■ Starring: Seo Yong-ju, head of the Political and Social Research Institute, Yoon Hee-seok, senior spokesman for the People's Power
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[Anchor]
Political commentary with a living angle, let's start at the minute. Today, we have two people, Yoon Hee-seok, a spokesman for the People's Power of the People, and Seo Yong-ju, director of the Political and Social Research Institute. Let's look at the first topic. There are two letters that CEO Lee Jae-myung couldn't say. The Democratic Party held its second outdoor rally last Saturday. Here, CEO Lee Jae-myung said he couldn't say these two letters. Let's listen to it.
[Lee Jae-myung / Democratic Party leader (last 9th): I said this because I couldn't bring myself to say it in two letters, but it's time for the people to hold those who abuse their delegated power accountable, right, folks! If you don't obey the people yourself, let's hold hands together and make them kneel before us, everyone!]
[Han Min-soo / Spokesperson of the Democratic Party of Korea (Yesterday): (Representative Lee said, 'Two letters I couldn't say.' What are the two letters? ) I'm not sure. I'll wrap it up. ]
[Anchor]
Spokesman Han Min-soo is also denying that he doesn't know the two letters, but Director Seo Yong-joo seems to know. What is it?
[Seoyongju]
Do I have to tell you? You can think of it as a political phrase. You know it even if you don't say it. By leaving the line blank, it's something that gives a lot of people their imagination.
[Anchor]
Are there many different letters? Do you think it's just one?
[Applicant owner]
There can be a lot of things. Impeachment, then resignation, or a constitutional amendment to shorten the term. These three parts. In the end, President Yoon Suk Yeol's state administration itself is too much left, even though half of the people are more than half of them. Since there are many complaints that it is long, for example, if Representative Lee Jae-myung had said impeachment, he would have made a fuss again. How did the opposition leader talk about impeachment? But I'm asking you to tell me what you know in that way even if you didn't say it.
So, this part depends on whether you say impeachment or not. I don't think there's anything you don't know, that's right.
[Anchor]
If you can't say it, do you mean that you won't put that word up at the Democratic Party's official rally?
[Applicant owner]
It's burdensome for this rally to define it as an impeachment rally. The nature of this rally is the president's willingness to solve various suspicions about Kim Gun-hee's manipulation of state affairs, and the president's willingness to solve them and return fairness and common sense to the people. Since this is not a rally to shorten the term of President Yoon Suk Yeol, I think he has been a little careful in choosing words in that regard.
[Anchor]
It started as an off-the-shelf rally to push for the independent counsel of First Lady Kim Gun-hee, but the public continues to view it as a kind of impeachment rally. How many people gather, wasn't this also a concern? At the first rally, the Democratic Party estimated 300,000 people, and this time, 200,000 people.
[Yoon Heesuk]
The Democratic Party's own claims are also down from last week. The police estimate, of course, is unofficial, but it was reduced from 17,000 to 15,000. In addition, last week's rally, unlike the first one, was also joined by the Korean Confederation of Trade Unions. If you think so, citizens' response is very small. Even within the Democratic Party, there was not much gathering.
In the end, is it time for representative Lee Jae-myung to hold an outdoor rally at this point? There are fundamental questions about this, so the response is so low. As you just said, I understand that the impeachment of Yoon Suk Yeol and the reduction of the term of office were the goals, but on the surface, isn't it the implementation of the Special Prosecutor's Law for First Lady Kim Gun-hee?
However, only the third independent counsel bill has been proposed by the National Assembly, but it has not been passed. It's something that needs to be resolved within the National Assembly. It doesn't make sense for the Democratic Party of Korea, which has 171 seats, to come out and speak like that, so it's less responsive to see it like this.
[Anchor]
The Democratic Party, which proposed the Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act for the third time, is increasing the pressure. Looking at the decision made this morning, they say they will revise the amendment and the Special Prosecutor Act, what strategy is it?
[Applicant owner]
The majority of lawmakers of the People's Power have too many items in the third special prosecution bill. It has 13 items. It's 13 because it's a plus over from 8 existing issues, but this is too much. Even if the independent counsel is passed physically, there is a view that the independent counsel on 13 cases will be possible, so the public is asking for a quick resolution of this issue.
