[Correct] Myung Tae Gyun and Kim Youngsun, "With Arrest"...Mrs. Kim's new 5 million won detonator?

■ Host: Kim Sun-young Anchor
■ Starring: Attorney Lee Seung-hoon, Attorney Seo Jeong-wook

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[Anchor]
Let's start with a political commentary with a lively angle.

Today, lawyer Seo Jung-wook and lawyer Lee Seung-hoon came out. Welcome.

Let's look at the first keyword. In the end, it's a confinement process.

Myung Tae-kyun and former lawmaker Kim Young-sun will undergo a warrant review this afternoon. We need to see what's the issue first, but in the end, the money between the two is the problem, right?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
That's right. They lend money and pay it back. That's why they say they're not guilty.Ma was received by the prosecution in return for the nomination. It is very illegal because Myung Tae-kyun asked for someone to nominate and received 240 million won each from two candidates, People's Power A and B, and this is a violation of the Political Fund Act and eventually took the nomination as bait. So you have to be restrained. A warrant has been requested for this purpose.

[Anchor]
Myung Tae-kyun continues to claim that he has paid back the money he lent. Let's hear what kind of argument you made earlier.

[Myeong Tae-gyun (last 9th): (You said you didn't receive even 1 won, but didn't you receive the salary of former lawmaker Kim Young-sun every month? ) You received the money I lent you, do you know how much I lent you? (How much did you lend me? ) I wrote it down. 60 million won. I lent you 30 million won and 90 million won. Please cut my bangs and just have the back of my hair and don't write such articles on it. ]

[Kim Young-sun / Former lawmaker (last 4th): I don't know why Kang Hye-kyung gave the money to someone. I told Kang Hye-kyung that she spent money on me, but when I asked for a statement of expenditure, I said I would spend half of my salary for other purposes, put 5 million won, put 2 million won, put 100,000 won, and repay the debt at that time. Since Kang Hye-kyung is an accountant, she has full power when it comes to political funds deposit and withdrawal. I have senior supervisory authority. Kang Hye-kyung asked for it, so I put money in my bank account regularly instead of receiving a confirmation of payment of debt. [What I'm saying is that there's no sign of money spent on me, so it's a scam]

[Anchor]
The two are denying the allegations like this. So, Myung Tae-kyun claims that he paid off the borrowed money, but doesn't the debt relationship come out quickly if you track the flow of funds?

[Jungwook Seo]
I didn't ask the prosecution exactly to the investigation team, but when I asked a junior I knew to the prosecution, I heard it indirectly, but the prosecution said it was a little ambiguous. There's this 90 million won transaction. Strictly speaking, it should be about 7600. Does this become a political funding law that falls flat? It's because Myung Tae-kyun received this, but he's not a politician. Usually, when politicians receive money illegally, it is the Political Fund Act. But isn't this rather a politician giving money? So this part doesn't fall out exactly, and there are a lot of ambiguous legal disputes, and there are a lot of fact disputes, but there are two candidates, each with 120 million.

[Anchor]
It's a suspicion that they sold nominations.

[Jungwook Seo]
If you look at Kim Young-sun and Myung Tae-kyun as accomplices, Kim Young-sun is a politician. Then even non-politicians can become accomplices with politicians. Therefore, I predict that the warrant will fall because of 240 million won, but I think we need to check the facts more for the first 9,000 won.

[Anchor]
If you show the graphic again, the charges are largely divided into two. The key charges that will be contested at the warrant review this afternoon are as follows. It means that the two are accomplices in the nomination business, which received 76 million won from former lawmaker Kim to Myung and 240 million won from the candidates for local elections who explained just now. This is the prosecution's argument, so how do the two refute it?

[Lee Seung-hoon]
I understand that one of the candidates A and B in the local elections confessed. I understand that he said he gave money in return for the nomination, and one denied that he lent it, not in return for the nomination. Even so, looking at related transcripts and such, it seems that it was right to receive it in return for the nomination. In particular, Myung Tae-kyun said I lent him money and received it. However, lawmaker Kim Young-sun thought he borrowed it and paid it back, but it was the money he didn't borrow. Who lied? Isn't it funny that Kang Hye-kyung lied?

