Seo Young-kyo "Lee Jae-myung is indicted for misappropriation of corporate cards? 尹 is also subject to prosecution."

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: November 22, 2024 (Friday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Talk: Seo Young-kyo, a member of the Democratic Party of Korea,

* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.

- The Democratic Party of Korea released five recordings of Myeong Tae-kyun.Whether it is true or not, shocking
- Evidence is being collected within the Democratic Party of Korea regarding Myung Tae-kyun's remarks
- Lee Jae-myung, prosecuted for misappropriation of corporate cards? The President is also subject to prosecution
- Corporate Card, Business-related expenses can be used
- Corporate Card Tribunal is involved in other cases... Self-avoidance
- Seol Hoon's claim of "Lee Jae-myung's resignation"? Ever since you were in the party
- 尹, do you need time for human renewal? indecision...I should think of myself as a ∀.
◆ Shin Yul: Shin Yul's news head-to-head match begins part 4. In today's face-to-face interview for the fourth part, Rep. Seo Young-kyo of the Democratic Party of Korea is meeting. I'm on the phone right now. Hello, Senator.

◇ Seo Young-kyo: Yes, hello, I'm Seo Young-kyo.

◆ Shin Yul: Oh, you're the head of the fact-finding team at the Myeong Tae-gyun gate, right? Right?

◇ Seo Young-kyo: Yes, that's right.

◆ Shin Yul: Yes, but the Democratic Party kept releasing this recording. I think it's one day every day.

◇ Seo Young-kyo : Today is about five

◆ Shin Yul: Oh, I'm sorry for today's 5.

◇ Seo Young-kyo: It was a very absurd transcript today. You didn't hear today's song, right?

◆ I didn't hear it.

◇ Seo Young-kyo: I'm busy following you. It's busy to follow and there are transcripts we release, but there are many other evidence and circumstances from other media companies. The people are saying, "What is this? It's exploding every day." The transcript we released today is about how Myung Tae-kyun is bonded with the judges along with Representative Kim Young-sun. And Myeong Tae Gyun was sworn in by a former chief of the Changwon District Prosecutors' Office. A recording of this was released today. Kang Hye-kyung was investigated by the NEC, and shouldn't she go to the police and prosecution for future investigations? If that happens, the chief of the Changwon District Prosecutors' Office has already written all his hands and sworn loyalty, and the police are the same, so there won't be a problem. This is what Myung Taekyun said today. I don't know how far it's true, but it's shocking.

◆ Shin Yul: But lawmaker Seo Young-kyo also said that, and I think the authenticity of Lee Myung-tae-kyun's argument will be important here.

◇ Seo Young-kyo: That's right.

◆ Shin Yul: Then, since you're the head of the fact-finding team at the gate, are you collecting evidence to support the mention of the person named Myung Taekyun?

◇ Seo Young-kyo: Of course we're collecting those pieces of evidence. So, for example, isn't Myung Tae-kyun talking about the president's intervention in the nomination from the beginning? Myung Tae-kyun is accused by the NEC of political funds. It's not Myung Tae-kyun, but Rep. Kim Young-sun and Kang Hye-kyung, who was in charge of accounting, and Myung Tae-kyun is involved in it. In this process, please don't let the prosecution call us. He keeps sending signals to Yongsan, saying, "Please don't let the prosecution arrest us." So when I said, "I have a personal conversation with Mrs. Kim Gun-hee," didn't Yongsan and Kim Jae-won, the supreme council member of the People's Power, talk about all kinds of scammers? So, it was revealed that Myung Tae-kyun recorded his voice or released the contents of Kakao Talk and exchanged Kakao Talk with First Lady Kim Gun-hee. But the fact that the president intervened in the nomination is the data we had. We don't always have it. In this regard, an informant said, "Myeong Tae-kyun, the president, and the president's wife should not be involved, and we should let the people know about this." It was given to us, and that was the president's development. The president talked about fostering nomination intervention in his own voice. This is the evidence support. We're continuing to support it with the data and contents, and we're collecting them.