Kim Gun-hee was found not guilty. It was not a judgment, but a decision not to prosecute by the prosecution. Then, suspicions of intervention in nominations. Although Myung Tae-kyun is being investigated by the Changwon District Prosecutors' Office, I feel that this part will not extend to the nomination intervention.
Therefore, in this regard, it is clearly a level that the members of the People's Power can understand. And a level that the people can understand. In addition to that, if you add a third-party special prosecutor that CEO Han Dong-hoon claimed, what else can you claim as a toxic clause? In the end, it seems that the special prosecution plan will be revised to the extent that the share can be the power of the people and representative Han Dong-hoon and presented to the plenary session on the 14th.
[Anchor]
Park Chan-dae made this request to Han Dong-hoon today. Can you show me the graphic? I did this at the meeting this morning. CEO Han Dong-hoon and Special Prosecutor Kim Gun-hee pressed me to pay themselves now. Representative Han Dong-hoon, who gave a tail to the president and his wife. Criticizing him like this, saying, "Isn't he a typical strong, weak, and strong icon? Stop talking about toxic clauses and come up with a representative plan that the people can understand."
The Democratic Party of Korea has proposed an amendment today to reduce the cause for opposition, so how do you think the people's power will respond to this?
[Yoon Heesuk]
First of all, we need to see if the Democratic Party really reduces the scope of the investigation and makes the scope of recommendations reasonable. Since the Democratic Party of Korea has only used Kim Gun-hee's suspicions for political disputes so far, it can only be seen as a party that has actually had little concern about how to find out the truth by launching a special prosecutor. I think they're aiming for something like a disagreement over whether it's a division of our party by coming up with something in a hurry.
First of all, our party should listen to the Democratic Party of Korea at the negotiation table and decide, but we have firmly opposed the special prosecution law, which has elements for political strife, so we believe we are in that position. How it comes out of the Democratic Party is the most important factor. For now, I have no choice but to judge it that way.
[Anchor]
From Han Dong-hoon's point of view, Kim Gun-hee, the special prosecutor, is absolutely against it, is this position? How can I understand that?
[Yoon Heesuk]
First of all, that's right. As I keep saying, what point is the Democratic Party of Korea's demand for the special prosecution itself? Are you really doing this for what we call truth-finding? Or is Lee Jae-myung only using the independent counsel law by preventing judicial risks and attacking the president of Yoon Suk Yeol in this role? Don't you think we made a decision about that?
From now on, I think the Democratic Party of Korea has not changed its thoughts or intentions, so of course, I think it will be against the Special Prosecutor Act of Kim Gun-hee and the Special Prosecutor Act of the Democratic Party.
[Anchor]
In any case, although the Democratic Party of Korea has excluded several toxic provisions, the underlying intentions are the same, so the people's power will probably be opposed. How do you see that?
[Applicant owner]
I don't know what CEO Han Dong-hoon's underlying intention is. He constantly talks about the public's perspective and says that he will be on the public's mind, saying that he is chasing the public at the beginning of his politics, but in the end, he doesn't even come up with an independent counsel that meets the public's eye level. Even so, even though the president recently defended the risks against First Lady Kim Gun-hee through a press conference, he just couldn't say anything and got three things: personnel reshuffling, special inspection, and so on.
This is how satisfied I am. Is that really what the people's eye level is? In that regard, when the special prosecution that Chairman Han Dong-hoon first talked about could be seen as the public's eye level, so if the special prosecution itself, except for various toxic clauses, is burdensome, isn't it time to release the special prosecution that he claims? If he continues to lose his tail, CEO Han Dong-hoon will have no choice but to differentiate himself from President Yoon Suk Yeol and eventually couple the decoupling itself, which has accumulated his political mileage.
[Anchor]
You won't be able to differentiate yourself?
[Applicant owner]
It seems to be differentiating, but eventually it becomes sympathetic. Then, when you go back then and talk about whether it is the people or not, the people say that they are not deceived again.
[Anchor]
There are many views that if we change the scope of the investigation to a third party recommendation and narrow down the scope of the investigation, the number of votes will increase from the power of the people.
[Yoon Heesuk]
In the current atmosphere, that's less likely.
[Anchor]
Is it a single response to the special counsel?
[Yoon Heesuk]
The reason is that President Yoon Suk Yeol made a press conference and a statement last week, didn't he? From there, he responded to the three demands that CEO Han Dong-hoon demanded in the Yoon Han-han talk, and to some extent, although not 100 percent, the special inspector.
