Kim Young-woo, "Shooting out 韓로 with 'Tangge'? "I feel a bad sign of the Kim Gun-hee Special Counsel Act."

<Kim Young-woo, former member of the People's Power>
- The essence of the 與's 'controversy over the party' is a power struggle, pro-yoon 'Han Dong-hoon should step down'
- Lee Jae-myung, 'Trump model' orientation? Eventually go to 'Biden Model'

<Rep. Park Joo-min of the Democratic Party of Korea>
- It seems like the crisis consciousness of the pro-yoon suspected of 'controversy of the party' of the 與, Myung Tae-kyun, has been added to
- It is necessary to be judged by the Constitutional Court of the Election Law..There's room for a dispute over the meaning of Article 250.

[News FM Lee Ik-seon Choi Soo-young Issue & People]

□ Broadcast date and time: November 27, 2024 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Lee Ik-seon, Choi Soo-young
□ Performers: Kim Young-woo, former member of the People's Power, Park Joo-min, member of the Democratic Party of Korea

- Prosecutor Impeachment Is Not because of Li's Election Law Conviction
- Considerable anxiety over the vote on Kim Gun-hee's Special Prosecutor Act, Rep. Chung Jin-seok's meeting seems to have gathered

* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.
◆Choi Soo-young: For the third time, President Yoon exercised his right to request reconsideration of the Special Counsel Act on First Lady Kim. In anticipation of the president's veto, the floor leaders of the ruling and opposition parties agreed to re-vote the Kim First Lady Special Prosecutor Act, which was originally scheduled for tomorrow. Let's postpone it until the 10th of next month. Representative Park, is this a case where the current situation of the Democratic Party of Korea's understanding, demands, and people's power fits all?

□Park Joo-min: I don't know. Specifically, I don't know what circumstances the two parties agreed to. If you guess, the power of the people is too loud, and our party doesn't have to hurry up and do this, but I think it's a little right.

◆Choi Soo-young: Then I think the 10th will be processed because we agreed on it, but then lawmaker Kim, did you accept that the power of the people will be done on the 10th because of the controversy over the bulletin board?

■Kim Young-woo: I don't know. I don't know what's inside.Ma doesn't seem to have a direct relationship with the party's bulletin board, but from what I see, I think Kim Gun-hee's concerns about the Special Prosecutor Act will deepen. To be honest, and since you mentioned the bulletin board, it's going in the form of a power struggle. That's the essence of the bulletin board incident, and it's a power struggle, and I'm going to drive out CEO Han Dong-hoon. Actually, that's what I see. Even if CEO Han Dong-hoon says so, he will probably demand the next step with that. I don't know. You have to explain it really well, and I wonder if you can do it, but there will be no end to this. That's why I think Han Dong-hoon will continue to tighten until he resigns. In this situation, it is dangerous to see what will happen to the Special Prosecutor Kim Gun-hee Act if it goes too far into an extreme power struggle conflict. If I do something wrong, I feel some signs that it's not good. I've been a spokesperson for a long time in the past, and I've been a spokesperson three times, and when I was a member of the Supreme Council, I was also a collective guidance system. The 2nd and 3rd place bit the party leader again, so I've seen it so many times, but it's similar to then. The matter itself is very different. At that time, I still fought with something a little bigger. I've never fought like this with a party bulletin board. Party members' bulletin boards are always complicated, noisy, and all sorts of things are written on the party members' bulletin board. That's right. That's the purpose of that. It's for the purpose. If all the party leaders approve of the president's praise, what kind of living bulletin board would that be? Cheer up. Way to go! If you do this, it's going to be some kind of bulletin board. But I don't like representative Han Dong-hoon for being so noisy with this bulletin board. First of all, from Chin-yoon's point of view, it's a little frustrating from Han Dong-hoon's point of view, but he can't solve it well at once and it's hard to say that it's covering up the Myung-Tae-kyun case. But maybe this is the principle for you. Whether my family wrote it, relatives wrote it, or in-laws wrote it on the bulletin board, which should be operated anonymously, I think it is only from the legal standpoint that it is right to be protected. So it's hard to solve, but the essence is a power struggle.

◇Lee Ik-seon: But you used the expression, "This could be very dangerous," does that mean that there could be more than eight votes in favor of the re-voting of the Special Counsel Act on Mrs. Kim?

■ Kim Young-woo: So if you go too far, the power of the Democratic Party and the people is very reformed, and the Democratic Party of Korea Chairman Lee Jae-myung was acquitted of perjury.It's time to reform and focus on the economy and people's livelihoods as the end of the year approaches. But if both sides can't see it now, if the people's power drives Han Dong-hoon to a corner like this, it's not the current floor situation that's being driven by some kind of instruction from Han Dong-hoon. Even from a close friend. I think it's not very good.