You didn't even know you borrowed the money and paid it back? This doesn't make sense in itself and did you see half of the salary being paid back when you paid back? The fact that you pay back 10 million won at a time or 20 million won at a time is very likely to have received it because Myung Tae-kyun asked me to give you half of the salary you receive because I nominated you, and that's why I deny the statement, so there is a very high possibility that an arrest warrant will be issued.

[Anchor]
First of all, regarding the alleged violation of the Political Fund Act, you pointed out that since Myung Tae-kyun is not a politician, that part could be ambiguous, how did you see that?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
At first, a politician said, "How can Myung Tae-kyun receive money when Kim Young-sun receives money?" The Political Fund Act says that no one can receive political funds. It's anyone's subject. Since it is said that no one should receive money related to the recommendation of candidates for public office, the prosecution's indictment is that Kim Young-sun's influence on the recommendation of candidates for public office was influenced and received money, so it will become a political fund law, and there will be no problem in that regard.

[Jungwook Seo]
If you do it as it was, if there is a period left, it is stipulated in the Public Official Election Act. Under the Public Official Election Act, no one is allowed to receive money and valuables related to the nomination of candidates. But the statute of limitations for the Public Official Election Act is 6 months. That's why the prosecution can't do it under the Public Official Election Act. Usually, people who got paid for nominating candidates. Recently, the Cheong Wa Dae administrator wrote a hundred words and I'll help you with the nomination. This is a crime of fraud and punishment under the Public Official Election Act. However, the Public Official Election Act has passed its statute of limitations and it is difficult to prove that it is not a fraud, so it was forced to be woven into the Political Fund Act. Probably, since lawmaker Kim Young-sun is a politician, it is wrong to receive the money and Myung Tae-kyun should have participated in it, but the person who gave the money was not a politician because he took me to Acrobista after seeing Myung Tae-kyun. There's a legal dispute over this part, too. Therefore, the statute of limitations of the election law has passed legally. It's composed, so I think we should probably be judged.

[Anchor]
Former lawmaker Kim Young-sun is saying that Kang Hye-kyung did everything. Kang Hye-kyung was in charge of accounting. But Kang Hye-kyung didn't get a warrant this time, so how should I look at that?

[Jungwook Seo]
Kang Hye-kyung is probably Jung Beom. This is the final returner of the money, not a person who has benefited, but in a word, isn't it just an errand, a practitioner, an accounting officer. So these people don't usually ask for a warrant.

[Anchor]
Regarding the suspicion of nomination business, the prosecution pointed out that the two were accomplices, but Myung Tae-kyun played a role in nomination business, and in the case of former lawmaker Kim Young-sun, he gave up his position as a lawmaker. What does this mean?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
This is a disastrous situation. You can see that if you are influenced by a person, a lawmaker will become a pants president, nothing. From Kim Young-sun's point of view, she wants to be a member of the National Assembly, but it seems that Myung Tae-kyun talked to First Lady Kim Gun-hee and President Yoon Suk Yeol to make it for her. So, there is a rumor that lawmaker Kim Young-sun gave up half of his salary and even gave up his right to appoint an aide. Then why did lawmaker Kim Young-sun try to do politics in that way? I remember you as a judge. That kind of person is being tried right now. The fact that someone who knows the law better than anyone else is acting like that means that the system will collapse and the nomination system will collapse if secret lines work in relation to such important things as nomination. And it becomes a flag mess.

[Anchor]
They claim that they paid back the borrowed money, but if you look into the details, isn't this proven to be a price to some extent if former lawmaker Kim Young-sun was a pants owner and was close enough to return the salary? What do you think?

[Jungwook Seo]
That's right. First of all, I've never heard that lawmaker Kim Young-sun is a judge. As far as I know, it's a lawyer's practice in 20 terms, but you'll have to check it out. Someone said he was a judge before. I've known it since the first election, so it looks like that. The next important thing is who is the main culprit in this case, Kim Young-sun and Myung Tae-kyun. This is very important. Although the sentence is important in future trials. The reason why this logic is weird is the Political Fund Act I mentioned earlier.