[Anchor]
Did the special inspector say yes?
[Yoon Heesuk]
That's how I interpret it. Therefore, at a time when the voice that the party had demanded before was accepted to some extent, there may be some dissatisfaction within the party, but it is highly likely to judge that the process of going all the way to the Special Prosecutor's Act by Kim Gun-hee is unreasonable. The Democratic Party of Korea says that the people are calling for the independent counsel law, but unlike Kim Gun-hee's self-reflection and his position on the mistake, it seems that such a demand came first. As the president has mentioned that part and public opinion seems to turn around to some extent, it is difficult for lawmakers who know the underlying intentions, no matter how much the Democratic Party reduces the scope of the investigation and makes a reasonable recommendation for the independent counsel.
[Anchor]
Then this time, the special inspector. So, on the 14th, Kim Gun-hee will hold a general meeting on the day of the plenary session to vote on the Special Prosecutor Act. Are you saying that there is a high possibility that the special inspection will be gathered in one voice within the medical gun?
[Yoon Heesuk]
That's how I see it. Previously, I expected that there would be a rough atmosphere about whether to go to a vote or not, but as I said, it should be considered that the part has been organized to some extent.
[Anchor]
Are floor leader Choo Kyung-ho and representative Han Dong-hoon also sorted out?
[Yoon Heesuk]
That's how I see it. That's why the date of the general meeting has been set. That's what the lawmakers will say, although they can come together and come up with various opinions, but in the end, they will leave with one voice, I think so.
[Anchor]
The power of the people is a special inspector, and the Democratic Party is a special prosecutor. So the Democratic Party of Korea is in this position that it will not accept even if the opinions of the special inspector are agreed on in the power of the people?
[Applicant owner]
So, you shouldn't try to roughly deal with the risks of Mrs. Kim Gun-hee with a special sense. Because that's what the people's eye level is like. It is a question of whether the principle of the rule of law in Korea is applied fairly to all citizens. This is the story when I asked if I could be treated like this like Mrs. Kim Gun-hee when I did this.
However, even if the spouse of the head of the administration, who has the right to investigate, eventually receives a luxury bag and manipulates the stock price, or even if there is a suspicion of nomination intervention. After all, is everyone really being judged by the same standards in this regard? The people are saying no. In that sense, it's too ridiculous to dismiss this as a special feeling. The special feeling is that I will do well in the future, forget the past.
But the people are telling you to do well in the future after you shake off the parts that you did wrong in the past. That's why the Democratic Party, if you want to get a special inspector who says, "I'll do well in the future, let's at least get things right about the past." If you correct it, it's a special prosecutor. Since the special prosecutor was proposed as an acceptance, the Democratic Party will argue that the special prosecutor who is good at shaking off the past and going forward will go hand in hand, and representative Han Dong-hoon will have to come up with a solution.
[Anchor]
Is it an independent counsel or a special counsel? Both the ruling and opposition parties are likely to come up with different solutions on the 14th, but I don't know how it will be sorted out. Anyway, in the case of representative Han Dong-hoon, after the Yoon Suk Yeol presidential press conference, the guns are turned out of the party. Lee Jae-myung's first trial should be broadcast live. I keep making this voice. Let's listen to it.
[Han Dong-hoon / Representative of the People's Power: The power of the Korean people is making various claims for the live broadcast of Lee Jae-myung's sentence. However, the Democratic Party of Korea is only focusing on intimidating judges, refusing to broadcast live. In fact, the Democratic Party's ruling, the Democratic Party's own ruling, seems to have already been convicted. And the Democratic Party began to use an operation to compare U.S. President-elect Trump and Representative Lee Jae-myung. I'll compare one too. Candidate Trump confidently called for the trial to be made public in November 2023 due to high interest from voters. This part is really important, but you're saying it out loud. ]
[Park Kyun-taek / Rep. of the Democratic Party of Korea (KBS 'Absolute Shooting'): It is simply a disgrace to make such a claim against the leader of the opposition party, which is believed and claimed to have been under targeted and political hunting for nearly three years. Therefore, I think that it is a violation of human rights to broadcast the scene of squatting in front of the judge and listening to the sentence on camera. What we can't agree on is now a demand from the People's Power lawmakers to broadcast it live, right? I think it's pressure on the court because it's premised on convicting him. ]
[Anchor]
He claims that he is likely to be innocent anyway, but then isn't it beneficial to the Democratic Party of Korea if it is broadcast live? This is Han Dong-hoon's argument. What is the Democratic Party's position on that?
