Cho Kyung-tae "Controversy over the bulletin board of a party member? Jang Ye-chan, who defected from the party, is sending excessive love to other people's party."

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: November 19, 2024 (Tuesday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Talk: Cho Kyung-tae, member of the People's Power,

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- Democratic Party of Korea's 'perception change' is expected to inevitably occur
- Expressions of the pro-life community, showing the bare face of the Democratic Party...It's not appropriate
- Sci-Mye will shake the first pole system with cautious movements underwater
- 與, opposition parties need to establish a plan strategy..You can't slow down the change.
- Pollack, you can't say it's very powerful.Policy performance is more important
- The 與 Gap Resolution Committee is scheduled to propose a bill on extending the retirement age for middle-aged people
- 檢, Lee Jae-myung prosecuted? I'm sorry about the misappropriation of corporate cars.
- Controversy over golf in 尹, interpreting the part where he exercised over the weekend
- Cho Kuk Innovation Party unveils the impeachment bill? Don't call for impeachment, but call for people's livelihoods
- It doesn't help the party to make a fuss about the bulletin board issue within the party
- The Democratic Party of Korea, a party with a tradition..It will not go away under the burden of 43 billion won
- 尹, fulfill the promises announced in the public statement including personnel reform upon entering the country
- Han Dong-hoon, giving enough time to the government..Watch the reform
- Kim Gun-hee's departure from the independent counsel law? I don't expect it to come out more than last time.
◆ Shin Yul: Shin Yul's news head-to-head competition part 2 begins. I'm Cho Kyung-tae, a member of the People's Power, who will meet in the front interview of the second part today. I'm on the phone right now. How are you, Senator?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Hello, I'm Cho Kyung-tae.

◆ Shin Yul: Hasn't CEO Lee Jae-myung been sentenced to prison in the first trial? But of course, we have to go to the final trial, but people like Representative Jang Dong-hyuk are very negative, so I think they evaluate Lee Jae-myung's presidential bid very negatively, what about you, Representative?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: The sentence of the first trial is now a prison sentence.I think it's very important when the second trial ends. Of course, we'll look at the final trial since it's a three-trial system.Ma is usually described as a psychological cordon, and if we talk about a psychological line, I think it will be the time when the results of the second trial come out. If that happens, I think that changes in perception in the political world, especially in the opposition party, will inevitably occur.

◆ Shin Yul: I don't know if there are a lot of screams actually moving within the Democratic Party, but Choi Min-hee apologized. Of course, I acknowledged it. I live very high, but I'll kill you if the screams move with the party members. Didn't you say this? Right. Then how do you watch this? Of course, you've apologized, but what do you think?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I think it's probably showing the bare face of people in the Democratic Party right now. Didn't the Democratic Party of Korea make a lot of comments that caused quite a bit of nonsense and social controversy until recently? Some lawmakers used the expression that Korean traditional musicians Pansori are gisaengs, and of course, they apologized, but they gave a lot of controversial words anyway. I see it as a very damaging act to my dignity as a member of the National Assembly and it is a very inappropriate statement.

◆ Sin Yul: But I don't know if the screams actually move that much. How are you judging?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I think there's probably that kind of careful movement under the water. I think it's an expression that reveals a little nervousness in the real world. However, I believe that the current one-pole system of Democratic Party Chairman Lee Jae-myung will continue for the time being. However, I carefully predict that the one-pole system will be shaken from the point when the second trial is outlined to some extent.

◆ Sin Yul: I see. Monday, the 25th, is left for perjury. There's another one. How do you watch the first trial?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: It's no exaggeration to say that the case of Daejang-dong has not even started yet, so I think the opposition party will be quite hurt by the leadership of the leader in that regard.

◆ Shin Yul: You will be hurt by your leadership as the party leader, right. But actually, I hear a lot of cases like this. In fact, looking at the last U.S. presidential election, wasn't it President Biden who targeted and strategized for candidate Trump? But suddenly, this changed to Harris, so Trump must have been very embarrassed. You must have been embarrassed by things like changing your strategy, but the reason I'm saying this is that if the other party's power landscape changes, shouldn't we prepare for a scenario that predicts the power of the people? What do you think?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yes, that's a very good word. From the perspective of the people's power and the ruling party's point of view, it is necessary to plan well for various variables of the opposition party, including Plan B and Plan C. The problem is, I think it's the economy. The people are all seeing how responsible the ruling party is to solve the domestic economy. I don't think our ruling party can just be happy about the crisis situation of the opposition party leader. With a heavier sense of responsibility, I see various reforms within the ruling party, and I see the change as not to slow down the reins. In practice, I should make efforts to show the people such faith as a ruling party. That's how I look at it.

