[News Fighting] Arguably, Yang Ki-dae said, "Democrats should look back on whether the prosecutor and auditor are impeached by law."

[YTN Radio News Fighting Bae Seunghee]
□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15 - 09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: November 29, 2024 (Fri)
□ Host: Attorney Bae Seung-hee
□ Cast: Yang Ki-dae, former lawmaker of the Democratic Party of Korea

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◆ Attorney Bae Seung-hee (hereinafter referred to as Bae Seung-hee): I'm Bae Seung-hee, the news fighting. We will continue with the third part of the issue interview. Today, we will talk with Yang Ki-dae, a former lawmaker of the Democratic Party of Korea, who is the first secretary of the Scream Group. Hello,

◇ Former Democratic Party member Yang Ki-dae (hereinafter referred to as Yang Ki-dae): Former lawmaker Yang Ki-dae of Gwangmyeong. Nice to meet you.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Did you get killed?

◇Expectation: Should we use it from the morning when we scream like that? It's a meeting where we think hard for our country.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: In fact, as CEO Lee Jae-myung is acquitted in the first trial of perjury, rumors of a crisis in November seem to have subsided, but there are still five trials left. I think I can burn at any time in the wake of judicial risk. In this regard, I think the first time, this first time, can be an alternative. It's known as the Democratic Party's non-territorial gathering, but what motivated it to be?

◇Expectation: Yes. Fifteen former Democratic Party lawmakers, including Park Kwang-won and Park Yong-jin, who suffered in the last general election, formed a primary council in early June. Let's think about the way forward for the Democratic Party of Korea, come up with alternatives to national strategies and visions, and let's study a little bit. We have invited political leaders, political elders, and experts from all walks of life to listen to special lectures and discuss them once a month. Former Foreign Minister Yoon Young-kwan and former lawmaker Yoo In-tae, who is good at bitter words, are also here. So we've been doing a lot of those activities, especially in the Democratic Party, and we hope that we can bring back some pent-up voices and contribute to selecting a good presidential candidate for the transition of power, which is the mission of the times.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Who are you talking about in the Democratic Party?

◇Expectation: You know everything, but you're saying it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: No, please tell me.

◇Expectation: Anyway, isn't it the Democratic Party that is completely in control of the Democratic Party as Chairman Lee Jae-myung becomes the party leader for the second time and only one voice is coming out right now? In that case, isn't the Democratic Party a good shortcut to a regime change in the case of the Democratic Party of Korea only when various voices come out and the voices converge with each other to gain more trust from the people and create synergy?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You're still a Democrat.

◇ Expectations: Yes, no, not just yet, forever

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Chuu is doing activities like this. Next, former Prime Minister Kim Boo-kyum's special lecture is announced. Are you starting now with CEO Lee Jae-myung's judicial risks in mind?

◇ Yang-dae: That's not it. As I said earlier, I planned it a long time ago in the schedule of inviting political raw materials for political leaders, but it seems that the poem coincidentally matched. There is a lot of interest right now, but since Prime Minister Kim went to the U.S. during the presidential election last time, he will speak his opinions on the Korea-U.S. relationship and the international situation after the U.S. presidential election and have discussions in various fields.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Yes. What about former Governor Kim Kyung-soo?

◇ Yang-dae: He hasn't returned home yet, and he hasn't expressed any particular position, so I think there will be many other discussions when he returns home. Yes.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Representative Lee Jae-myung was recently convicted in the first trial of the Public Official Election Act. The perjury teacher was acquitted, but there are still other trials to come. Some people have to resign. I have to resign as a lawmaker and wait humbly for a trial. And there are a lot of people to represent. We're talking about that. What about this position?