In principle, since Kim Young-sun is a politician, he should be the main culprit and Myung Tae-kyun should participate in the warrant, but if you look at the warrant request, Myung Tae-kyun will give the nomination. Rather, it's like aiding and abetting that Kim Young-sun, the identity criminal, helped there. So, if you think about it now, politicians should be the main culprit, but since Myung Tae-kyun was the main culprit of the nomination business and Kim Young-sun participated a little, both were considered politicians and were indicted under the Political Fund Act, so I think the main culprit is Myung Tae-kyun.

[Anchor]
In any case, since it is the first judgment of the court regarding this case, we will have to look into what kind of judgment the court will make today and whether or not a warrant is issued, but this is the most important part. The prosecution tried to destroy evidence. Will this be a big variable at the crossroads because Myung Tae-kyun has eliminated several mobile phones?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
I think it will play a very important role. From Myung Tae-kyun's point of view, I buried my cell phone in my father's grave, but I'll burn it down. This was a message about Yongsan. A message asking for help. But from the perspective of the prosecution or the court, are you destroying the evidence? And there's talk of forensics on that cell phone. It's also said that some of them have it as a USB storage device. Then, you have these pieces of evidence at any time, and you can discard them at any time, so the reason for arrest in this part, the destruction of evidence, is very high. In the case of Representative Kim Young-sun, he went into hiding for a while and suddenly applied for an arrest warrant because he said he was carrying a cell phone in his mother's name. In the end, there is a high risk of flight and destruction of evidence, so I think it will probably be arrested.

[Anchor]
I threw it away because I didn't know the password pattern, and I wonder how the court will accept this. How do you see it?

[Jungwook Seo]
I won't even think about destroying evidence in the court now and worrying about fleeing. In the end, a serious criminal charge was cleared or not. Legally. If this happens, I'll destroy the evidence and run away. There are always two restriction requirements. First of all, there's a legal dispute in the front. Let's focus on that.

[Anchor]
But aren't there many cases of being arrested because of the back?

[Jungwook Seo]
But this case is anyone's fear of destroying evidence or fleeing. Then there's the destruction of evidence no matter who looks at it. I haven't seen a case where the cell phone is completely discarded in criminal psychology. They must have hidden it somewhere. But I don't think it's my father's oxygen. I'm sure they hid it somewhere else. I don't know when I'll need it. Therefore, if you look at various excuses, there are so many destruction of evidence that it is not worth considering by the judge. And you're denying it again. If you deny it, it's usually seen as destroying evidence. Therefore, I expect both warrants to be issued.

[Anchor]
You're saying that there's a high possibility of arrest for both. Some people say that fate may be mixed, but what do you personally think about it?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
What I think will be arrested is that the amount was 240,000 won from the preliminary candidates for the power of the people. Then the amount itself is very large. I also received money from Representative Kim Young-sun. And you're being criticized socially. And since some public offices eventually show the state of hawking sold, I think it will be seen strictly from the judge's point of view. And there are a lot of illegal money where this money is used. There are talks about the cost of opinion polls and the cost of manipulating public opinion, and whether this was reported to First Lady Kim Gun-hee or the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. Therefore, it seems that there is a high possibility of issuing a warrant because it is necessary to conduct an in-depth investigation.

[Anchor]
Now that all of Myung Tae-kyun's mobile phones have disappeared, the prosecution's investigation will inevitably accelerate if these two key people are arrested anyway. There are many other brain tubes left. The 5 million won that First Lady Kim Kun-hee gave to Myung Tae-kyun is what kind of money should it be considered as "golden salary" and "transportation expenses"?

[Jungwook Seo]
I think it's money that has nothing to do with the nomination. 500 is too small for the nomination. The polls are 370. People say this, but 500 doesn't make sense. It's Changwon in the countryside. There are some people who come and go from the provinces several times and have some insight into political advice. I had contact with Rep. Kim Jong-in. Also, I had contact with Lee Joon-seok and Chun Ha-ram, and then I went back and forth, including transportation costs. It's hard to call it transportation expenses, but there are various advice and help including transportation expenses, so as an expression of gratitude, I think I gave about 500 as an expression of gratitude without any conditions, but I think they gave it to me with their own money. There won't be any problems.

