□ Broadcast date and time: November 25, 2024 (Mon)
□ Host: Lee Ik-seon, Choi Soo-young
□ Performers: Kim Ki-heung, former deputy spokesperson for the president's office, Choi Byung-cheon, head of the New Growth Economic Research Institute
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◆Lee Ik-seon: This time, let's go to the controversy over the bulletin board of the party members. Kim Eun-hye, a member of the People's Power, said on social media yesterday, "Where did Han Dong-hoon go who was smart about all that smart stuff? ” He posted a comment criticizing the party's bulletin board, which has become controversial under the name of a representative's family. In fact, I think lawmaker Kim Eun-hye received more attention because she has refrained from exposing the media.
□Kim Ki-heung: That's right. As far as I know, you were the senior secretary for public relations in the presidential office, right? But I think it's the first time I've mentioned this kind of internal issue to the media since then. Of course, it is not targeted at reporters, but if you post it on Facebook, it is of course an article, so you have no choice but to interpret your position politically. Nevertheless, in terms of the fact that I wrote it, I think this is a pro-yoon or a close friend in the party. Apart from that perspective, Han Dong-hoon, the representative of the party, should wrap up the controversy over such negative factors within the party. I think there's some consensus like that. But what I don't understand a little bit about CEO Han Dong-hoon is that this is not a difficult challenge. In fact, it's a very simple problem, but it's complicated because it's legal, police investigation, and party audit, but this is more controversial. So, even now, when CEO Han Dong-hoon called and asked his family if they had used this, he didn't. Then you can say that you didn't use it, and if you did, you can apologize for the part that you used it. However, it is difficult for me to agree with what you said at the meeting this morning about 'there is some force trying to bring me down'. Because when a person asks a question and answers, the 'I' has to be the same. When I ask questions, it's very sharp because it's like this, but when I answer, I shouldn't answer vaguely. He's a very clear person what he asked for from CEO Han Dong-hoon. What did you say about the legal part when you were drinking in Cheongdam-dong? I'll bet you a minister. I talked about it, and then I mentioned my spouse about proportional representation at the national convention after Won Hee-ryong was nominated for minister, so I just got it like this, "Can I retire from politics?" And what did he say when the recordings of the president and Myung Tae-kyun were released? If you look at it from here, this is not the time to put legal principles first. So I said that I had to solve this problem, but CEO Han Dong-hoon, who breaks it like that, said, "Why does this happen to me?" If I do that, I keep having more suspicions.
◆ Proficiency line: Such a misunderstanding occurs?
□Kim Ki-heung: Isn't it not enough to talk about CEO Lee Jae-myung on a day like this? In that sense, I have to organize something and go.
◇Choi Soo-young: I want to ask you one more question. But right now, the close community is raising conspiracy theories. So what this is is, why are people suspected of having a relationship with Myung Tae-kyun criticizing one after another? There was a question raised by Supreme Council member Kim Jong-hyuk, who said that he was raising this to cover up suspicions, targeting Mayor Hong Joon Pyo, Daegu Mayor Na Kyung-won, and Kim Eun-hye.
□Kim Ki-heung: If I raise a conspiracy theory, there should be no basis for it. It's a conspiracy theory. And some people say that CEO Han Dong-hoon is trying to push back after holding it in. So what I told him was that CEO Han Dong-hoon has some cards. But you're going to eat it and then shoot it big? It doesn't make sense. Because you're being attacked and not helping yourself, but for what personal benefit are you staying down and beating back? That doesn't make sense, and I think CEO Han Dong-hoon knows something. If so, it may be very difficult. Now that he is a prosecutor, politicians can immediately apologize and sometimes swear if he does something wrong, but I don't think it is directly related to the resignation of the party leader, even if Han Dong-hoon's family posted inappropriate messages about it. So I think you can talk a little more comfortably.
■Choi Byung-cheon: From the observer's point of view, he said he would take the position of minister when there was a controversy over drinking in Cheongdam-dong. That was also a conspiracy theory. They're also doing it wrong in response to conspiracy theories. Even if you're in politics, there can be conspiracy theories. Politics tends to be a bit of a fight, so the other side may or may not have had a conspiracy, but as a response to the conspiracy theory, is it effective now? It is a response that fosters conspiracy theories. The conspiracy theory is that you can apologize if you have something to apologize for, such as a minister, a representative, a political life, or a fact-finding investigation. Even if the other party conspired. But if you keep losing your answer while saying you have a conspiracy, you're helping the conspiracy. That's right, as we've been dragging out the issues that can be sorted out in the early stages for about 20 days. The issue has gotten a lot bigger. Not long ago, when I asked President Yoon Suk Yeol for a solo meeting, I asked him to clear up the issue of First Lady Kim Gun-hee, and he said that Lee Jae-myung's representative trial will be held on the 15th and 25th. Also, in the meantime of Lee Jae-myung's first and second trials, all of them were covered by the issue of the party's bulletin board. Then it's like making this a more important issue than the issue of Mrs. Kim Gun-hee. Whether this was intended or not, so it is responding very inappropriately in response to conspiracies. This can lead to an evaluation of political power in a different sense. So I think it's desirable to tie the knot early.
