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[Anchor]
Let me point out the political and legal issues in the turbulent political situation in turn. First, lawyer Seo Jeong-bin is sitting next to me. Let's greet lawyer Seo Jeong-bin and point out the key issues. Please come in. You explained well a while ago, but first, President Yoon's public statement and apology were announced today. I heard the apology for a while and talked about what it was, and I said I would not avoid legal and political responsibility, but I will analyze what it means legally. Let's listen to it. President Yoon Suk Yeol made a brief statement today. He said he would take legal and political responsibility. legal and political responsibility The investigation has just begun. He said he was legally responsible. Then, can I interpret it as meaning that I will be investigated?
[Jeongbin Seo]
That's right. First of all, to distinguish between legal and political responsibilities, political responsibility is a matter of one's own future. I don't know what the outcome will be today, but if impeachment is voted on, I will take responsibility for such a judgment by the Constitutional Court afterward. It seems to be a matter related to this kind of future, and to take legal responsibility is eventually seen as a content that can be held accountable in some cases for those parts that are being investigated. In particular, the part that can be considered to be the beginning or beginning of the investigation into the president must be about whether the declaration of martial law constitutes a rebellion or not. In the end, according to this investigation, whether the president is investigated or is responsible for the results, I will do all the responsibilities for this, which can be interpreted as this.
[Anchor]
I'll point it out one by one. The chief financial officer of the Labor Day is here to explain some of the political situations. Please come in. Please come in. I heard there's a lot of traffic right now.
[Work day]
is blocked. It's hard to get on the subway right now and there's a lot of traffic.
[Anchor]
The political situation is also changing rapidly. Earlier, we talked about the presidential statement. How did you see the presidential statement? Do you think there were enough apples?
[Work day]
I will first conclude that it is an insufficient apology. Perhaps there should be a clear reference to what we did wrong when we apologized many times.
I'll do it wrong like this and not do it like this next time. I think you're saying that martial law was inevitable when it was supposed to be like this. I think he said that he had no choice as the chief executive, and apologizing and apologizing was an apology for the inconvenience and anxiety of the people. So, I was a little nervous before I started because I couldn't do it if the president apologized for a statement. People say this all the time. I thought it would be different this time, but what I felt after the conversation was such inadequacy. Why did I have to do this more honestly? Please explain the process a little more and the people felt that I had no choice. I wish I could have felt it even a little bit. That's the regret.
[Anchor]
There was also a mention that there would never be anything like a second martial law.
[Work day]
There is a lot of talk in the market right now, and what the Democratic Party claims is that there will be a second martial law right now, so many citizens are gathering in front of the National Assembly, and lawmakers and aides are not leaving the National Assembly, right? Whether it's a rumor or not, it's true that there are such concerns in the market, and when Democratic Party members such as Kim Min-seok talk about martial law for a few months, I feel the same way.Would such a thing ever happen in the world right now? He said that if the National Assembly is in the majority, it should be lifted immediately if the National Assembly demands it to be lifted. But now that this has happened, it's absurd to talk about the second martial law. It's a situation that's hard to dismiss like this. So I think you definitely mentioned him.
[Anchor]
Today, President Yoon apologized to the public and said he would not avoid legal and political responsibility. Earlier, the legal responsibility issue is also legally under investigation. We are now investigating the accusation case for rebellion. You can ask lawyer Seo Jeong-bin about that, and I will not avoid the issue of political responsibility. And he said he would entrust the political stability plan to the party in the future, including the term of office. How do you interpret this? There is even a story of a second-line retreat.
[Work day]
Since people are talking about that, CEO Han Dong-hoon also said that. If you talked about it in more detail, including the issue of shortening the term of office, I wonder if the public opinion calling for impeachment and such heat have eased a little, but it's a little disappointing to say that you'll just leave everything, including the term, to the party without talking at all. If you think about it, basically, what we can say is that you may voluntarily step down, and some people are talking about a constitutional amendment to shorten your term of office. There can be things like that, and the other thing is impeachment, but you can't say, "Impeach me," right? Perhaps that's why I think I have to step down as a second term and form a national cabinet, including the constitutional amendment of the shortening of the term as discussed at the National Power Association a few days ago.
[Anchor]
What exactly does a national cabinet mean?
[Work day]
I can't say exactly what it is, but in the past, when Roh Tae-woo and such times, the prime minister and these people are receiving their present, and they have no relationship with the ruling party, or they can be recommended by the opposition party, and they set up such a cabinet together, so I won't be involved in daily state administration. I'll have the prime minister
run all the state affairs. I think the people will be convinced if they say they will take over and discuss the issue of constitutional amendment, including shortening the term in the meantime.
[Anchor]
In the future, our party and the government will take responsibility for state administration together. If this retreats to the second term, the state administration is the party and the government, and isn't the head of the government now the president? How can I interpret this?
[Work day]
Well, I think it's a little hard to interpret it that way, saying that I'm going to finish my term in the future, that I'm going to work hard on state administration.
[Anchor]
Before that, he said he would appoint everyone to the party, including the term of office.
[Work day]
So, for example, the party is talking about a constitutional amendment to shorten the term of office, so I don't know what will happen.In any case, if the constitutional amendment is made to shorten the term of office, it seems to be this kind of reaction that we will discuss it together. Before the first statement, some even worried that they would complete the term given by the people as president until the end. However, if you look at it like that, I don't know what the term of office will be like in the future, but I think it means that I will interpret it in a more good way, saying that I will do it without neglect until then.
[Anchor]
If the constitutional amendment is made to shorten the term of office, will the president propose it himself?
[Jeongbin Seo]
In the case of a constitutional amendment to shorten the term of office, in the end, if such contents of the National Assembly are agreed upon, it must be dealt with through a resolution of the National Assembly. So if this eventually ends up having to amend the Constitution. Because the Constitution stipulates such a term of office of the president, there is a part that needs to be changed, so a resolution of the National Assembly is required, and the quorum of the National Assembly's resolution requires the consent of more than two-thirds of the members in the office, or more than 200 people. Of course, if you want to get this far, will you actually shorten the term of office, through constitutional amendment. Or, then, how long will it be and how long will it be for the rest of the year? It is still unclear whether it will actually continue because this is a matter to be discussed, but if it becomes an agenda and is decided, there will be procedures that must be submitted not only to the National Assembly's decision but also to a referendum.
[Anchor]
Regarding the term of office, the Constitution says that the president's term is five years, and he cannot serve a second term. The president said in today's statement that he would appoint all of them to the party, including the term of office, but the opposition party's position is to step down immediately. Immediately step down, step down, and impeach again. Can the opposition agree to this plan?
[Work day]
Is it a matter of constitutional amendment to shorten the term of office? I think it will be difficult to agree. However, so far, the opposition parties should revise the constitution by shortening the term of office and shorten the term of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. When I said three years is a long time, people said that. That also came out as a room. And CEO Lee Jae-myung also responded positively to him, probably not bad. But I think this issue is actually a much better direction than impeaching, but impeachment is simply a constitutional suspension and we, of course, have a huge impact. Isn't this the third time that the president is impeached? So this political situation, which is the daily routine of impeachment, is by no means desirable.
[Anchor]
There are many opinions and opinions coming out right now. First of all, the screen on the right and the screen that viewers are watching is the plenary session of the National Assembly. I'm going to have a meeting at 5 p.m., so I haven't seen any lawmakers yet. I don't see Chairman Woo Won-sik. And both the ruling and opposition parties are now holding a general meeting of lawmakers. On the left, reporters are waiting in front of the general meeting of the People's Power lawmakers. As soon as the results of the general meeting come out, it is expected to announce the results of the general meeting and enter the plenary session. Now, representative Han Dong-hoon has made a short statement after today's presidential statement. Let's hear what kind of position CEO Han Dong-hoon expressed and see what CEO Han Dong-hoon is thinking. Representative Han Dong-hoon first talked about the martial law incident with the intention of following the party's theory, but the next day, he heard about the arrest of politicians, including himself, and expressed his position that the president needs to be suspended. Later, there was talk of favoring the impeachment of the president, but this morning's remarks changed again. Let's listen to it. Representative
has been changing his position in the last few days. Looking at the position that came out after today's presidential statement, he once again stated that the early resignation of the president is inevitable. Since the party and the government said they would take responsibility for running the political situation, they said they would discuss it closely with the prime minister in the future. How should I interpret CEO Han Dong-hoon's remarks?
[Work day]
It's changed as you said several times. He said he would block it, said he was against the impeachment bill, but he also talked about suspension of duty and early retirement. But if you look closely at it, you've completely avoided the word impeachment. I avoided it on purpose. You don't say impeachment, do you?
[Anchor]
If you ask me if it's impeachment, have I ever said impeachment? We're talking like this again.
[Work day]
That's what it's like to talk about. I didn't say impeachment. That means that he avoided it on purpose, but if he mentioned impeachment, it would sound like he is in favor of impeachment today. However, as I said earlier, there are many ways to leave early. The situation has changed, so you can voluntarily step down, and there are things like that that you can revise the constitution as mentioned earlier. Of course, there's impeachment.Isn't impeachment a little different concept from early resignation and suspension of duty?
Since this is a situation where it is a forced suspension, Representative Han Dong-hoon is probably saying that he will find the best way to the Republic of Korea and the people, and some of the opposition parties are thinking about the constitutional amendment to shorten the term of office.
[Anchor]
You heard representative Han Dong-hoon's remarks that have changed since President Yoon Suk Yeol's statement this morning. You are looking at the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. I'm okay with the plenary session at 5 p.m. We have about 50 minutes left. It is on the second floor of the National Assembly headquarters, where the General Assembly of the People's Power is being held. It is the second conference hall, just across from the main assembly hall of the National Assembly, where the Democratic Congress is being held. The current parliamentary assembly is being held here, and I would like to hear the results of the Democratic Party's parliamentary assembly again. So let's connect the presidential office here. The presidential office's position and President Yoon's position have also changed a little yesterday and today.
First of all, I heard about today's presentation, and he said he would not avoid legal or political responsibility. They said there would be no second martial law. He also said he would appoint the Jungkook Management Plan Party, including the term of office. Then let's connect the presidential office.
[Anchor]
It's 4:31 p.m. right now. In the next 29 minutes, the voting schedule for the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol will begin. I'll let you know as soon as the site is connected. So let's talk a little bit more here. In the case of President Yoon Suk Yeol, he has been accused of a rebellion case. That's why the police, the prosecution, and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit are all investigating the accusation case. How is it different?
[Jeongbin Seo]
In fact, the investigation may be conducted in duplicate like this. Of course, in the case of the prosecution, the right to investigate is currently limited, so in the case of such rebellion, in principle, it is not such a category to open an investigation. However, in the case of the prosecution, cases of abuse of authority of public officials can be handled, and cases that are directly related to this case can be investigated and investigated regardless of the subject. Therefore, there have been talks about whether the prosecution can investigate the crime of rebellion related to the case before reviewing the crime of rebellion on the internal network, and on the other hand, there have been talks about whether it is possible to investigate the crime of rebellion related to it. And in the end, the investigation is actually going on like this.
Therefore, in the end, in the face-to-face, the investigation was started not only on abuse of authority but also on rebellion, and in fact, the police, prosecutors, or the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit are the same, so there is no difference in content. In the end, in the case of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, there will be such a difference because it will be a limited situation due to any investigative personnel, but in terms of content, the actual investigation and the targets are almost the same. In the case of duplicate investigations, you can consult at first and cooperate a little bit with the investigation content to proceed with the investigation by dividing the field, or you can request that one side transfers the case in the middle. For example, in the case of the prosecution, you may ask the police to hand over the investigation of overlapping cases. I'm thinking that we'll actually have a discussion before going like that.
[Anchor]
Then at this time, we're delivering the facial expressions of the plenary session. I didn't care yet.Ma is minded at 5 p.m. And looking at the order, does the vote start with the Special Counsel Kim Act? That's right. Today, the impeachment bill of President Yoon and the Special Prosecutor's Act of Kim will be handled. In the case of President Yoon's impeachment, 191 independent lawmakers and the 6th party proposed at the dawn of the 5th. If two-thirds of the current lawmakers, or 200 out of 300, approve today, it will be passed. In the case of the First Lady Kim's Special Prosecutor Act, since it is a re-decision that has been returned with a veto, 150 members, must attend, and more than two-thirds of the lawmakers present must approve it. So, depending on how many people attend, the votes required for approval are different.
[Anchor]
Before voting on the impeachment motion, the first lady Kim's independent counsel law will be voted on, right?
[Working day]
Since the Special Prosecutor's Act of Mrs. Kim is re-decided, a majority of the registered members and two-thirds of the attendance can approve it. So if the power of the people does not go into the plenary session, the opposition party alone votes, so if all the people present agree, it will be passed.
[Anchor]
Mrs. Kim originally had a special prosecution on the 10th, but she pulled it.
[Work day]
That's the Democratic Party's strategy. If we vote together and do a special prosecution law, we just don't have to go into the people's power polling place. So, they used a strategy to make it inevitable to come in together. So, there is a saying that the First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act will be re-decided, voted down, and then the impeachment bill will be removed. No matter how much we decide against the party, we don't know who will do it because it's a secret ballot. So there's a saying that you're leaving to be safe. So, personally, I think the power of the people should also vote proudly. What is the most important duty of a Member of Parliament?
Isn't it the right to vote for deliberation? This is also something that I should do if I proudly vote and oppose it in good conscience, and even if some of the leave votes come out, shouldn't I leave it to each individual? I can say that, but from the perspective of the leadership of the People's Power, they may choose to re-vote the Special Prosecutor Act and leave because of something a little nervous.
[Anchor]
Attention is focusing on what kind of decisions the people's power will make. The left screen shows the front of the conference hall on the second floor of the National Assembly, where the National Assembly of the People's Power is being held. The screen on the right shows the screen of the plenary session at this time. Earlier, we briefly connected the rally site. I connected the Yeouido rally site, but the broadcast condition was uneven, so I couldn't connect the relay car. If the on-site screen is possible, please show it to me anytime. Can I see it? I can see it. I can see the scene right in front of the National Assembly. We're showing you the front of the Seoul National Assembly. There are quite a lot of people gathered. When the plenary session is held at 5 p.m. in a little while, it seems that people are gathering in accordance with the vote on the impeachment of President Yoon. As the voting time approaches, the size of the assembly is getting bigger and bigger.
The organizers estimate that 1 million people and the police estimate that tens of thousands of people are gathering in front of the National Assembly building in Yeouido to hold a large-scale rally. Since many citizens are gathered at the rally, they are passing through the National Assembly Station on Subway Line 9. I talked to lawyer Seo Jeong-bin earlier. Attorney Kim Sung-hoon is next to me now. You came a little late because of the heavy traffic today, but I heard you took Line 9?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. The traffic was so bad that I was on Line 9, but there were so many citizens heading to Yeouido on Line 9, so it was very crowded.
[Anchor]
I even delivered the expression in front of the National Assembly building. A vote on the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol will be held at 5 p.m. soon. As I told you now, you saw a large-scale civic group rally in front of the Capitol. I'm showing you the general meeting of the People's Power on the screen at this time. And in the breaking news that just came in, there is breaking news that the ruling party has confirmed the party's rejection of both the president's impeachment bill and the Kim Special Counsel Act. Even before the ruling party, it had expressed its rejection party, but as the voting time approached, it seems that it has been confirmed. It seems that the president's impeachment bill and the re-decision of the Kim Special Counsel Act were also confirmed by the rejection party.
Today, these two votes will take place in the plenary session at 5 o'clock. We will deliver related breaking news as soon as it comes in. Earlier, we talked about the impeachment motion. There are two possibilities now: the vote on the impeachment motion, the possibility that it will be passed, and the possibility that it will be voted down. If it passes, if it passes, the Constitutional Court will now judge it. But there are six constitutional judges in the Constitutional Court right now. There seems to be a legal controversy.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. First of all, the Constitutional Court is now hearing the impeachment trial. There are six people in quorum right now. Therefore, six quorum members can proceed with the hearing, but impeachment is only cited if all judges approve if the current composition is maintained. However, there are some variables, but if the recommendations and appointments to the Constitutional Court, which is currently vacant, are made through acting power, then the situation could be a little different.
[Anchor]
On the screen, we are showing you the view of Gwanghwamun in Seoul at this time. Large-scale rallies are also taking place in Yeouido. At this time, large-scale rallies are also taking place in Gwanghwamun. In a little while, at 5 o'clock, President Yoon will vote on the impeachment bill at the plenary session of the National Assembly, so we are showing a screen of such a large-scale rally at this time. Labor and civil society organizations are holding a national candlelight vigil in front of the National Assembly to step down from the Yoon Suk Yeol for rebellion. The screen is uneven right now. I showed you the appearance of Gwanghwamun.
The vote on the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol is now 5 o'clock. We have about 17 minutes left. There are many possibilities today. There is a possibility that the vote will pass, and it will be rejected again. The ruling party has just confirmed it as a rejection party. Of course, even if it is confirmed by the rejection party theory, it is possible to vote for departure as it is conducted as an anonymous secret ballot. Also, if there is no vote to leave and it is rejected, the Democratic Party plans to pursue it again immediately. What do you expect?
[Work day]
Literally, the Democratic Party will do it until it works. However, with the first impeachment motion proposed today, there are probably a lot of people who are very burdensome to pass it right away from the ruling party's point of view, no matter what the future is. Not everyone will be in the same position, and even if it is decided by party theory, the result cannot be guaranteed because it is a secret ballot. However, many people are watching the results of the impeachment in 2016, saying that from the party's point of view, the so-called ruling party and the so-called Conservative Party could be in a so-called destructive situation, and furthermore, the conservative camp could be in such a situation. If that happens, wouldn't an early presidential election be held if the impeachment is cited in the Constitutional Court without any other special variables? If there is no change in the current situation, we have no choice but to predict that representative Lee Jae-myung will become president. That's why there must be a lot of people who think that's also very burdensome.
Even if I vote in the first impeachment vote right now, I think there are not many people who can readily approve it, so I predict the rejection. However, as I said earlier, there is a lot of possibility that the leadership will make the choice not to vote just in case anything happens.
[Anchor]
Do you expect both President Yoon's impeachment and the Kim Special Counsel Act to be rejected?
[Work day]
Well, that's what I'm expecting at the moment.Ma, but I'm not sure about the Special Prosecutor Kim's Act. Isn't the Special Prosecutor Kim's Act the third re-decision? That's why many ruling party lawmakers should at least receive a special prosecutor for Kim. If you keep voting down like this without any alternative, veto it, and then reject it again, wouldn't there be people who ask the people, "What is your alternative?" Because of this, Kim should be independent counsel. Instead, he said, "Let's come up with an alternative to appoint a special prosecutor as a really neutral person through negotiations with the opposition party," but there has been no such talk until now. So, if I reject it again this time, I think it is desirable not to go only with the rejection, but to suggest an alternative to it from the power of the people.
[Anchor]
You're looking at the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. In a little while, there will be a re-decision on the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol and the Special Prosecutor's Act on Kim in the plenary session of the National Assembly. It will be passed only when 200 out of 2,300 members of the registered council agree. Therefore, if 108 members of the People's Power Party miss the plenary session or leave the impeachment bill in the middle, there is a possibility that the number of votes may not be checked. Currently, we are showing the appearance of the National Assembly and Gwanghwamun on the left and right sides of the screen at this time. The left side is the expression in front of the National Assembly. On the right is the expression of Gwanghwamun. You're watching the scene of the rally. You can see a lot of Taegeukgi at the Gwanghwamun rally on the right. It appears to be a rally of conservative groups.
[Anchor]
It shows the anti-impeachment rally at the same time. A lot of people are here now. There are some votes left for the vote to proceed, but it is 4:47 now with about 13 minutes left before the plenary session begins. Earlier, we also broadcast the Yeouido rally live at this time. You're also watching the Gwanghwamun rally scene. Currently, rallies for impeachment are taking place in Yeouido, including Gwanghwamun and the National Assembly. The plenary session of the National Assembly will be held at 5 p.m. soon. It is said that Mrs. Kim's independent counsel law will be decided first. In the case of the First Lady Kim's Special Prosecutor Act, the president's veto was exercised once. If passed, the bill will be promulgated immediately. By the way, is there a reason why the First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act was proposed first?
[Work day]
If the impeachment bill is voted on first, the ruling party does not have to come in. If it doesn't come in, it's automatically rejected and the vote is not established. If you do it later, you can come in then. If we re-decide on the Special Prosecutor's Office Act first, we can't help but come in, so we can come in and leave our seats again, but isn't that just a loss of shape? Even if the ruling party is absent, I think the opposition party strategically aimed at showing that.
[Anchor]
If all 300 members of Congress attend, the impeachment bill will be passed if more than 200 people approve. I'm continuing to deliver it to you.Ma depends on the 108 members of the People's Power, what decisions you make. That's right. Therefore, if all 108 members of the People's Power choose a strategy of not attending the plenary session or opting out only during the impeachment vote, there is a possibility that the number of votes will not be checked. In the case of the First Lady Kim's Special Prosecutor Act, it is a law that has returned to veto power, so it is approved only when more than two-thirds of the members present agree to the attendance of more than 150 members. So, depending on how many people attend, the votes required for approval are different. I'm telling you that the conditions for the approval of the two bills are different.
This morning, President Yoon Suk Yeol issued a public apology. He said he would not avoid legal and political responsibility, and that there would be no second martial law, and that he would appoint the party to manage the political situation, including the term of office. Today, five young lawmakers, including Kim Jae-sup and Kim Sang-wook, have issued statements, including an apology to the public and a statement that they will appoint them to the party on how to manage the political situation, including the term of office. He has expressed his position that he will oppose the impeachment bill only when the president apologizes and shortens his term of office. In a way, can I say that I accepted it?
[Work day]
Well, from that point of view, not only the young people, but the provincial governor's council, which belongs to the People's Power, officially expressed that position a few days ago. And there were many people who continued to express that position, including civil society organizations and opposition parties. What was lacking or disappointing in President Yoon Suk Yeol's statement today was that he would express his opinion on the future roadmap and discuss it with the ruling party. If he had said that he would discuss the impeachment bill with the ruling party, it would be much better for the ruling party and other people to think that even if he does not impeach him this time, his term will be shortened and the transfer of power will be carried out smoothly.