◆Choi Soo-young: That's why the police investigation has just begun regarding lawmaker Park's alleged party bulletin board. So, as Representative Kim said, an investigation has also been launched into the alleged operation of the comment team when representative Han Dong-hoon was a minister. It's an investigation based on accusations by civic groups. If this happens, the word "Extracting Han Dong-hoon" is called the second Kim Ok-gyun project in political terms. Then, do you think we're going in that direction?

□Park Joo-min: In fact, I saw that Kim Jong-in, former chairman of the emergency committee, also said that today. In fact, when the controversy over the party's bulletin board first arose, I felt like it was so loud with nothing. So there might be a twist. In fact, I looked at it and went through various processes, and I thought it would be sorted out after a while, but seeing the controversy continue to grow, I think it's not just a problem with some articles on the real party board, but it's becoming a power struggle and a political battle. And in the background, I think the other side is suspected of pollack bacteria. The so-called real pro-yoon lawmakers are often mentioned. In addition, they may have a sense of crisis. If they do something wrong, they may be pushed out, so before that, I think they are trying to neutralize or push out CEO Han Dong-hoon and people in close relationships.

◇Lee Ik-seon: Kim Jong-in, former chairman of the People's Power Emergency Response Committee, said, "There is a possibility that the age of the next president will decrease. I said that the only person who can have hope in the power of the people is the current party leader Han Dong-hoon. I don't know right now. This comment seems to be receiving quite a lot of attention because he was nicknamed Kingmaker in the past.

■Kim Young-woo: It's not influential because President Yoon cut everything by two years. Well, there's been a lot of talk about changing the generation. In fact, the same is true of the Democratic Party of Korea, but the generation of the 586 movement is the same. have done one's duty There's a lot of talk about this. There's a limit to politics. In the new civilized era. There is such talk, but in practical terms, it is the next presidential candidate of the people's power. Mayor Oh Se-hoon, CEO Han Dong-hoon, and others outside.I think Chairman Kim Jong-in is talking about that wish. I don't know that. I still have more than two and a half years left, so I still don't know who will actually set the stage for a star in the next presidential election, as Chairman Kim Jong-in said, but I think he probably said the wind, and many people in the political world say that it's better to be young. That's what I'm thinking, too.

◇ Profit line: But why at this point? Is there a reason why you are talking about representative Han, who is in crisis, as the next presidential candidate at a time when you feel that the reputation of emergency committee chairman Kim Jong-in is slightly tarnished because of Myung Tae-kyun?

■Kim Young-woo: I don't know. I think I have a good feeling about CEO Han Dong-hoon. So, for example, Lee Joon-seok, Han Dong-hoon, I think he has a basic interest in such young people and I think he has some expectations. And I think he said that because he doesn't seem to like people's manners, political manners, and politics that he did in the past. But I don't know.

◆Choi Soo-young: Let's talk about the Democratic Party for a second. The Democratic Party of Korea seems to have taken a breather in Lee Jae-myung's acquittal of perjury teachers, but lawmaker Park also made a statement like this, so would there be no problem with Lee Jae-myung's unification?

□Park Joo-min: Regardless of the court's first trial decision, I remember telling you that I would go straight.

◆Choi Soo-young: That's right. Nevertheless, within the party, the Public Official Election Act was found guilty, so we have to go to the second trial. By the way, if it becomes the 633 principle, we can go a little faster, so are there any concerns about this?

□Park Joo-min: Actually, I've read all the rulings of the Public Official Election Act from beginning to end, and I've analyzed them and done some research. I told you a little yesterday on other discussion programs, but I decided that the ruling itself was a little less logical. As a real legal professional, there are many parts that the Supreme Court arbitrarily interpreted or ignored various standards and principles that have been established by the Supreme Court, so this part seems to be sufficiently revised in the appeal trial. For example, there are several criteria for judging that it is false. Principles ignored that which the Supreme Court established.Or there are cases in which the Supreme Court has set out a number of situations, but they have ignored logic and standards that correspond.I can see things like that, so I think that part will be corrected.

◆Choi Soo-young: That's why some in the political circle have the Trump model in mind. So, I will break through this judicial risk by buying some time, so to speak, the first trial's violation of the election law seems to have such an intention to delay it by filing a constitutional petition and applying for a judge's avoidance, etc. Do you agree with the analysis that it seems to be intended to prevent the determination of the limited voting rights until the election of the presidential candidate?