[Applicant owner]
So, the Democratic Party's position itself is seen as a political dispute to bring down the image of representative Lee Jae-myung. But I think I can claim it once. Let's broadcast the trial of the opposition leader live. However, this should continue to be done to the court, and it should be done. I think it's too relaxed to explain why we have to do it like this.
Is the ruling party going to talk about the live broadcast of the opposition leader at the top of the table? It will not be enough to spend time taking care of the people's livelihood. So leave this to the court. Once he expressed his opinion, the court decided to disclose it according to the public interest, and Lee Jae-myung and the opposition party had no choice but to follow suit. Then if you ask not to disclose it, the ruling party can admit it.
CEO Han Dong-hoon is using this as a material to re-establish his identity within the conservative class. You look free. So, I know that CEO Han Dong-hoon is extremely wary of the traitor frame, and I understand that he is currently playing a more toned-down and push-and-pull situation, but I think the public will be free to make such remarks at the top of the court live, so I hope you stop now. Wait for the court's decision.
[Anchor]
Now, the Democratic Party of Korea claims that it is the same as the two former presidents, and that Lee Jae-myung has continued to be suppressed.
[Yoon Heesuk]
So to make the claim that it has been suppressed more clear, we are arguing that the dramatic effect of acquittal may be pursued by the Democratic Party. At least we didn't go out and make that argument. I don't go out like the Democrats, I don't go out in Congress and make weird claims.
It is said that they throw away people's livelihoods and make such claims, but the people will judge which party they are talking about. In the end, even within the Democratic Party of Korea, this sharp response to the live broadcasting is not so positive about the results of Lee Jae-myung's first trial, and this is what I mean, so I would like to see more live broadcasts.
[Anchor]
Anyway, I think it will be a week of destiny for CEO Lee Jae-myung. There's another key theme that's shaking up the political situation. It is the suspicion of intervention in nomination. Yesterday, a key figure, Myung Tae-kyun, came out after being investigated by the prosecution. Please show us the next topic. Anyone can recommend it. I am one of those people. Myung Tae-kyun said this while denying various suspicions that arose against him. Let's listen to it.
[Myeong Tae Gyun : Didn't you get involved in the nomination?] No, isn't it recommended by everyone? Doesn't everyone recommend a person? How can I not recommend it? In my view, it's because it's difficult for the general public to contact the president and the First Lady. Everyone wants to be that person, I think our region can develop further if we become that person, don't you express that kind of feeling? (Wouldn't it be a little hard to understand on the common sense line? ) It's your common sense. I recommend it to anyone. I didn't say anything because I was in a certain public office or a certain position, forgetting it. The president has a private conversation, and you have a private conversation. Then aren't you asking people around you? ]
[Anchor]
He showed his displeasure to the media. So, the core content is not nomination intervention, but anyone can recommend it. I just recommended it, right?
[Applicant owner]
If you tell Myung Taekyun, you shouldn't recommend it to anyone. There is a system for nominations and jobs. I think it's too abstract to recommend it to anyone. And he is not guilty. And the President and First Lady Kim Gun-hee, who heard it, are not guilty either. At the end, the president has a private conversation, and Kim Gun-hee has a private conversation. You can't talk like this privately. This is the problem.
If this was just a private conversation and it was just a recommendation that led to the nomination, this is the illegal part. So, I don't think it's beneficial for the president and his wife to talk like that because Myung Tae-kyun knows only one thing and the two don't. And you're currently here, so just look at your account. Some investigative guidelines are being issued to the media, such as
{My political funds, but all the evidence and circumstances are focused on the suspicion of the president and his wife's involvement in the nomination, and no matter what I say to block it, the public is watching it. So, because there is common sense and the rule of law in Korea, I think Myung Tae-kyun will no longer lead to self-destruction if he speaks like he did now in consideration of the time when he played a lot of media in the media before the prosecution's investigation.
[Anchor]
The problem is not just that I recommended it, but there are even suspicions that money was exchanged in the process of recommending it. That's the key, right?