In any case, many such stories are being publicized in the ruling party, so if the impeachment bill is rejected, the way to resolve the confusion is to quickly reveal the roadmap and schedule for the shortening of the term and such mentioned earlier to the public.
[Anchor]
Rep. Cho Kyung-tae, who expressed his opinion in favor of impeachment, came out with a change of stance, but did representative Han Dong-hoon's opinion reflect?
[Workday]
You could say that, and some ruling parties said that. In order to oppose the impeachment bill, President Yoon said that he needs to make a minimum apology or express his position, but from our personal point of view and from a neutral point of view, we can say that the apology statement was very insufficient, but from the point of view of the ruling party members, it was the least justification. That's why you apologized. And didn't you leave the future schedule to the ruling party? It was the least justification for saying, "I will oppose this impeachment." I don't think they felt it was enough for themselves. However, since he made a statement and apologized, let's accept it and vote down this impeachment bill, I think this was the justification.
[Anchor]
I will ask lawyer Kim Sung-hoon about various legal issues. First of all, in order to shorten the term, President Yoon Suk Yeol said he would leave all the matters of term to the ruling party. In order to shorten the term of office, there will have to be a constitutional amendment. Also, impeachment could shorten the term of office. Is the only way to shorten the term of office other than impeachment the only way is to amend the constitution?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
It's a political act, but it's white. In fact, shortening the term of office through constitutional amendment after constitutional amendment means that shortening the term of office through constitutional amendment means not shortening the term. In practice, in the case of voluntarily stepping down from his position in the state of making a constitutional amendment to change the current form of the presidential system in a certain way at a specific time. If so, it can be seen as a practical reduction in term.
However, if not, I think there are many possibilities for now because no specific details have been presented on how to shorten the term at all, whether it is simply to shorten his term, or to make a change in the president's term itself under the constitution.
[Anchor]
So, for example, if a constitutional amendment is made to a four-year two-term system, did you say that there is a way to resign as soon as the constitutional amendment to the two-term system is completed?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
To be precise, a constitutional amendment does not mean that the current president's term will be shortened or that something is concluded. In that regard, apart from how to make a new presidential term, I think it is difficult to exist in reality other than impeachment by making a decision on one's own.
[Anchor]
Then, there are methods such as resignation, constitutional amendment, and impeachment, so how will the next presidential election be held differently depending on each method?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
Basically, in the case of impeachment, as we've just seen, the office is suspended according to impeachment. And if the Constitutional Court is finally dismissed according to the conclusion of the impeachment trial, then the new presidential election schedules will proceed accordingly. This is actually unfortunate for us, but we've experienced it once in the past. Next, if you go down, it can be called Yugo. Since there is no presidential office, it can be seen that it is necessary to plan and prepare the presidential election schedule accordingly. However, if the term of office is changed through constitutional amendment, I think it will be very different depending on the content and method of constitutional amendment. Above all, the process of making a constitutional amendment itself can take quite a long time because it is absolutely not necessary to make decisions in the political world.
[Anchor]
What do you think Professor Noh Dong-il?
[Work day]
Attorney Kim said earlier that if a constitutional amendment is made to shorten the term, it will not actually shorten the term, but that is a bit objectionable. Because there has been no time in the administration that we have not talked about constitutional amendment. However, there are a lot of amendments to the constitution. So it's easy to choose from in no time. There are too many elections because what is usually said is changing to a four-year two-term system and it is different from the presidential election, general election, and general election in Korea. There will be another by-election in the middle, so let's hold the presidential election with the branch line. Let's make it a four-year term. There is usually a consensus on these things, as is civic groups. Ando also has a lot of things that have been actually made in the National Assembly.
That's why I'm unhappy with this situation, but I think that's what can be a happy ending. South Korea, where presidential impeachment has become commonplace, is this okay? Isn't it already the third time? The opposition party has been talking a lot about preventing things that end unfortunately in such an extraordinary situation. You can nail the supplementary provisions such as when the term of office will be held or when the next presidential election will be held. Even if it's next year, we have to go through a referendum right away, but that's something that can be quickly decided. So the presidential election is held on August 25, and that's when it starts.
[Anchor]
Wait a minute. The Democratic Party is explaining the results of the general election. Let's listen to it.
[Interview]
Next, the impeachment motion of the Yoon Suk Yeol will proceed. In the re-decision of the special prosecutor Kim Gun-hee, there will be no pros and cons. Regarding impeachment, I think it was said that there was no proceeding statement, but only explanation of the proposal. As you know, the vote will be completed by 12:30 today because we will have anonymous and handwritten votes and we have to complete the vote within 72 hours.
At the general meeting of lawmakers today, they said they decided to reject the Kim Gun-hee Special Counsel Act and the impeachment bill of the Yoon Suk Yeol, but they gathered opinions from various lawmakers on how to respond on the spot. The situation on the ground is so fluid that we will proceed according to the guidelines of our floor leadership on the floor. Today, the People's Power decided to reject both the Kim Gun-hee Special Counsel Act and the Yoon Suk Yeol's impeachment. As a result, the power of the people has become an unconstitutional party and a party that sympathizes with civil war, and that's how we judge it. Representative Han Dong-hoon also representative of People's Power Han Dong-hoon
[Anchor]
Yoon Jong-gun's floor spokesman explained. He said that he discussed measures for the people's power to decide on the rejection position through the party's theory. He also strongly criticized that the power of the people set by the rejection party theory is an unconstitutional party.
[Anchor]
It's 4:59 now. Originally scheduled, the plenary session will begin at 5 p.m. soon. The plenary session begins today when Chairman Woo Won-sik declares his mind a little later. First, there will be a report from the director of the doctor's office. Today, the Democratic Party of Korea also reported the impeachment of Lee Sang-min, the Minister of Public Administration and Security. He proposed the second impeachment. Now, it is expected that Kim Gun-hee will propose a vote on the re-examination of the Special Prosecutor's Act. You're looking at the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time.
I don't think I can see the ruling party lawmakers yet. It shows the Democratic Party members sitting down first. You're watching a Democratic Party member sit down. I haven't declared that I don't care yet.
Following the declaration of interest, there is a possibility that there will be a statement of proceedings before the vote begins after the re-decision of the Special Prosecutor Kim Gun-hee Act is proposed. Do you think there will be a debate about the pros and cons? I see National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik now. the seventeenth plenary session After a few moments with the declaration of interest, the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol. In addition, the re-decision of the Special Prosecutor's Act on Mrs. Kim is expected to take place soon. Lawmakers are sitting down one after another. The scheduled start time of the plenary session is now 5 o'clock. The ruling party of the Democratic Party is an unconstitutional party. I just made a statement that I was judged to be a party of sympathy. I see National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik now.
I think I'll make a declaration in a little while. You are looking at the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. It has not yet been confirmed whether all lawmakers are seated. He's holding a picket right now. I'm holding a hand sign. I also see a ruling party lawmaker now. I also see Rep. Na Kyung-won. We are hearing the loud voices of the ruling and opposition party members. I see a picket protest by progressive lawmakers now. National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik will declare his mind shortly. It's about 5:02 now. People's Power lawmakers and Democrats. I've been holding a gun since this morning. The power of the people decided to reject it through party theory. You just heard the Democratic Party's criticism of
. Let's listen to it. This is the remarks of National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
Since I said this, it will be delivered.
[Anchor]
People's Power appeared to protest against the opposition lawmakers' picketing a while ago, and it seems to be a statement related to that. I can hear the loud voices of the ruling and opposition parties. National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik seems to be mediating. There will be a declaration of concern from the Speaker of the National Assembly shortly.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
I told you last time, too.How does Ma maintain the order of the plenary session? It's a measure of democracy in the country. So, Korea is a democracy that is really proud of compared to any other country. And didn't we see the resilience of democracy here, too? So let's not talk too much and let's talk and discuss enough with each other and make decisions one by one. Please arrange your seats. I'll mind the 17th plenary session because I've been a member. I'll have a report from the director of the doctor's office.
[Interview]
Let me tell you the report. On December 6, 169 people, including Park Chan-dae, announced that it would be a request for the 419th National Assembly Extraordinary Meeting and that it would be held from December 11. On December 7, 170 people, including Representative Kim Min-seok, proposed the impeachment of Lee Sang-min, the Minister of Public Administration and Security. Representative Lee In-young proposed 71 bills, including a special bill on the attribution of pro-Japanese anti-national actors to the state, and a partial revision of the Act on the Promotion of Employment of Persons with Disabilities and Direct Rehabilitation, proposed by Representative Jeong Hee-yong. Other details will be posted in the minutes. This is the end of the report.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
Let me tell you what I said before the agenda was put forward. Today's plenary session will deal with two agendas. The re-deliberation of the bill on the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate the stock price manipulation case of Yoon Suk Yeol's spouse, Kim Gun-hee, and the impeachment of the presidential Yoon Suk Yeol. Armed martial law forces entered the National Assembly on the night of the 3rd. The National Assembly resolved to lift martial law in an orderly manner in accordance with constitutional procedures and lifted the emergency martial law.
And today, as I came into the plenary session, I read again the oath of the Members of Parliament that I took here on September 2nd, together with the Members of Parliament. I would like to share that with Members. I solemnly swear before the people that I will abide by the Constitution, strive for the promotion of freedom and welfare of the people, peaceful unification of my country, put the interests of the state first, and faithfully perform the duties of the National Assembly in accordance with my conscience. the first section of the agenda We propose a reconsideration of the bill on the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate the fact of the stock price manipulation case of Yoon Suk Yeol's spouse, Kim Gun-hee.
This agenda is to review the reconsideration of the bill, which the National Assembly voted on November 14 and transferred to the government, as the president requested reconsideration in accordance with Article 53 (2) of the Constitution on November 26. On behalf of the Prime Minister who was absent today, the Minister of Justice will explain the reasons for the request for reconsideration.
[Park Sungjae / Minister of Justice]
Honourable Speaker of the National Assembly, Mr. Woo Won-sik, and Members. Briefly explain the government's position on the bill on the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate the stock price manipulation case of Kim Gun-hee, the spouse of President Kim Yoon Suk Yeol, which the president demanded on November 26, 2024.
[Won-sik/Speaker of the National Assembly]
Please stop it for a moment. Congressman Yong Hye-in, do you broadcast on YouTube? It's supposed to be done only if you get permission in advance, so please stop it. Keep going on.
[Park Sungjae / Minister of Justice]
I'd like to briefly explain the government's position. This bill has so far lacked measures to correct the reasons for unconstitutionality in terms of what the government has pointed out as reasons for unconstitutionality. First of all, I would like to say that a third-party recommendation by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, which is known to have been introduced to recover the violation of the principle of separation of powers in the existing special prosecution bill, may still violate the principle of separation of powers. Since the stock price manipulation case is currently under trial at the Supreme Court, the head of the Supreme Court, who is in charge of the trial of related cases, recommending candidates for special prosecutors related to the investigation of related cases may be directly contrary to the principle of separation of powers.
In particular, the opposition party can exercise its right to veto indefinitely until the opposition party's desired candidate is recommended if the candidate recommended by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is inappropriate, which is no different from giving the opposition party the right to recommend the special counsel candidate only. In addition, the bill is likely to violate the principle of supplementality and exceptionalism, which is the essence of the special prosecutor system pointed out when demanding a re-decision, as well as problems that undermine fairness, which is the basic principle of our judicial system, and violate the human rights of the people and waste precious taxpayers' money. Members, I earnestly ask that you consider these points deeply and look again at the problems of this bill.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
Members, be quiet. Members. Be quiet. Please listen to my story.
[Park Sungjae / Minister of Justice]
Thank you.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
Then, I will vote on this issue in an anonymous manner in accordance with Article 112 (5) of the National Assembly Act. Please have a seat. Please have a seat. And I would like to inform you that this agenda is resolved with the approval of a majority of the members present and more than two-thirds of the members present in accordance with Article 53 (4) of the Constitution. Then, I will nominate a member of the commutation committee in accordance with Article 114 (2) of the National Assembly Act. Rep.
Rep. Kim Dong-ha, Rep. Kim Yong-man, Rep. Mo Kyung-jong, Rep. Baek Seung-ah, Rep. Seo Ji-young, Rep. Yoo Yong-won, Rep. Lee Jong-ok, and Rep. Joo Jin-woo. The eight above will work hard. Member for California for California, please come to the seat of California. I will start voting right after I have an explanation from the Director of Physicians on how to vote.
[Interview]
Let me explain how to vote. After receiving the nameplate and ballot, those who favor the bill can write in Korean or Chinese characters, and those who oppose the bill can write their wealth in the blank of the ballot. Please note that if you mark any characters or symbols other than A or Boo, they will be invalidated, and if you do not mark any on your ballot, they will be treated as abstentions. That's the end of the explanation and we'll start voting.
[Anchor]
The independent counsel law has begun to be voted again. There was an explanation from the chairman of the National Assembly. The resolution requirement is to be passed immediately if two-thirds of the lawmakers present approve it. It is approved only when more than two-thirds of the lawmakers present approve the attendance of more than 150 members, which is the majority of the registered members, but the number of people present has not yet been confirmed. Depending on how many people attend, the votes required for approval are different. Because it's a re-decision by coming back to the veto. First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act, the third re-decision is underway. This vote is anonymous. Because it's a handwritten vote, you're going to vote in line like that at the voting booth. A, Boo. Go for it, go for it, and the opposite is done by handwriting. Since it's an anonymous vote, you're watching them stand in line and vote one by one. When voting
, put the plaque in the plaque and the ballot in the ballot box and proceed. In order to check how many lawmakers participated in the vote and whether they voted one by one, the vote is carried out by putting the plaque on the plaque box. Mrs. Kim's special prosecutor's law is being voted on again. When the results come out, we will deliver them live, but let's look at the Special Prosecutor Kim's Act first. Regarding the Kim Special Prosecutor Act, this is the third special prosecutor law proposed by Kim. It is said that this is a special law that is somewhat strengthened compared to the first, second, and third.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. In a situation where proposals were continuously made and re-discussed after the veto, the contents were changed little by little. In addition, there is a little more information about the suspicions and contents related to the situation. So, it led to the current legislation. As you said earlier, there is a concept of enrollment and attendance. If two-thirds of the 300 members of the National Assembly are registered, 200 out of 300 members can pass two-thirds of the attendance if they vote again when requested to reconsider the special prosecution law.
[Anchor]
Earlier, Justice Minister Park Sung-jae explained the reason for the request for reconsideration, and there was a lack of corrective measures for unconstitutional reasons. I explained that it violated the principle of separation of power. At the same time, he explained that it violated the principle of separation of powers because the related trial of the stock price manipulation case is underway, so please solve it in detail.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
Basically, after the prosecution has been filed, the judicial evaluation of the case is being conducted through a trial by the judiciary, and it was pointed out that there is a problem with the investigation through a separate special prosecutor in relation to the situation in which the trial is already underway. However, rather than the fundamental background and purpose of the proposed special prosecution law affecting the trial itself, it is now the opinion of the proposition that there are parts that conduct additional special prosecution investigations on areas that are not revealed in the trial itself or have not been properly prosecuted and investigated.
[Anchor]
However, the investigation has not been carried out properly in the opposition party. Isn't it an argument that an independent counsel is needed to conduct a more objective investigation into the investigation now?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. In the end, there is room for conflicts of interest, so if there are parts of the investigation process itself that cannot be investigated properly, it is a basic principle that an independent investigation body needs to investigate this part. The core purpose of this is not that it is currently being reviewed judicially, but rather that the parts that have not been reviewed judicially or have not been investigated properly are the main targets of the investigation.
[Anchor]
Was it also included in the recent suspicion of involvement in the nomination of Myung Tae-kyun?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
Yes, it can be said that those contents are included this time. It can be said that the parts that have been added and confirmed are the requests for additional investigations into the parts where the suspicion is added.
[Anchor]
The Democratic Party of Korea has already announced its plan to reissue the Kim Special Prosecutor Act if it is rejected this time. There seems to be a commotion in the National Assembly right now. There seems to have been a verbal dispute between ruling and opposition lawmakers during the voting process for the plenary session. There's a lot of verbal bickering and shouting. Currently, we are showing the situation of the National Assembly's re-voting of the Special Prosecutor's Office Act Kim Gun-hee. Since it's anonymous and handwritten voting, we're showing you how to stand in line and vote. It is reported that it will take about 25 minutes more. I think we can let you know the results in about 25 minutes. After the results of the re-vote of the First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act are released, the National Assembly Speaker will announce it. Then there will be a vote on the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol.
We are currently voting in line at the voting booth. As soon as the end of the vote is declared, the count will begin. After checking the number of plaques, if there is no abnormality, the ticket will be engraved. We will deliver the results of the vote as soon as they come out. Justice Minister Park Sung-jae also said this while explaining the demand for reconsideration. He pointed out that the problem is that the opposition party only gave the right to recommend candidates for the special prosecution because of the opposition party's non-soil clause.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
Basically, the right to reject a specific special prosecutor's candidate is the right to reject it. Given that the purpose of the special prosecutor is to investigate the president's spouse, who is currently serving as the head of the administration, there can be big differences in that part because it is the special prosecutor who chose a candidate that may not be objectively in conflict of interest or made a candidate that may not be in conflict of interest.
[Anchor]
Roh Moo-il, the chief editorial writer, said, "The first lady's independent counsel law has now been proposed for the third time and a re-vote is underway. Both the ruling and opposition parties said earlier that they should come up with more improvement plans. Please emphasize it one more time.
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From the perspective of the opposition party and the Democratic Party, if you really want to get to the bottom of this, what does it matter if someone becomes the special prosecutor? Isn't it so? The special prosecutor recommended by the Democratic Party will investigate hard, and the special prosecutor recommended by anyone other than the Democratic Party will not investigate? Can you see it like that? Usually, you have to appoint a person who meets the requirements of legal professionals, but he has experience in investigation. No matter who appoints such a person, the police and prosecution have continued to investigate suspicions about Kim Gun-hee's stock price manipulation, and there are many data. After reviewing such things, we will investigate insufficient or incomplete areas, but I don't know why they insist on such things that must reflect the Democratic Party's position.
That's a little bit... There's definitely something that the Democratic Party of Korea doesn't understand whether this really wants to reveal suspicions of stock price manipulation or end up with a political offensive. From the ruling party's point of view, it's not just the Democratic Party's political offensive that keeps talking about this, is it? The prosecution had it for so long, and at the end, they were not prosecuted for dubious reasons, but if the prosecution is right, wouldn't the ruling party be like that now? If the prosecution investigated properly and did not indict an innocent person, of course, it shouldn't be said to investigate an innocent person, but there is such suspicion. If it hasn't been investigated for that long, let's appoint a really neutral special prosecutor and reinvestigate it. And let's clear everything, why don't we clean up the suspicions?
But I don't understand why they only insist on their own positions. If this part is rejected today, the Democratic Party of Korea will issue another resolution, right? Since the Democratic Party of Korea says it will do this until it is possible, if this is a big obstacle to the political situation, the ruling party should also take a position to clean up, so we should take a neutral position through negotiations with the Democratic Party and a positive and forward-looking position such as recommended by the chairman of the Korean Bar Association.
[Anchor]
Re-decision of the Special Prosecutor's Law for First Lady Kim. The anonymous voting is underway. I think the plenary session of the National Assembly is quite noisy right now. It's news that the People's Power lawmakers are leaving after the vote on the Special Prosecutor's Law for Kim Gun-hee. In this regard, I think there's a loud voice coming and going. In the end, two-thirds of the registered lawmakers must vote for the first lady's independent counsel law and vote for the president's impeachment, so if 108 people leave, they will not be able to fill two-thirds of the registered lawmakers.
That's right. As we said earlier, if the ruling party chooses to skip the plenary session or leave the party only during the impeachment vote, there is a possibility that it will not be able to check the number of votes. This could be the situation, right? I'll give it to you again. Kim Gun-hee is re-voting the Special Prosecutor Act. People's Power lawmakers are leaving after the re-voting of the First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act. So you're not going to vote on President Yoon's impeachment? That's right. Due to the structure of the seats, the total number of opposition seats is 192. There are 108 seats in the ruling party. So I told you earlier that eight votes were needed to pass the agenda. If all 108 lawmakers are absent, they will not be able to vote at all because they do not reach the 200 quorum for President Yoon's impeachment. We can't even vote at all and there may be a rejection.
Earlier, among the ruling party lawmakers, Rep. Ahn Cheol Soo and Rep. Cho Kyung-tae expressed their approval. However, Representative Cho Kyung-tae, who expressed his approval, has turned against impeachment at the National Assembly this morning, and Representative Ahn Cheol Soo said he would vote for it if the schedule for his resignation was not announced before the vote. You are seeing Supreme Council member Kim Min-seok strongly protesting and criticizing. There is a breaking news that lawmakers of the People's Power are leaving after voting for the Special Prosecutor's Act on Kim Gun-hee. There's a lot of shouting about this right now. It shows the Democratic Party members strongly protesting on the screen.
The power of the people, we held a meeting this morning as well. I also held a gun in the afternoon. People's Power, news reports say they have decided not to participate in the vote on President Yoon's impeachment. Then what happens to the vote on the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol at 5 p.m. today? If only 192 registered lawmakers are sitting in that seat if they agree with at least two-thirds of the registered lawmakers now, the vote itself cannot be established?
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If the number of people present is less than 2,200, the vote will not be established at all.
