[News fighting] Ham Woon-kyung said, "Minju, Kim are demonizing...It's not a crime to let the people down.

[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 13, 2024 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Starter: Ham Un-kyung, Power of the People, Mapo-eul, Seoul, Chairman of the Party Cooperation Committee

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[YTN Radio <News Fighting, Bae Seunghee]> Please reveal that it's about the interview.
◆Bae Seunghee: I'm Bae Seunghee from News Fighting. The third part starts. The controversy over President Yoon and his wife's alleged involvement in the nomination is spreading to the opposition party's resignation rally. In the end, there was also a physical conflict between the rally participants and the police. In this regard, it is called the activist loan. He turned into a conservative. Ham Un-kyung, the power of the people, invited the studio of the party's cooperation committee chairman in Mapo Hall, Seoul. Hello

◇Ham Woonkyung: Yes, hello.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You've changed from the godfather of the movement to the heart of the conservative, and you recently held a protest rally against the Democratic Party chief's rally.

◇Ham Woon-kyung: I've seen that Lee Jae-myung, the party leader, will be disabled due to his judicial risk. Anyway, I'm trying to cover up my sins, but I'm holding a rally, and I'm going to have to keep fighting back. That's what I had in mind.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Why did you expect to be disabled? Or you planned it from scratch

◇Hamkyung: I think. Now, some ordinary people have a judicial problem, and then ordinary politicians do so by stepping down and being judged and then returning, but if it's an end by any means, if you think the purpose is justified, you can do anything and everything. I don't know that very well. People are saying

◆ Bae Seung-hee: People from the sports circle.

◇Ham Woon-kyung: Yes, that's possible. Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the Democratic Party of Korea, will do such a thing. I made the prospect like this and then even if I'm convicted now, it's the same. Yeah, it doesn't discourage you. Rather, this is called political oppression, so it will continue to bite.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: What if you are convicted and you get a prison sentence in the first trial and you are arrested in court?

◇ Ham Un-kyung: Even if they are arrested in court, it would be called political oppression.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then in there

◇ Hamgyeong: Of course. I'll keep talking.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Oh, there are a lot of people coming out of the competition ahead of the Democratic Party of Korea's first trial sentence, but there are a lot of people who are disabled, and CEO Han Dong-hoon said, "I'm concerned about the damage to the test takers." What about this type of counterattack?

◇Ham Woon-kyung: I was in Namdaemun on November 2nd.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You were in a male class.

◇Ham Woon-kyung: It's called a counter-attack rally, so we were sitting near Namdaemun Square and Namdaemun Market, and we were protesting as a street promotion. Anyway, I made it pop-flip with a large spricker. The location was set like that, but it didn't look like it was in the past. Spies are now estimated to be 17,000 to 17,000 by the police, and the results measured by the crowd management system are only that much. Usually, even if there are only 100 people from 250 districts and only two buses, there are actually far more than 20,000 people. I think so. Yes. But it is far away from mobilization capabilities and such. No matter how many people are mobilized in the Gyeonggi area in downtown Seoul, it seems that the provincial government is quite weak.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: What is the reason for the lack of mobilization?

◇Ham Woon-kyung: Not very well received. That's what I'm thinking. This is actually going to take down the president. Even though I say this, it was Kim Gun-hee's special prosecutor who put it forward as a justification. It's been 365 days, a year, 12 months, and 2 years. I'm only talking about Kim Gun. Isn't it exciting about politics? Can we get a positive response from the people if we keep repeating this kind of story?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then if the nature of the rally changes and the president resigns or resigns, Kim Gun-hee

◇Ham Woon-kyung: It has already been continued by the Korean Confederation of Trade Unions and other social groups in candlelight vigils. You did it again. What this means is that I objected to the presidential election as soon as the presidential election was over. That's right. As soon as the presidential election is over, he insisted on resigning and started holding rallies, so he's been doing it for two years now. Can he respond to this? People are saying

◆ Bae Seung-hee: In addition, how many opposition lawmakers are there in the Democratic Party? I also created an impeachment committee.

◇Ham Woon-kyung: The National Assembly said they would do it now.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But impeachment is an act that can only be done after a certain offense occurs, and I know that making it first is out of order.

◇Hamkyung: Not correct. And the president did something politically wrong, like a serious crime or lack of will to protect the Constitution. Or incompetence, which will be the reason for impeachment.I can't help it. So, I don't know if I committed an obvious incident or thing that says I have no will to protect the constitution, but I don't have that. In fact, that's why they know it well. I know very well that it can never pass if it goes to the Constitutional Court, but I can't explain why it's just for Lee Jae-myung's bulletproof.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Then this entire disability rally is now being done to put pressure on the court to defend Lee Jae-myung's first trial. Can I conclude like this?