[Yoon Heesuk]
That's right. There are some things wrong with what he said, but the first thing he said was a personal relationship. Isn't it possible for anyone to freely talk to the president
? It's not a personal relationship. Since it can be seen as a relationship that was connected through the election, it cannot be seen as a general private relationship. And even if he made such a recommendation, he should have done it to the party, not to First Lady Kim Gun-hee or the president. Isn't it so?
But where should I talk? I couldn't even judge that, and now I come out and talk as if I followed common sense.
There's also a money problem. As his disclosure and his recording were reported, there was a lot of atmosphere that was influenced by each of his remarks, but we now know that he is someone who doesn't have to pay attention anymore. I just hope that a judicial judgment will be made against him quickly so that the people will no longer hear that level of talk.
[Anchor]
There were reports that they threw away all their phones, but they also explained that they didn't know the password pattern.
[Applicant owner]
How triumphant were you before Myung Tae-kyun appeared at the prosecution? If he is investigated by the prosecution, he can impeach and remove this administration within a month. Then, I have 200 recordings of the president, and two of them are nuclear bomb-class, and they are overturned. We talked a lot.
Then there's no recording because you don't know the password pattern? This doesn't add up. I think he declared himself to be arrested because he saw it as one of the destruction of evidence to hide his evidence. If you look at the various situations you are talking about, you are a person who has no legal knowledge or awareness of the situation in politics. I think the bottom line is revealed now.
[Anchor]
In any case, another suspicion that arose due to the release of the Democratic Party's transcript was that Myung Tae-kyun's breath worked in the process of relocating Yongsan. I answered that part like this. Let's listen to it.
[Myeong Tae-kyun: (Do you think your breath worked before the presidential office Yongsan)? There's no such thing as that. Wasn't there a lot of talk about the site of Cheong Wa Dae not good at all, it was a hunting ground there in the past? I think you're worried about that a lot, so I just gave you my opinion. Doesn't everyone tell you their opinions? It's a part of the opinion that a lot of people talk about, and what would you do if you maximize that part? ]
[Anchor]
I didn't move it because of my breath, but the words that were circulating in the market, I'm just one of them. Do you think it's convincing to explain like this?
[Yoon Heesuk]
That's probably true. Most people will agree that there were many people who claimed that, and that they did not move to Yongsan because of that.
[Anchor]
It was not transferred because of pollack bacteria.
[Yoon Heesuk]
Yes, but the problem isn't just that. Aren't people surprised by the attitude of saying things like, "What's wrong with the peak?" You must have been very surprised by how he can be so confident when he talks to reporters when he comes out of the prosecution.
The public is very displeased about this, so I told you earlier, but I hope that a judicial decision on this person will be made quickly, so that it will not continue to be in the media. It's very unfortunate that it's going to be such a consumptive debate, I see it like this.
[Anchor]
It has no choice but to be in the media because the Democratic Party continues to release transcripts. But I think there will also be this dilemma. Director Seo Yong-joo also asked the question of whether we should trust her. As the Democratic Party continues to release related transcripts, there may be questions such as how much trust it gives to the remarks of the transcript and whether the Democratic Party is releasing them.
[Applicant owner]
However, the problem is that out of 100, bluster is about 80 or 70, and 20 or 30 has the basis of a skeleton.
[Anchor]
It's not fictional at all.
[Applicant owner]
From the beginning, he said that he knew President Yoon Suk Yeol and First Lady Kim Gun-hee, but if it was an issue that he didn't know without any possibility, everything he said is fiction, a bluff. However, the evidence and circumstantial evidence itself are KakaoTalk messages that I shared with First Lady Kim Gun-hee, fostering a president in Yoon Suk Yeol. From this point of view, I think this person has maintained a relationship with the President and his wife and may have exerted considerable influence in nominating candidates and expressing opinions. Does it make sense that Cheong Wa Dae didn't mention that before when moving to Yongsan?
That's how they gave their opinions. It's true that I gave you an opinion. But who got the opinion? Is this Mrs. Kim Gun-hee? Are you the president of Yoon Suk Yeol? There is always a person who receives an opinion. Then, when the agenda was set as a presidential couple, the president and his wife would have received his opinion in the end. Furthermore, if we make another reasonable inference, Mrs. Kim Gun-hee said she was a teacher. have excellent insight
I trust and rely on it completely. There's a Kakao Talk message like this. At that time, it is necessary to investigate whether what this person said was a simple expression of opinion, or whether Kim Gun-hee listened to someone she trusts and relies on as an excellent insight, or whether it was conveyed to the president.