[Anchor]
So the vote itself doesn't go ahead? If so, the Democratic Party has already said that if the impeachment motion is rejected, the Democratic Party will push again. I can see a Ahn Cheol Soo now. Representative Ahn Cheol Soo seems to be currently waiting for a vote on the first lady Kim's independent counsel law. First of all, Senator Ahn Cheol Soo has said that he will continue to vote for it. Including the Kim Gun-hee Special Counsel Act, the impeachment of Yoon Suk Yeol President. And in particular, in the case of the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol, he said he would approve it if the schedule for his resignation was not announced before the vote, but the schedule for his resignation is not specific. Member for Ahn Cheol Soo is likely to remain. Currently, Joo Ho-young and Yoon Sang-hyun of the ruling party are seen. Representative Yoon Sung-hyun previously said that the Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor's Act would also go against the opposition party, and of course, President Yoon's impeachment bill was also opposed.
I don't think all the ruling party members are leaving. Looking at it now, there's Rep. Bae Hyun-jin. It's not clear whether we've voted or sat in the voting table. Now, there are Democratic Party lawmakers and representative Lee Jae-myung. We also see Representative Lee Eon-joo. According to the breaking news, the power of the people has decided not to vote on President Yoon's impeachment. It is breaking news that the vote on President Yoon's impeachment will take place after the result of the re-voting of the First Lady Kim's independent counsel law is still in progress.
I just showed you the appearance of lawmaker Ahn Cheol Soo. Now, we are showing Democratic lawmakers sitting down. This is the appearance of the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. I can see the ruling party members now. You're watching Representative Ahn Cheol Soo and Representative Yoon Sang-hyun talking. Representative Ahn Cheol Soo just voted on the Kim Special Counsel Act. Representative Ahn Cheol Soo will vote in favor if the resignation schedule is not announced before the vote. He said he would vote in favor of President Yoon's impeachment. Now, we have finished voting on the Special Prosecutor's Law for Kim Gun-hee.
In the midst of the turbulent political situation, the whole nation is now paying attention to the results of the impeachment motion of President Yoon Suk Yeol, and they must be gathered in front of the TV to watch the results. According to the breaking news you hear now, the power of the people has decided not to vote on President Yoon's impeachment. If so, there is a possibility that the two-thirds of the registered lawmakers, who are a quorum for voting on impeachment, may not be satisfied. There are 108 members of the People's Power. In total, 191 opposition lawmakers have left the party, and lawmaker Woo Won-sik has left the party. Attention is now focused on whether or not we have eight votes for the departure of the people's power, but if all the members of the people's power leave like this, it will be meaningless to count the departure votes for President Yoon's impeachment. It's because it doesn't reach the quorum. There is a breaking news that the power of the people has decided.
We are reporting that Kim Gun-hee is leaving after voting for the Special Counsel Act. Earlier, the power of the people opened up the gun. At around 4:40 p.m., I entered the plenary hall after the results of the general meeting, and I broke the news that the results of the general meeting were adopted as the party's rejection of both the First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act and the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol. The ruling party, lawmaker Park Jung-ha, and lawmaker In Yo-han are now seen. It has not been confirmed whether these lawmakers have completed the Special Counsel Act on First Lady Kim or not yet voted. Now, the majority of ruling party lawmakers are leaving after voting on the Kim Special Counsel Act. I see lawmaker Joo Jin-woo. You are looking at the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. Earlier, Roh Dong-il, the chief editorial writer, said, "Shouldn't we vote confidently?" But now, the ruling party seems to have decided to leave after voting on the Kim Special Counsel Act?
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As I said earlier, it's not that I didn't understand the ruling party's position, but I think it's all about voting proudly. And didn't you decide on the rejection party? You don't trust the lawmakers even after deciding on the rejection party? Then why do you decide on the party line? Of course, there is no point in determining the party's theory. I think it's to the extent that we don't decide on a party line, but since we have a practice now in our country, we should trust the lawmakers if we decide on a party line. And I don't know how many votes will come out, but if it was rejected, how can I guarantee that only the ruling party opposed it? I don't think any opposition from the DP to any other opposition parties voted against it? That's not right. I can't guarantee it. Even so, I can confidently vote on why the ruling party opposes it and say it properly.
[Anchor]
191 people proposed the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol. It includes most opposition lawmakers.
[Work day]
That's why it's just signing the proposal anyway. Isn't it different from actually voting? I'm cautious, but as I said earlier, if the political schedule proceeds as it is, it is almost a fixed decision for Lee Jae-myung to become the next president, but isn't there a member of the Democratic Party who opposes it? I think it's basically about voting for that.
[Anchor]
Looking at it at this time, it seems like I'm opening the ballot box, right? The vote on the Special Prosecutor's Law for Mrs. Kim has been completed. I think the deduction will proceed now. Hand writing each one of them. . . That's right, I think the vote is over. The vote on the Special Prosecutor's Law for Mrs. Kim is over. The results will be announced soon. Currently, many lawmakers have left because they have decided not to vote on President Yoon's impeachment. However, there are breaking news that some lawmakers remain in the plenary session even after the vote. It is expected that we will see the results of the Special Prosecutor's Law on Mrs. Kim. After the results of the independent counsel law vote on Kim Gun-hee, there will be a vote on the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol. I'm still giving it to you.
There is a news report that members of the People's Power are leaving the plenary session immediately after voting for the Special Prosecutor's Act on Kim Gun-hee. If there is no abnormality after checking the number of plaques like this, the process of classifying the tickets will continue. Strangely few people, sometimes this problem occurs. If so, there is a possibility that it will take time to read or not. It appears that you are sorting the tables now.
[Anchor]
Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel law was first proposed, followed by the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol, but after this order was set, there was a possibility that the ruling party could actually vote on Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel law and leave without voting on President Yoon Suk Yeol's impeachment.
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In the past, the quorum of decisions is established, so more than a half of the registered members are present, so you can vote, but if you don't meet the quorum, the quorum is two-thirds of the registered members, so you don't count the votes and declare that the vote will not be established.
[Anchor]
For now, the meeting can go ahead because we've filled the quorum. You organized it well. I also see lawmaker Kim Eun-hye now. Only some ruling party lawmakers remain in the National Assembly now. The majority of the People's Power lawmakers have left. Only some lawmakers of the People's Power remain in the plenary session after the vote on the Special Prosecutor Kim Act. Many lawmakers have left because most of them have decided to boycott the vote on President Yoon's impeachment. If more than two-thirds of the lawmakers present approve the attendance of more than 150 lawmakers, which is the majority of the special prosecutor Kim's law, it will be approved. So, depending on how many people were present today, the votes required for approval are different. Members are watching right now.
The results will be announced soon. After the vote on the first lady Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel law, the impeachment bill of President Yoon Suk Yeol will now be presented and voted on. Since there is a news report that the power of the people has decided to leave after voting on the Special Counsel Kim Act, even if the vote is actually held, without confirming the number of votes cast.
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Since the quorum of votes is two-thirds of the registered members. If it's less than that... we can vote, but if it's less than two-thirds, we don't count the votes.
[Anchor]
In the meantime, there have been observations that if the People's Power lawmakers vote, the party will be opposed, but since it is conducted as a secret ballot, there may be a vote of departure. I think it's a strategy to prevent the departure vote from coming out at all. I think I'm bringing another ballot box with me now. The vote count of the Special Prosecutor Kim Gun-hee Act is continuing. I'm taking a deduction right now. the impeachment motion of the President of Yoon Suk Yeol It was three nights. There was a declaration of emergency martial law. There was a release the next day. The very next day, the 6th night party submits the impeachment motion. And on the 5th, the next day, the impeachment bill was reported to the National Assembly, and a vote on the impeachment will be held today.
The vote will be held as soon as the result of the re-vote of the first lady Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel law is released soon, but from the current situation, it seems to be virtually impossible to pass. The power of the people, we continue to report the news that we have decided not to vote on President Yoon's impeachment. This morning, President Yoon Suk Yeol issued a public apology. He said he would not shy away from legal and political responsibility, and this martial law would have no second martial law.He said he would entrust the party with the plan to operate the political situation, including the term of office. The term of office problem is interpreted as including shortening the term of office. Constitutional amendment to shorten the term of office, right? And then there's three things: resignation and impeachment. Hold on, I think I'm counting down right now.
[Anchor]
The work is being done to classify the handwritten tables one by one.
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The white one was used for voting and the one used for or not. That's to check the nameplate. That's because that number has to match.
[Anchor]
It's written on the green paper. It was written whether it was done or not, and the plaque was written on a white paper earlier.
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It's checking the name and the ballot separately.
[Anchor]
You're just checking the numbers, because it's anonymous. Chairman Woo Won-sik will announce the results of the vote shortly. As you said, President Yoon issued an apology at 10 a.m. four days after martial law was declared. The declaration of emergency martial law came out of desperation as president. However, in the process, he announced a public statement that he was very sorry for the inconvenience to the people. In response, it is impossible for representative Han Dong-hoon and president of the People's Power to perform their duties normally. He said the president's early resignation is inevitable. Lee Jae-myung, chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea, is very disappointed with the president's statement. He also criticized it as saying that it is a remark that does not meet the public's eye level and raises anger. CEO Han Dong-hoon talked about the need for an early resignation. But what other way is there to step down early?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
As I said earlier, basically, forcing the suspension of duties by law is an ongoing impeachment. As I said earlier, there are two things that follow: the self-retirement. I don't think constitutional amendment is a way to step down early. The constitutional amendment can be literally added as a supplementary provision as explained earlier while changing the constitution and changing the term of office, but the process of constitutional amendment does not require the president to decide on the constitutional amendment, but basically requires the consent of two-thirds of the lawmakers.
[Anchor]
Wait a minute.
[Won-sik/Speaker of the National Assembly]
I don't know where you are, but please sit down until this agenda is processed.
[Anchor]
The chairman of the National Assembly appealed to me to sit down until the result of the vote comes out because I keep voting and leaving. Please keep telling me.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
In the end, even if a constitutional amendment is made, more than two-thirds of the lawmakers must finally agree on what to do about the constitutional amendment and its contents. Therefore, then there are political consensus processes in which the ruling and opposition parties agree on specific details. The independent counsel law for Kim Gun-hee itself is not passing because there is no agreement.
[Won-Sik Woo/Speaker of the National Assembly]
I'll tell you the results of the vote later.
[Anchor]
Say it once again, please.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
In conclusion, it is quite difficult to make and pass a bill, but the ruling and opposition parties agree on the constitutional bill to amend the constitution, and there is no real possibility that it will be short-lived. Even if it all passes, the physical actual period is at least 110 days.
[Anchor]
Then, there are actually two things: impeachment and resignation, but the impeachment bill has been decided by rejection. The power of the people. Then, the only thing I can do is to be white, but I'm not white right now, if you listen to President Yoon Suk Yeol's position. It doesn't include the expression "Haya" at all. So what does it mean? Early resignation. CEO Han Dong-hoon said early retirement was necessary.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
So, in conclusion, even if the presidential system itself is changed or he resigns, a certain point will be set. This alone does not say what kind of early resignation we are going to have and how we are going to solve this legal problem and political turmoil now.
[Anchor]
It's a little hard to predict because there's no precedent right now. What do you think of the chief editorial writer of the labor day? CEO Han Dong-hoon is in the position that early retirement is necessary. However, according to the party's rejection of the impeachment bill, the power of the people is expected to leave without voting.
[Work day]
I'm not sure exactly what CEO Han Dong-hoon was thinking. I vehemently avoid mentioning the word impeachment, so as you said, how to do it, early withdrawal. I can't think of what I'm talking about right now. So I want you to clarify your exact position on that, basically. And even when representative Han Dong-hoon met with President Yoon Suk Yeol, for example, the perception of declaring emergency martial law still remains unchanged. Even if I listened to the conversation earlier, the emergency martial law came out of desperation. But I'm sorry for the inconvenience to the people. I said that.
So I think that's still not changing. Emergency martial law had no choice but to do it. That perception was inevitable. But what the people are asking for is not whether to declare a second martial law or not. Why did you make such a judgment at first, and if there is a local war now, or if the unrest is spreading very widely, that is what the emergency constitution establishes. There may be disagreements about whether it is an emergency that corresponds to the requirement to declare an emergency.
But there is little disagreement about this emergency. From the standpoint of the general public as well as jurists and legal experts, what kind of engagement and wartime emergency is this? I wanted to hear an apology for that because I've been thinking a lot that this isn't right. However, I know that President Yoon Suk Yeol and CEO Han Dong-hoon have different perceptions from each other. In what way, the president and himself can't agree without saying that the president of Yoon Suk Yeol took over no matter how much representative Han Dong-hoon talks, right? After adjusting that position, I think a specific position will come out. I think it is necessary to clarify the specific position that is clear in any way, if the suspension of his job is necessary, and if the early resignation is necessary, it is necessary to clarify his position.
[Anchor]
After the president's apology to the public, he is interpreting the contents of his apology in detail. There are many interpretations because no specific details have been released. Can you interpret the part that you expressed that you will entrust the party with the stabilization plan of the political situation in the future, including the term of office, as saying that you leave everything to the party, including the term of office?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
I don't know if this expression itself is actually appropriate. Because it basically has the authority of the president, the responsibility of the president, the duty and responsibility and authority as a constitutional guardian of the constitution, and the authority of the Armed Forces. How do you leave this to a particular political party? Secondly, what we have now caused is not to apologize or make such demands for rude talk cases. Basically, he said he would not hesitate to take legal and political responsibility for the president, who is the final bastion of the Constitution, but the legal responsibility here is the crime of rebellion in the case now accused.
[Anchor]
It seems that the vote on the Special Prosecutor's Law for Mrs. Kim Gun-hee is over.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
The Minister of Justice didn't come in after all. In principle, when dealing with the agenda in the National Assembly, it is the attitude toward the people that the State Council members are in place. In fact, the prime minister has to come today, but if he came instead after asking for understanding due to pending state affairs, he has to fulfill his responsibilities as a member of the State Council, but to go in the middle like this is to ignore the National Assembly, and to ignore the representative agency of the people, the National Assembly, is to ignore the people. The Speaker of the National Assembly also felt really angry that the National Assembly was violated by a gunfire a few days ago, but the members of the State Council should not continue to do this. It's arrogant, it's ignoring the National Assembly, it's ignoring the people.
The National Assembly will take appropriate action for not fulfilling its responsibilities today. Let me tell you the results of the vote. The re-deliberation of the bill on the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate the facts of the stock price manipulation case of Yoon Suk Yeol's spouse, Kim Gun-hee, is declared to have been rejected with 198 votes and 102 votes. Decision Paragraph 2 Presents the impeachment motion of the Presidential Yoon Suk Yeol.
[Anchor]
As a result of the re-voting of the Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act, 198 votes were in favor and 102 votes were rejected. There are six votes left.
[Work day]
It's a close call, really.
[Anchor]
There are six votes left. You are watching the citizens who participated in the Gwanghwamun rally on the right. On the left, you are looking at the citizens who participated in the Yeouido rally. As the news of the rejection is reported now, it is reported as a Gwanghwamun rally and a conservative group's rally, but you seem to be welcoming it, right? [Anchor] Among the ruling party lawmakers, Ahn Cheol Soo remains, but the rest of them are leaving. Democratic Party members are strong, and Joo Ho-young is seen among the ruling party members. Member for Ahn Cheol Soo is also sitting down. 300 people voted, with 198 votes in favor of 102 votes against it, and eventually, the Kim Special Prosecutor Act was rejected. Park Chan-dae, floor leader of the Democratic Party of Korea, is expected to give a speech on the proceedings.
{ 여사}The results of the re-voting of the First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act have been rejected. It's 198 votes in favor and 102 against. I think there were more votes against it than the last re-vote. At that time, four votes were in favor of two, and two votes were not in favor of it, and they probably abstained. So there were four votes. But now, we have six votes.
[Work day]
In some cases, when Kim Gun-hee passed the independent counsel law and rejected the impeachment bill in the re-decision vote, there were probably talks about this, but six votes were left anyway.I don't think Ma was approved.
[Anchor]
102 votes against, 198 in favor. Two-thirds of the vote must approve to make a resolution. So it was rejected. So it was finally discarded. It was the third re-vote of the Special Prosecutor's Office Act, which was re-decided after returning to the president's veto. In the end, it was rejected and finally discarded. I see Park Chan-dae, the floor leader. I think I'll probably make a statement on the proceedings. Now what's on the table is the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol. The impeachment of Yoon Suk Yeol's president has been tabled.
Before we proceed with the vote on this, Democratic Party floor leader Park Chan-dae has now settled down to give a speech on the proceedings. Currently, most members of the People's Power are out. You are watching the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. We broke the news. I told you that the Special Prosecutor Kim's Act was finally abolished. A vote on President Yoon's impeachment will then be held. And on the left and right sides of the screen, we're showing you the pro-impeachment rally at the same time.
[Anchor]
The quorum for the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol is two-thirds of the registered members. Then we need to get 200 votes. However, it is said that the powerful lawmakers of the people have left. If so, there is a growing possibility that the decision quorum will not be met. If you don't reach the quorum of 200 people, the vote will not be established. That's why it's rejected. Let's hear the voice of Park Chan-dae, the floor leader.
[Park Chan-dae/Democratic Party floor leader]
There's only one person in the table. I'll explain the proposal. My fellow Koreans and overseas Koreans. National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik and his fellow lawmakers, the floor leader of the Democratic Party of Korea Park Chan-dae. I stood here with a heavy responsibility in front of history and the people. Article 1 of the Constitution of the Republic of Korea states that the Republic of Korea is a democratic republic. It states that the sovereignty of the Republic of Korea lies with the people and all power comes from the people. On September 4, my first speech at the 22nd regular session of the National Assembly began with a reminder of Article 1 of the Constitution.
At that time, I appealed here to return to the spirit of the Constitution to overcome the serious crisis facing the Republic of Korea. Since the inauguration of the Yoon Suk Yeol government, the public safety crisis, the crisis of people's livelihoods, the crisis of democracy, the crisis of peace on the Korean Peninsula, and the crisis of constitutional order are not elsewhere. The whole crisis began when the president, who was supposed to protect the Constitution, betrayed the spirit of the Constitution. He stressed that the president should find a solution from protecting the spirit of the constitution.
Just three months later, on December 3, President Yoon Suk Yeol declared a state of emergency. The president, who is responsible for complying with and protecting the Constitution, committed a riot that destroyed the Constitution and violated the constitutional order on his own. I couldn't believe it when I first heard the news of the emergency decree. It was beyond our common sense that the president, who should abide by and protect the Constitution, violated the Constitution and declared emergency martial law when it was not wartime and there was no incident. Are you saying this really happened in South Korea in 2024? I hoped this situation would be a dream even as I went over the fence of the National Assembly, where access was blocked, to the plenary session to vote on the lifting of the emergency martial law. But it was a stark reality. Fully armed martial law troops stormed the Capitol in helicopters, armored vehicles, and buses.
Hundreds of martial law troops armed with automatic rifles stormed into the constitutional parliament building. The martial law army carried out an operation to arrest the representatives of the opposition party and the ruling party. A midnight coup to arrest and detain a member of Congress took place here in the Capitol, where we are now. The whole scene was broadcast live all over the world in real time. All citizens were shocked by the emergency martial law for the first time in 45 years. The pride of being a model country of democracy has turned into shame at once. I will never forget the shock of the tragic and tragic day. Dear senior colleagues! President Yoon Suk Yeol's declaration of emergency martial law is a clear unconstitutionality that does not meet procedures or requirements and is invalid at the source.
Article 77 (1) of the Constitution stipulates the requirements of martial law when it is necessary to respond to military needs or maintain public well-being as a force in wartime, incident, or equivalent national emergencies. But there was no war, no speculation, no equivalent national emergency. Article 77 (4) of the Constitution, which states that the President must notify the National Assembly without delay when martial law is declared, was also violated. 12. 3 Declaration of emergency martial law is clearly a crime of rebellion under the criminal law. Article 87 of the Criminal Code punishes rioting for the purpose of excluding state power or disrupting national constitution in all or part of the territory of the Republic of Korea as an act of rebellion. The martial law army, which entered the Constitutional Assembly with guns, attempted to arrest and detain lawmakers, including National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik, Democratic Party Chairman Lee Jae-myung, People's Power Leader Han Dong-hoon, and Cho Kuk, leader of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party, and blocked many lawmakers from entering the plenary session, hindering the National Assembly's decision to lift martial law.
The National Constitution has all the requirements for rebellion, which is a riot for the purpose of national constitution. President Yoon Suk Yeol led this civil war. President Yoon Suk Yeol personally called Hong Jang-won, the first deputy director of the National Intelligence Service, and ordered the arrest of the lawmakers, and told them to take this opportunity to catch them all and organize them all. President Yoon Suk Yeol also called the commander of special warfare and the commander of the Capital Defense to check the situation himself. In other words, the Declaration of Emergency martial law is an act of rebellion committed by the President to use the military to seize people's sovereignty and seize not only administrative power but also legislative and judicial power to maintain his power. The Yoon Suk Yeol who planned, carried out, and led the civil war is the head of the civil war, the leader of the civil war, the leader of the civil war.
My fellow Members, my fellow Members! As was revealed in the December 3 emergency martial law rebellion, Yoon Suk Yeol is in a state where normal thinking and rational judgment are impossible, let alone qualifying itself to perform the duties of the President. Even after martial law was lifted by the National Assembly's resolution to lift it, Yoon Suk Yeol said it was a warning, let alone an apology. Does it make sense for a president of a democracy to use the military to try to arrest and detain the opposition and neutralize the constitutional body of the National Assembly? If you don't suspend your duties, you don't know what kind of reckless things you'll do again using your powerful power.
The way to protect the people and the country is to get them out of their jobs right now. Impeachment of the Yoon Suk Yeol is a serious issue for the future of the Republic of Korea. It is not the subject of political strife, nor is it a matter of political advantage or disadvantage. 12. 3. The emergency martial law civil war is having a serious adverse effect on our country's economy, diplomacy, and security. It is obvious that the economic, diplomatic and security crisis facing the Republic of Korea will worsen if Yoon Suk Yeol continues to serve as president. For people around the world who witnessed the emergency martial coup in South Korea in real time, Yoon Suk Yeol has been branded a danger to democracy. As long as the dangerous Yoon Suk Yeol remains president, normal diplomacy cannot take place, and foreigners cannot invest with confidence in an unstable country where they do not know when or what will happen.
