Jang Dong-hyuk said, "Hong Joon Pyo's 'Yong-byeong' remark is very inappropriate."Do you check presidential candidate Han Dong-hoon?"

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: November 13, 2024 (Wednesday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Talk: Jang Dong-hyuk, Supreme Council Member for People's Power (appearing)

* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.

- In terms of the judgment of the first trial, it is natural to limit the right to run for election in terms of sentencing criteria
- Lee Jae-myung's petition 1 million, the judges do not keep in mind
- The Democratic Party of Korea's outdoor assembly, Lee Jae-myung's judicial risk. Recognize that it is to prevent Hong Joon Pyo's remarks, which are extremely inappropriate.The story of separating the party and the presidential office
- Kim Dong-yeon's press conference, which can be interpreted in various ways, is seen as a presidential move
- Sci-gye, Li will move more actively after the first trial.The possibility of internal disturbance within the Democratic Party is also
- Han Dong-hoon has no authority on bulletin boards.Accusation or legal action will be taken in response
- Pro-Yoon-gye feels sorry for raising the issue of causing conflict within the party amid changes and reform directions
- Lawmakers sympathizing with Han Dong-hoon's move
- More than official or external number {尹}- No revolving door personnel..We need to take a step further than the public think.
- Special Inspector, recommendation without any internal disagreement to prevent the opposition's offensive and win public sentiment.
- Considering the seriousness of the crime and concerns over the destruction of evidence, it is common to be arrested.
◆ Shin Yul: Shin Yul's news head-to-head match begins part 4. The person we will meet in the front interview of the fourth part today is Jang Dong-hyuk, the supreme council member of the People's Power. You're in the studio right now. Please come in.

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: Yes, hello. I'm Jang Dong-hyuk.

◆ Shin Yul: I think it's better to ask this question because our supreme council member Chang was also a judge. Since it's the day after tomorrow, it's the first trial. But if Chang is a judge, how long would you like to serve the sentence?

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: Based on the legal principles and existing sentencing standards, I think it is natural to be convicted of the Public Official Election Act, and sentencing is limited to more than 2 million won in terms of the existing sentencing or legal principles.

◆ Shin Yul: Rep. Yoon Sang-hyun must have said 800,000 won.

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: I don't know where that sentence came from.

◆ Shin Yul: Anyway, the Democratic Party is very eager to plead not guilty and has more than 1 million pleas for not guilty. It's coming out like that from the Minjoo Innovation Conference or the Innovation Conference, so how do the judges put pressure on you? What if there's a movement like that?

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: In general cases, people around you make really desperate petitions, or if so, they sometimes have an impact. However, it is very common to petition in these politicians' cases, and I don't think judges have much in mind about a petition that has a cover in front of them and just lives on by name, rather than writing it by hand.

◆ Sin Yul: I see. But actually, even though the petition does not have much impact, I feel that they are actually working very hard on this public opinion battle. I went outside, but there weren't as many people at the outdoor rally as I thought. How do you see it?

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: The Democratic Party of Korea has been out of the office for two consecutive weeks, but I think we've reduced the number of people this time compared to last time. I don't think public sentiment is catching up except for the number of people mobilized by the Democratic Party. Regardless of the approval rating for the ruling party or the president, I know that this purpose eventually came out as an obstacle to prevent judicial risks for the opposition leader, but I don't think there is any people to support this.

◆ Sin-ryul: Anyway, we have to look at how the results come out, so let me ask you about the party. First, the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo said this. I think he said it to the effect that President Yoon Suk Yeol should not be a vegetative government like this now, but what did he say? Wouldn't it be right to negotiate with the Democratic Party? If our party doesn't cooperate, wouldn't it be right to negotiate with the Democratic Party?

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: I don't know what purpose you were talking about, but in the end, you shouldn't cause a conflict within the party. You said why you're pointing that gun inward, but I think this can be a word that separates the party and the presidential office.

◆ Sin-ryul: Divide the presidential office. But what does it mean to negotiate with the Democratic Party of Korea? I don't know if this is a national cabinet or what this is.

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: I don't know what that means either. In the end, the conflict between the party and the president, especially now Chairman Han Dong-hoon, has been brewing, so I think he said it with those in mind. Rather, it seems to mean that we need to find a turning point even if we turn our partner in state administration from here to here, but I don't know if that's appropriate.