■Kim Young-woo: I don't know. However, some say that they will aim for the Trump model, but there is a high possibility that they will eventually go to the Biden case. But I think the analysis makes sense. Because at first glance, I thought of a frog in the boiling water, and it's a little cruel, but I think that various crises have been delayed and put on hold. In the case of representative Lee Jae-myung and in the case of the Democratic Party, the perjury teacher was acquitted in the first trial, but other criminal trials remain, so the crisis has not been completely resolved. However, as the perjury teacher is acquitted in the first trial, CEO Lee Jae-myung's leadership will be stronger and stronger, and he will continue. But as time goes by, the first trial of the election law is confirmed in the second trial, I think it would be really difficult. But then the election is really approaching, and I'm sure I'll fall into this worry about whether I should replace the candidates at the end or not. That's Biden's case. As a result, for the Democratic Party, it is not easy as time goes by, even though it is breathing a little bit of relief now. It could go deeper into the bog. It's hard to take out your feet and that's what I thought.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: What do you think of this interpretation? Representative Park Joo-min

□Park Joo-min: As I said, I don't have to say that because I just looked at the political outlook, and even if I just analyze the ruling, I think it's a little too much to think about now because I think that the ruling on the Public Official Election Act, which was convicted this time, is sufficiently corrected at the appeal trial.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: I see. However, the Democratic Party of Korea is also considering proposing an unconstitutional law for the crime of publicizing false information within the election law. If the Constitutional Court accepts this, the second trial of the election law will be put on hold, right?

□Park Joo-min: So, if the request for an unconstitutional legal trial is accepted, we are waiting for the Constitutional Court's decision. First of all, when the court receives a request for an unconstitutional legal trial, the court judges it first. If you send it to the Constitutional Court because you think you need to be judged on the unconstitutionality, it will be suspended, and if you don't want to send it to the Constitutional Court, the case will continue. Therefore, the speed of the case is controlled by judgment in the court, so we don't control it.

◆Choi Soo-young: I'm reviewing it, do you have any plans now?

□Park Joo-min: If you ask me to give an opinion on this or give advice to the representative, I think I'll ask him to try it. Because there has been a dispute over the meaning of the act itself in Article 250 of the Public Official Election Act. In the meantime, there has been a legal dispute over what the hell this means, so it is necessary to judge that part by the Constitutional Court.

◇Lee Ik-seon: The Democratic Party is seeking to impeach the three prosecutors who did not prosecute the case of First Lady Kim Gun-hee's Deutsche stock price manipulation. It was decided to vote on the impeachment motion against three people, including Lee Chang-soo, head of the Seoul Central District Prosecutors' Office, at the plenary session on the 4th of next week. What do you think about this content?

■Kim Young-woo: I don't think impeachment of the prosecutor is the card that the Democratic Party will bring up now. Justice and truth won the court's ruling this time. We talked about this, but of course, the Democratic Party seems to be responding by separating a prosecutor and a judge. I think it's a double strategy that tightens the neck of the prosecution and then raises the budget for judges, so I want to look good. But impeaching an investigative prosecutor or something like that is hard to be supported by public sentiment. In my view, because they are all parties, the other party is being investigated, and if the prosecutors say that this is too much to investigate, it would be cool for the public to question and criticize them, but in my view, impeachment of the prosecutor is not a good card. Anyway, during the Moon Jae In government, the government was changed due to the inspection and completion of the inspection. But even if there are still many bad perceptions of prosecutors, I'm not very convincing at the parliamentary level to do so at the political party level.

◆Choi Soo-young: But when the first trial was ruled, CEO Lee Jae-myung said, "Let's not kill people but save people." Some point out that it is contradictory to proceed with impeachment like this.

□Park Joo-min: Actually, this impeachment was discussed for a while, not yesterday and today. So it's not like I decided after looking at this ruling because it was in the process. I think it would be good if you could look at that separately.

◇Lee Ik-seon: Presidential Chief of Staff Chung Jin-suk recently had a luncheon meeting with about 40 ruling party lawmakers, including floor leader Choo Kyung-ho. It is known that the meeting is a meeting where the party and the government pledged to harmonize with each other to mark the halfway point of the president's term, but there are various analyses coming out over this meeting, what did you think?

■Kim Young-woo: I think it's about doing well while eating. Let's do it well.
◆Choi Soo-young: It means nothing more. Not the party leader passing?

■Kim Young-woo: It's for active lawmakers, and the president's office and representative Han Dong-hoon are not getting along well. Passing what the world knows. But it's true that we don't get along well before discussing passing or not, and active lawmakers in the presidential office, let's do well anyway. Also, there is a budget and various things, so of course, there is an independent counsel law.

□Park Joo-min: I think the independent counsel law will be big. Some people are saying that we should not go into the voting booth at all, so it seems to show considerable anxiety now, and as Representative Kim said earlier, it is because of some controversy over the bulletin board of party members.

◆Choi Soo-young: So are you saying that the 10th of next month could be a watershed moment?

□Park Joo-min: Until then, if there is any harmony inside the party, you don't know if it keeps making noise and making noise like this.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: Thank you. He was joined by two of his friends, Park Joo-min of the Democratic Party of Korea and Kim Young-woo of the former People's Power. Thank you.