The economy is already in a big shock. Since the emergency martial law, the exchange rate has soared and foreigners' stock market sales have soared. The presence of Yoon Suk Yeol in our economy is the biggest obstacle to growing uncertainty. Diplomacy is also a failure. The Yoon Suk Yeol of dangerous people is already being avoided by foreign leaders to the extent that foreign figures' visit to Korea and summits have been postponed. It also has a profound negative impact on security. Yoon Suk Yeol, a danger that destroys democracy and the rule of law, is a stumbling block in the Korea-U.S. alliance. The New York Times diagnosed that the South Korea-U.S. alliance has been put to the test. U.S. Secretary of State Kurt Campbell criticized the declaration of the emergency martial law as a gross misjudgment, and the U.S. postponed meetings and exercises scheduled to be held by South Korea and the U.S. defense authorities.
If impeachment is rejected and Yoon Suk Yeol continues to serve as president, it is obvious that the evaluation of Korea will fall to a level that is difficult to recover and the national crisis will accelerate. Impeachment of Yoon Suk Yeol is the best solution to overcome the crisis we are in. Eliminating uncertainty with impeachment and showing the world the resilience of our democracy is the fastest shortcut to overcoming economic, diplomatic, and security crises. Impeachment is the best way to deal with emergency civil war responsibly. Protecting the Yoon Suk Yeol of a rebellion means becoming an accomplice of a rebellion that destroys the constitutional order and democracy. It is a betrayal of the people and treason of the people that a member of the National Assembly, who should represent the people, will protect those who pointed their guns at the people.
Suspending the Yoon Suk Yeol's duties with the authority of the National Assembly granted by the Constitution is the only way to deal with the emergency martial law situation and overcome the crisis it faces. Making decisions against the will and national interests of the people for private gain is enough for Eulsa 5, which sold the country at the end of the Korean Empire. You must not commit a crime to history. Now, the whole world is watching South Korea. All the people are watching the National Assembly now. The decision we made here today determines the rise and fall of the Republic of Korea. I earnestly appeal to you to prove that the people's sovereignty of the Republic of Korea is firmly alive by voting in favor of the impeachment motion.
I sincerely and earnestly appeal to you to lay the groundwork for wisely overcoming the crisis in the Republic of Korea by suspending the presidential duties of the Yoon Suk Yeol. Members of the People's Power. I earnestly appeal to you to come back here soon and impeach the Yoon Suk Yeol of the rebellion and participate in overcoming and resolving democracy, the people's livelihood, and the crisis in the Republic of Korea.
Rep. Kang Dae-sik. Rep. Kang Myung-koo. Rep. Kang Min-guk. Rep. Kang Sun-yeon. Rep. Kang Seung-gyu. Rep. Ko Dong-jin. Rep. Kwak Kyu-taek. Rep. Kwak Kyu-taek, who attended the resolution calling for lifting the emergency martial law, Rep. Koo Ja-geun. Rep. Kwon Sung-dong. Rep. Kwon Young-se. Rep. Kwon Young-jin. Rep. Kim Ki-woong. Rep. Kim Dae-sik. Rep. Kim Do-eup. Rep. Kim Mi-ae. Former Rep. Kim Min. Rep. Kim Sang-wook. Rep. Kim Sang-wook, who attended the resolution on the demand for the lifting of the emergency martial law, please return. Rep. Kim Sang-wook. Rep. Kim Sang-hoon. Rep. Kim Seok-ki. Rep. Kim Sun-kyo. Rep. Kim Sung-won. Rep. Kim Sung-won who attended the resolution calling for the lifting of the emergency martial law. Welcome back. Rep. Kim So-hee.
Rep. Kim Seung-soo. Rep. Kim Ye-ji. Rep. Kim Yong-tae. Rep. Kim Yong-tae who attended the resolution on the demand for lifting the emergency martial law. Please come back soon. Rep. Kim Wisan, Rep. Kim Eun-hye, Rep. Kim Jang-gyeom, Rep. Kim Jae-seop. Rep. Kim Jae-sup, Rep. Kim Jae-sup, who attended the resolution calling for the lifting of the emergency martial law! Welcome back. Rep. Kim Jung-jae. Rep. Kim Jong-young. Rep. Kim Tae-ho. Rep. Kim Hyung-dong. Rep. Kim Hyung-dong who attended the resolution calling for the lifting of the emergency martial law. Please come back quickly. Rep. Kim Hee-jung. Rep. Na Kyung-won. Rep. Park Loan. Rep. Park Deok-heum. Rep. Park Sang-woong. Rep. Park Sung-min. Rep. Park Sung-hoon. Rep. Park Soo-min. Rep. Park Soo-min who attended the resolution calling for the lifting of the emergency martial law. Welcome back. Rep. Park Soo-young. Rep. Park Jung-ha. Rep. Park Jung-ha who attended the resolution calling for the lifting of the emergency martial law. Welcome back. Rep. Park Jung-hoon. Rep. Park Jung-hoon who attended the resolution calling for the lifting of the emergency martial law. Please come back soon. Rep. Park Joon-tae. Rep. Park Chung-kwon.
[Anchor]
Explained the legitimacy of President Yoon's impeachment, appealed for the suspension of President Yoon's duties, and called the names of the People's Power lawmakers one by one to appeal to participate in the vote. I think they're calling the names of 108 ruling party members one by one. I'm encouraging them to vote, saying, "Welcome back." Currently, most of the members of the People's Power have left, falling short of 200 members of the National Assembly. Senator Ahn Cheol Soo is sitting alone. You can see a member of the Ahn Cheol Soo right now. Park Chan-dae, the floor leader of the ruling party, is calling the names one by one to encourage voting. I showed you that 108 ruling party members are calling out the names one by one. Since the quorum of decisions is filled, the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol has been proposed.
I have to fill 200 people, but there are no more than 200 people. Currently, 191 opposition lawmakers and 192 Ahn Cheol Soo lawmakers are sitting. Choo Kyung-ho, floor leader of the People's Power Party, has expressed his intention to resign from the general assembly.
[Anchor]
I just got a breaking news. There is a breaking news that floor leader Choo Kyung-ho of the People's Power has expressed his intention to resign. When the emergency decree was issued on the night of the 3rd, it sent a message to lawmakers to gather at the headquarters, not at the plenary session of the National Assembly, causing confusion. I was criticized for this. From the Democratic Party's point of view, it said it would consider charges of rebellion. It is reported that he has completed the impeachment vote process and expressed his intention to resign to lawmakers. There is also a news report that floor leader Choo Kyung-ho of the People's Power has expressed his intention to resign at the general assembly. I'm showing you the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. All opposition lawmakers are standing up in place.
Following floor leader Park Chan-dae, who explained the legitimacy of President Yoon Suk Yeol's impeachment, he is calling the names of members of the People's Power to appeal to participate in the vote. Members of the People's Power have already left the plenary session. Except for Ahn Cheol Soo, all 107 members of the People's Power have left their seats. You're looking at the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. The Democratic Party of Korea is appealing for the participation of members of the People's Power.
[Workday]
I think I see a very well-organized performance for political performances as well. My personal opinion is that the members of the People's Power Party should also participate in the vote, but since there is only one thing in the ruling party's perspective, wasn't the vote of Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel bill approved if only two more people agreed? So, no matter how much party theory sets it, you can see that there is a formidable opposition, and I think he used a method of leaving the party to block it. I've seen it in the past, but I personally feel a bit disappointed.
[Anchor]
Earlier, Representative Lee Jae-myung made remarks that did not meet the public's expectations and raised anger this morning, President Yoon Suk Yeol said in a statement. At the same time, he resigned once again and said there was no other way but to step down early due to impeachment. And representative Lee Jae-myung said that if the impeachment bill is rejected, he will pass it even if it is repeated indefinitely. If the People's Power lawmakers do not participate in the impeachment bill, they will not meet the quorum of votes. We have to go through the process of proposing it again and proposing it again.
[Work day]
We're in the regular session of the National Assembly right now. It ends on December 10th. So, the same agenda cannot be proposed before December 10, once it is rejected. That's why we're going to convene another extraordinary session of the National Assembly on the 11th. The extraordinary session of the National Assembly is usually held for a month, but as I've seen before, I have to split the session in a week or just 72 hours, so I'll split the session in that way and continue it until it works for the Democratic Party of Korea. That's what I'm talking about.
[Anchor]
They say they will pass it even if it is repeated indefinitely, as I told them. So, what position should the ruling party take in the future?
[Work day]
Well, impeachment will probably continue to be voted down when the same impeachment comes up.
[Anchor]
Wouldn't it be a lot of pressure if you continue to leave the main hall like that?
[Work day]
It looks very ugly and is not convincing to the people. That's why if Han talked about early retirement and suspension of his job, he should tell us the details of what to do. While talking about the opposition to impeachment, can we continue to respond to this difficult situation with a vague attitude with the meaning that it is not against impeachment? So, any politician responsible for these things, whether it is a constitutional amendment to shorten the term or choose to voluntarily step down through a certain schedule, must reveal them. And can't you just continue to expect that if the impeachment is voted down, the number of people who are at the protest now will increase more and more? We've seen it in the past.
That means you can't lead the political situation or lead the political situation as it is if you just show your avoidance like this, you can't continue like this. I think we need to calm public opinion and seek an alternative to impeachment only when we quickly gather lawmakers' opinions or meet with President Yoon again to reveal how to resign early and suspend his duties.
[Anchor]
He said he would appoint a plan to manage the political situation, including the term of office, and representative Han Dong-hoon also said he needed to step down early. However, legally, the only way to resign early is to impeach and step down on your own.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. In conclusion, the concept of early resignation itself means that he will step down from his post faster than the term prescribed by the current law. When you come down voluntarily, it's called white. Impeachment is the suspension and dismissal of duties according to the law and constitutional procedures. Actually, there are only two. But on what part of that, how are you going to step down early? And the second is basically the president's privilege to remove fluoride in our constitution. Therefore, they are not prosecuted except for the crimes of civil war and foreign exchange. It's paradoxical, but why can we prosecute the rebellion and rebellion?
In short, since it is a crime that can harm or stop the constitutional period of the Republic of Korea, we are creating a structure that can clearly punish that part. In principle, the Constitution already contains the constitutional judgment that it is not appropriate to maintain control over the head of the military, the troops, and all investigative agencies during the president's term in case of civil war and foreign exchange.
[Anchor]
The Democratic Party of Korea criticizes President Yoon for the crime of rebellion in this way, but is this the legal title for the leader, the leader?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. There are certain things like that a monk will be sentenced to death. A water monster is included in the crime of rebellion. In the case of rebellion, the most important concept is the purpose of the national constitution when limiting the power of the state in some regions or arbitrarily abolishing institutions prescribed by the Constitution and laws. In fact, this is a political part, so it's not appropriate for me to say, but basically, the series of martial law, proclamations, and the entry of the military into the National Assembly, it seems that each position should clearly present an opinion on what other than the crime of rebellion and how and why they disagree. I think those parts are necessary.
[Anchor]
Opposition parties and civic groups have also filed complaints for rebellion. It is also an unconstitutional and illegal issuance of emergency martial law that failed to meet martial law requirements despite the reasons for impeachment announced by the six opposition parties. And when martial law was declared, the notification clause of the National Assembly was not implemented. The National Assembly blockade said this was a violation of the separation of powers and infringed on the parliamentarians' right to deliberate and vote. What do you think about these three main reasons?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
I think this part is very clear. All the powers of the President are authorized by the people under the Constitution. Therefore, the process of invoking and exercising the authority must be in accordance with the Constitution and laws. Martial law can only be done if the minimum requirements are met in a really national emergency, and it should also be aimed at allowing another constitutional body, the National Assembly, to examine and lift it. However, the most shocking part of the contents this time is that the National Assembly and political party activities are prohibited. I still remember. The breaking news in this decree No. 1 was that the National Assembly was dissolved. There is no dissolution of the National Assembly in the Constitution of the Republic of Korea.
And if you dissolve the National Assembly by force, this is clearly a civil war. In that respect, I don't think there will be any disagreement, at least if you're a lawyer, that you've done things that could basically pose a fundamental challenge to the constitutional order. Of course, opinions may differ on the timing of implementation or whether it is an attempted rebellion, whether it is a preliminary conspiracy, or an attempted rebellion.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
Park Chan-dae, thank you for your hard work. In accordance with Article 130 (2) of the National Assembly Act, we will vote in an anonymous voting method. And I would like to inform you that the impeachment motion of the President is decided with the approval of at least two-thirds of the registered members in accordance with Article 65 (2) of the Constitution. Please refer to the terminal for the impeachment resolution letter pursuant to Article 133 of the National Assembly Act. In accordance with Article 114 (2) of the National Assembly Act, I will nominate a commissioner for reduction of votes. Rep. Kim Tae-sun, Rep. Park Ji-hye, Rep. Jung Joon-ho, Rep. Cha Ji-ho, Rep. Park Eun-jung, Rep. Lee Hye-min, Rep. Lee Joon-seok, and Rep. Jeon Jong-deok. The eight of you will work hard. Members of the tabulation committee, please come to the tabulation table. Let's start voting right after we have an explanation from the Director of Physicians on how to vote.
[Interview]
Let me explain how to vote. First, you can receive a plaque and a ballot, and then write "A" or "Buddhist" in Korean or Chinese characters in the blank of the ballot. Please note that if you mark any characters or symbols other than A or Boo, they will be invalidated, and if you do not mark any on your ballot, they will be treated as abstentions. That's the end of the explanation and we'll start voting.
[Anchor]
We are now beginning the process of voting on the impeachment motion of President Yoon Suk Yeol. Representative Power of the People of Ahn Cheol Soo, who did not leave, is seen. You are the only one out of 108 people who are participating in the vote. He is the only one who is participating in the vote, and it seems that he is the first to vote. You just heard floor leader Park Chan-dae's explanation of the proposal for the impeachment of President Yoon, which has already been proposed. The voting process is going on right now. Due to the exit of the People's Power lawmaker, 200 members of the National Assembly are short. It seems that the number of members of the National Assembly will not be met due to the lack of members in the National Assembly. The impeachment bill is still expected to be rejected. However, the quorum has been filled and the vote is going on as scheduled.
However, if the number of plaques is less than 200, there is a possibility that you may not be able to open the ballot box. There is a possibility that we may not be able to check the number of votes. The impeachment bill of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol has just been introduced. The anonymous vote has begun. You are seeing Representative Ahn Cheol Soo of the People's Power being the first to vote. The people's power has decided not to participate in the vote, and all of them have left since the re-voting of the Kim Special Counsel Act. Earlier, I broke the news that the re-decision on the Special Prosecutor Kim Act was rejected and finally abolished. After the vote on the Special Prosecutor Kim's Act, all 107 lawmakers, except for the majority of the People's Power and Ahn Cheol Soo, left. Rep. Kim Ye-ji also participated in the impeachment vote. Representative Kim Ye-ji of
People's Power Ahn Cheol Soo. Let me tell you again. People's Power Rep. Ahn Cheol Soo and Rep. Kim Ye-ji also participated in the impeachment vote. Representative Kim Ye-ji was a member of the younger faction, and previously insisted on a constitutional amendment to shorten his term. Currently, Ahn Cheol Soo of the People's Power and lawmaker Kim Ye-ji are reporting that they participated in the vote on President Yoon's impeachment. Currently, a anonymous vote on the impeachment of President Yoon is underway. It is expected to take some time because it is also a anonymous and handwritten vote.
Most members of the People's Power have left, falling short of 200 members of the National Assembly. If the number of members in the National Assembly falls short, the impeachment bill is expected to be rejected. I see Rep. Kim Ye-ji now. I'm holding a vote. President Yoon's impeachment, two-thirds of the registered lawmakers, so 200 out of 300, must approve it to pass. Since most members of the People's Power have left, it is highly likely that they will not be able to check the number of votes. You're looking at the power of the people of Ahn Cheol Soo.
[Anchor]
Earlier, I was talking with lawyer Kim Sung-hoon about the rebellion. Among the reasons for the impeachment announced by the six opposition parties is the attempted rebellion that illegally mobilized the military to storm the National Assembly and attempted to arrest key politicians. In this part, not only the rebellion mass related to the crime of rebellion, but also the participants and active participants can be punished.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
In the case of rebellion, it is possible to punish very strongly. Among them, it is possible to punish not only active participants but also agitators, that is, those who instigated civil war. The rebellion is called a preliminary conspiracy, and strong criminal punishment is possible just by planning without starting execution. So, in conclusion, no matter how you interpret it, you don't have any constitutional authority to justify the invasion of the military or the processes that have taken place in the National Assembly. Therefore, in that part, anyone who decides to do it and anyone who knows the contents in the process of implementing it and works with it for the purpose of national constitutional controversy can be punished as a joint offender for rebellion.
[Anchor]
I see. It was yesterday, and the commanders were interviewed yesterday. They said they didn't know and just followed. So what's the punishment?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
In principle, it is not a requirement for rebellion without the purpose of the national constitution. As stated, if you did not know that this was an act of execution in a rebellion conspiracy, you can avoid punishment. But what's important is that some of the statements, like the 1st Airborne Brigade Commander, were ordered to bring down lawmakers before the vote, or even cut off electricity in connection with it, can be seen as the introduction of military forces to effectively neutralize the right to lift martial law under the Constitution of the National Assembly, but in fact, there is little reason for the commander who was actually deployed to the scene to make such an order all of a sudden. If so, it can be seen as a situation that can be a serious constitutional rebellion.
[Anchor]
What's different from the commander's statement?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
According to the commander's statement, it can be seen that it is a crime of rebellion. Basically, what instructions were given in each of these parts, who recognized and delivered them, or who executed them, is a very important part of future criminal investigations.
[Anchor]
Army Chief of Staff Park An-soo, who was the commander of martial law at the time, said, "The martial law proclamation has a name. However, he said that he knew that martial law was declared only through his discourse report. How can you be punished in this case?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
I need to make sure that's true. Nevertheless, martial law decree No. 1 is to suspend the activities of the National Assembly. 12. According to the 1997 ruling on the 12th military incident, the expansion of martial law nationwide and the expansion of the system nationwide at the time are basically considered as one of the acts of civil war. In other words, if there was an attempt to restrict the basic rights of the people or neutralize a constitutional institution by using physical force alone, the decree itself could be an act of rebellion itself. If you look at the contents of the decree, no matter how much you did not receive a legal review and sealed it in your name, there is a possibility of guilt in that part.
[Anchor]
I see. The prosecution investigation, the police investigation, and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit are all underway. There will also be a summons investigation in the future regarding the prosecution and police investigation. And the presidential subpoena is inevitable. How will the investigation proceed in the future and what points should we pay attention to?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
In conclusion, all the proclamations and contents that have already been released are revealed. And it shows what the police physically controlled the National Assembly, and what the military special forces wanted to do to infiltrate and enter the National Assembly. Specifically, an investigation needs to be conducted into the parts of who understood and planned the arrest order for politicians at the time and how the order was made. Based on those parts, it is necessary to determine how far the specific participants are and how far they can be punished. But the important parts of the progress here are the items, and the first thing is who wrote the decree.
[Anchor]
It says that you have to see who wrote the decree, and that you will be punished.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
And now, not only the National Assembly but also the NEC has actually occupied it. This is really like that for me. As a lawyer, the power of the state can only be justified by the Constitution and laws. No individual or individual can do it, and the people have delegated just that much. The same goes for the army moving. The army entered the NEC and it took over. If so, in fact, it seems necessary to check this part of how, why, why, what intention, what purpose. Still, if the military was not just deployed here and there after martial law was declared, but specifically to the National Assembly, the National Election Commission, and some military offices, there is a very high possibility of a planning stage, so it is also very important when and by whom the plan was made.
[Anchor]
We should consider when, where, who, and why we made this decision. What do you think of lawyer Kim Sung-hoon? Do you think it will take a lot of time?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
I don't think it will take much time. Fortunately, statements and testimonies of those who played roles in each execution unit are already coming out through the media. The most important thing is actually the fundamental dilemma. So it's actually the President of Yoon Suk Yeol who decided and exercised authority on all of these things, in a way, as things stand now, announced martial law and made statements and claimed that this was justified.
[Anchor]
Article 77 (1) of the Constitution of Emergency martial law states that emergency martial law can be done by the president.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. Then, there is a fundamental concern about whether the investigation and punishment of the president, who can exercise urgent authority in all processes of power at the peak of state power, can work through the state's power process. Our Constitution allows prosecution while in office in the case of civil war or foreign exchange crimes. On the contrary, if it was not a civil war and foreign exchange, they would not be prosecuted while in office.
[Anchor]
Except for cases where the President's privilege to remove fluoride, civil war, or foreign exchange crimes is committed under Article 84 of the Constitution.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. Insurrection is the arbitrary suspension and abolition of the Constitution and laws. If the president arbitrarily suspends the constitution and laws, then he can no longer serve as the guardian of the constitution of the country, so he should be able to turn criminal and quickly proceed with legal action related to the investigation. In fact, I think there is an impeachment procedure with such a constitutional procedure. So, regarding this part, shortening the term of office is a political issue, but if you think about each of these reasons as a rebellion or a rebellion, I think we should review and consider whether it is acceptable under our constitution to proceed with the current rebellion investigation and that the commander of the military and the main person of the rebellion investigation are the same.
[Anchor]
At this time, we continue to show you the appearance of the plenary session of the National Assembly. Currently, the vote on President Yoon's impeachment is underway. All ruling party lawmakers, except Ahn Cheol Soo and Kim Ye-ji, did not participate in the impeachment vote. Therefore, if 200 members of the impeachment motion approve it, it will be passed, but the quorum of the vote has not been met. Therefore, there is a high possibility of rejection due to the failure of the vote. The voting process is continuing. Earlier, Kim Ye-ji, a member of the People's Power, was also seen voting and leaving. Both Ahn Cheol Soo and Kim Ye-ji participated in the vote on the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol. Except for Ahn Cheol Soo and Rep. Kim Ye-ji, all 106 members of the People's Power Party have left after only participating in the reconsideration vote of the Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act. And lawyer Kim Sung-hoon, and Lee Joon-seok, a member of the New Reform Party, were also briefly seen voting, and Lee Joon-seok said that if the people's power sympathizes or tries to pass lightly, he will judge the dissolution of the party. What is a justification dissolution trial and what are the possibilities?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
First of all, the justification dissolution trial can be said to be unconstitutional, that is, a dissolution trial for an unconstitutional party. It is a legal procedure that can dissolve associations in terms of defensive democracy, which are political purposes of denying the constitutional basic order or neutralizing the constitutional order. However, basically, the application for an unconstitutional dissolution trial is made by the government, so it seems difficult for the current government to proceed with those parts.