[Anchor]
Do you think the relocation of Yongsan was also involved?
[Applicant owner]
In that regard, I've reached a situation where I can't ignore this at all. As a person of the people, I really hope that the relocation of Yongsan at Cheong Wa Dae was not caused by witchcraft. However, when I see what I'm saying now, it's a situation where it's hard to just say that it's not going to be clean.
[Anchor]
Anyway, the prosecution investigation has been conducted, and I think we will have to wait for the prosecution's judgment on whether to request a warrant. President Yoon Suk Yeol clearly drew the line at the press conference, explaining that. After the press conference, President Yoon Suk Yeol has been focusing on something recently. What part are you focusing on? Please show us the next keyword. It is said that President Yoon Suk Yeol has recently re-caught a golf club for the first time in nearly eight years.
It's because of U.S. President-elect Trump on the right. Former President Trump is known as a golf fanatic. Did you reschedule your golf club in preparation for the day we met?
[Yoon Heesuk]
That's how I see it. First of all, when President Trump was elected for the first time, former Japanese Prime Minister Abe was the first to visit President Trump, who was elected eight years ago, all the way to the United States. At the same time, we had a personal relationship to some extent. Since then, we have played golf together every time we meet, and we have talked about many things, creating a case in which the close relationship between the two leaders was used to strengthen the cooperative relationship between the two countries.
Former Prime Minister Abe even fell while playing golf while going into a bunker and cleaning up the bunker. That's how much I was very serious about playing golf with President Trump. If there is a strategy that can fulfill our interests in any way about President Trump, who has become the top of the superpower of the United States, not in this dimension, we should follow it.
So President Yoon Suk Yeol practiced golf for the first time in a long time. In the end, I will sincerely approach the relationship with President Trump in the future. It should be seen as an expression of that attitude of doing anything for the national interest.
[Anchor]
It is said that President Yoon Suk Yeol had a talent in baseball in the past. I'm not sure. Can a person who is good at baseball be good at golf?
[Yoon Heesuk]
Baseball and golf have a lot of similar swings. It's different from hitting the flying ball horizontally and hitting the standing ball down. Anyway, it's a rotational exercise, so I think you're doing well.
[Anchor]
I've seen a lot of articles saying that I'm good at baseball, so I'm looking forward to playing golf well. Anyway, if it can be used for diplomacy, it's not a bad thing to focus on this, right?
[Applicant owner]
It's not bad. In recent years, I think it may be the best thing to do in state administration. I had this thought. Recently, during the confirmation hearing with Defense Minister nominee Kim Yong-hyun, there was talk about the fact that President Yoon Suk Yeol and his wife used the golf course during the Bucheon Fire.
But at that time, I remember First Lady Kim Gun-hee or President Yoon Suk Yeol vehemently denying it, saying it had been a long time since they played golf. I think you've been preparing since then. First of all, if golf itself can be used by the Trump administration, I would like to prepare well and do it properly.
[Anchor]
Finally, briefly to the two of you, President Yoon Suk Yeol predicted that I would have a good chemistry with Trump, so please briefly tell us what the chemistry would be like.
[Yoon Heesuk]
I think it can fit well. Basically, the message you two are talking about is very fast, clear, and straightforward. So that's how you feel. They don't care about complicated things and go to the core, so if you talk, I expect that it will be a relationship where a lot of consensus can be reached.
[Applicant owner]
I'm worried if we have good chemistry. Because the president of Yoon Suk Yeol is a person who likes to give. President Trump is a person who likes to take other people's things. Then, in the end, if President Yoon Suk Yeol, who likes to give food, is swayed by President Trump and gives everything, what will happen to Korea's public space? I would like you to respond while thinking about the chemistry realistically.
[Anchor]
I also think Trump should practice hard because he is known to be quite good at golf. There were two people, Yoon Hee-seok, the People's Power Pre-lease Spokesperson, Yoon Hee-seok, the People's Power Pre-lease Spokesperson, and Seo Yong-ju, the head of the Political and Social Research Institute. Thank you.
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