[Anchor]
Anyway, it's a little too much to call it transportation expenses and too little to call it a price for nomination, and there are mixed talks about 5 million won right now. If you show us the graphic again just now, in the case of Myung Tae-kyun, this is what he claims. Mrs. Kim Gun-hee claims that the money was given to her, saying, "Buy children snacks and pay for transportation." Kang Hye-kyung claims this. Myung Tae-kyun boasted that he received a golden salary from First Lady Kim Gun-hee in early June 2022, after former lawmaker Kim Young-sun was elected, and I heard it as an encouragement for helping the presidential election and polling. Is it a difference in memory? How do I look at it?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
First of all, Myung Tae-kyun doesn't talk about the timing of the money delivery. It is still hidden because the crime can vary depending on the period. You don't even talk about the amount. The larger this amount, the more burdensome it is for Mrs. Kim Gun-hee.

[Anchor]
Why is the timing important?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
The timing is probably an exclusive article of a certain newspaper. They gave it to me in September. That's when candidate Yoon Suk Yeol joins the people's power and the race begins. And it's when the polls are going around. And likewise, the Korea Future Research Institute, or the Korea Future Research Institute, conducted a poll that Myung Tae-kyun actually had. Then it's very likely that this money is the price for the polls. What's going on in return for a 37,000 poll? 5 million won could have gone to the nomination and plus alpha for lawmaker Kim Young-sun. This is 5 million won. It's called the transportation fee. According to Myung Tae-kyun, he continued to poll and report the report to the president of Yoon Suk Yeol while traveling to and from Seoul. Then, it is likely that one of those expenses was given as an expression of gratitude, and I think this is a violation of the Public Official Election Act, whether it is for children's snacks or transportation. That's why there's a sentence for Kim Hye-kyung today. I had a 100,000 won meal. In that regard, I think the 5 million won part will be more prominent and problematic.

[Anchor]
First of all, Myung Tae-kyun, who received this money, didn't set the timing to see how he would see this 5 million won. Former National Assembly Secretary-General Yoo In-tae said this.

[Yoo In-tae / Former Secretary-General of the National Assembly (CBS 'Kim Hyun-jung's News Show'): I can give you money. To someone who helped so much. (Can you give me 5 million won? However, he was like a teacher who was not supposed to give it to the election even afterwards, but relied on it a lot. According to the transcript over there, Mrs. Kim relies so much on Mr. Myung. Anyway, if you go back and forth to Seoul, it will cost a lot of money, so you can give it to him. Then, it would be a lot of money to give 5 million won to the First Lady Kim Hye-kyung's wives if they approached them in the way they do with the current election law. I bought less than 100,000 won for food. Isn't that a sentence today? That's. Compared to that, this is a big one. ]

[Anchor]
If you go back and forth, you can give 500 won for transportation, but in the case of Kim Hye-kyung, why 100,000 won is a problem?

[Jungwook Seo]
First of all, they gave nominations in exchange for polls and gave 500 alpha, which makes no sense, even if the polls say that giving nominations is 37,000. There's no basis for 370,000, because I didn't request anything. Even so, the nomination would be more than 370,000, so if you give me a nomination, I should get more money, and I gave you a nomination, so do you add 500 more money? This doesn't add up. This is just how much I say thank you without any conditions. It's not just about the amount. If Kim Hye-kyung bought a meal with her own money, I think this is possible. You bought it with the taxpayers' money. with the Gyeonggi-do corporate card Isn't this the people's blood money? Didn't you make a donation as a campaign? Also, only 100,000 won was indicted on August 1, and the prosecution announced several times that they had already bought meals before and after that, right? The card is about 20 million won. I bought rice several times, and Cho Myung-hyun prosecuted 104,000 won for the date that he paid on behalf of Bae. Therefore, this is not all, and then this money is the people's blood tax, and it's problematic if you embezzle it as the people's blood tax on what Mrs. Kim gave you 500, and as taxes. Isn't it that you gave it to me with your personal money?