If you look at what Rep. Lee Joon-seok said, no matter when the government is formed in this regard, the purpose of halting the current constitution, violating basic constitutional rights, and disrupting legal rights has already been confirmed to some extent, and without taking legal action on it, we will someday seek a trial to dissolve the unconstitutional party politically as well as legally responsible for the parts that lawmakers did not play their role as constitutional guardians. You can see it for this purpose.
[Anchor]
At this time, we are showing you the plenary session of the National Assembly. We also see Rep. Cheon Ha-ram of the New Reform Party. To summarize the situation so far, I broke the news that the vote was rejected by six votes as a result of the re-decision of the Kim Gun-hee Special Counsel Act. Subsequently, Park Chan-dae, floor leader of the proposed impeachment of President Yoon, explained the proposal, and in the process, he called the names of 108 ruling party members one by one, encouraging them to vote. However, all 106 ruling party lawmakers except Ahn Cheol Soo and Kim Ye-ji did not participate in the impeachment vote. Let's hear from National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik now.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
Members of the People's Power should also participate in the vote so that we can all vote together. Since this issue is not a matter of factionalism, it is a matter of history and democracy of the Republic of Korea, so I will also say something as the Speaker of the National Assembly urges the members of the People's Power to participate in the vote. The Republic of Korea is a country that the people have protected. The power of the Republic of Korea to overcome the tragic pain of modern and contemporary history of colonization, war, division, and dictatorship came from the people. The president's declaration of emergency martial law is not correct because it denies this history and has caused a great blow to the pride of the people.
It is a democracy created by the blood and tears of the people for a long time. So people around the world are amazed at Korea, the only country that has gone through a colony to become an advanced country. Backed by this phenomenal view, K-cultures such as K-pop, K-drama, and K-food that shake the world are created because they are supported by democracy and economic growth created by the people, not the success of any political faction. No one should hurt this. However, this emergency martial law surprised our people and surprised the world. I was surprised to see if the democracy of the Republic of Korea was so weak.
However, on the other hand, the world is surprised by the democracy of the Republic of Korea. Two and a half hours after declaring the emergency decree, citizens gathered in front of the National Assembly, and lawmakers came into the plenary hall and lifted the emergency decree in two and a half hours. It's unprecedented in history. The whole world is surprised by the resilience of democracy in the Republic of Korea, to the extent that there is no case in the world. This resilience, we have to make it. The world is surprised to see this resilience, which is being created in a really orderly manner according to the constitutional procedure, so this great Republic of Korea must be protected together regardless of political factions.
But look. How do you think the people, the world, and history will see this not being on the ballot in the process of dealing with the unfair emergency martial law? Aren't you afraid of the evaluation of history? Aren't you afraid of the public's evaluation? Aren't you afraid of the world's evaluation? If the world's evaluation is undermined by showing the democratic image of a Republic of Korea that cannot be corrected in this way, and a weak Korea, can you be responsible for it? I appeal to the members of the People's Power with all my might. Please join the vote. That is the way to protect the Republic of Korea and the democracy of the Republic of Korea now. I'll say it again.
Please join the vote. Refusing to vote is something you can do with your free will.Ma can't do this. I think people who want to vote according to their free will should vote. As a patriot, as a member of the National Assembly of the Republic of Korea, and as an institution representing the people, I think that's a duty of course. Please come in and vote.
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[Anchor]
Let me point out the political and legal issues in the turbulent political situation in turn. First, lawyer Seo Jeong-bin is sitting next to me. Let's greet lawyer Seo Jeong-bin and point out the key issues. Please come in. You explained well a while ago, but first, President Yoon's public statement and apology were announced today. I heard the apology for a while and talked about what it was, and I said I would not avoid legal and political responsibility, but I will analyze what it means legally. Let's listen to it. President Yoon Suk Yeol made a brief statement today. He said he would take legal and political responsibility. legal and political responsibility The investigation has just begun. He said he was legally responsible. Then, can I interpret it as meaning that I will be investigated?
[Jeongbin Seo]
That's right. First of all, to distinguish between legal and political responsibilities, political responsibility is a matter of one's own future. I don't know what the outcome will be today, but if impeachment is voted on, I will take responsibility for such a judgment by the Constitutional Court afterward. It seems to be a matter related to this kind of future, and to take legal responsibility is eventually seen as a content that can be held accountable in some cases for those parts that are being investigated. In particular, the part that can be considered to be the beginning or beginning of the investigation into the president must be about whether the declaration of martial law constitutes a rebellion or not. In the end, according to this investigation, whether the president is investigated or is responsible for the results, I will do all the responsibilities for this, which can be interpreted as this.
[Anchor]
I'll point it out one by one. The chief financial officer of the Labor Day is here to explain some of the political situations. Please come in. Please come in. I heard there's a lot of traffic right now.
[Work day]
is blocked. It's hard to get on the subway right now and there's a lot of traffic.
[Anchor]
The political situation is also changing rapidly. Earlier, we talked about the presidential statement. How did you see the presidential statement? Do you think there were enough apples?
[Work day]
I will first conclude that it is an insufficient apology. Perhaps there should be a clear reference to what we did wrong when we apologized many times.
I'll do it wrong like this and not do it like this next time. I think you're saying that martial law was inevitable when it was supposed to be like this. I think he said that he had no choice as the chief executive, and apologizing and apologizing was an apology for the inconvenience and anxiety of the people. So, I was a little nervous before I started because I couldn't do it if the president apologized for a statement. People say this all the time. I thought it would be different this time, but what I felt after the conversation was such inadequacy. Why did I have to do this more honestly? Please explain the process a little more and the people felt that I had no choice. I wish I could have felt it even a little bit. That's the regret.
[Anchor]
There was also a mention that there would never be anything like a second martial law.
[Work day]
There is a lot of talk in the market right now, and what the Democratic Party claims is that there will be a second martial law right now, so many citizens are gathering in front of the National Assembly, and lawmakers and aides are not leaving the National Assembly, right? Whether it's a rumor or not, it's true that there are such concerns in the market, and when Democratic Party members such as Kim Min-seok talk about martial law for a few months, I feel the same way.Would such a thing ever happen in the world right now? He said that if the National Assembly is in the majority, it should be lifted immediately if the National Assembly demands it to be lifted. But now that this has happened, it's absurd to talk about the second martial law. It's a situation that's hard to dismiss like this. So I think you definitely mentioned him.
[Anchor]
Today, President Yoon apologized to the public and said he would not avoid legal and political responsibility. Earlier, the legal responsibility issue is also legally under investigation. We are now investigating the accusation case for rebellion. You can ask lawyer Seo Jeong-bin about that, and I will not avoid the issue of political responsibility. And he said he would entrust the political stability plan to the party in the future, including the term of office. How do you interpret this? There is even a story of a second-line retreat.
[Work day]
Since people are talking about that, CEO Han Dong-hoon also said that. If you talked about it in more detail, including the issue of shortening the term of office, I wonder if the public opinion calling for impeachment and such heat have eased a little, but it's a little disappointing to say that you'll just leave everything, including the term, to the party without talking at all. If you think about it, basically, what we can say is that you may voluntarily step down, and some people are talking about a constitutional amendment to shorten your term of office. There can be things like that, and the other thing is impeachment, but you can't say, "Impeach me," right? Perhaps that's why I think I have to step down as a second term and form a national cabinet, including the constitutional amendment of the shortening of the term as discussed at the National Power Association a few days ago.
[Anchor]
What exactly does a national cabinet mean?
[Work day]
I can't say exactly what it is, but in the past, when Roh Tae-woo and such times, the prime minister and these people are receiving their present, and they have no relationship with the ruling party, or they can be recommended by the opposition party, and they set up such a cabinet together, so I won't be involved in daily state administration. I'll have the prime minister
run all the state affairs. I think the people will be convinced if they say they will take over and discuss the issue of constitutional amendment, including shortening the term in the meantime.
[Anchor]
In the future, our party and the government will take responsibility for state administration together. If this retreats to the second term, the state administration is the party and the government, and isn't the head of the government now the president? How can I interpret this?
[Work day]
Well, I think it's a little hard to interpret it that way, saying that I'm going to finish my term in the future, that I'm going to work hard on state administration.
[Anchor]
Before that, he said he would appoint everyone to the party, including the term of office.
[Work day]
So, for example, the party is talking about a constitutional amendment to shorten the term of office, so I don't know what will happen.In any case, if the constitutional amendment is made to shorten the term of office, it seems to be this kind of reaction that we will discuss it together. Before the first statement, some even worried that they would complete the term given by the people as president until the end. However, if you look at it like that, I don't know what the term of office will be like in the future, but I think it means that I will interpret it in a more good way, saying that I will do it without neglect until then.
[Anchor]
If the constitutional amendment is made to shorten the term of office, will the president propose it himself?
[Jeongbin Seo]
In the case of a constitutional amendment to shorten the term of office, in the end, if such contents of the National Assembly are agreed upon, it must be dealt with through a resolution of the National Assembly. So if this eventually ends up having to amend the Constitution. Because the Constitution stipulates such a term of office of the president, there is a part that needs to be changed, so a resolution of the National Assembly is required, and the quorum of the National Assembly's resolution requires the consent of more than two-thirds of the members in the office, or more than 200 people. Of course, if you want to get this far, will you actually shorten the term of office, through constitutional amendment. Or, then, how long will it be and how long will it be for the rest of the year? It is still unclear whether it will actually continue because this is a matter to be discussed, but if it becomes an agenda and is decided, there will be procedures that must be submitted not only to the National Assembly's decision but also to a referendum.
[Anchor]
Regarding the term of office, the Constitution says that the president's term is five years, and he cannot serve a second term. The president said in today's statement that he would appoint all of them to the party, including the term of office, but the opposition party's position is to step down immediately. Immediately step down, step down, and impeach again. Can the opposition agree to this plan?
[Work day]
Is it a matter of constitutional amendment to shorten the term of office? I think it will be difficult to agree. However, so far, the opposition parties should revise the constitution by shortening the term of office and shorten the term of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. When I said three years is a long time, people said that. That also came out as a room. And CEO Lee Jae-myung also responded positively to him, probably not bad. But I think this issue is actually a much better direction than impeaching, but impeachment is simply a constitutional suspension and we, of course, have a huge impact. Isn't this the third time that the president is impeached? So this political situation, which is the daily routine of impeachment, is by no means desirable.
[Anchor]
There are many opinions and opinions coming out right now. First of all, the screen on the right and the screen that viewers are watching is the plenary session of the National Assembly. I'm going to have a meeting at 5 p.m., so I haven't seen any lawmakers yet. I don't see Chairman Woo Won-sik. And both the ruling and opposition parties are now holding a general meeting of lawmakers. On the left, reporters are waiting in front of the general meeting of the People's Power lawmakers. As soon as the results of the general meeting come out, it is expected to announce the results of the general meeting and enter the plenary session. Now, representative Han Dong-hoon has made a short statement after today's presidential statement. Let's hear what kind of position CEO Han Dong-hoon expressed and see what CEO Han Dong-hoon is thinking. Representative Han Dong-hoon first talked about the martial law incident with the intention of following the party's theory, but the next day, he heard about the arrest of politicians, including himself, and expressed his position that the president needs to be suspended. Later, there was talk of favoring the impeachment of the president, but this morning's remarks changed again. Let's listen to it. Representative
has been changing his position in the last few days. Looking at the position that came out after today's presidential statement, he once again stated that the early resignation of the president is inevitable. Since the party and the government said they would take responsibility for running the political situation, they said they would discuss it closely with the prime minister in the future. How should I interpret CEO Han Dong-hoon's remarks?
[Work day]
It's changed as you said several times. He said he would block it, said he was against the impeachment bill, but he also talked about suspension of duty and early retirement. But if you look closely at it, you've completely avoided the word impeachment. I avoided it on purpose. You don't say impeachment, do you?
[Anchor]
If you ask me if it's impeachment, have I ever said impeachment? We're talking like this again.
[Work day]
That's what it's like to talk about. I didn't say impeachment. That means that he avoided it on purpose, but if he mentioned impeachment, it would sound like he is in favor of impeachment today. However, as I said earlier, there are many ways to leave early. The situation has changed, so you can voluntarily step down, and there are things like that that you can revise the constitution as mentioned earlier. Of course, there's impeachment.Isn't impeachment a little different concept from early resignation and suspension of duty?
Since this is a situation where it is a forced suspension, Representative Han Dong-hoon is probably saying that he will find the best way to the Republic of Korea and the people, and some of the opposition parties are thinking about the constitutional amendment to shorten the term of office.
[Anchor]
You heard representative Han Dong-hoon's remarks that have changed since President Yoon Suk Yeol's statement this morning. You are looking at the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. I'm okay with the plenary session at 5 p.m. We have about 50 minutes left. It is on the second floor of the National Assembly headquarters, where the General Assembly of the People's Power is being held. It is the second conference hall, just across from the main assembly hall of the National Assembly, where the Democratic Congress is being held. The current parliamentary assembly is being held here, and I would like to hear the results of the Democratic Party's parliamentary assembly again. So let's connect the presidential office here. The presidential office's position and President Yoon's position have also changed a little yesterday and today.
First of all, I heard about today's presentation, and he said he would not avoid legal or political responsibility. They said there would be no second martial law. He also said he would appoint the Jungkook Management Plan Party, including the term of office. Then let's connect the presidential office.
[Anchor]
It's 4:31 p.m. right now. In the next 29 minutes, the voting schedule for the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol will begin. I'll let you know as soon as the site is connected. So let's talk a little bit more here. In the case of President Yoon Suk Yeol, he has been accused of a rebellion case. That's why the police, the prosecution, and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit are all investigating the accusation case. How is it different?
[Jeongbin Seo]
In fact, the investigation may be conducted in duplicate like this. Of course, in the case of the prosecution, the right to investigate is currently limited, so in the case of such rebellion, in principle, it is not such a category to open an investigation. However, in the case of the prosecution, cases of abuse of authority of public officials can be handled, and cases that are directly related to this case can be investigated and investigated regardless of the subject. Therefore, there have been talks about whether the prosecution can investigate the crime of rebellion related to the case before reviewing the crime of rebellion on the internal network, and on the other hand, there have been talks about whether it is possible to investigate the crime of rebellion related to it. And in the end, the investigation is actually going on like this.
Therefore, in the end, in the face-to-face, the investigation was started not only on abuse of authority but also on rebellion, and in fact, the police, prosecutors, or the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit are the same, so there is no difference in content. In the end, in the case of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, there will be such a difference because it will be a limited situation due to any investigative personnel, but in terms of content, the actual investigation and the targets are almost the same. In the case of duplicate investigations, you can consult at first and cooperate a little bit with the investigation content to proceed with the investigation by dividing the field, or you can request that one side transfers the case in the middle. For example, in the case of the prosecution, you may ask the police to hand over the investigation of overlapping cases. I'm thinking that we'll actually have a discussion before going like that.
[Anchor]
Then at this time, we're delivering the facial expressions of the plenary session. I didn't care yet.Ma is minded at 5 p.m. And looking at the order, does the vote start with the Special Counsel Kim Act? That's right. Today, the impeachment bill of President Yoon and the Special Prosecutor's Act of Kim will be handled. In the case of President Yoon's impeachment, 191 independent lawmakers and the 6th party proposed at the dawn of the 5th. If two-thirds of the current lawmakers, or 200 out of 300, approve today, it will be passed. In the case of the First Lady Kim's Special Prosecutor Act, since it is a re-decision that has been returned with a veto, 150 members, must attend, and more than two-thirds of the lawmakers present must approve it. So, depending on how many people attend, the votes required for approval are different.
[Anchor]
Before voting on the impeachment motion, the first lady Kim's independent counsel law will be voted on, right?
[Working day]
Since the Special Prosecutor's Act of Mrs. Kim is re-decided, a majority of the registered members and two-thirds of the attendance can approve it. So if the power of the people does not go into the plenary session, the opposition party alone votes, so if all the people present agree, it will be passed.
[Anchor]
Mrs. Kim originally had a special prosecution on the 10th, but she pulled it.
[Work day]
That's the Democratic Party's strategy. If we vote together and do a special prosecution law, we just don't have to go into the people's power polling place. So, they used a strategy to make it inevitable to come in together. So, there is a saying that the First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act will be re-decided, voted down, and then the impeachment bill will be removed. No matter how much we decide against the party, we don't know who will do it because it's a secret ballot. So there's a saying that you're leaving to be safe. So, personally, I think the power of the people should also vote proudly. What is the most important duty of a Member of Parliament?
Isn't it the right to vote for deliberation? This is also something that I should do if I proudly vote and oppose it in good conscience, and even if some of the leave votes come out, shouldn't I leave it to each individual? I can say that, but from the perspective of the leadership of the People's Power, they may choose to re-vote the Special Prosecutor Act and leave because of something a little nervous.
[Anchor]
Attention is focusing on what kind of decisions the people's power will make. The left screen shows the front of the conference hall on the second floor of the National Assembly, where the National Assembly of the People's Power is being held. The screen on the right shows the screen of the plenary session at this time. Earlier, we briefly connected the rally site. I connected the Yeouido rally site, but the broadcast condition was uneven, so I couldn't connect the relay car. If the on-site screen is possible, please show it to me anytime. Can I see it? I can see it. I can see the scene right in front of the National Assembly. We're showing you the front of the Seoul National Assembly. There are quite a lot of people gathered. When the plenary session is held at 5 p.m. in a little while, it seems that people are gathering in accordance with the vote on the impeachment of President Yoon. As the voting time approaches, the size of the assembly is getting bigger and bigger.
The organizers estimate that 1 million people and the police estimate that tens of thousands of people are gathering in front of the National Assembly building in Yeouido to hold a large-scale rally. Since many citizens are gathered at the rally, they are passing through the National Assembly Station on Subway Line 9. I talked to lawyer Seo Jeong-bin earlier. Attorney Kim Sung-hoon is next to me now. You came a little late because of the heavy traffic today, but I heard you took Line 9?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. The traffic was so bad that I was on Line 9, but there were so many citizens heading to Yeouido on Line 9, so it was very crowded.
[Anchor]
I even delivered the expression in front of the National Assembly building. A vote on the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol will be held at 5 p.m. soon. As I told you now, you saw a large-scale civic group rally in front of the Capitol. I'm showing you the general meeting of the People's Power on the screen at this time. And in the breaking news that just came in, there is breaking news that the ruling party has confirmed the party's rejection of both the president's impeachment bill and the Kim Special Counsel Act. Even before the ruling party, it had expressed its rejection party, but as the voting time approached, it seems that it has been confirmed. It seems that the president's impeachment bill and the re-decision of the Kim Special Counsel Act were also confirmed by the rejection party.
Today, these two votes will take place in the plenary session at 5 o'clock. We will deliver related breaking news as soon as it comes in. Earlier, we talked about the impeachment motion. There are two possibilities now: the vote on the impeachment motion, the possibility that it will be passed, and the possibility that it will be voted down. If it passes, if it passes, the Constitutional Court will now judge it. But there are six constitutional judges in the Constitutional Court right now. There seems to be a legal controversy.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. First of all, the Constitutional Court is now hearing the impeachment trial. There are six people in quorum right now. Therefore, six quorum members can proceed with the hearing, but impeachment is only cited if all judges approve if the current composition is maintained. However, there are some variables, but if the recommendations and appointments to the Constitutional Court, which is currently vacant, are made through acting power, then the situation could be a little different.
[Anchor]
On the screen, we are showing you the view of Gwanghwamun in Seoul at this time. Large-scale rallies are also taking place in Yeouido. At this time, large-scale rallies are also taking place in Gwanghwamun. In a little while, at 5 o'clock, President Yoon will vote on the impeachment bill at the plenary session of the National Assembly, so we are showing a screen of such a large-scale rally at this time. Labor and civil society organizations are holding a national candlelight vigil in front of the National Assembly to step down from the Yoon Suk Yeol for rebellion. The screen is uneven right now. I showed you the appearance of Gwanghwamun.
The vote on the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol is now 5 o'clock. We have about 17 minutes left. There are many possibilities today. There is a possibility that the vote will pass, and it will be rejected again. The ruling party has just confirmed it as a rejection party. Of course, even if it is confirmed by the rejection party theory, it is possible to vote for departure as it is conducted as an anonymous secret ballot. Also, if there is no vote to leave and it is rejected, the Democratic Party plans to pursue it again immediately. What do you expect?
[Work day]
Literally, the Democratic Party will do it until it works. However, with the first impeachment motion proposed today, there are probably a lot of people who are very burdensome to pass it right away from the ruling party's point of view, no matter what the future is. Not everyone will be in the same position, and even if it is decided by party theory, the result cannot be guaranteed because it is a secret ballot. However, many people are watching the results of the impeachment in 2016, saying that from the party's point of view, the so-called ruling party and the so-called Conservative Party could be in a so-called destructive situation, and furthermore, the conservative camp could be in such a situation. If that happens, wouldn't an early presidential election be held if the impeachment is cited in the Constitutional Court without any other special variables? If there is no change in the current situation, we have no choice but to predict that representative Lee Jae-myung will become president. That's why there must be a lot of people who think that's also very burdensome.
Even if I vote in the first impeachment vote right now, I think there are not many people who can readily approve it, so I predict the rejection. However, as I said earlier, there is a lot of possibility that the leadership will make the choice not to vote just in case anything happens.