◆Lee Ik-seon: On the other hand, there was a war of words between representative Han Dong-hoon and former supreme council member Kim Min at the Supreme Council of People's Power this morning. Former lawmaker Kim Min-won said that the party officials, including some supreme council members, are Pal Dong-hoon, so the number is 8. There was an article in the media that said, "How did you find out that there was a man named Pal Dong-hoon? How did you find out that we didn't know that he was there? Why did you file a complaint against all the texts that sent me to resign?" He said, "It would be nice if Han Dong-hoon could check the facts and make a statement." It is said that during the closed meeting, they even heard a loud voice due to an argument between participants. I wonder if the conflict is escalating if this happens.
□Kim Ki-heung: So the party recognized it now and it's the same name under the name of CEO Han Dong-hoon. There are about eight people like that. It's not like all the Han Dong-hoon in Paldo are gathering. Anyway, I think it's unexpected. Anyway, you believe that he is a person of the same name and CEO Han Dong-hoon believes that he is not himself. It's organized. Then there's a lot of controversy about the next problem, but I think we should be criticized. In a way with this problem, it's never relaxing. Representative Lee Jae-myung is in a situation where we can't just laugh about the judicial risk and the international situation is very difficult, so we have to do some kind of writing policy of the ruling party, and this is actually not an expression, but it fits well with some kind of public interest. I think it's very volatile from that point of view, as if there's a sense of affection and a dark battle. That's why I saw the article that we have to go head-to-head in a way. If it's too much to say that you're accusing CEO Han Dong-hoon of something, you have to overdo it quickly and correct it.
◆Lee Ik-seon: But the core of this story is that we know that eight Han Dong-hoon are not representatives of Han Dong-hoon.
□Kim Ki-heung: What is that? From the former Supreme Council member Kim Min-jeon's point of view, he saw that the party recognized something like this, but why don't you give it to me? People in the so-called close circle go somewhere and say they are the same name.
◇Choi Soo-young: Why am I the only one who doesn't know?
□Kim Ki-heung: That's right. Why don't they give us some complaints about why the closeness community gives information and plays the role of playing the role of a speaker and fence CEO Han Dong-hoon?
◇Choi Soo-young: That's why Shin Ji-ho, the head of the strategic planning department, is talking about a maneuver beyond a conspiracy. Following the controversy over the white paper of the general election, the controversy over ignoring Kim's text message is said to be the third manipulation. How do you view this from the perspective of the analyst?
■Choi Byung-cheon: This may or may not be a duke, but the political circle is just like that. What do you mean, a spokesperson? You're attacking the other party. In reality, most of the spokesperson comments from both parties are attacking the other party. So, bullets fly in the political arena, sometimes shells fly, hide them, and take counterattacks. However, as I said earlier, the suspicion of drinking in Cheongdam-dong was raised regardless of whether Kim Eui-gyeom knew it or not. When something is raised incorrectly and insufficiently, how to respond to it is important. The other party can be a conspiracy theory, fact, exaggeration, or some maneuver at any time. What matters is how to respond to the important thing. Or, in politics, an attack on the other party without any maneuvering did not come into the industry without any conspiracy. This is not the kind of political industry. That's because the nature of politics itself has continued from the Three Kingdoms period to the present, but you didn't know that and come in. And hey, why are you guys attacking us? Don't attack us. That's a very idle talk. So right now, and I think one of the main news yesterday was that a total survey was conducted by 1,000 people. So I thought, did they say that the controversy would subside if they did a full investigation, or of course, it would be louder if they did a full investigation. So, since pro-Yoon Jin-young is not a thoughtless person, of course, he raises questions such as, "Who did the full investigation based on what standards did the total investigation?" I have to think about how to do this, admit that I'll admit it, apologize, and think about fur. If you try to avoid it in this way, I think this is a silly response to increasing the issue in general.
◆ Lee Ik-seon: I see. Let's talk about the recordings of pollack bacteria that are revealed one after another. Additional recordings containing circumstantial evidence that Myung intervened in the election of Cho Eun-hee, a member of the People's Power, in Seocho-gap, Seoul, have been released. The Democratic Party claims that Myung is suspected of conducting an illegal poll by receiving a list of party members from Representative Cho. How do you see this?
□Kim Ki-heung: So in the end, it's about talking to Kang Hye-kyung, but there are two characters, but it's actually Myung Tae-kyun's writing. So I don't know how far the facts go. But I think there are too many people who this person knows about Myung Tae-kyun and people who were involved in it compared to the absolute time. As a result, there is a limitation in that several recordings made by the Democratic Party of Korea other than the recordings of the president and Myung Tae-kyun at first can resonate. If so, I think the Democratic Party should set up a separate strategy right away. Regardless of the truth, if there are conspiracies and maneuvers, as our director said, we should set up the operation well. So I'm tired now, so I have too many characters. If so, from the perspective of the Democratic Party of Korea, if you want to attack the president and First Lady Kim Gun-hee, you should shoot mainly him. I'm confused because I'm mentioning all the names because I'm doing a lot of different people. Then, whether we don't want it or not, they made a presentation like this, but it came to a situation where it became water for each other. So, I don't think it can make a big impact anymore, and I see it as the prosecution's time. I think the prosecution should investigate and calmly prosecute and try if there is a problem.
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