[Anchor]
You claim that you can't talk about personal money and using a corporate card together, how did you hear that?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
Under the Public Official Election Act, lawmakers are arrested, right? It's all personal money. You're giving personal money, but are you punished for giving corporate money? I told you that personal money is also a very important part, and I returned all the parts that Mr. Bae used the corporate card. on one's conviction That's what I'm saying. If the first trial ruling against Kim Hye-kyung is guilty, you may think it is good for the power of the people, but think about it like this. Kim Geon-hee is under the Public Official Election Act and does not investigate even if she gives her 500, but what would the people say now if she prosecutes her for eating a meal worth 20,000 won with the wives of lawmakers? And Mrs. Kim Gun-hee said this when President Yoon Suk Yeol was a presidential candidate. They come to my house, eat a lot, cook for me, and receive a lot of political advice. This is the same thing as what I bought you a meal. So, if you say that you are prosecuting for eating with congresswomen in the presidential election, not the election of a district councilor or a city councilor, I think this is becoming a society of serious inequality.

[Anchor]
CEO Lee Jae-myung seems to have posted on social media ahead of the first trial of his wife Kim Hye-kyung today. I think it would be nice if you could show me the screen. Let me introduce the contents briefly.

Representative Lee Jae-myung is sorry ahead of his wife's sentence. I love you. I posted something like this. I posted this on social media. I thought I was on my side of the truth, so I could endure it as much as I wanted, but contrary to my common sense of believing that even local thugs do not touch their families, my wife and children were targeted, I wrote. There was a story that it was difficult for my husband to open his eyes and see the scene where his wife, who lived carefully, was dragged to court in an open summons investigation. I posted a social media post expressing my apologies to my wife.

[Jungwook Seo]
I don't think it's touching. For me, it's not just once or twice that your wife took Bae, the company car in Gyeonggi-do, like she did before. And among the additional charges, there's an official car. The official car was also put in the basement of the apartment building. There is an additional charge of about 50 million won. And then my son saw me last time. I posted a lot on the Internet while gambling. At that time, representative Lee Jae-myung even apologized before the election. My son also apologized as if he were someone else when he grew up. So this is completely retaliation for son punishment. My son kept posting things. Next, Kim Hye-kyung has several charges. It's not just 104,000 won. So, I may feel sorry for myself because there is an additional indictment, but that does not mean that the prosecution is investigating retaliation. I think it's a legitimate investigation.

[Anchor]
Is there a possibility that CEO Lee Jae-myung will be affected by the results of Kim Hye-kyung today?

[Jungwook Seo]
That's right. If you're guilty of 104,000 won today, this is the company card. However, the prosecution is charged with about 20 million won for using only a part of the corporate credit card that has donated to the election law. Therefore, CEO Lee Jae-myung is not even responding to the summons at all. The prosecution indicts them immediately without subpoena. So after this is sentenced, there are representatives Lee Jae-myung and Kim Hye-kyung or Bae. It looks like it will be prosecuted further.

[Lee Seung Hoon]
I don't know when the hell it's been since you said you're going to prosecute. I don't know when I want to do it, but I hope I can do it quickly and finish it within five years of my administration. Don't touch your family. CEO Lee Jae-myung says that, but it must have been very difficult inside. You're being investigated about your son's problem and you're being investigated about your wife's problem. Then you're being investigated like this, but you touched your family first. That's why Kim Gun-hee is having a hard time, too. Me, too. But in the end, it's hard for President Yoon Suk Yeol because President Yoon Suk Yeol is trying to protect First Lady Kim Gun-hee. But what is the country like in the process? It's so hard. The politics are messy. The economy is difficult. In that respect, if you try to solve everything with the prosecution and investigation, an integrated society seems difficult.

[Anchor]
While talking about the alleged intervention in the nomination of Myung Tae-kyun, Kim Hye-kyung came to the fore. Regarding the alleged intervention in the nomination of Myung Tae-kyun, Myung Tae-kyun and former lawmaker Kim Young-sun are at a crossroads today, but there are many tasks left for the prosecution to solve. One of them is Rep. Lee Joon-seok. Lee Joon-seok, a member of the New Reform Party, said this in relation to this issue. Let's listen to it for a moment.