[Anchor]
Do you expect both President Yoon's impeachment and the Kim Special Counsel Act to be rejected?
[Work day]
Well, that's what I'm expecting at the moment.Ma, but I'm not sure about the Special Prosecutor Kim's Act. Isn't the Special Prosecutor Kim's Act the third re-decision? That's why many ruling party lawmakers should at least receive a special prosecutor for Kim. If you keep voting down like this without any alternative, veto it, and then reject it again, wouldn't there be people who ask the people, "What is your alternative?" Because of this, Kim should be independent counsel. Instead, he said, "Let's come up with an alternative to appoint a special prosecutor as a really neutral person through negotiations with the opposition party," but there has been no such talk until now. So, if I reject it again this time, I think it is desirable not to go only with the rejection, but to suggest an alternative to it from the power of the people.
[Anchor]
You're looking at the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. In a little while, there will be a re-decision on the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol and the Special Prosecutor's Act on Kim in the plenary session of the National Assembly. It will be passed only when 200 out of 2,300 members of the registered council agree. Therefore, if 108 members of the People's Power Party miss the plenary session or leave the impeachment bill in the middle, there is a possibility that the number of votes may not be checked. Currently, we are showing the appearance of the National Assembly and Gwanghwamun on the left and right sides of the screen at this time. The left side is the expression in front of the National Assembly. On the right is the expression of Gwanghwamun. You're watching the scene of the rally. You can see a lot of Taegeukgi at the Gwanghwamun rally on the right. It appears to be a rally of conservative groups.
[Anchor]
It shows the anti-impeachment rally at the same time. A lot of people are here now. There are some votes left for the vote to proceed, but it is 4:47 now with about 13 minutes left before the plenary session begins. Earlier, we also broadcast the Yeouido rally live at this time. You're also watching the Gwanghwamun rally scene. Currently, rallies for impeachment are taking place in Yeouido, including Gwanghwamun and the National Assembly. The plenary session of the National Assembly will be held at 5 p.m. soon. It is said that Mrs. Kim's independent counsel law will be decided first. In the case of the First Lady Kim's Special Prosecutor Act, the president's veto was exercised once. If passed, the bill will be promulgated immediately. By the way, is there a reason why the First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act was proposed first?
[Work day]
If the impeachment bill is voted on first, the ruling party does not have to come in. If it doesn't come in, it's automatically rejected and the vote is not established. If you do it later, you can come in then. If we re-decide on the Special Prosecutor's Office Act first, we can't help but come in, so we can come in and leave our seats again, but isn't that just a loss of shape? Even if the ruling party is absent, I think the opposition party strategically aimed at showing that.
[Anchor]
If all 300 members of Congress attend, the impeachment bill will be passed if more than 200 people approve. I'm continuing to deliver it to you.Ma depends on the 108 members of the People's Power, what decisions you make. That's right. Therefore, if all 108 members of the People's Power choose a strategy of not attending the plenary session or opting out only during the impeachment vote, there is a possibility that the number of votes will not be checked. In the case of the First Lady Kim's Special Prosecutor Act, it is a law that has returned to veto power, so it is approved only when more than two-thirds of the members present agree to the attendance of more than 150 members. So, depending on how many people attend, the votes required for approval are different. I'm telling you that the conditions for the approval of the two bills are different.
This morning, President Yoon Suk Yeol issued a public apology. He said he would not avoid legal and political responsibility, and that there would be no second martial law, and that he would appoint the party to manage the political situation, including the term of office. Today, five young lawmakers, including Kim Jae-sup and Kim Sang-wook, have issued statements, including an apology to the public and a statement that they will appoint them to the party on how to manage the political situation, including the term of office. He has expressed his position that he will oppose the impeachment bill only when the president apologizes and shortens his term of office. In a way, can I say that I accepted it?
[Work day]
Well, from that point of view, not only the young people, but the provincial governor's council, which belongs to the People's Power, officially expressed that position a few days ago. And there were many people who continued to express that position, including civil society organizations and opposition parties. What was lacking or disappointing in President Yoon Suk Yeol's statement today was that he would express his opinion on the future roadmap and discuss it with the ruling party. If he had said that he would discuss the impeachment bill with the ruling party, it would be much better for the ruling party and other people to think that even if he does not impeach him this time, his term will be shortened and the transfer of power will be carried out smoothly.
In any case, many such stories are being publicized in the ruling party, so if the impeachment bill is rejected, the way to resolve the confusion is to quickly reveal the roadmap and schedule for the shortening of the term and such mentioned earlier to the public.
[Anchor]
Rep. Cho Kyung-tae, who expressed his opinion in favor of impeachment, came out with a change of stance, but did representative Han Dong-hoon's opinion reflect?
[Workday]
You could say that, and some ruling parties said that. In order to oppose the impeachment bill, President Yoon said that he needs to make a minimum apology or express his position, but from our personal point of view and from a neutral point of view, we can say that the apology statement was very insufficient, but from the point of view of the ruling party members, it was the least justification. That's why you apologized. And didn't you leave the future schedule to the ruling party? It was the least justification for saying, "I will oppose this impeachment." I don't think they felt it was enough for themselves. However, since he made a statement and apologized, let's accept it and vote down this impeachment bill, I think this was the justification.
[Anchor]
I will ask lawyer Kim Sung-hoon about various legal issues. First of all, in order to shorten the term, President Yoon Suk Yeol said he would leave all the matters of term to the ruling party. In order to shorten the term of office, there will have to be a constitutional amendment. Also, impeachment could shorten the term of office. Is the only way to shorten the term of office other than impeachment the only way is to amend the constitution?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
It's a political act, but it's white. In fact, shortening the term of office through constitutional amendment after constitutional amendment means that shortening the term of office through constitutional amendment means not shortening the term. In practice, in the case of voluntarily stepping down from his position in the state of making a constitutional amendment to change the current form of the presidential system in a certain way at a specific time. If so, it can be seen as a practical reduction in term.
However, if not, I think there are many possibilities for now because no specific details have been presented on how to shorten the term at all, whether it is simply to shorten his term, or to make a change in the president's term itself under the constitution.
[Anchor]
So, for example, if a constitutional amendment is made to a four-year two-term system, did you say that there is a way to resign as soon as the constitutional amendment to the two-term system is completed?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
To be precise, a constitutional amendment does not mean that the current president's term will be shortened or that something is concluded. In that regard, apart from how to make a new presidential term, I think it is difficult to exist in reality other than impeachment by making a decision on one's own.
[Anchor]
Then, there are methods such as resignation, constitutional amendment, and impeachment, so how will the next presidential election be held differently depending on each method?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
Basically, in the case of impeachment, as we've just seen, the office is suspended according to impeachment. And if the Constitutional Court is finally dismissed according to the conclusion of the impeachment trial, then the new presidential election schedules will proceed accordingly. This is actually unfortunate for us, but we've experienced it once in the past. Next, if you go down, it can be called Yugo. Since there is no presidential office, it can be seen that it is necessary to plan and prepare the presidential election schedule accordingly. However, if the term of office is changed through constitutional amendment, I think it will be very different depending on the content and method of constitutional amendment. Above all, the process of making a constitutional amendment itself can take quite a long time because it is absolutely not necessary to make decisions in the political world.
[Anchor]
What do you think Professor Noh Dong-il?
[Work day]
Attorney Kim said earlier that if a constitutional amendment is made to shorten the term, it will not actually shorten the term, but that is a bit objectionable. Because there has been no time in the administration that we have not talked about constitutional amendment. However, there are a lot of amendments to the constitution. So it's easy to choose from in no time. There are too many elections because what is usually said is changing to a four-year two-term system and it is different from the presidential election, general election, and general election in Korea. There will be another by-election in the middle, so let's hold the presidential election with the branch line. Let's make it a four-year term. There is usually a consensus on these things, as is civic groups. Ando also has a lot of things that have been actually made in the National Assembly.
That's why I'm unhappy with this situation, but I think that's what can be a happy ending. South Korea, where presidential impeachment has become commonplace, is this okay? Isn't it already the third time? The opposition party has been talking a lot about preventing things that end unfortunately in such an extraordinary situation. You can nail the supplementary provisions such as when the term of office will be held or when the next presidential election will be held. Even if it's next year, we have to go through a referendum right away, but that's something that can be quickly decided. So the presidential election is held on August 25, and that's when it starts.
[Anchor]
Wait a minute. The Democratic Party is explaining the results of the general election. Let's listen to it.
[Interview]
Next, the impeachment motion of the Yoon Suk Yeol will proceed. In the re-decision of the special prosecutor Kim Gun-hee, there will be no pros and cons. Regarding impeachment, I think it was said that there was no proceeding statement, but only explanation of the proposal. As you know, the vote will be completed by 12:30 today because we will have anonymous and handwritten votes and we have to complete the vote within 72 hours.
At the general meeting of lawmakers today, they said they decided to reject the Kim Gun-hee Special Counsel Act and the impeachment bill of the Yoon Suk Yeol, but they gathered opinions from various lawmakers on how to respond on the spot. The situation on the ground is so fluid that we will proceed according to the guidelines of our floor leadership on the floor. Today, the People's Power decided to reject both the Kim Gun-hee Special Counsel Act and the Yoon Suk Yeol's impeachment. As a result, the power of the people has become an unconstitutional party and a party that sympathizes with civil war, and that's how we judge it. Representative Han Dong-hoon also representative of People's Power Han Dong-hoon
[Anchor]
Yoon Jong-gun's floor spokesman explained. He said that he discussed measures for the people's power to decide on the rejection position through the party's theory. He also strongly criticized that the power of the people set by the rejection party theory is an unconstitutional party.
[Anchor]
It's 4:59 now. Originally scheduled, the plenary session will begin at 5 p.m. soon. The plenary session begins today when Chairman Woo Won-sik declares his mind a little later. First, there will be a report from the director of the doctor's office. Today, the Democratic Party of Korea also reported the impeachment of Lee Sang-min, the Minister of Public Administration and Security. He proposed the second impeachment. Now, it is expected that Kim Gun-hee will propose a vote on the re-examination of the Special Prosecutor's Act. You're looking at the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time.
I don't think I can see the ruling party lawmakers yet. It shows the Democratic Party members sitting down first. You're watching a Democratic Party member sit down. I haven't declared that I don't care yet.
Following the declaration of interest, there is a possibility that there will be a statement of proceedings before the vote begins after the re-decision of the Special Prosecutor Kim Gun-hee Act is proposed. Do you think there will be a debate about the pros and cons? I see National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik now. the seventeenth plenary session After a few moments with the declaration of interest, the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol. In addition, the re-decision of the Special Prosecutor's Act on Mrs. Kim is expected to take place soon. Lawmakers are sitting down one after another. The scheduled start time of the plenary session is now 5 o'clock. The ruling party of the Democratic Party is an unconstitutional party. I just made a statement that I was judged to be a party of sympathy. I see National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik now.
I think I'll make a declaration in a little while. You are looking at the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. It has not yet been confirmed whether all lawmakers are seated. He's holding a picket right now. I'm holding a hand sign. I also see a ruling party lawmaker now. I also see Rep. Na Kyung-won. We are hearing the loud voices of the ruling and opposition party members. I see a picket protest by progressive lawmakers now. National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik will declare his mind shortly. It's about 5:02 now. People's Power lawmakers and Democrats. I've been holding a gun since this morning. The power of the people decided to reject it through party theory. You just heard the Democratic Party's criticism of
. Let's listen to it. This is the remarks of National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
Since I said this, it will be delivered.
[Anchor]
People's Power appeared to protest against the opposition lawmakers' picketing a while ago, and it seems to be a statement related to that. I can hear the loud voices of the ruling and opposition parties. National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik seems to be mediating. There will be a declaration of concern from the Speaker of the National Assembly shortly.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
I told you last time, too.How does Ma maintain the order of the plenary session? It's a measure of democracy in the country. So, Korea is a democracy that is really proud of compared to any other country. And didn't we see the resilience of democracy here, too? So let's not talk too much and let's talk and discuss enough with each other and make decisions one by one. Please arrange your seats. I'll mind the 17th plenary session because I've been a member. I'll have a report from the director of the doctor's office.
[Interview]
Let me tell you the report. On December 6, 169 people, including Park Chan-dae, announced that it would be a request for the 419th National Assembly Extraordinary Meeting and that it would be held from December 11. On December 7, 170 people, including Representative Kim Min-seok, proposed the impeachment of Lee Sang-min, the Minister of Public Administration and Security. Representative Lee In-young proposed 71 bills, including a special bill on the attribution of pro-Japanese anti-national actors to the state, and a partial revision of the Act on the Promotion of Employment of Persons with Disabilities and Direct Rehabilitation, proposed by Representative Jeong Hee-yong. Other details will be posted in the minutes. This is the end of the report.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
Let me tell you what I said before the agenda was put forward. Today's plenary session will deal with two agendas. The re-deliberation of the bill on the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate the stock price manipulation case of Yoon Suk Yeol's spouse, Kim Gun-hee, and the impeachment of the presidential Yoon Suk Yeol. Armed martial law forces entered the National Assembly on the night of the 3rd. The National Assembly resolved to lift martial law in an orderly manner in accordance with constitutional procedures and lifted the emergency martial law.
And today, as I came into the plenary session, I read again the oath of the Members of Parliament that I took here on September 2nd, together with the Members of Parliament. I would like to share that with Members. I solemnly swear before the people that I will abide by the Constitution, strive for the promotion of freedom and welfare of the people, peaceful unification of my country, put the interests of the state first, and faithfully perform the duties of the National Assembly in accordance with my conscience. the first section of the agenda We propose a reconsideration of the bill on the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate the fact of the stock price manipulation case of Yoon Suk Yeol's spouse, Kim Gun-hee.
This agenda is to review the reconsideration of the bill, which the National Assembly voted on November 14 and transferred to the government, as the president requested reconsideration in accordance with Article 53 (2) of the Constitution on November 26. On behalf of the Prime Minister who was absent today, the Minister of Justice will explain the reasons for the request for reconsideration.
[Park Sungjae / Minister of Justice]
Honourable Speaker of the National Assembly, Mr. Woo Won-sik, and Members. Briefly explain the government's position on the bill on the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate the stock price manipulation case of Kim Gun-hee, the spouse of President Kim Yoon Suk Yeol, which the president demanded on November 26, 2024.
[Won-sik/Speaker of the National Assembly]
Please stop it for a moment. Congressman Yong Hye-in, do you broadcast on YouTube? It's supposed to be done only if you get permission in advance, so please stop it. Keep going on.
[Park Sungjae / Minister of Justice]
I'd like to briefly explain the government's position. This bill has so far lacked measures to correct the reasons for unconstitutionality in terms of what the government has pointed out as reasons for unconstitutionality. First of all, I would like to say that a third-party recommendation by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, which is known to have been introduced to recover the violation of the principle of separation of powers in the existing special prosecution bill, may still violate the principle of separation of powers. Since the stock price manipulation case is currently under trial at the Supreme Court, the head of the Supreme Court, who is in charge of the trial of related cases, recommending candidates for special prosecutors related to the investigation of related cases may be directly contrary to the principle of separation of powers.
In particular, the opposition party can exercise its right to veto indefinitely until the opposition party's desired candidate is recommended if the candidate recommended by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is inappropriate, which is no different from giving the opposition party the right to recommend the special counsel candidate only. In addition, the bill is likely to violate the principle of supplementality and exceptionalism, which is the essence of the special prosecutor system pointed out when demanding a re-decision, as well as problems that undermine fairness, which is the basic principle of our judicial system, and violate the human rights of the people and waste precious taxpayers' money. Members, I earnestly ask that you consider these points deeply and look again at the problems of this bill.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
Members, be quiet. Members. Be quiet. Please listen to my story.
[Park Sungjae / Minister of Justice]
Thank you.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
Then, I will vote on this issue in an anonymous manner in accordance with Article 112 (5) of the National Assembly Act. Please have a seat. Please have a seat. And I would like to inform you that this agenda is resolved with the approval of a majority of the members present and more than two-thirds of the members present in accordance with Article 53 (4) of the Constitution. Then, I will nominate a member of the commutation committee in accordance with Article 114 (2) of the National Assembly Act. Rep.
Rep. Kim Dong-ha, Rep. Kim Yong-man, Rep. Mo Kyung-jong, Rep. Baek Seung-ah, Rep. Seo Ji-young, Rep. Yoo Yong-won, Rep. Lee Jong-ok, and Rep. Joo Jin-woo. The eight above will work hard. Member for California for California, please come to the seat of California. I will start voting right after I have an explanation from the Director of Physicians on how to vote.
[Interview]
Let me explain how to vote. After receiving the nameplate and ballot, those who favor the bill can write in Korean or Chinese characters, and those who oppose the bill can write their wealth in the blank of the ballot. Please note that if you mark any characters or symbols other than A or Boo, they will be invalidated, and if you do not mark any on your ballot, they will be treated as abstentions. That's the end of the explanation and we'll start voting.
[Anchor]
The independent counsel law has begun to be voted again. There was an explanation from the chairman of the National Assembly. The resolution requirement is to be passed immediately if two-thirds of the lawmakers present approve it. It is approved only when more than two-thirds of the lawmakers present approve the attendance of more than 150 members, which is the majority of the registered members, but the number of people present has not yet been confirmed. Depending on how many people attend, the votes required for approval are different. Because it's a re-decision by coming back to the veto. First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act, the third re-decision is underway. This vote is anonymous. Because it's a handwritten vote, you're going to vote in line like that at the voting booth. A, Boo. Go for it, go for it, and the opposite is done by handwriting. Since it's an anonymous vote, you're watching them stand in line and vote one by one. When voting
, put the plaque in the plaque and the ballot in the ballot box and proceed. In order to check how many lawmakers participated in the vote and whether they voted one by one, the vote is carried out by putting the plaque on the plaque box. Mrs. Kim's special prosecutor's law is being voted on again. When the results come out, we will deliver them live, but let's look at the Special Prosecutor Kim's Act first. Regarding the Kim Special Prosecutor Act, this is the third special prosecutor law proposed by Kim. It is said that this is a special law that is somewhat strengthened compared to the first, second, and third.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. In a situation where proposals were continuously made and re-discussed after the veto, the contents were changed little by little. In addition, there is a little more information about the suspicions and contents related to the situation. So, it led to the current legislation. As you said earlier, there is a concept of enrollment and attendance. If two-thirds of the 300 members of the National Assembly are registered, 200 out of 300 members can pass two-thirds of the attendance if they vote again when requested to reconsider the special prosecution law.
[Anchor]
Earlier, Justice Minister Park Sung-jae explained the reason for the request for reconsideration, and there was a lack of corrective measures for unconstitutional reasons. I explained that it violated the principle of separation of power. At the same time, he explained that it violated the principle of separation of powers because the related trial of the stock price manipulation case is underway, so please solve it in detail.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
Basically, after the prosecution has been filed, the judicial evaluation of the case is being conducted through a trial by the judiciary, and it was pointed out that there is a problem with the investigation through a separate special prosecutor in relation to the situation in which the trial is already underway. However, rather than the fundamental background and purpose of the proposed special prosecution law affecting the trial itself, it is now the opinion of the proposition that there are parts that conduct additional special prosecution investigations on areas that are not revealed in the trial itself or have not been properly prosecuted and investigated.
[Anchor]
However, the investigation has not been carried out properly in the opposition party. Isn't it an argument that an independent counsel is needed to conduct a more objective investigation into the investigation now?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. In the end, there is room for conflicts of interest, so if there are parts of the investigation process itself that cannot be investigated properly, it is a basic principle that an independent investigation body needs to investigate this part. The core purpose of this is not that it is currently being reviewed judicially, but rather that the parts that have not been reviewed judicially or have not been investigated properly are the main targets of the investigation.
[Anchor]
Was it also included in the recent suspicion of involvement in the nomination of Myung Tae-kyun?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
Yes, it can be said that those contents are included this time. It can be said that the parts that have been added and confirmed are the requests for additional investigations into the parts where the suspicion is added.
[Anchor]
The Democratic Party of Korea has already announced its plan to reissue the Kim Special Prosecutor Act if it is rejected this time. There seems to be a commotion in the National Assembly right now. There seems to have been a verbal dispute between ruling and opposition lawmakers during the voting process for the plenary session. There's a lot of verbal bickering and shouting. Currently, we are showing the situation of the National Assembly's re-voting of the Special Prosecutor's Office Act Kim Gun-hee. Since it's anonymous and handwritten voting, we're showing you how to stand in line and vote. It is reported that it will take about 25 minutes more. I think we can let you know the results in about 25 minutes. After the results of the re-vote of the First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act are released, the National Assembly Speaker will announce it. Then there will be a vote on the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol.
We are currently voting in line at the voting booth. As soon as the end of the vote is declared, the count will begin. After checking the number of plaques, if there is no abnormality, the ticket will be engraved. We will deliver the results of the vote as soon as they come out. Justice Minister Park Sung-jae also said this while explaining the demand for reconsideration. He pointed out that the problem is that the opposition party only gave the right to recommend candidates for the special prosecution because of the opposition party's non-soil clause.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
Basically, the right to reject a specific special prosecutor's candidate is the right to reject it. Given that the purpose of the special prosecutor is to investigate the president's spouse, who is currently serving as the head of the administration, there can be big differences in that part because it is the special prosecutor who chose a candidate that may not be objectively in conflict of interest or made a candidate that may not be in conflict of interest.
[Anchor]
Roh Moo-il, the chief editorial writer, said, "The first lady's independent counsel law has now been proposed for the third time and a re-vote is underway. Both the ruling and opposition parties said earlier that they should come up with more improvement plans. Please emphasize it one more time.
[Work day]
From the perspective of the opposition party and the Democratic Party, if you really want to get to the bottom of this, what does it matter if someone becomes the special prosecutor? Isn't it so? The special prosecutor recommended by the Democratic Party will investigate hard, and the special prosecutor recommended by anyone other than the Democratic Party will not investigate? Can you see it like that? Usually, you have to appoint a person who meets the requirements of legal professionals, but he has experience in investigation. No matter who appoints such a person, the police and prosecution have continued to investigate suspicions about Kim Gun-hee's stock price manipulation, and there are many data. After reviewing such things, we will investigate insufficient or incomplete areas, but I don't know why they insist on such things that must reflect the Democratic Party's position.