◆ Shin Yul: But I also said this again. The mayor of Hong Joon Pyo used this mercenary word, so President Yoon Suk Yeol is a mercenary and CEO Han Dong-hoon is a mercenary, but President Yoon came in as a mercenary and changed the government, so we should be grateful. However, the rest only causes a disturbance in the sugar. Mercenaries are coming in and continuing to ruin the party. What do you think?

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: I think it's very inappropriate, but it's not that mercenaries can come and do anything about it, but whether they're mercenaries or people who've been political in our party, the color he has and his political orientation were in line with the spirit of the time, so he could go all the way to the president. Han Dong-hoon, the current leader of the party, won 63 percent of approval ratings from party members and the people, and became the party leader because the politics that Han is pursuing, the direction that Han is trying to go, and the direction that Han is trying to lead the people's power touches the public sentiment of the current party members and the people, and it is in line with that, so I don't think it's right to divide it into "mercenary" and denigrate it.

◆ Sin-ryul: You described it as denigrating, but of course, I told President Yoon Suk Yeol that we should be grateful because mercenaries came in and changed the government. How would you feel to hear the mercenaries from President Yoon's point of view?

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: Now that you express it that way, President Yoon Suk Yeol should be grateful for the change of government, but in the end, he tried to make an angle here and make a gap here to form a hand-in-hand with President ∀, but when you think about it, when President Yoon Suk Yeol first came into our party and became president, he continued to blame President Yoon Suk Yeol with similar criticisms and made similar criticisms.

◆ Shin Yul: You mean during the presidential election?

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: Yes. The same person who criticized the same thing is now that the president has changed the government, but it is not appropriate for Han Dong-hoon to express that "mercenaries come and ruin the party," and he has always changed his expression like this depending on the situation and changed his arrow, so I have turned the arrow around by saying this and that. I don't think it's very appropriate right now if you think that the obstacle to bringing our party together is who is playing such an obstacle right now.

◆ Shin Yul: But Mayor Hong says a lot of various things these days. What do you think is the reason? In other words, compared to the heads of other local governments,

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: The final political destination that Mayor Hong is aiming for is not the end of the Daegu mayor, and he still has a dream of running for president anyway. Since Han Dong-hoon, the leader of the conservative party, is overwhelmingly ahead of the presidential candidate of the People's Power and the media, there is a wide gap there, so I think he said this and that out of a lot of urgency, and then turned the arrow back and forth.

◆ Shin Yul: But speaking of the head of the local government, Gyeonggi Province Governor Kim Dong-yeon also held this press conference yesterday. Kim Gun-hee has made her position clear on the Special Prosecutor Act, and opposition politicians can do that. You don't usually hold press conferences that often, but now you're suddenly talking about this. How do you actually see it these days? That

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: I agree with that part. Whether it's Seoul Mayor Oh Se-hoon, Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo, or the head of the opposition party and local governments, since the presidential election is approaching, each of them is taking various steps to warm up and go to the presidential election. I believe that after being a little away from the center of the media, they are saying things and taking various steps to move to the presidential election under the spotlight.

◆ Shin-yul: But in the case of opposition politician Kim Dong-yeon, there are reports that he met with former Governor Kim Kyung-soo in Germany, but I think there are various misunderstandings in the situation that is going on like this, but I think there can be various interpretations.

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: There can be various interpretations, but the interpretation is usually concentrated in one place, and in the end, there are various interpretations such as the timing, but in the end, each seems to be a presidential move.

◆ [Voiceover] Just in case. If Representative Lee Jae-myung assumes that the deprivation of the right to vote will slow down, as Supreme Council member Jang said earlier, will these people's movements become more active, or will there be no such thing because they are so close to the Democratic Party?