[Lee Jun-seok / New Reform Party member: There were a lot of things going on about the nomination at that time, and I don't think that's the case because President Myung Tae-kyun thought he was receiving the nomination by talking to the president, but if he said that at all, I would have heard from the officialdom committee. Since there is no such trend, the officialdom committee proceeds as a routine procedure. I think he just said that he misunderstood the situation and delivered it to me. (The fact that Myung Tae-kyun said it because he misunderstood it, that the lawmaker was communicating with President Yoon at the time? )
I would have recognized President Yoon Suk Yeol if he had such a smell. Or the officialdom will deliver it to me. It's not because there wasn't such a thing. ]

[Anchor]
To what extent was CEO Lee Joon-seok involved at the time? You are explaining that you just told Myung Tae-kyun the atmosphere of the party, but to what extent do you think you were involved?

[Jungwook Seo]
I think Lee Jun-seok's explanation is quite reliable in this part. Because Lee Joon-seok is President Yoon at 0:20 a.m. on May 9th. President Yoon talked about the election. This kind of Kakao Talk message comes out. After receiving this, Myung Tae-kyun hurriedly checked with President Yoon, and the recording came out the next day. It's the same day as 00:20, of course in the afternoon. Because of this, the atmosphere at that time was probably because President Yoon did not intervene, as representative Lee Joon-seok said, so President Yoon just told him to follow the principle. That's what I said.

[Anchor]
Are you saying that you didn't want me to nominate you?

[Jungwook Seo]
That's right. Myung Tae-kyun believes that President Yoon gives a strategic nomination as a gift to Kim Young-sun, but from the perspective of Chairman Lee Joon-seok, the atmosphere of the party and such are not the atmosphere in which President Yoon intervenes. So, I think Myung Tae-kyun got it wrong, so I said that President Yoon's primary is the principle, but if you text him like this, everything will be reasonably solved. In conclusion, President Yoon is busy at the time, so why would he intervene in the nomination or such? It seems to me that this is just an explanation that Yoon Sang-hyun, chairman of the mission committee, legally nominated it because Lee Joon-seok stamped it according to the usual procedures.

[Anchor]
Rep. Lee Joon-seok is the axis of evil for the lawyer of Myung Tae-kyun and the lawyer of Soyeon Kim. Anyway, Lee Jun-seok is claiming that all the talk about nomination has been made by Lee Jun-seok. Rep. Heo Eun-ah said this today. How did you hear that the power of the people is trying to put it on us?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
Member for Soyeon Kim doesn't seem to know the reality very well. If representative Lee Joon-seok is the axis of evil, the axis of evil becomes the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. I think the evaluation is wrong in that respect. Rep. Lee Joon-seok always explains straightforwardly and easily, but I didn't understand the explanation at first, what do you mean? What is that? I think Myung Tae-kyun is like that because the official commission said that it's not a single candidate for lawmaker Kim Young-sun? And I asked the president of Yoon Suk Yeol right away. And the president of Yoon Suk Yeol solved it with a phone call. In the end, the decision maker was not lawmaker Lee Joon-seok, but the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. So, rather than seeing Lee Joon-seok as the axis of evil, I think it is more appropriate to see Lee Joon-seok as being involved in this wrong nomination.

[Anchor]
Anyway, we need to see how far the prosecution's investigation will expand.

I think the National Assembly will be quite busy this afternoon. Please show us the next topic.

One side will vote for the independent counsel. On the other side, today's special inspection. Discuss the issue of Special Inspector Recommendation. At 2 p.m. today at the plenary session of the National Assembly, the third vote on the Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act will be held. Just before, I heard that it was scheduled for 1:30 today, but the general meeting of the National Power of the People was scheduled for 1:30 p.m. There are many interpretations of what it means to hold it right before the plenary session. How do you see it?

[Jungwook Seo]
Perhaps the special prosecutor will receive it, and unanimously, the special prosecutor. It is unanimously agreed to receive special consideration by receiving. There is a controversy over whether it is linked to the director of the North Korean Human Rights Foundation or whether there is such a party line. So this is something that the President should only recommend. This is what I mean.

[Anchor]
So I don't need much time. I'll agree on it. Is it like this?

[Jungwook Seo]
This is an atmosphere where the consensus is that a special inspector should already be received. Then there's the special prosecutor's vote. It's going to be revealed today. Since it's public, I think they'll leave or go first like last time. Later, when the real game is decided again after requesting a reconsideration on the 28th, it is closed to the public. That's when it's important. I don't know if there will be another lawmaker of the Ahn Cheol Soo today, but wouldn't he leave right away? It is common for the special prosecutor to oppose all of them.

