wants to change?

◇ Lee Cheol-gyu: So there may be cases where you can't do it because you don't work properly. Isn't there someone who can do better? So you can change that part to change the atmosphere or to do better. However, I think it's time for us to avoid such politics now that we hold it as if we're pressuring the personnel authority.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's right. It seems that the president's long-standing position is that he will not be happy with the president's approval rating. However, even in Yeongnam, which can be said to be a traditional supporter, negative evaluation seems to be increasing. How do you interpret these parts?

◇ Lee Cheol-gyu: It's a very unfortunate reality. A lot of us were a little lacking. There are many reasons for this.Regardless of the reason, we cannot help but admit that the people are concerned. Also, the presidential office and our ruling party are the same because they have not been able to cope with this wrong offensive well. There was also a lack of the ruling party. I think these are all complex results. I think we will be able to find our place again if we are more active in reaching out to the people and working, and if these suspicions that have been raised recently are excessively distorted and known by these propaganda campaigns are corrected like this.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Unlike past presidents, there were various attacks on Yoon Suk Yeol's president even before the opposition took office and, as you said, fake news. Gentleman, what do you think is the biggest reason for this drop in approval ratings?

◇ Lee Cheol-gyu: I can't tell you in a word.Ma still had a period like this when any government took power. Also, I had some time to work for six months or a year, but since the launch of our Yoon Suk Yeol government, the Democratic Party of Korea has tried not to recognize this regime from the beginning. They didn't want to admit it when they saw it. Then, according to recent reports or recent reports, those in the same party as the Democratic Party in the city will bring down the president in the middle of his term. In addition, there is a point where he has only set the goal of impeachment while saying that he will impeach him. In that regard, there were many complaints from our supporters about why they couldn't deal with the judicial risks of these people, such as Lee Jae-myung or representative Cho Kuk, quickly and strongly. So I think it's a phenomenon that has been revealed in combination of these parts.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: There is a position in which many things are connected. That's what they're saying. Yesterday, there was a speech explaining the government's budget plan, and Prime Minister Han Deok-soo read it instead of President Yoon. Rep. Bae Hyun-jin. He said that he only chose paths that he shouldn't go to. I made sure to attend. Do you think you have to do it?

◇ Lee Cheol-gyu: You can't look at which one is right or wrong. There are various opinions on the fact that the president has not given a speech to the National Assembly. Are you President Roh Tae-woo? Former President Roh Tae-woo came for the first time, but the next Roh Moo Hyun, former President Roh Tae-woo and President Lee Lee Myung Bak came only once. He came out in his first year in office at the beginning of his term and then he didn't. As far as I know, YS or DJ didn't come out at all. I suspect that various situations in the National Assembly and the current off-the-street struggles of the Democratic Party of Korea have played a role. Now, we can say that it's right or wrong with that inside us, but what's wrong with us speaking out differently? I think they may have different ideas. I will not evaluate that.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. Is the special inspector Lee Han Dong-hoon's claim going to hold a general meeting of lawmakers?

◇Lee Cheol-gyu: I don't know because I'm not the floor leader. We will have to gather the opinions of the lawmakers.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: There are many voices asking if the special inspector has any meaning in the situation where the transcript has been released.

◇ Lee Cheol-gyu: Yes, so in the floor of the lawmakers over there, I think that's what the democratic party looks like by gathering the lawmakers' stops and drawing conclusions in order to draw conclusions anyway.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: What is your position on privilege?