◇ Ham Un-kyung: He is even trying to reach an advantageous conclusion in the first trial by threatening the judiciary with more budget, impeaching the prosecutor to investigate, or being judged by a judge for wrongdoing.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Isn't there any recent violence at the KCTU rally? Representative Lee Jae-myung criticized the police, saying, "It reminds me of the scene where the white team indiscriminately assaulted the protesters." What is a white bone team and what was it like in the past to come up with this story?

◇Ham Woon-kyung: Lee Jae-myung, the leader of the party, would not have experienced the white-gold protests. I think it was when I was just studying to prepare for the bar exam. Yes, that white bone refers to the arrest team. The arrest team and the arrest team are the high-priced score, so if you arrest and resist or rebel indiscriminately, what is it? It was the Baekgoldan that led the suppression team even if there was a limit to the suppression team. Yes, so the goal is to use this white bone team to disperse the protesters, chase them, and catch them.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's a judicial police officer. a judicial system
◇Hamkyung: Wear plain clothes and piva, so

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's a helmet.

◇Ham Woon-kyung: I ran an arrest team like that wearing a helmet helmet, but I'm a little afraid of the arrest system. However, according to the police, people who are protesting should cross their police line to allow traffic to flow through the traffic control center, but they did not allow it to happen, and that's too much to call it Baekgoldan oppression. From the perspective of people who have experienced white bone marrow, they say that they are saying too much, but they talk about this too much. These are stories that have nothing to do with making people think of the atmosphere of fear like the 1980s through some martial law commotion or exaggerated rhetoric.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It has nothing to do with it. Rather, this incident has resulted in a series of police injuries, and the police chief is saying that it was not a hard-line crackdown.

◇Ham Woon-kyung: I'm also a person who got hurt during the protest over there, and I'm suffering from a serious injury to my left eye, but the police also get hurt a lot. In fact, if you are a certain amount of old people, you should talk about it in consideration of that, but you can't grow up to just say one-sided things. Facts

◆ Bae Seung-hee: We can say that such things as martial law of the Baekgoldan are excessive political offensive. Now, the Democratic Party of Korea denies solidarity with pro-KCTU pro-night groups, but isn't it actually doing it in the same place at the same time? Then shouldn't it be considered almost solidarity?

◇ Ham Woon-kyung: You can also describe this as solidarity. You can also call it division of roles. The division of roles. In the first place, the candlelight movement and the Korean Confederation of Trade Unions declared their objection to the presidential election, and have been campaigning for resignation since the presidential election was over. He took the lead in it and talked about it as if he had nothing to do with it, and one side told him to step down, and the other side said only Kim Gun-hee, the independent counsel. To say this is actually a blindfolded and an offensive against the current government according to the division of roles.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. Why do you think you're doing this to Kim Gunhee? From the beginning

◇Ham Woon-kyung: I think it's the weak link of Mrs. Kim Geun-hee, and it's true that Mrs. Kim Geun-hee made many mistakes, not that she did well. It's true that I gave you an excuse for that. However, in the eyes of the people, it is a completely different level to say that they are frowned upon and to say that they are involved in a crime. I think it's the former. The failure to disappoint the people and then act like the president of the presidential office or the first lady of the presidential office can be blamed or blamed, but it is not a crime. In fact, rather than just demonizing such bad feelings, the devil president keeps trying to make it as if Kim Gun-hee, under some kind of mediation, is the devil and Kim Gun-hee is the devil and is under the devil's mediation, isn't that too boring? I've been doing this for 2 years now.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: This is boring. Recently, former KCTU officials were sentenced to 15 years in prison for spying. The Democratic Party of Korea is not saying that all of these KCTU members are like this, but wouldn't it seem a little problem that these executives are suspected of being spies and that they held a cooperative rally in the same place as KCTU?

◇Ham Woon-kyung: The people don't know well right now. It's a very old case because they've been charged with espionage. It's been a long time. I think it's been more than two years, but this case couldn't be put on trial and the trial proceeded without detention. Even if they are suspected of being spies, the Republic of Korea releases them. That's what I'm saying. Being in that state now is actually what happened by taking away all the powers of dissolution of the anti-aircraft investigation and the investigation of the criminal and taking away the ability, and the judiciary is helping to do so now. So the judiciary is making a very easy judgment about this. But actually, looking at these contents, it's really terrible. We can admit that the Republic of Korea is now operating in the Republic of Korea and holding rallies, but it is another matter to enjoy the benefits of the Constitution of the Republic of Korea, such as those who are loyal to Kim Jong-un, who are completely different from that.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's right. a nonsensical

◇Ham Woon-kyung: In that respect, he should have been judged by the law early, but he was tried without detention, and the trial was delayed after being neglected for a long time, and now the sentence has been dropped. But it means you've been active all this time.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: That's right. Activities outside

◇Hamkyung: I did. And it's not just one or two people. In fact, this organization is the core of the current organizational case, the person who holds the basis of the organization of the Korean Confederation of Trade Unions, and I know him. Sure. So I never imagined that he would have done such a pledge of allegiance to Kim Jong-un.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I see. Yes, I know, but I didn't know it was a spy. Anyway, I wonder if there are spies in this era, but there are real spies.