◆ Shin-ryul: The reins of reform and change are very important, but it is important for the general public to present a policy and find stability, but isn't the risk surrounding the passport a risk of Myung Tae-kyun? We don't know what he's going to say. We don't know if he's going to talk about it or not, but isn't it an environment where people say that the party needs to secure some crisis management skills? What do you think?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: In general, I don't think it's as powerful as I thought about the various situations of Myung Tae-kyun that have emerged so far. However, since the investigation is underway with Myung Tae-kyun under arrest, I don't know what other variables will work depending on the progress of the investigation.Ma is unlikely to make significant changes to the current representative system of Han Dong-hoon. However, isn't there any politician in the capital city who is now involved in it? There may be some variables in that area, but it's not going to be a big variable in the overall change of the party. However, I believe that in order for our party to gain wider support from the people, producing clear policy outcomes such as the abolition of the gold tax such as the gold tax last time, which can be seen, can take up much more weight than the suspicion of pollack.

◆ Shin Yul: Senator Cho, if we talk like that, there's something more important now. The 65-year-old retirement age extension.

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yes, yes.

◆ Shin Yul: The gold investment tax involves people who are in stocks, but isn't 65 related to the whole nation?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: That's right. Yes, so our party's gap closing committee continues to discuss the extension of the retirement age to close the income gap and improve the quality of life to bridge the gap for the elderly and middle-aged. We're going to have the first policy discussion next week. Through the second and third expert policy meetings, we plan to propose a bill related to the extension of the retirement age around the beginning of next year through a policy discussion later.

◆ Sin-ryul: When can you start working until you're 65 when you propose a bill? This is a very important issue for older people.
◇ Cho Kyung-tae: That's right. I don't think we should stop at proposing a bill. If this bill is proposed by the ruling party, there will be several bills related to the extension of the retirement age, not only the ruling and opposition parties but also the legislation that has already been proposed. I think it's the people's livelihood in a real sense that probably relieves public anxiety by going through the merger screening a little faster.

◆ Shin-yul: Anyway, on one side, we do that policy, but on the other side, I think there could be some talk about hitting representative Lee Jae-myung. The prosecution indicted Lee Jae-myung over the private use of the Gyeonggi-do corporate card today, and this will be the fifth or sixth indictment.

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yes, I think it's the sixth indictment. There are people who are prosecuted more than five times. Six times, we've been prosecuted a lot, so we've been prosecuted for about five times,

◆ Sin Yul: I'm not exactly sure, but how do you see this?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I think the prosecution has probably prosecuted the problematic part anyway. Anyway, we think that the judiciary will judge it through legal interpretation. In any case, it is also very regrettable that certain contents related to private misappropriation related to this corporate card have been prosecuted. I'd like to say that.

◆ Sin-ryul: This is a completely different story, but the president keeps talking about golf. How do you watch this?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Actually, that's actually Saturday. Isn't Saturday usually the weekend? Some media expand and interpret the part where you worked out on the weekend, but it would be a big problem if you played golf on weekdays, but the doctor also looked at the date and said,

◆ Shin Yul: I actually didn't watch it exactly.

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yes, if you look at the date and look at it, I remember it as Saturday in general. If I worked out on the weekend on Saturday, I don't know about that unless it's a weekday.Ma thinks that there may be a part where the people will judge this part like that.

◆ Shin Yul: But actually, there are a lot of elements that the opposition party is attacking the president. Mrs. Kim Gun-hee's involvement in Deutsche Motors' stock price manipulation, controversy over receiving luxury bags, Myung Tae-kyun's problem, is this the Cho Kuk Innovation Party? Is it tomorrow? Tomorrow, the draft of the impeachment motion of President Yoon will be unveiled. What do you think?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Aren't opposition parties always impeaching and impeaching the president they picked? Of course, I feel a lot of responsibility for the president's failure to win broad public support, but I hope the opposition parties will not impeach him, but keep talking about the elected president. If the Cho Kuk Innovation Party had won precious public support and was entrusted with various powers it gave to the National Assembly, it would be much better to see it as an opposition party if it were a party that creates many laws related to people's livelihoods and discusses various pending issues related to people's livelihoods. So, I hope to stop impeaching the North and hit the North for people's livelihoods. I'd like to say this.

◆ Shin Yul: And in the power of the people these days, the issue of party bulletin boards has been a bit noisy. By the way, how are you looking at it? As the most-elected lawmaker, our lawmaker Cho Kyung-tae?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I'm asking if it's really going to help our party to talk about the issue of the bulletin board within the party. I would like to ask again who will be of help if we fight fiercely within our party with the bulletin board within the party. I hope we can stop making comments on the bulletin board, which is strictly anonymous. When we go to Naver, a representative portal site, don't we write a lot of things like this? Perhaps the listeners who are interested in politics can write and curse in comments if there are bad things about me at this moment. That's probably right. So, of course, in the areas where anonymity is guaranteed to politicians, and managers also manage this well so that in the future, excessive profanity and swear words can also be covered, and in various operations, they can do this effectively. I hope our party will make a voice that will help the party in the future. That's what I want to say.

◆ Shin Yul: But now I think former Supreme Council member Jang Ye-chan has continued to attack representative Han Dong-hoon. It seems that he talked to CEO Han Dong-hoon about how he is different from former Governor Kim Kyung-soo, but I think there will be no choice but to say that the conflict between Chin-yoon and Chin-han will be reenacted.