That's a little bit... There's definitely something that the Democratic Party of Korea doesn't understand whether this really wants to reveal suspicions of stock price manipulation or end up with a political offensive. From the ruling party's point of view, it's not just the Democratic Party's political offensive that keeps talking about this, is it? The prosecution had it for so long, and at the end, they were not prosecuted for dubious reasons, but if the prosecution is right, wouldn't the ruling party be like that now? If the prosecution investigated properly and did not indict an innocent person, of course, it shouldn't be said to investigate an innocent person, but there is such suspicion. If it hasn't been investigated for that long, let's appoint a really neutral special prosecutor and reinvestigate it. And let's clear everything, why don't we clean up the suspicions?
But I don't understand why they only insist on their own positions. If this part is rejected today, the Democratic Party of Korea will issue another resolution, right? Since the Democratic Party of Korea says it will do this until it is possible, if this is a big obstacle to the political situation, the ruling party should also take a position to clean up, so we should take a neutral position through negotiations with the Democratic Party and a positive and forward-looking position such as recommended by the chairman of the Korean Bar Association.
[Anchor]
Re-decision of the Special Prosecutor's Law for First Lady Kim. The anonymous voting is underway. I think the plenary session of the National Assembly is quite noisy right now. It's news that the People's Power lawmakers are leaving after the vote on the Special Prosecutor's Law for Kim Gun-hee. In this regard, I think there's a loud voice coming and going. In the end, two-thirds of the registered lawmakers must vote for the first lady's independent counsel law and vote for the president's impeachment, so if 108 people leave, they will not be able to fill two-thirds of the registered lawmakers.
That's right. As we said earlier, if the ruling party chooses to skip the plenary session or leave the party only during the impeachment vote, there is a possibility that it will not be able to check the number of votes. This could be the situation, right? I'll give it to you again. Kim Gun-hee is re-voting the Special Prosecutor Act. People's Power lawmakers are leaving after the re-voting of the First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act. So you're not going to vote on President Yoon's impeachment? That's right. Due to the structure of the seats, the total number of opposition seats is 192. There are 108 seats in the ruling party. So I told you earlier that eight votes were needed to pass the agenda. If all 108 lawmakers are absent, they will not be able to vote at all because they do not reach the 200 quorum for President Yoon's impeachment. We can't even vote at all and there may be a rejection.
Earlier, among the ruling party lawmakers, Rep. Ahn Cheol Soo and Rep. Cho Kyung-tae expressed their approval. However, Representative Cho Kyung-tae, who expressed his approval, has turned against impeachment at the National Assembly this morning, and Representative Ahn Cheol Soo said he would vote for it if the schedule for his resignation was not announced before the vote. You are seeing Supreme Council member Kim Min-seok strongly protesting and criticizing. There is a breaking news that lawmakers of the People's Power are leaving after voting for the Special Prosecutor's Act on Kim Gun-hee. There's a lot of shouting about this right now. It shows the Democratic Party members strongly protesting on the screen.
The power of the people, we held a meeting this morning as well. I also held a gun in the afternoon. People's Power, news reports say they have decided not to participate in the vote on President Yoon's impeachment. Then what happens to the vote on the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol at 5 p.m. today? If only 192 registered lawmakers are sitting in that seat if they agree with at least two-thirds of the registered lawmakers now, the vote itself cannot be established?
[Work day]
If the number of people present is less than 2,200, the vote will not be established at all.
[Anchor]
So the vote itself doesn't go ahead? If so, the Democratic Party has already said that if the impeachment motion is rejected, the Democratic Party will push again. I can see a Ahn Cheol Soo now. Representative Ahn Cheol Soo seems to be currently waiting for a vote on the first lady Kim's independent counsel law. First of all, Senator Ahn Cheol Soo has said that he will continue to vote for it. Including the Kim Gun-hee Special Counsel Act, the impeachment of Yoon Suk Yeol President. And in particular, in the case of the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol, he said he would approve it if the schedule for his resignation was not announced before the vote, but the schedule for his resignation is not specific. Member for Ahn Cheol Soo is likely to remain. Currently, Joo Ho-young and Yoon Sang-hyun of the ruling party are seen. Representative Yoon Sung-hyun previously said that the Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor's Act would also go against the opposition party, and of course, President Yoon's impeachment bill was also opposed.
I don't think all the ruling party members are leaving. Looking at it now, there's Rep. Bae Hyun-jin. It's not clear whether we've voted or sat in the voting table. Now, there are Democratic Party lawmakers and representative Lee Jae-myung. We also see Representative Lee Eon-joo. According to the breaking news, the power of the people has decided not to vote on President Yoon's impeachment. It is breaking news that the vote on President Yoon's impeachment will take place after the result of the re-voting of the First Lady Kim's independent counsel law is still in progress.
I just showed you the appearance of lawmaker Ahn Cheol Soo. Now, we are showing Democratic lawmakers sitting down. This is the appearance of the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. I can see the ruling party members now. You're watching Representative Ahn Cheol Soo and Representative Yoon Sang-hyun talking. Representative Ahn Cheol Soo just voted on the Kim Special Counsel Act. Representative Ahn Cheol Soo will vote in favor if the resignation schedule is not announced before the vote. He said he would vote in favor of President Yoon's impeachment. Now, we have finished voting on the Special Prosecutor's Law for Kim Gun-hee.
In the midst of the turbulent political situation, the whole nation is now paying attention to the results of the impeachment motion of President Yoon Suk Yeol, and they must be gathered in front of the TV to watch the results. According to the breaking news you hear now, the power of the people has decided not to vote on President Yoon's impeachment. If so, there is a possibility that the two-thirds of the registered lawmakers, who are a quorum for voting on impeachment, may not be satisfied. There are 108 members of the People's Power. In total, 191 opposition lawmakers have left the party, and lawmaker Woo Won-sik has left the party. Attention is now focused on whether or not we have eight votes for the departure of the people's power, but if all the members of the people's power leave like this, it will be meaningless to count the departure votes for President Yoon's impeachment. It's because it doesn't reach the quorum. There is a breaking news that the power of the people has decided.
We are reporting that Kim Gun-hee is leaving after voting for the Special Counsel Act. Earlier, the power of the people opened up the gun. At around 4:40 p.m., I entered the plenary hall after the results of the general meeting, and I broke the news that the results of the general meeting were adopted as the party's rejection of both the First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act and the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol. The ruling party, lawmaker Park Jung-ha, and lawmaker In Yo-han are now seen. It has not been confirmed whether these lawmakers have completed the Special Counsel Act on First Lady Kim or not yet voted. Now, the majority of ruling party lawmakers are leaving after voting on the Kim Special Counsel Act. I see lawmaker Joo Jin-woo. You are looking at the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. Earlier, Roh Dong-il, the chief editorial writer, said, "Shouldn't we vote confidently?" But now, the ruling party seems to have decided to leave after voting on the Kim Special Counsel Act?
[Work day]
As I said earlier, it's not that I didn't understand the ruling party's position, but I think it's all about voting proudly. And didn't you decide on the rejection party? You don't trust the lawmakers even after deciding on the rejection party? Then why do you decide on the party line? Of course, there is no point in determining the party's theory. I think it's to the extent that we don't decide on a party line, but since we have a practice now in our country, we should trust the lawmakers if we decide on a party line. And I don't know how many votes will come out, but if it was rejected, how can I guarantee that only the ruling party opposed it? I don't think any opposition from the DP to any other opposition parties voted against it? That's not right. I can't guarantee it. Even so, I can confidently vote on why the ruling party opposes it and say it properly.
[Anchor]
191 people proposed the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol. It includes most opposition lawmakers.
[Work day]
That's why it's just signing the proposal anyway. Isn't it different from actually voting? I'm cautious, but as I said earlier, if the political schedule proceeds as it is, it is almost a fixed decision for Lee Jae-myung to become the next president, but isn't there a member of the Democratic Party who opposes it? I think it's basically about voting for that.
[Anchor]
Looking at it at this time, it seems like I'm opening the ballot box, right? The vote on the Special Prosecutor's Law for Mrs. Kim has been completed. I think the deduction will proceed now. Hand writing each one of them. . . That's right, I think the vote is over. The vote on the Special Prosecutor's Law for Mrs. Kim is over. The results will be announced soon. Currently, many lawmakers have left because they have decided not to vote on President Yoon's impeachment. However, there are breaking news that some lawmakers remain in the plenary session even after the vote. It is expected that we will see the results of the Special Prosecutor's Law on Mrs. Kim. After the results of the independent counsel law vote on Kim Gun-hee, there will be a vote on the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol. I'm still giving it to you.
There is a news report that members of the People's Power are leaving the plenary session immediately after voting for the Special Prosecutor's Act on Kim Gun-hee. If there is no abnormality after checking the number of plaques like this, the process of classifying the tickets will continue. Strangely few people, sometimes this problem occurs. If so, there is a possibility that it will take time to read or not. It appears that you are sorting the tables now.
[Anchor]
Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel law was first proposed, followed by the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol, but after this order was set, there was a possibility that the ruling party could actually vote on Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel law and leave without voting on President Yoon Suk Yeol's impeachment.
[Work day]
In the past, the quorum of decisions is established, so more than a half of the registered members are present, so you can vote, but if you don't meet the quorum, the quorum is two-thirds of the registered members, so you don't count the votes and declare that the vote will not be established.
[Anchor]
For now, the meeting can go ahead because we've filled the quorum. You organized it well. I also see lawmaker Kim Eun-hye now. Only some ruling party lawmakers remain in the National Assembly now. The majority of the People's Power lawmakers have left. Only some lawmakers of the People's Power remain in the plenary session after the vote on the Special Prosecutor Kim Act. Many lawmakers have left because most of them have decided to boycott the vote on President Yoon's impeachment. If more than two-thirds of the lawmakers present approve the attendance of more than 150 lawmakers, which is the majority of the special prosecutor Kim's law, it will be approved. So, depending on how many people were present today, the votes required for approval are different. Members are watching right now.
The results will be announced soon. After the vote on the first lady Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel law, the impeachment bill of President Yoon Suk Yeol will now be presented and voted on. Since there is a news report that the power of the people has decided to leave after voting on the Special Counsel Kim Act, even if the vote is actually held, without confirming the number of votes cast.
[Work day]
Since the quorum of votes is two-thirds of the registered members. If it's less than that... we can vote, but if it's less than two-thirds, we don't count the votes.
[Anchor]
In the meantime, there have been observations that if the People's Power lawmakers vote, the party will be opposed, but since it is conducted as a secret ballot, there may be a vote of departure. I think it's a strategy to prevent the departure vote from coming out at all. I think I'm bringing another ballot box with me now. The vote count of the Special Prosecutor Kim Gun-hee Act is continuing. I'm taking a deduction right now. the impeachment motion of the President of Yoon Suk Yeol It was three nights. There was a declaration of emergency martial law. There was a release the next day. The very next day, the 6th night party submits the impeachment motion. And on the 5th, the next day, the impeachment bill was reported to the National Assembly, and a vote on the impeachment will be held today.
The vote will be held as soon as the result of the re-vote of the first lady Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel law is released soon, but from the current situation, it seems to be virtually impossible to pass. The power of the people, we continue to report the news that we have decided not to vote on President Yoon's impeachment. This morning, President Yoon Suk Yeol issued a public apology. He said he would not shy away from legal and political responsibility, and this martial law would have no second martial law.He said he would entrust the party with the plan to operate the political situation, including the term of office. The term of office problem is interpreted as including shortening the term of office. Constitutional amendment to shorten the term of office, right? And then there's three things: resignation and impeachment. Hold on, I think I'm counting down right now.
[Anchor]
The work is being done to classify the handwritten tables one by one.
[Work day]
The white one was used for voting and the one used for or not. That's to check the nameplate. That's because that number has to match.
[Anchor]
It's written on the green paper. It was written whether it was done or not, and the plaque was written on a white paper earlier.
[Work day]
It's checking the name and the ballot separately.
[Anchor]
You're just checking the numbers, because it's anonymous. Chairman Woo Won-sik will announce the results of the vote shortly. As you said, President Yoon issued an apology at 10 a.m. four days after martial law was declared. The declaration of emergency martial law came out of desperation as president. However, in the process, he announced a public statement that he was very sorry for the inconvenience to the people. In response, it is impossible for representative Han Dong-hoon and president of the People's Power to perform their duties normally. He said the president's early resignation is inevitable. Lee Jae-myung, chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea, is very disappointed with the president's statement. He also criticized it as saying that it is a remark that does not meet the public's eye level and raises anger. CEO Han Dong-hoon talked about the need for an early resignation. But what other way is there to step down early?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
As I said earlier, basically, forcing the suspension of duties by law is an ongoing impeachment. As I said earlier, there are two things that follow: the self-retirement. I don't think constitutional amendment is a way to step down early. The constitutional amendment can be literally added as a supplementary provision as explained earlier while changing the constitution and changing the term of office, but the process of constitutional amendment does not require the president to decide on the constitutional amendment, but basically requires the consent of two-thirds of the lawmakers.
[Anchor]
Wait a minute.
[Won-sik/Speaker of the National Assembly]
I don't know where you are, but please sit down until this agenda is processed.
[Anchor]
The chairman of the National Assembly appealed to me to sit down until the result of the vote comes out because I keep voting and leaving. Please keep telling me.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
In the end, even if a constitutional amendment is made, more than two-thirds of the lawmakers must finally agree on what to do about the constitutional amendment and its contents. Therefore, then there are political consensus processes in which the ruling and opposition parties agree on specific details. The independent counsel law for Kim Gun-hee itself is not passing because there is no agreement.
[Won-Sik Woo/Speaker of the National Assembly]
I'll tell you the results of the vote later.
[Anchor]
Say it once again, please.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
In conclusion, it is quite difficult to make and pass a bill, but the ruling and opposition parties agree on the constitutional bill to amend the constitution, and there is no real possibility that it will be short-lived. Even if it all passes, the physical actual period is at least 110 days.
[Anchor]
Then, there are actually two things: impeachment and resignation, but the impeachment bill has been decided by rejection. The power of the people. Then, the only thing I can do is to be white, but I'm not white right now, if you listen to President Yoon Suk Yeol's position. It doesn't include the expression "Haya" at all. So what does it mean? Early resignation. CEO Han Dong-hoon said early retirement was necessary.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
So, in conclusion, even if the presidential system itself is changed or he resigns, a certain point will be set. This alone does not say what kind of early resignation we are going to have and how we are going to solve this legal problem and political turmoil now.
[Anchor]
It's a little hard to predict because there's no precedent right now. What do you think of the chief editorial writer of the labor day? CEO Han Dong-hoon is in the position that early retirement is necessary. However, according to the party's rejection of the impeachment bill, the power of the people is expected to leave without voting.
[Work day]
I'm not sure exactly what CEO Han Dong-hoon was thinking. I vehemently avoid mentioning the word impeachment, so as you said, how to do it, early withdrawal. I can't think of what I'm talking about right now. So I want you to clarify your exact position on that, basically. And even when representative Han Dong-hoon met with President Yoon Suk Yeol, for example, the perception of declaring emergency martial law still remains unchanged. Even if I listened to the conversation earlier, the emergency martial law came out of desperation. But I'm sorry for the inconvenience to the people. I said that.
So I think that's still not changing. Emergency martial law had no choice but to do it. That perception was inevitable. But what the people are asking for is not whether to declare a second martial law or not. Why did you make such a judgment at first, and if there is a local war now, or if the unrest is spreading very widely, that is what the emergency constitution establishes. There may be disagreements about whether it is an emergency that corresponds to the requirement to declare an emergency.
But there is little disagreement about this emergency. From the standpoint of the general public as well as jurists and legal experts, what kind of engagement and wartime emergency is this? I wanted to hear an apology for that because I've been thinking a lot that this isn't right. However, I know that President Yoon Suk Yeol and CEO Han Dong-hoon have different perceptions from each other. In what way, the president and himself can't agree without saying that the president of Yoon Suk Yeol took over no matter how much representative Han Dong-hoon talks, right? After adjusting that position, I think a specific position will come out. I think it is necessary to clarify the specific position that is clear in any way, if the suspension of his job is necessary, and if the early resignation is necessary, it is necessary to clarify his position.
[Anchor]
After the president's apology to the public, he is interpreting the contents of his apology in detail. There are many interpretations because no specific details have been released. Can you interpret the part that you expressed that you will entrust the party with the stabilization plan of the political situation in the future, including the term of office, as saying that you leave everything to the party, including the term of office?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
I don't know if this expression itself is actually appropriate. Because it basically has the authority of the president, the responsibility of the president, the duty and responsibility and authority as a constitutional guardian of the constitution, and the authority of the Armed Forces. How do you leave this to a particular political party? Secondly, what we have now caused is not to apologize or make such demands for rude talk cases. Basically, he said he would not hesitate to take legal and political responsibility for the president, who is the final bastion of the Constitution, but the legal responsibility here is the crime of rebellion in the case now accused.
[Anchor]
It seems that the vote on the Special Prosecutor's Law for Mrs. Kim Gun-hee is over.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
The Minister of Justice didn't come in after all. In principle, when dealing with the agenda in the National Assembly, it is the attitude toward the people that the State Council members are in place. In fact, the prime minister has to come today, but if he came instead after asking for understanding due to pending state affairs, he has to fulfill his responsibilities as a member of the State Council, but to go in the middle like this is to ignore the National Assembly, and to ignore the representative agency of the people, the National Assembly, is to ignore the people. The Speaker of the National Assembly also felt really angry that the National Assembly was violated by a gunfire a few days ago, but the members of the State Council should not continue to do this. It's arrogant, it's ignoring the National Assembly, it's ignoring the people.
The National Assembly will take appropriate action for not fulfilling its responsibilities today. Let me tell you the results of the vote. The re-deliberation of the bill on the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate the facts of the stock price manipulation case of Yoon Suk Yeol's spouse, Kim Gun-hee, is declared to have been rejected with 198 votes and 102 votes. Decision Paragraph 2 Presents the impeachment motion of the Presidential Yoon Suk Yeol.
[Anchor]
As a result of the re-voting of the Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act, 198 votes were in favor and 102 votes were rejected. There are six votes left.
[Work day]
It's a close call, really.
[Anchor]
There are six votes left. You are watching the citizens who participated in the Gwanghwamun rally on the right. On the left, you are looking at the citizens who participated in the Yeouido rally. As the news of the rejection is reported now, it is reported as a Gwanghwamun rally and a conservative group's rally, but you seem to be welcoming it, right? [Anchor] Among the ruling party lawmakers, Ahn Cheol Soo remains, but the rest of them are leaving. Democratic Party members are strong, and Joo Ho-young is seen among the ruling party members. Member for Ahn Cheol Soo is also sitting down. 300 people voted, with 198 votes in favor of 102 votes against it, and eventually, the Kim Special Prosecutor Act was rejected. Park Chan-dae, floor leader of the Democratic Party of Korea, is expected to give a speech on the proceedings.
{ 여사}The results of the re-voting of the First Lady Kim's Special Counsel Act have been rejected. It's 198 votes in favor and 102 against. I think there were more votes against it than the last re-vote. At that time, four votes were in favor of two, and two votes were not in favor of it, and they probably abstained. So there were four votes. But now, we have six votes.
[Work day]
In some cases, when Kim Gun-hee passed the independent counsel law and rejected the impeachment bill in the re-decision vote, there were probably talks about this, but six votes were left anyway.I don't think Ma was approved.
[Anchor]
102 votes against, 198 in favor. Two-thirds of the vote must approve to make a resolution. So it was rejected. So it was finally discarded. It was the third re-vote of the Special Prosecutor's Office Act, which was re-decided after returning to the president's veto. In the end, it was rejected and finally discarded. I see Park Chan-dae, the floor leader. I think I'll probably make a statement on the proceedings. Now what's on the table is the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol. The impeachment of Yoon Suk Yeol's president has been tabled.
Before we proceed with the vote on this, Democratic Party floor leader Park Chan-dae has now settled down to give a speech on the proceedings. Currently, most members of the People's Power are out. You are watching the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. We broke the news. I told you that the Special Prosecutor Kim's Act was finally abolished. A vote on President Yoon's impeachment will then be held. And on the left and right sides of the screen, we're showing you the pro-impeachment rally at the same time.
[Anchor]
The quorum for the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol is two-thirds of the registered members. Then we need to get 200 votes. However, it is said that the powerful lawmakers of the people have left. If so, there is a growing possibility that the decision quorum will not be met. If you don't reach the quorum of 200 people, the vote will not be established. That's why it's rejected. Let's hear the voice of Park Chan-dae, the floor leader.
[Park Chan-dae/Democratic Party floor leader]
There's only one person in the table. I'll explain the proposal. My fellow Koreans and overseas Koreans. National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik and his fellow lawmakers, the floor leader of the Democratic Party of Korea Park Chan-dae. I stood here with a heavy responsibility in front of history and the people. Article 1 of the Constitution of the Republic of Korea states that the Republic of Korea is a democratic republic. It states that the sovereignty of the Republic of Korea lies with the people and all power comes from the people. On September 4, my first speech at the 22nd regular session of the National Assembly began with a reminder of Article 1 of the Constitution.
At that time, I appealed here to return to the spirit of the Constitution to overcome the serious crisis facing the Republic of Korea. Since the inauguration of the Yoon Suk Yeol government, the public safety crisis, the crisis of people's livelihoods, the crisis of democracy, the crisis of peace on the Korean Peninsula, and the crisis of constitutional order are not elsewhere. The whole crisis began when the president, who was supposed to protect the Constitution, betrayed the spirit of the Constitution. He stressed that the president should find a solution from protecting the spirit of the constitution.