◆ Shin Yul: But in the case of Governor Kim Jin-tae, he had influence on the nomination of the governor of Gangwon-do. Isn't the recording released by the Democratic Party now showing that Myung Tae-kyun said that? But that's right. Governor Kim Jin-tae did not help anything at the time, but immediately expressed his rebuttal, saying, "Is it a controversy now?" What do you think? This is

◇ Seo Young-kyo: It's an expression that the person can help at that time. I'm not saying that Governor Kim Jin-tae didn't help me then, but why are you making a fuss now? Then we don't know a person named Myung Tae-kyun, and that expression was that Myung Tae-kyun was the person who could help, so why didn't he help me? I think this is Governor Kim Jin-tae's excuse. But we talk about it in detail. Governor Kim Jin-tae was cut off. It was cut off, and with Governor Kim Jin-tae, they went to the gym where First Lady Kim Gun-hee was or the golf practice range, and they swore allegiance there, and then they said that the nomination changed. They say that the person who was cut off is going to run in the election. Even when we looked at that time, Governor Kim Jin-tae made some very senseless remarks about Gwangju when he was a candidate at the time, so he was cut off because there were a few things. How is the cutoff going to come back to life quickly? Then there should be an explanation of how he survived the cutoff. I need to give evidence that I didn't go to see the lady and stuff like this.

◆ Shin Yul: The exact word that Governor Kim Jin-tae said is that no one helped me when I was fasting, but now I don't know why there are so many people who did it. He refuted that he didn't just receive the nomination. I mean, no one helped me when I was young. That's what I'm talking about. But he came and said, "Are you the person who did this for you?" Isn't it this? In the end,

◇ Seo Young-kyo: What are many people who said they helped you?

◆ Shin Yul: No one helps you when you fast that you did it

◇ Seo Young-kyo: No, so I helped the people on duty. There's no one like this. I helped Kim Jin-tae, the governor of the province, to run for the election among those who were on the party's duty, except for the announcement that Kim Haeng or those people were on the nomination committee at the time that they were able to run the election in this way. No one says this. The person who says that is Myung Taekyun. Isn't it a news tomato report that Lee Myung-tae-kyun met and helped first lady Kim Gun-hee and said to the president, "Do you want to call or do I want to call?"

◆ Sin-ryul: So what is Seo Young-kyo saying is, I don't know why there are so many people who did it, you mean that there aren't really that many.

◇ Seo Young-kyo: Who came out? We don't have that. As far as I know. I don't know if there's anyone who said they helped Kim Jin-tae become governor. In my opinion, if Governor Kim Jin-tae wants to make a clear excuse about this, he should do it like this: he didn't meet Kim Gun-hee, he didn't pledge his loyalty, he didn't go to see her then, he didn't know me, he didn't talk to me, didn't he?

◆ Shin Yul: Okay. Is there anything else that the fact-finding team is investigating about the suspicions related to the Changwon Industrial Complex?

◇ Seo Young-kyo: In Changwon Industrial Complex, we have a confidential leak investigation headquarters of Changwon Industrial Complex in our fact-finding headquarters of Myeong Tae-kyun Gate.

◆ Shin Yul: So you mean there's a separate branch in the fact-finding team, right?