◇ Ham Woon-kyung: There is. Example

◆ Bae Seung-hee: The fact that the Democratic Party of Korea is with the KCTU like this itself is not something that the people see as what is this? I see. Representative Lee Jae-myung will be sentenced to the first trial of violating the Public Official Election Act on the 15th. Think there's a possibility of being convicted.

◇Ham Woon-kyung: I'm just guilty of this if anyone has common sense. And you have to get a sentence of more than 1 million won to receive it. As I hear now, some Democrats have made some wrong legal battles. A legal battle. I mean, you usually admit to the facts about election violations. But I made a mistake. It's not the sentence that can come out when you say this. I never know that I am innocent. Some legal experts from the Democratic Party of Korea say that it is really a lack of strategy and a mistake to say that the construction of Baekhyun-dong was done under pressure from the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport. So, you should have adjusted the sentence and tried it. You're not guilty at all. You're a political oppression. You're saying,

◆ Bae Seung-hee: I think this part is a little wrong. Anyway, you're going to be guilty. These words are

◇ Hamgyeong: That's right. Yes.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Representative Han Dong-hoon has been highlighting the judicial risks of Representative Lee Jae-myung every day, but he has set an angle with President Yoon. Now, he is attacking CEO Lee Jae-myung. What's the reason?

◇Ham Woon-kyung: It's a bit unfortunate that CEO Han Dong-hoon is still like that.Ma, I think we should have highlighted the judicial risk issues of the Lee Jae-myung Democratic Party. But I haven't done that in the meantime. Actually, from the time I came out as the Supreme Council member, this issue will be an important issue, and we need someone to keep pressing and fighting about it. In that respect, CEO Han Dong-hoon should have put this issue at the forefront and set an angle together, but he neglected it a lot in that regard. I'm also evaluating it like this. The current timing of the 15th is as much as possible by the 15th and 25th to inform the people of how much this criminal is against Lee Jae-myung's judicial risk.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. As for the Hong Joon Pyo market. I don't know if you have recently entered the People's Power Bulletin Board, but it is said that Han Dong-hoon is a person with the same name on the People's Power Bulletin Board. And there are many names of Han Dong-hoon's family members of the same name, but if you look at the bulletin board, not only President Yoon's wife's slander but also malicious comments were posted, so Mayor Hong urged the investigation and the rest of the Supreme Council members should conduct a party audit, but Han's position is a little ambiguous. What do you think?

◇ Ham Woon-kyung: It's best to investigate this quickly and organize it quickly. Why do we need to be sluggish with this?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Why do they keep this conflict?

◇Ham Woon-kyung: I'm not sure about that. I'm like that. Why is there a reason to drag it like that when it's the cleanest thing to deal with quickly?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You mean CEO Han Dong-geun, clean up. The People's Power is now responding to the Democratic Party's Special Prosecutor Kim Gun-hee Act with a special inspection team. What will be concluded at tomorrow's General Assembly?

◇Ham Woon-kyung: I hope a conclusion will be reached at the general meeting of the National Assembly. I think like this, but on the one hand, what I think is that it's not that we don't appoint a special inspector. That's right. It was kind of weird. I don't understand why we should put this to a vote when it's up to the Democrats. I'm just saying that I'll just urge you and finish it on this line, but I'm saying that we'll receive this if the president's position at the general meeting of the lawmakers is also done by the National Assembly.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: But the first thing CEO Han Dong-hoon insisted on was the special inspector.

◇Ham Woon-kyung: Actually, this timing has been a problem for me since then, but I want the president to do some special measures, such as Deutsche Motors and Diorback, or summon the prosecution to go public. I kept thinking like this. So I hope you can get rid of this problem quickly. The two things that the Democratic Party is talking about are things that make no sense except Deutsche Mortos and Diorback. In fact, some people say that Myeongtaek is a gate, but it's not a gate, but they're looking into the nomination process, so they're going to listen to the entire process of nominating people's power. That doesn't make sense. Other than that, the people are still lacking. Even though the prosecution did so, if it's not enough, I wanted to ask you why you didn't prosecute the two things and ask you to prosecute them. There's a timing for everything like that, but it's not the right timing. After the sentence of Lee Jae-myung after the 25th, it may be considered as a solution, but now it is the most important time to fight to imprint on the people that Lee Jae-myung is a criminal. I'll look at it like this.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You're talking about CEO Han Dong-hoon. Yes, I see. Thank you for your words today. I'll stop here. Thank you. Until now, Ha Moon-kyung was the chairman of the Mapo-eul Party Cooperation Committee in Seoul. Thank you.

◇Ham Woon-kyung: Yes, thank you.