◇Lee Chul-kyu: I think that the idea of an independent counsel is against the constitutional values of those who want to conduct an independent counsel. What is the truth of the Deutsche Motors case when the National Assembly recommends a special prosecutor to reveal the actual truth when the special prosecutor does not take such action as power corruption or power of the administration despite the clear criminal charges? Why was the Moon Jae In government unable to prosecute the prosecutors even after nearly two years of full investigation? Why couldn't you even summon him? They didn't even go all out to attack then-candidate Yoon Suk Yeol, who they hated and wanted to somehow collapse, or the prosecutor general who rebelled against them. It's not that it's not. If it is swept away by public opinion and the investigation and prosecution should be based on the substantive truth and follow the law, can it be ordered if it is done according to public opinion? Also, you're talking about the Coporal Chae Special Prosecutor Act again, but isn't the actual truth revealing right now? What is the legislative purpose of the law made by the Democratic Party of Korea, which has no investigative power? Aren't you saying that the military should not be involved in deaths in the military and hand over the investigation to the police fairly? It's the fault of the head of the investigation who said they should do what they have to do under the law, investigate without authorization and indict some and indict others, but how is it the fault of the presidential office and the defense officials who corrected it? I think that the special prosecutor is not an independent prosecutor trying to discover the real truth, but only attacking the president during his term in office to get a plant government, or laying the groundwork for impeachment.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. Anyway, let's summarize by saying that the special prosecutor can't discuss it. He claims that he made an unpublished opinion poll report during the future presidential election of the Korea Research Institute, which Lee Myung-tae-kyun seems to have run in practice, and that a person named Shin had a strategic meeting based on this report at the camp. Has this report ever been utilized?

◇Lee Chul-kyu: First of all, I'm making it clear that our people might misunderstand. There isn't. At all, I filed a defamation complaint against Mr. Shin and the other Newstapa officials by publicizing false information requesting an investigation. If that's true, I should take responsibility. I'll take responsibility. Our camp has never received or used such data other than to request this credible institution. Also, I don't have a face-to-face relationship with a person named Myung Tae-kyun. Also, I only recently learned about the institution that the social research institute does. Don't you know what kind of path Mr. Shin himself has taken? I don't know what he's expecting from this so-called impeachment maul of Democrats, but how can he say something he hasn't forgotten? Furthermore, our Director of Situation is not actually a member of our Director Yoon Jae-wook's meeting. Also, how important is polling in an election, and do you disclose it at a meeting with a large number of people? The data from the Yeouido Institute we commissioned and the data from these credible institutions, Gallup and Korea Research Kantar, were not disclosed except for a few people involved. By the way, how can you say that such a thing was laid out at the conference desk and laid out as a file? I don't know where the chair takes such ridiculous data and rides on it, but I will have to take stern responsibility for it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Contrary to the attitude of Myung Tae-kyun, yesterday, he said that there is nothing more to come out of the Democratic Party. Why don't we listen to this evaluation of Myung Taekyun?

◇Lee Chul-kyu: I don't know what kind of person he is, but I'm not in a position to evaluate him. I make it clear that there is nothing related to me, nothing related to me, or our camp. I don't know how much I should trust him and trust him when I see him planting red plum trees while trying to manipulate them.Ma, I won't evaluate it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. In this regard, isn't President Yoon about to go on an overseas trip? Will Mrs. Kim be accompanied?

◇ Lee Cheol-gyu: I don't know. You'll make a good judgment. Looking at what has come out so far, there is no point in directly attacking our president itself, so the criticism and slander of Kim Gun-hee, the only family member, are too excessive. You can evaluate facts with facts and criticize them again.Ma made a ghost story and how did you do it from the election to now? It was in the transcript, but in the meantime, Mrs. Kim Gun-hee never called her brother when she called the president, right? She was always my uncle. As ordinary Korean housewives call their husbands, as they call them, they call them my uncle in Seoul's sound recordings and appear in many places. Nevertheless, by editing and distorting these text messages, it is as if Kim Geon-hee is the one who calls her husband a spouse, the president, and the people are uncomfortable calling him and expressing it again. How can any more rational dissolution be possible in this way of witch-hunting? Even in my view, we have to think about the national prestige of the Republic of Korea and attack them, no matter how much they attack the president for political purposes and lead to impeachment, but I think this is a wrong appearance that is too harmful to our country. For example, if there is a violation of the policy and the actual law, it is good to thoroughly examine and attack those areas.Ma is really bad enough. I want the Democratic Party to come out with a reason.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: CEO Han Dong-hoon said, "It's not the time to put the law first."

◇ Lee Chul-kyu: Political rhetoric. It is our lack of political ability to persuade and seek understanding from the people. The party and the presidential office government should try to understand and persuade the people, and prosecution should proceed with judicial proceedings even though it is not against the law. I don't think this is a separate matter, and I don't think it should be.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. Among the interviews mentioned today, the outline was omitted because it was the same survey as the one introduced before the poll. So far, we have been with Representative Lee Chul-kyu of the People's Power. Thank you.

◇Lee Cheol-gyu: Yes, thank you.