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: I think the movement will be active. However, I think there is one purpose to give a signature on when there will be a stir within the Democratic Party of Korea or to go out of the court to further strengthen the solidarity of Lee Jae-myung's supporters. Until the first trial, the party was completely controlled by Lee Jae-myung's relatives, so I don't know if it will be less shaken, but if the appeals court gets the same result, the Democratic Party of Korea, Chairman Lee Jae-myung and other supporters of the Democratic Party will be in trouble. If the results of the appeals court eventually go to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court election comes out immediately before the presidential election or after the candidate is decided, the Democratic Party may have no choice but to hold the presidential election without finding any presidential candidate, assuming that it has no choice but to move with such a worst-case scenario in mind. Then, no matter how much Lee Jae-myung took control of the party under his own name, supporters of the Democratic Party will have no choice but to make strategic choices if the sentence of deprivation or restriction is maintained until the appeal trial. From then on, I think the worries and children's songs will begin to be visible.

◆ Shin Yul: Many people think that this should be such a hot issue these days, but I expressed that the so-called CEO Han Dong-hoon and his family's posts on the People's Power Party bulletin board in the name of his family are controversial. It hasn't been revealed yet, so how do you see it? This is

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: The party is reviewing the operation of the party bulletin board and this part, and it seems that it is now reviewing whether all the party members' real names can be confirmed and how far they can be disclosed under the party law. First of all, even if we fight with the Democratic Party now, and even if we follow the public sentiment and make changes and innovations now, we feel very sorry for wasting energy on these things among ourselves. However, as far as I know, civic groups have probably accused Han Dong-hoon or his family members, it seems that the truth will be revealed by a stronger investigation than the party's audit. However, Han Dong-hoon clearly said that he did not have the authority to post the article now and did not post it, and in fact, the articles in question are

◆ Shin Yul: Why are you not authorized? You're the leader of the party.

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: As far as I know, exactly right now, I didn't write it anyway, but the

◆ Shin Yul: But the Supreme Council member Kim Jae-won also has no authority. CEO Han Dong-hoon has no authority to write.

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: So I don't know about that system, but from what I heard, I said clearly that I didn't because I didn't have the authority, and in fact, the articles in the family's name are linked to editorials or things like that, so it's actually not something to be criticized or problematic in terms of content, but things in the name of CEO Han Dong-hoon, and it's not exactly written by CEO Han Dong-hoon, but I understand that YouTubers and others are probably considering legal action for saying things that are too different from the truth. So this side also filed a complaint, and this side will respond to it and file a complaint or take legal action, so it seems that it will be revealed through the investigation.

◆ While listening to YTN radio at school, I watched YTN TV's underwater meter at lunch today. So, what did Shin Ji-ho, the head of the Strategic Planning Department, say on the news hosted by anchor Kim Sun-young on YTN TV? As far as I remember, CEO Han Dong-hoon clearly said the content of this issue during the Supreme Council meeting in the morning, but I think he said it was necessary to pay attention to why it was raised at this time. What do you think?

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: As I said earlier, I feel sorry that this issue continues to waste energy in our party and create conflict within the party at a time when it is difficult for us to join forces now. I don't know why I'm at this point in time

◆ Shin Yul: Wasn't it a situation where your close friends were getting sutured?

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: I have asked the President for the reform of various reform changes and the position of the current representative Han Dong-hoon is unfortunate in the statement, but I have a certain position on it, so I asked him to produce the results quickly and quickly. I understand that the president is now focusing his efforts on the opposition offensive in order to gather the power that has been scattered and fight with the opposition until a certain outcome is achieved with such speed. As representative Han Dong-hoon communicates the voice of the people, not intentionally setting the angle or causing conflict, there are times when it seems to be a conflict situation and sometimes it seems to be setting the angle, but I don't mean that Han Dong-hoon is the voice of the party as the representative. I think it's a process of communicating the people's voice and now that the president has responded to it in his own way, I will give him time to carry out the promise, and Chairman Han Dong-hoon says he will focus on the opposition during that time, but I feel sorry for continuing to raise issues with this issue, which could hamper Chairman Han Dong-hoon and cause conflict within the party at a time when he is about to take a new turn and move toward a change in justice and reform.

◆ Shin-yul: I saw in some media that these days, there are more and more lawmakers who are close to each other during the daytime and during the night. Do you agree?

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: I don't think I can say this or that in detail. First of all, I can't say anything specific or express it officially or externally, but I think there are far more lawmakers who sympathize with the various voices that representative Han Dong-hoon is making and trying to react sensitively to the voices of the people.

◆ Sin Yul: And you need to wait for the demands to be made with speed. It is necessary to see if the demands are met. I think the size of the greeting should be.