◇Expectation: First of all, President Yoon Suk Yeol's performance is so great that I think it is necessary for the Democratic Party of Korea to fight against Lee Jae-myung as a single opponent. However, if the Democratic Party of Korea gives the impression that it is too focused on defending Lee's business risks, and if President Yoon Suk Yeol fails, even the Democratic Party of Korea should conduct legislative activities and government checks for a country for various people as a majority party in the National Assembly, but the people say they don't like that. And there is a saying that the Democratic Party of Korea also has less unity than it imagined to lead such public anger to judgment of the regime. In particular, even looking at the disability indicators, it seems better for the middle-of-the-road Korean people and conscientious conservative forces to gather together. So now, I think that the Democratic Party of Korea and Chairman Lee Jae-myung can reflect on that a little more and show more leadership in the direction that the people want and push the judgment of the current Yoon Suk Yeol regime more strongly. In parallel with judicial risks, various orders will be made for the Democratic Party of Korea and especially for Chairman Lee Jae-myung. At this point, we must first think about what kind of wise behavior Chairman Lee Jae-myung is doing for himself and the party and for the country. I'd like to understand that.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You mean that things are wise.

◇Expectations: I can't say that explicitly at the moment, but I think the most important thing is how the people judge

◆ Bae Seung-hee: What about the former lawmaker of Seoul? There are about 40 to 50 people who didn't get nominated in the last general election, and they said they would gather soon when the time came.

◇Expectation: Now they are giving a breath, but I think there is a possibility that they will move when the time comes. But I think what's more important is the current non-critics within the Democratic Party and the current members of the centrist group. They are not moving because of the idea that they should fight with a single team centered on Lee at a time when the public's criticism of the Yoon Suk Yeol regime is so great, but as you said earlier, if there are signs that Lee's judicial risk becomes a reality and that the Democratic Party is in crisis, there is a possibility that they will be agitated, and there is an expectation that such things will be an opportunity to revitalize the new Democratic Party.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You can gather in screams. In the case of lawmaker Park Yong-jin, I think he will be quite active

◇Expectation: He seems to be preparing a lot of things right now. Yes.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Can we also establish a relationship with the new Future Party? Scream world

◇ Expectations: We're already drawing a line with the new Democratic Party or those involved. Because there's a sentence. We are all members of the Democratic Party, and first of all, we are focusing on activities within the Democratic Party because we believe that the Democratic Party should play a leading role in the judgment of the Yoon administration and the change of government, which is a new demand of the times.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: If you say you want to broaden your voice within the party, can you accept it? to join

◇Expectation: It's obvious that we're all members of the Democratic Party right now, so in the beginning,

◆ Bae Seunghee: Another voice

◇Expectation: It will vary depending on various political changes, so it's hard for me to jump to a conclusion.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Since you're in the Democratic Party right now, I can't help but ask you what you're doing to the Democratic Party. Representative Lee Jae-myung was actually proposed as there were voices calling for the revision of the Public Official Election Act, which was sentenced to prison. It is about removing the false information disclosure system and raising the standard for invalid election. How did you see it?

◇Expectation: When I say this, I think of the saying, "Don't fix the shoulder strap under the oat tree." Because, of course, the invalidity of this election was set in 1991 and the fine was more than 100,000 to 2,000,000 won, so it has been maintained for a very long time, so I think it is necessary to review whether it fits the current situation. However, even if it is necessary, the timing may be misleading, so I think we need to be more careful. In particular, representative Lee Jae-myung's judicial risk is a very important concern for the people right now, and it is an attempt to protect and save representative Lee Jae-myung. This is why we have to be very careful, so I think we need to listen to enough public opinion, fairness, equity, and timing control.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Lee Jae-myung is under the oppression of the one-pole system. You said it earlier. I want to tell you these parts, but should I call it Shy Scream? How many of the 170 or so Democrats do you think is this shay scream? Members who feel the same way as you do

◇ Expectations: They think first of all, the Democratic Party, second of all, the country and the people. They are also members of the National Assembly of a country. But among them, I think there are quite a few people who have been active in the past as screams and conscientious lawmakers in the middle of the country.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Since I ate a few people, there were about 27 people who were close to each other.