[Anchor]
In any case, there is a lot of talk from within the power of the people regarding the 1:30 general meeting of the lawmakers. Let's listen to it.

[Jung Sung-guk / People's Power] (SBS Kim Tae-hyun's political show): The general meeting of the members is at 1:30, 30 minutes before the plenary session. (Oh really? I think it could take 30 more minutes. ) They said something like that. Why is it so short? He's like this. Isn't it a symbolic demonstration that the atmosphere has changed from the time when there was a debate about the special inspection before the press conference? (It's decided to be a special inspector, right? ) You have to go like that. Because the Democratic Party of Korea doesn't oppose the special inspection right now. We also need a precautionary measure now. During the president's press conference, you expanded your door. ]

[Kang Seung-gyu / Member of the People's Power (YTN 'News Fighting, I'm Bae Seung-hee') : I'm against it, but we'll have to wait and see today. In particular, even if the special inspector confirms it, the question is whether the opposition party will do so now, even if we try to change it in terms of what kind of negotiations between the ruling and opposition parties may be restored. Now, we don't need an airborne office, we don't need a prosecution, let's do an independent investigation rather than a special inspection, we're doing an independent investigation whenever we say it. In the end, the special inspector system will only end up as a subject of attack in such an opposition battle. ]

[Anchor]
Listening to Kang Seung-gyu, I don't think it's unanimous. What do you expect from today's atmosphere?

[Lee Seung Hoon]
It's probably not unanimous, but they'll pass a special inspector. However, I would like to say that it is for the purpose of confirming the misconduct of First Lady Kim Gun-hee through the special inspector, confirming the misconduct of her relatives, and opposing the appointment of a special prosecutor rather than for this purpose. That's why there are many opinions against the Democratic Party of Korea, fearing that it doesn't have to be an independent counsel because the Democratic Party of Korea is a special inspector. I personally think that we need to get a special inspector and an independent counsel.

However, there is no compulsory investigation right for a special inspector. And they don't listen even though they don't have compulsory investigation rights. I don't respond to the investigation. Then, it is to file a complaint with the prosecutor general, but since the prosecution's investigation has already been filed, there is nothing realistically a special inspector can do. Nevertheless, in order to check the presidential office in the future, I need to receive a special inspection and do an independent counsel. That's what I'm saying.

[Anchor]
We talked about the modification regime today, and today the National Assembly is busy, but today is an important day for the test takers to take the CSAT. I'm sure you've seen a lot of cheering messages. The phrase of support for test takers released by lawmaker Jeon Jae-soo drew attention. Test takers, cheer up! I'm good enough for the second try. I think a lot of people saw this phrase and said it was sensible.

[Lee Seung Hoon]
First of all, he's so witty. Representative Jeon Jae-soo seems to have made a lot of names with that one thing. And it's funny like that, but I hope our students do well on the test today and get good results.

[Anchor]
I think it's a banner saying, "Do well on your test and don't try again." Lawyer Seo Jeong-wook, you're from the generation of the academic background test, right?

[Jungwook Seo]
I'm in the generation of the academic background test. Among the names, there are many Heo Sam-su or Sam-su. Retaking the exam was a must in the past, and taking the exam is a choice, but you can't do that anymore. I think lawmaker Jeon Jae-soo would have scored quite a lot with that in his constituency.

[Anchor] Attorney
I think he studied so well that he didn't try again

[Seo Jungwook]
I went to another university for a year.

[Anchor]
Did you try again?

[Jungwook Seo]
In reality, it's a second try. Because I was in another university.

[Anchor]
Lastly, please give a heartwarming message to the test takers.

[Jungwook Seo]
If we did it before the broadcast, we would have prepared it, but I can't remember.

[Anchor]
You can't do the ad-lib. Lawyer Lee Seung-hoon, please do it for me.

[Lee Seung Hoon]
Good luck on your test. Studying is not a shortcut to success. I hope you do your best to take the test and pioneer another better future regardless of the results.

[Anchor]
Test takers, I hope you get good results today.

This has been lawyer Seo Jeong-wook and lawyer Lee Seung-hoon. Thank you.