◇ Seo Young-kyo: We have four branches within the fact-finding mission. So one of them is the Changwon Industrial Complex Confidential Leakage Investigation Headquarters. The headquarters is the Land, Infrastructure and Transport Committee, which was Yeom Tae-young, the current land committee member, Changwon Mayor, and Heo Sung-moo, the current land committee member, and Kim Ki-pyo, a former prosecutor. Another person is in charge of the Land, Infrastructure and Transport Committee, Rep. Jeon Young-ki. So, the Land, Infrastructure and Transport Committee was looking into the Changwon Industrial Complex. That's why we went down to the site on the 15th and met all the people there. So when we met, the state secrets of Changwon Industrial Complex were leaked early through Myung Tae-kyun or through the office of Representative Kim Young-sun, and the land was sold more than three times as much as usual under the leaked motivation. It was sold more than three times, and the area was about 10 times larger. And in the meantime, this land is the owner in the register of people like this, an acquaintance of Myung Tae-kyun's acquaintance. And what kind of relationship is there in this process? I brought a list of people. Such content is already openly talked about in Changwon. A committee was set up to do that, and I think it's a picture of the Changwon Industrial Complex going well while making a toast with Myung Tae-kyun. There is a list of people at such a toast place, so we are thoroughly investigating everything. But we're not doing as much as the investigation. So, with this basis, I've already told the media about this. And now we're looking into it again. And then you'll take legal action on this.

◆ Shin Yul: Let me ask you something else. The first trial of Lee Jae-myung's perjury investigation is not next Monday. But this morning, he expressed his trust to the judiciary, saying that he conveyed the meaning of gratitude and respect. How do you expect the first trial ruling?

◇ Seo Young-kyo: The ruling on the 15th was too harsh for everyone. How was it that the most important thing was not to know Kim Moon-ki with his remarks? But I was acquitted of that. It's innocent.
◆ Sin Yul: Partly innocent. That's

◇ Seo Young-kyo: It's a crime to say that you don't know Kim Moon-ki. There's a picture of what I said as I went to golf-related content that I didn't say there. I'm saying that this picture is a fake. Because several people took it, but only four people took it, so they were guilty of this, as if only four people took it after playing golf. So I've never seen a judgment like 100 is 100. One year in prison and two years of probation. Everyone seems to say that this is a very excessive judgment. The prosecution's sentence was like that, and the court's sentence is really incomprehensible and unimaginable. I've been serving as a member of the judiciary for several years. With my sense of politics, with my sense of old sense, it's innocent.

◆ Shin Yul: But what about the perjury teacher?

◇ Seo Young-kyo: The 25th is the same, and I think that there is no content of a teacher who says this is a perjury teacher. And this is a 30-minute conversation. However, the prosecution put it together in a 7-minute format and uploaded it in a 7-minute format. The court asked me what would happen if I had filed a seven-minute indictment by squeezing a half-hour into seven minutes to ask the head of the court administration directly, but I have no evidence. That's what I said.

◆ Didn't you turn it on later?

◇ Seo Young-kyo: So let's listen to the whole thing. I keep talking when I hear the whole thing. You don't have to do anything else to tell me just as you are. They ask me to tell them as they are. So I don't think there's anything that investigated perjury. So I think that innocence should come out.

◆ Shin Yul: And why is there any misappropriation of corporate credit cards that Lee Jae-myung has been additionally indicted? It is said that this has been allocated to the North Korean remittance court, so how do you evaluate this?

◇ Seo Young-kyo: The mayor of Hong Joon Pyo says that despite the fact that the party is different, it seems that he prosecuted it as a disgrace despite a lot of competition. It's something I really don't understand. No, the corporate card is a card that uses meals for meetings while working or other things necessary for work. I'm asking you to do work-related things. So that's what it's about, and if you prosecute it, everyone else is subject to prosecution. The president is also subject to prosecution.

◆ Shin Yul: It was distributed to the North Korea Remittance Tribunal because we asked the North Korea Remittance Tribunal to be reallocated. But the fact that it's allotted again... Are you going to just stay still this time? How do you see it?

◇ Seo Young-kyo: So this is the first court, isn't it? Then it's a sufficient reason to look at the content and avoid it. And it could be a reason to avoid it. And I think it's right for the court itself to avoid it by itself, saying, "I'm involved with another trial before that, so we'll turn the trial over to another place."

◆ Shin Yul: It's right to avoid it on your own, I see.

◇ Seo Young-kyo: Or I think we should avoid it or ask them to avoid it.