◇ Expectations: I can't say it carelessly, but wouldn't there be at least a few dozen people? However, I think that depending on what kind of activities these people will do in the future, it will have a great impact on the Democratic Party and Korea.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: When it comes to Shy Democratic Party, would there be more than 80 out of 170 people now?

◇Expectation: It's hard for me to be that clear. However,

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You have to zoom in to be on this show.

◇Expectations: Still, given the various aspects of the lawmakers I felt during the 21st National Assembly, at least a few dozen people can be at least 10 people, 20 people, or 30 people. But it's hard for me to say 50 people or 70 people, because the situation is not a situation where we can have different voices within the Democratic Party right now, so it's hard for me to jump to conclusions.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It's still hard to make a voice right away. You think Shybyeong will come back someday. I see. Of the five trials representing Lee Jae-myung, the first trial sentence for two trials has now been completed. Which of the next 5 trials do you see as the biggest crisis?

◇Expectation: First of all, the results of the second trial of the Public Official Election Act will be released in the first half of next year, so in reality, that will be one of the most immediate business risks, but I think former Deputy Governor Lee Hwa-young's ruling on remittance to North Korea is also not easy. In fact, there was a second trial sentence today, but it was postponed to next month, and now former Vice Governor Lee Hwa-young and Representative Lee Jae-myung are holding trials in the same court, right? That's right. In that sense, if former Lieutenant Governor Lee Hwa-young is sentenced to heavy punishment in the second trial next month, it is likely to affect CEO Lee. So, rather in the long run, I think this trial will be the most difficult time for Representative Lee Jae-myung for the remittance trial to North Korea.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: So the only issue remains is whether Deputy Governor Lee Hwa-young reported to Lee Jae-myung, the governor of Gyeonggi Province at the time, while transferring money to North Korea. The first trial is

◇ Expectations: We think so. We should not overreact to Lee Jae-myung's judicial risks and rulings, but the lawyers respond thoroughly to Lee Jae-myung, and the Democratic Party, as the Democratic Party of Korea and its party members, focus more on checking and judging President Yoon Suk Yeol and the Lee administration in this really difficult situation, and focus more on the economy, North Korea, security issues, and people's livelihoods. If a lot of other things are buried because of the hostile symbiotic relationship between President Lee Jae-myung of Yoon Suk Yeol, the people will suffer. That's a bit of a shame.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Among what you said, the Democratic Party is impeaching the prosecutor right now. We are also holding a prosecutor's hearing. And even this time. We're even on the way to the impeachment of the auditor. There are comments that all of this is for Lee Jae-myung's BTS. How do you see this prosecution impeached?

◇Expectation: I know. Now, there is a preference for this. In this administration, prosecutors need to reform the prosecution because there are too many things like monitoring investigations and opposition-suppressing indictments against Democratic Party lawmakers and Lee. It is also true that there are many voices like this. On the other hand, the prosecution seems to give some slack to the investigation and prosecution of President Yoon Suk Yeol and First Lady Kim Geun-wook, and President Yoon continues to reject special prosecutors such as Kim Gun-hee and Coporal Chae, which are of public interest, which is why the people are being subjected to Lee's investigation and prosecution. It's also true to have this idea. You'll have to admit that. Nevertheless, there is a need for prosecutor impeachment, but the Democratic Party should think more seriously about whether this is really justified by the Constitution and laws. If this is all about anger, there is room for the people to undermine its legitimacy.

◇Expectation: So last year, I impeached two prosecutors, and this was rejected by the Constitutional Court. So now, the Democratic Party of Korea should think seriously about whether it should be unilaterally impeached, even though it must check the prosecution's abuse of power. I think so.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: What do you think of the impeachment of the chairman of the Board of Audit and Inspection this time?

◇Expectations: The impeachment of the heads and prosecutors of state agencies such as state agencies continues, and of course, the Democratic Party has its own reasons for impeachment. However, it is also necessary to always consider whether it can win the consensus of the public and whether the constitution and laws mentioned earlier are valid. No, can we just do what we want because we have the power of the president or the leader of the opposition party? You have to always think about the people and think about the constitution and laws.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: You mean it's too much, right?