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: What would be beneficial to our party and what kind of people can we talk about our vision to if it continues to be such a conflict between pro-yoon and pro-friendly? And when close Chin-yoon says the conflict continues, who laughs behind her and who helps which party? And Jang Yechan, former member of the Supreme Council.Isn't this the one who left our party right now? Strictly speaking, I want us to show ourselves that our party can innovate, change and reform internally without giving too much affection and love to others' party.

◆ Shin Yul: Representative Han Dong-hoon and the People's Power leadership are also launching a monitoring TF to prevent delays in Lee Jae-myung's trial, how do you rate this?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yes, right now, there are many cases where trials against politicians are always delayed a lot, aren't there? In the case of Yoon Mi-hyang, she is a former member of the National Assembly. Didn't this person get a ruling in four years and two months? In this regard, I believe that this should be resolved for certain divisions and social costs in certain political circles due to the delay in the trial. I believe that certain judgments against politicians should be carried out more quickly and speedily. As our listeners and the people know, even if a lawmaker is prosecuted, wouldn't ordinary public officials be suspended from their duties? But isn't it our people's tax that politicians receive all of their taxes for four years? So it's supposed to be done quickly, especially in the case of election laws, within a year. 6-3-3 is 6 months, 1 trial, then 3 months, 2 trials, and 3 months, 3 trials. So I hope that within a year, these things will not be delayed quickly, and that the trial will be adjudicated quickly. If there is a shortage of judicial personnel, if there is a shortage of judges, it is better to fill this part of the workforce quickly so that such delays do not occur. I think so.

◆ Shin Yul: And. Another thing is that now that Representative Lee Jae-myung's trial has been mentioned, the first trial is not the final, but if the first trial continues to violate the Public Official Election Act to the end, the Democratic Party will have to throw up more than 43 billion won. Right? What if the Democratic Party disappears? How do you see it?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: The Democratic Party is a traditional party, so I don't think it's going to disappear. However, I think it will take a considerable amount of time for the Democratic Party to overcome this crisis.

◆ Sin-ryul: Money, so it's not going to be easy to raise this money. That's what you're talking about.

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I think it will definitely be hit by various financial difficulties. I also think that the Democratic Party of Korea will probably come up with such countermeasures.

◆ Sin Yul: I see. And CEO Han Dong-hoon was supposed to meet with CEO Lee Jae-myung last time, but I don't know if he hasn't met or not, but this is getting a little stretched. Do you think we'll have a party leadership meeting? With the first trial now in jail for violating election laws, how do you see it?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: I think we do all the negotiations behind the scenes even during the war. Likewise, even if the ruling and opposition parties are dealing with it and the opposition leader is at judicial risk, I think it is right to hold a second round of talks within this year at the latest after the 25th. The reason is because. This is not a personal part of each representative, but our ruling and opposition parties are each one of the pillars of state administration anyway, right? So, I always meet constantly on bills, budgets, and policies related to people's livelihoods, and I deal with those areas with common denominators, so even if we fight anyway, the leaders of the ruling and opposition parties put their heads together when it comes to people's livelihoods.

◆ Shin Yul: And in fact, after President Yoon Suk Yeol's public statement and press conference, Han Dong-hoon said, "After President Yoon Suk Yeol's public statement and press conference, I'll wait and see if his demands are incorporated into such a statement or press conference." How do you think about it? There are some people saying that the voice of the demand for reform of the state administration has decreased. How long do we have to wait?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Isn't the president going abroad right now through summit meetings? I believe that if you come to Korea, I will fulfill the promises I made in the public statement, including the personnel reform that I promised. So I think it's probably CEO Han Dong-hoon's idea to watch that time. And didn't our party hold a meeting a few days ago and let us pass the special inspector system? So, I'm hoping to keep the promise to the people one by one. I think CEO Han Dong-hoon is giving such time to the government right now. That's how I see it.

◆ Shin-ryul: If the Democratic Party of Korea has a special inspection, shouldn't this be my light?

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: That's right. Didn't the ruling and opposition parties already agree on the special inspector system and passed the bill in 2014? As far as I know, both parties did it in 2013 and promulgated it on March 18, 2014. Then, in fact, the Park Geun Hye government is the only government that has kept the system set by law by the National Assembly. In fact, the Moon Jae In government did not implement this law. In fact, even after entering this government, it has not been implemented, but the problem is that the National Assembly should pass it, not blame the government. If the National Assembly makes a recommendation, the president is supposed to appoint it, so it is important for the ruling and opposition parties to reach an agreement and quickly appoint a special inspector.

◆ Shin Yul: Okay. Simply put, how many votes do you expect to be cast for the independent counsel, Kim Gun-hee, if it is re-voted? Simply

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: The special prosecution system proposed by the Democratic Party of Korea is very difficult to accept because four people are recommended by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and two people are given the right to vote if they don't like it. I'm looking at it like that. I'm expecting that few departure tickets will come out compared to last time.

◆ Shin Yul: Okay. Thank you for your words today. Thank you.

◇ Cho Kyung-tae: Yes, thank you.

◆ Shin Yul: I was Cho Kyung-tae, a member of the People's Power.