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: I think that personnel management is an opportunity to reach the people and bring the public's distant public sentiment to us when it goes beyond what the people expect. If the width is less than what the people expect, I can't impress the people, and I don't think the personnel who are trying to make changes and renovations will be very effective.

◆ Shin Yul: We shouldn't do revolving door greetings like this

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: I've appointed someone who is going to use the mob, and I think the public needs to take one step or at least half a step further than they think to reach the public.

◆ Shin Yul: Okay. And shouldn't the special inspector issue be held at the general meeting? Don't you think that's not a big problem?

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: I can't predict everything, but I think we can prevent various opposition attacks and win public sentiment after this. If we want to continue to block the opposition's offensive in the future, the only way we can block the public sentiment with 108 seats is to carry the public sentiment on our back, and 108 seats can be blocked only when we carry the public sentiment together. Considering the current public sentiment, I think this is the minimum requirement for now, starting with an apology to the special inspector, followed by personnel reshuffling, refraining from or suspending activities, and special inspector.

◆ Shin Yul: But the special counsel is... When it comes to the special prosecution issue, representative Han Dong-hoon also said, "Let's do this because we are united and united." In the case of Representative Ahn Cheol Soo and former Representative Yoo Seung Min, they seemed to talk about the special prosecution issue a little differently. How do you see it?

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: I think we may have different ideas about the special prosecutor. However, in the end, Rep. Park Eun-jung of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party said this during an interview, and if the special prosecution passes, President Yoon Suk Yeol will eventually become a plant president that day, whether he is in his seat or down. In the end, what the opposition wants is not to pass the special prosecution to find some truth, but to eventually reduce the president's power of state affairs and prevent him from doing anything, and eventually to save Lee Jae-myung or his country, who are facing judicial risks. So, of course, let's do a special prosecution now. Even if more people want to do a special prosecution by moving on to an emotional issue, not a legal issue, then if the opposition party continues to conduct such political offensive, search, and briefings, then will the president's state power be higher and the party's approval rating be higher, and then how we can defend the opposition's offensive sequentially, this is not just a matter of do-it-all, but a very important decision and an important time to determine the fate of our party and the Yoon Suk Yeol government now. Therefore, I think the party should go in one direction with a single voice through sufficient discussion, regardless of the direction, whether it is a special prosecutor or a third-party special prosecutor or opposition to the special prosecutor. Since we only have 108 seats now, the only thing that can determine the fate of the party is that if we don't go as one, eight lawmakers, less than 10% of the 108 members, can decide the fate of the party. I think we should go as one of the parties on these issues through sufficient discussion. Whatever the conclusion is

◆ Shin Yul: And since Supreme Council member Jang was a judge, how do you think he'll be arrested? What do you think will happen?

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: If you look at the seriousness of the crime so far and various concerns about the destruction of evidence, it seems that it is common to be arrested.

◆ Shin Yul: Then do you think there will be a situation where people will pay attention to your mouth again?

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: When he was arrested, Myung Tae-kyun said a lot of things, and what would he reveal? I don't know what's coming out because I've done this.In fact, the problem of Myung Tae-kyun is not over just because of Myung Tae-kyun, but now others other than Myung Tae-kyun have begun to talk about something, and even transcripts that even Myung Tae-kyun can't know are continuing to be released. The opposition party says it has secured such transcripts and that the amount is enormous. Chairman Lee Jae-myung's second trial is about to be held, but the number of people who gather outside the office continues to decrease and they are managing their facial expressions, but they must be in a hurry. But if the transcript is this much, I don't know if there's anything politically or morally criticized, but I don't know if there's anything special about whether there's a smoking gun coming out legally or something new.

◆ Shin Yul: Anyway, the day after tomorrow. Tomorrow is the College Scholastic Ability Test, and the day after tomorrow, the first trial ruling against representative Lee Jae-myung comes out, and 10 days later, the perjury teacher comes out again, and political big events continue. Please help me more often from now on.

◇ Jang Dong-hyuk: I'll do my best. Thank you.

◆ Shin Yul: Thank you. Let's stop here today. Thank you. He was a member of the Supreme Council, Jang Dong-hyuk, the power of the people.