◇Expectation: I think it can be pointed out as excessive if it doesn't get public sympathy.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: This time, the Democratic Party continues to hold outdoor rallies. On top of that, don't wear blue to absorb the middle class anymore. Representative Lee Jae-myung is not even holding a microphone, so how about holding this outdoor rally?

◇ Expectations: I think now, because President Yoon Suk Yeol is doing so many different things and has problems, there can of course be a place where people's anger is expressed and that kind of expression goes to the indicator of disability. And the Democratic Party of Korea is playing a leading role in the opposition, so we are doing it together, but what I was a little disappointed about was that the Democratic Party of Korea is not absorbing all of the public anger and the enthusiasm of judgment against the Yoon administration. This is something that the Democratic Party and Chairman Lee should seriously consider. Why? Isn't it very different from the past when former President Park Geun Hye was impeached? It is a force that the people fully believe in the Democratic Party of Korea and Representative Lee and can replace the Yoon administration, so I will take the lead in judging and ending the Yoon administration and follow you. So far, I'm still hesitant. If so, I think our Democratic Party and representative Lee should really seriously think about it and come up with an alternative.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Now, lobbyist Kim In-seop has been sentenced to five years in prison by the Supreme Court regarding Kim In-seop's Baekhyun-dong. Among them, 7.7 billion won will now be sent to the effect that Jeong Jin-sang and then Seongnam Mayor Lee Jae-myung received, and in this regard, CEO Lee Jae-myung's risk will also increase, right? The same goes for the 4th stage of repurposing.

◇ Expectations: There are a lot of trials right now. But what's more interesting is that despite so many trials and the results of the election that the anchor just said, 40 to 50 percent of the people still have confidence in Lee. If you look at the results of the poll, isn't it roughly like that? So, at least primarily, I think President Yoon Suk Yeol is actually responsible for why that is happening. So why Yoon Suk Yeol's president can't do politics and make the country a mess, making it difficult for people to live, so the people's eyes are on that side at first glance.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Even so, you said we can't hold a disability rally now.

◇Expectation: No, but there is, but usually 70 to 80% of that feeling comes out negatively from President Yoon Suk Yeol, right? Those aspects clearly exist in the people, but then how to solve this problem? Isn't the people looking for an alternative? I think that the role of the Democratic Party and representative Lee is a little lacking in finding an alternative. So I don't think we can talk about judicial risks earlier. In the people's opinion, it should be sorted out as a matter of Lee Jae-myung's individual, but we need a political force that shows the life of these people a bit more properly about the country. I think like this

◆ Bae Seung-hee: If it's a personal problem for Chairman Lee Jae-myung, it's not oppression of the opposition. Why oppression of opposition parties when it's a personal criminal case?
◇ Expectation: But for now, isn't Chairman Lee Jae-myung the leader of the Democratic Party of Korea? So, as I said earlier, isn't it a public consensus that the Democratic Party of Korea should not take such a position of defending and defending Chairman Lee Jae-myung's personal judicial risks too much?

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Representative Lee Nak-yeon is abnormal no matter how much the Democratic Party looks at it. Do you want to maintain the Lee Jae-myung system even though you said you would have changed the party leader several times?

◇ Yang-dae: As I said before, it is not my duty as a member of the party to unconditionally step down at this point when I am the leader of the party elected by the members of the party and by some people's choice. However, strategically, the biggest problem now is that the country is normalized now and the people's lives are done properly. In the process, what role the Democratic Party should play and what role Chairman Lee Jae-myung should play, and if the role is limited and judged to be bad, the people will judge it and the party members will judge it.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: It could change.

◇Expect: Ask the public about that and ask public opinion

◆ Bae Seung-hee: Okay. A lot of difficult questions today

◇ Expectation: That's fine.

◆ Bae Seung-hee: So far, we've been with Yang Ki-dae, a former lawmaker of the Democratic Party of Korea. Thank you.

◇Expectation: Yes, thank you.