◆ Shin Yul: And I think former lawmaker Seol Hoon said this on today's show. I think there will be 40 to 50 people who have not been nominated by the Democratic Party in the last general election. When the time comes, we can gather quickly, and if we need to, we can all gather within a week. In other words, it means that the screaming world can move now, what do you think?

◇ Seo Young-kyo: I don't know why you're talking about that. I don't think it's time to talk about that now. If you gather and have a meeting, it will go as it is, but I don't think you have any other intentions in the current situation. I don't think it's right to talk with that other intention.

◆ Shin Yul: I also said that it's common sense to resign. Former lawmaker Seol Hoon said

◇ Seo Young-kyo: Oh, is that so? He's been saying that since he was around. We talked about that during the general election, too. We talked about that even before the general election. Even before the general election, he continued to say that he should resign even in front of Chairman Lee Jae-myung. But he has led the general election well. I've been overcoming the arrest warrant. As you can see from the contents, many people see that this is content that is open to dispute. And don't many people say that the ruling of the first trial is too much? So we hope that we will make efforts and the court will make a proper judgment so that we can overcome this well.

◆ Sin Yul: And this is a bit of a different story, but the presidential office. Representative Seo Young-kyo may not have read this article because he was busy.

◇ Seo Young-kyo: I had a lot of work today.

◆ Sin-ryul: What the President's Office has said may require considerable time to reshuffle the Cabinet. I made this position. Isn't it about personnel reform?

◇ Seo Young-kyo: It may take a considerable amount of time.

◆ Sin Yul: What do you think?

◇ Seo Young-kyo: People will think that the president is indecisive even if he is in such a reshuffle of personnel and has no intention of doing it properly. The personnel appointments so far have done what the president wants. No matter what the people say, they did what they wanted to do as president. And even if there was an Itaewon disaster, I wanted to hold the Minister of Public Administration and Security, and there are many stories that the president's wife's breath works a lot in this personnel appointment. According to Myung Tae-kyun's recording, he instructs his husband to sit down with whom the minister should sit. There was also a recording like this. So, I think the personnel reshuffle should come first if the people's approval rating is trying to lead the country properly in a situation where President Yoon Suk Yeol is falling. But it's a pity that I don't think I have the strength or ability to reshuffle.

◆ Shin Yul: And one more thing is that Gallup Korea's poll came out today. From the 19th to the 21st, we conducted a telephone interview survey of 1,001 voters aged 18 or older nationwide. For more information, if you look at the poll on the website of the Central Election Public Opinion Review Committee, isn't there actually a first trial of representative Lee Jae-myung? The Public Official Election Act. In this regard, this was a so-called just judgment, 43% unfair political oppression, and then 1% higher to 42%. How do you judge this?

◇ Seo Young-kyo: 42% say it was unfair political oppression?

◆ Sin Rhyul: 42%.

◇ Seo Young-kyo: 42%?

◆ Sin Rhyul: The legitimate judgment is 43%.

◇ Seo Young-kyo: Yes, the court's ruling is actually all evil, but it's a situation where we can't even talk about it well. I've never seen a ruling like this. I've never seen him hit a prison sentence for saying this. That's why it's a ridiculous ruling. And the same goes for this ruling. But we don't just attack. But most people have to accept court rulings. Wouldn't the people think so? So if 43% of the people say it is an unfair political suppression despite the court ruling, and 42% say it is an unfair political suppression, the court's ruling is usually correct. You think like this. However, 42% of the respondents say no, so I think the more the court passes, the more it will say no, although the court always thinks it has made the right decision. A lot of people almost beat the presidential candidate by 0.6 percent in the election. I think that such a person is not paid for the highest person as a presidential candidate of the Republic of Korea in the future, nor did he do anything else, but while speaking during an interview, he beat up the ambiguous sentence and thinks it's unfair.

◆ Shin Yul: Okay. Senator, you must have been busy today, but thank you so much for the interview. Thank you.

◇ Seo Young-kyo: Thank you. Yes

◆ Shin Yul: I was Seo Young-kyo of the Democratic Party of Korea.