Just three months later, on December 3, President Yoon Suk Yeol declared a state of emergency. The president, who is responsible for complying with and protecting the Constitution, committed a riot that destroyed the Constitution and violated the constitutional order on his own. I couldn't believe it when I first heard the news of the emergency decree. It was beyond our common sense that the president, who should abide by and protect the Constitution, violated the Constitution and declared emergency martial law when it was not wartime and there was no incident. Are you saying this really happened in South Korea in 2024? I hoped this situation would be a dream even as I went over the fence of the National Assembly, where access was blocked, to the plenary session to vote on the lifting of the emergency martial law. But it was a stark reality. Fully armed martial law troops stormed the Capitol in helicopters, armored vehicles, and buses.
Hundreds of martial law troops armed with automatic rifles stormed into the constitutional parliament building. The martial law army carried out an operation to arrest the representatives of the opposition party and the ruling party. A midnight coup to arrest and detain a member of Congress took place here in the Capitol, where we are now. The whole scene was broadcast live all over the world in real time. All citizens were shocked by the emergency martial law for the first time in 45 years. The pride of being a model country of democracy has turned into shame at once. I will never forget the shock of the tragic and tragic day. Dear senior colleagues! President Yoon Suk Yeol's declaration of emergency martial law is a clear unconstitutionality that does not meet procedures or requirements and is invalid at the source.
Article 77 (1) of the Constitution stipulates the requirements of martial law when it is necessary to respond to military needs or maintain public well-being as a force in wartime, incident, or equivalent national emergencies. But there was no war, no speculation, no equivalent national emergency. Article 77 (4) of the Constitution, which states that the President must notify the National Assembly without delay when martial law is declared, was also violated. 12. 3 Declaration of emergency martial law is clearly a crime of rebellion under the criminal law. Article 87 of the Criminal Code punishes rioting for the purpose of excluding state power or disrupting national constitution in all or part of the territory of the Republic of Korea as an act of rebellion. The martial law army, which entered the Constitutional Assembly with guns, attempted to arrest and detain lawmakers, including National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik, Democratic Party Chairman Lee Jae-myung, People's Power Leader Han Dong-hoon, and Cho Kuk, leader of the Cho Kuk Innovation Party, and blocked many lawmakers from entering the plenary session, hindering the National Assembly's decision to lift martial law.
The National Constitution has all the requirements for rebellion, which is a riot for the purpose of national constitution. President Yoon Suk Yeol led this civil war. President Yoon Suk Yeol personally called Hong Jang-won, the first deputy director of the National Intelligence Service, and ordered the arrest of the lawmakers, and told them to take this opportunity to catch them all and organize them all. President Yoon Suk Yeol also called the commander of special warfare and the commander of the Capital Defense to check the situation himself. In other words, the Declaration of Emergency martial law is an act of rebellion committed by the President to use the military to seize people's sovereignty and seize not only administrative power but also legislative and judicial power to maintain his power. The Yoon Suk Yeol who planned, carried out, and led the civil war is the head of the civil war, the leader of the civil war, the leader of the civil war.
My fellow Members, my fellow Members! As was revealed in the December 3 emergency martial law rebellion, Yoon Suk Yeol is in a state where normal thinking and rational judgment are impossible, let alone qualifying itself to perform the duties of the President. Even after martial law was lifted by the National Assembly's resolution to lift it, Yoon Suk Yeol said it was a warning, let alone an apology. Does it make sense for a president of a democracy to use the military to try to arrest and detain the opposition and neutralize the constitutional body of the National Assembly? If you don't suspend your duties, you don't know what kind of reckless things you'll do again using your powerful power.
The way to protect the people and the country is to get them out of their jobs right now. Impeachment of the Yoon Suk Yeol is a serious issue for the future of the Republic of Korea. It is not the subject of political strife, nor is it a matter of political advantage or disadvantage. 12. 3. The emergency martial law civil war is having a serious adverse effect on our country's economy, diplomacy, and security. It is obvious that the economic, diplomatic and security crisis facing the Republic of Korea will worsen if Yoon Suk Yeol continues to serve as president. For people around the world who witnessed the emergency martial coup in South Korea in real time, Yoon Suk Yeol has been branded a danger to democracy. As long as the dangerous Yoon Suk Yeol remains president, normal diplomacy cannot take place, and foreigners cannot invest with confidence in an unstable country where they do not know when or what will happen.
The economy is already in a big shock. Since the emergency martial law, the exchange rate has soared and foreigners' stock market sales have soared. The presence of Yoon Suk Yeol in our economy is the biggest obstacle to growing uncertainty. Diplomacy is also a failure. The Yoon Suk Yeol of dangerous people is already being avoided by foreign leaders to the extent that foreign figures' visit to Korea and summits have been postponed. It also has a profound negative impact on security. Yoon Suk Yeol, a danger that destroys democracy and the rule of law, is a stumbling block in the Korea-U.S. alliance. The New York Times diagnosed that the South Korea-U.S. alliance has been put to the test. U.S. Secretary of State Kurt Campbell criticized the declaration of the emergency martial law as a gross misjudgment, and the U.S. postponed meetings and exercises scheduled to be held by South Korea and the U.S. defense authorities.
If impeachment is rejected and Yoon Suk Yeol continues to serve as president, it is obvious that the evaluation of Korea will fall to a level that is difficult to recover and the national crisis will accelerate. Impeachment of Yoon Suk Yeol is the best solution to overcome the crisis we are in. Eliminating uncertainty with impeachment and showing the world the resilience of our democracy is the fastest shortcut to overcoming economic, diplomatic, and security crises. Impeachment is the best way to deal with emergency civil war responsibly. Protecting the Yoon Suk Yeol of a rebellion means becoming an accomplice of a rebellion that destroys the constitutional order and democracy. It is a betrayal of the people and treason of the people that a member of the National Assembly, who should represent the people, will protect those who pointed their guns at the people.
Suspending the Yoon Suk Yeol's duties with the authority of the National Assembly granted by the Constitution is the only way to deal with the emergency martial law situation and overcome the crisis it faces. Making decisions against the will and national interests of the people for private gain is enough for Eulsa 5, which sold the country at the end of the Korean Empire. You must not commit a crime to history. Now, the whole world is watching South Korea. All the people are watching the National Assembly now. The decision we made here today determines the rise and fall of the Republic of Korea. I earnestly appeal to you to prove that the people's sovereignty of the Republic of Korea is firmly alive by voting in favor of the impeachment motion.
I sincerely and earnestly appeal to you to lay the groundwork for wisely overcoming the crisis in the Republic of Korea by suspending the presidential duties of the Yoon Suk Yeol. Members of the People's Power. I earnestly appeal to you to come back here soon and impeach the Yoon Suk Yeol of the rebellion and participate in overcoming and resolving democracy, the people's livelihood, and the crisis in the Republic of Korea.
Rep. Kang Dae-sik. Rep. Kang Myung-koo. Rep. Kang Min-guk. Rep. Kang Sun-yeon. Rep. Kang Seung-gyu. Rep. Ko Dong-jin. Rep. Kwak Kyu-taek. Rep. Kwak Kyu-taek, who attended the resolution calling for lifting the emergency martial law, Rep. Koo Ja-geun. Rep. Kwon Sung-dong. Rep. Kwon Young-se. Rep. Kwon Young-jin. Rep. Kim Ki-woong. Rep. Kim Dae-sik. Rep. Kim Do-eup. Rep. Kim Mi-ae. Former Rep. Kim Min. Rep. Kim Sang-wook. Rep. Kim Sang-wook, who attended the resolution on the demand for the lifting of the emergency martial law, please return. Rep. Kim Sang-wook. Rep. Kim Sang-hoon. Rep. Kim Seok-ki. Rep. Kim Sun-kyo. Rep. Kim Sung-won. Rep. Kim Sung-won who attended the resolution calling for the lifting of the emergency martial law. Welcome back. Rep. Kim So-hee.
Rep. Kim Seung-soo. Rep. Kim Ye-ji. Rep. Kim Yong-tae. Rep. Kim Yong-tae who attended the resolution on the demand for lifting the emergency martial law. Please come back soon. Rep. Kim Wisan, Rep. Kim Eun-hye, Rep. Kim Jang-gyeom, Rep. Kim Jae-seop. Rep. Kim Jae-sup, Rep. Kim Jae-sup, who attended the resolution calling for the lifting of the emergency martial law! Welcome back. Rep. Kim Jung-jae. Rep. Kim Jong-young. Rep. Kim Tae-ho. Rep. Kim Hyung-dong. Rep. Kim Hyung-dong who attended the resolution calling for the lifting of the emergency martial law. Please come back quickly. Rep. Kim Hee-jung. Rep. Na Kyung-won. Rep. Park Loan. Rep. Park Deok-heum. Rep. Park Sang-woong. Rep. Park Sung-min. Rep. Park Sung-hoon. Rep. Park Soo-min. Rep. Park Soo-min who attended the resolution calling for the lifting of the emergency martial law. Welcome back. Rep. Park Soo-young. Rep. Park Jung-ha. Rep. Park Jung-ha who attended the resolution calling for the lifting of the emergency martial law. Welcome back. Rep. Park Jung-hoon. Rep. Park Jung-hoon who attended the resolution calling for the lifting of the emergency martial law. Please come back soon. Rep. Park Joon-tae. Rep. Park Chung-kwon.
[Anchor]
Explained the legitimacy of President Yoon's impeachment, appealed for the suspension of President Yoon's duties, and called the names of the People's Power lawmakers one by one to appeal to participate in the vote. I think they're calling the names of 108 ruling party members one by one. I'm encouraging them to vote, saying, "Welcome back." Currently, most of the members of the People's Power have left, falling short of 200 members of the National Assembly. Senator Ahn Cheol Soo is sitting alone. You can see a member of the Ahn Cheol Soo right now. Park Chan-dae, the floor leader of the ruling party, is calling the names one by one to encourage voting. I showed you that 108 ruling party members are calling out the names one by one. Since the quorum of decisions is filled, the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol has been proposed.
I have to fill 200 people, but there are no more than 200 people. Currently, 191 opposition lawmakers and 192 Ahn Cheol Soo lawmakers are sitting. Choo Kyung-ho, floor leader of the People's Power Party, has expressed his intention to resign from the general assembly.
[Anchor]
I just got a breaking news. There is a breaking news that floor leader Choo Kyung-ho of the People's Power has expressed his intention to resign. When the emergency decree was issued on the night of the 3rd, it sent a message to lawmakers to gather at the headquarters, not at the plenary session of the National Assembly, causing confusion. I was criticized for this. From the Democratic Party's point of view, it said it would consider charges of rebellion. It is reported that he has completed the impeachment vote process and expressed his intention to resign to lawmakers. There is also a news report that floor leader Choo Kyung-ho of the People's Power has expressed his intention to resign at the general assembly. I'm showing you the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. All opposition lawmakers are standing up in place.
Following floor leader Park Chan-dae, who explained the legitimacy of President Yoon Suk Yeol's impeachment, he is calling the names of members of the People's Power to appeal to participate in the vote. Members of the People's Power have already left the plenary session. Except for Ahn Cheol Soo, all 107 members of the People's Power have left their seats. You're looking at the plenary session of the National Assembly at this time. The Democratic Party of Korea is appealing for the participation of members of the People's Power.
[Workday]
I think I see a very well-organized performance for political performances as well. My personal opinion is that the members of the People's Power Party should also participate in the vote, but since there is only one thing in the ruling party's perspective, wasn't the vote of Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel bill approved if only two more people agreed? So, no matter how much party theory sets it, you can see that there is a formidable opposition, and I think he used a method of leaving the party to block it. I've seen it in the past, but I personally feel a bit disappointed.
[Anchor]
Earlier, Representative Lee Jae-myung made remarks that did not meet the public's expectations and raised anger this morning, President Yoon Suk Yeol said in a statement. At the same time, he resigned once again and said there was no other way but to step down early due to impeachment. And representative Lee Jae-myung said that if the impeachment bill is rejected, he will pass it even if it is repeated indefinitely. If the People's Power lawmakers do not participate in the impeachment bill, they will not meet the quorum of votes. We have to go through the process of proposing it again and proposing it again.
[Work day]
We're in the regular session of the National Assembly right now. It ends on December 10th. So, the same agenda cannot be proposed before December 10, once it is rejected. That's why we're going to convene another extraordinary session of the National Assembly on the 11th. The extraordinary session of the National Assembly is usually held for a month, but as I've seen before, I have to split the session in a week or just 72 hours, so I'll split the session in that way and continue it until it works for the Democratic Party of Korea. That's what I'm talking about.
[Anchor]
They say they will pass it even if it is repeated indefinitely, as I told them. So, what position should the ruling party take in the future?
[Work day]
Well, impeachment will probably continue to be voted down when the same impeachment comes up.
[Anchor]
Wouldn't it be a lot of pressure if you continue to leave the main hall like that?
[Work day]
It looks very ugly and is not convincing to the people. That's why if Han talked about early retirement and suspension of his job, he should tell us the details of what to do. While talking about the opposition to impeachment, can we continue to respond to this difficult situation with a vague attitude with the meaning that it is not against impeachment? So, any politician responsible for these things, whether it is a constitutional amendment to shorten the term or choose to voluntarily step down through a certain schedule, must reveal them. And can't you just continue to expect that if the impeachment is voted down, the number of people who are at the protest now will increase more and more? We've seen it in the past.
That means you can't lead the political situation or lead the political situation as it is if you just show your avoidance like this, you can't continue like this. I think we need to calm public opinion and seek an alternative to impeachment only when we quickly gather lawmakers' opinions or meet with President Yoon again to reveal how to resign early and suspend his duties.
[Anchor]
He said he would appoint a plan to manage the political situation, including the term of office, and representative Han Dong-hoon also said he needed to step down early. However, legally, the only way to resign early is to impeach and step down on your own.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. In conclusion, the concept of early resignation itself means that he will step down from his post faster than the term prescribed by the current law. When you come down voluntarily, it's called white. Impeachment is the suspension and dismissal of duties according to the law and constitutional procedures. Actually, there are only two. But on what part of that, how are you going to step down early? And the second is basically the president's privilege to remove fluoride in our constitution. Therefore, they are not prosecuted except for the crimes of civil war and foreign exchange. It's paradoxical, but why can we prosecute the rebellion and rebellion?
In short, since it is a crime that can harm or stop the constitutional period of the Republic of Korea, we are creating a structure that can clearly punish that part. In principle, the Constitution already contains the constitutional judgment that it is not appropriate to maintain control over the head of the military, the troops, and all investigative agencies during the president's term in case of civil war and foreign exchange.
[Anchor]
The Democratic Party of Korea criticizes President Yoon for the crime of rebellion in this way, but is this the legal title for the leader, the leader?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. There are certain things like that a monk will be sentenced to death. A water monster is included in the crime of rebellion. In the case of rebellion, the most important concept is the purpose of the national constitution when limiting the power of the state in some regions or arbitrarily abolishing institutions prescribed by the Constitution and laws. In fact, this is a political part, so it's not appropriate for me to say, but basically, the series of martial law, proclamations, and the entry of the military into the National Assembly, it seems that each position should clearly present an opinion on what other than the crime of rebellion and how and why they disagree. I think those parts are necessary.
[Anchor]
Opposition parties and civic groups have also filed complaints for rebellion. It is also an unconstitutional and illegal issuance of emergency martial law that failed to meet martial law requirements despite the reasons for impeachment announced by the six opposition parties. And when martial law was declared, the notification clause of the National Assembly was not implemented. The National Assembly blockade said this was a violation of the separation of powers and infringed on the parliamentarians' right to deliberate and vote. What do you think about these three main reasons?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
I think this part is very clear. All the powers of the President are authorized by the people under the Constitution. Therefore, the process of invoking and exercising the authority must be in accordance with the Constitution and laws. Martial law can only be done if the minimum requirements are met in a really national emergency, and it should also be aimed at allowing another constitutional body, the National Assembly, to examine and lift it. However, the most shocking part of the contents this time is that the National Assembly and political party activities are prohibited. I still remember. The breaking news in this decree No. 1 was that the National Assembly was dissolved. There is no dissolution of the National Assembly in the Constitution of the Republic of Korea.
And if you dissolve the National Assembly by force, this is clearly a civil war. In that respect, I don't think there will be any disagreement, at least if you're a lawyer, that you've done things that could basically pose a fundamental challenge to the constitutional order. Of course, opinions may differ on the timing of implementation or whether it is an attempted rebellion, whether it is a preliminary conspiracy, or an attempted rebellion.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
Park Chan-dae, thank you for your hard work. In accordance with Article 130 (2) of the National Assembly Act, we will vote in an anonymous voting method. And I would like to inform you that the impeachment motion of the President is decided with the approval of at least two-thirds of the registered members in accordance with Article 65 (2) of the Constitution. Please refer to the terminal for the impeachment resolution letter pursuant to Article 133 of the National Assembly Act. In accordance with Article 114 (2) of the National Assembly Act, I will nominate a commissioner for reduction of votes. Rep. Kim Tae-sun, Rep. Park Ji-hye, Rep. Jung Joon-ho, Rep. Cha Ji-ho, Rep. Park Eun-jung, Rep. Lee Hye-min, Rep. Lee Joon-seok, and Rep. Jeon Jong-deok. The eight of you will work hard. Members of the tabulation committee, please come to the tabulation table. Let's start voting right after we have an explanation from the Director of Physicians on how to vote.
[Interview]
Let me explain how to vote. First, you can receive a plaque and a ballot, and then write "A" or "Buddhist" in Korean or Chinese characters in the blank of the ballot. Please note that if you mark any characters or symbols other than A or Boo, they will be invalidated, and if you do not mark any on your ballot, they will be treated as abstentions. That's the end of the explanation and we'll start voting.
[Anchor]
We are now beginning the process of voting on the impeachment motion of President Yoon Suk Yeol. Representative Power of the People of Ahn Cheol Soo, who did not leave, is seen. You are the only one out of 108 people who are participating in the vote. He is the only one who is participating in the vote, and it seems that he is the first to vote. You just heard floor leader Park Chan-dae's explanation of the proposal for the impeachment of President Yoon, which has already been proposed. The voting process is going on right now. Due to the exit of the People's Power lawmaker, 200 members of the National Assembly are short. It seems that the number of members of the National Assembly will not be met due to the lack of members in the National Assembly. The impeachment bill is still expected to be rejected. However, the quorum has been filled and the vote is going on as scheduled.
However, if the number of plaques is less than 200, there is a possibility that you may not be able to open the ballot box. There is a possibility that we may not be able to check the number of votes. The impeachment bill of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol has just been introduced. The anonymous vote has begun. You are seeing Representative Ahn Cheol Soo of the People's Power being the first to vote. The people's power has decided not to participate in the vote, and all of them have left since the re-voting of the Kim Special Counsel Act. Earlier, I broke the news that the re-decision on the Special Prosecutor Kim Act was rejected and finally abolished. After the vote on the Special Prosecutor Kim's Act, all 107 lawmakers, except for the majority of the People's Power and Ahn Cheol Soo, left. Rep. Kim Ye-ji also participated in the impeachment vote. Representative Kim Ye-ji of
People's Power Ahn Cheol Soo. Let me tell you again. People's Power Rep. Ahn Cheol Soo and Rep. Kim Ye-ji also participated in the impeachment vote. Representative Kim Ye-ji was a member of the younger faction, and previously insisted on a constitutional amendment to shorten his term. Currently, Ahn Cheol Soo of the People's Power and lawmaker Kim Ye-ji are reporting that they participated in the vote on President Yoon's impeachment. Currently, a anonymous vote on the impeachment of President Yoon is underway. It is expected to take some time because it is also a anonymous and handwritten vote.
Most members of the People's Power have left, falling short of 200 members of the National Assembly. If the number of members in the National Assembly falls short, the impeachment bill is expected to be rejected. I see Rep. Kim Ye-ji now. I'm holding a vote. President Yoon's impeachment, two-thirds of the registered lawmakers, so 200 out of 300, must approve it to pass. Since most members of the People's Power have left, it is highly likely that they will not be able to check the number of votes. You're looking at the power of the people of Ahn Cheol Soo.
[Anchor]
Earlier, I was talking with lawyer Kim Sung-hoon about the rebellion. Among the reasons for the impeachment announced by the six opposition parties is the attempted rebellion that illegally mobilized the military to storm the National Assembly and attempted to arrest key politicians. In this part, not only the rebellion mass related to the crime of rebellion, but also the participants and active participants can be punished.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
In the case of rebellion, it is possible to punish very strongly. Among them, it is possible to punish not only active participants but also agitators, that is, those who instigated civil war. The rebellion is called a preliminary conspiracy, and strong criminal punishment is possible just by planning without starting execution. So, in conclusion, no matter how you interpret it, you don't have any constitutional authority to justify the invasion of the military or the processes that have taken place in the National Assembly. Therefore, in that part, anyone who decides to do it and anyone who knows the contents in the process of implementing it and works with it for the purpose of national constitutional controversy can be punished as a joint offender for rebellion.
[Anchor]
I see. It was yesterday, and the commanders were interviewed yesterday. They said they didn't know and just followed. So what's the punishment?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
In principle, it is not a requirement for rebellion without the purpose of the national constitution. As stated, if you did not know that this was an act of execution in a rebellion conspiracy, you can avoid punishment. But what's important is that some of the statements, like the 1st Airborne Brigade Commander, were ordered to bring down lawmakers before the vote, or even cut off electricity in connection with it, can be seen as the introduction of military forces to effectively neutralize the right to lift martial law under the Constitution of the National Assembly, but in fact, there is little reason for the commander who was actually deployed to the scene to make such an order all of a sudden. If so, it can be seen as a situation that can be a serious constitutional rebellion.
[Anchor]
What's different from the commander's statement?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
According to the commander's statement, it can be seen that it is a crime of rebellion. Basically, what instructions were given in each of these parts, who recognized and delivered them, or who executed them, is a very important part of future criminal investigations.
[Anchor]
Army Chief of Staff Park An-soo, who was the commander of martial law at the time, said, "The martial law proclamation has a name. However, he said that he knew that martial law was declared only through his discourse report. How can you be punished in this case?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
I need to make sure that's true. Nevertheless, martial law decree No. 1 is to suspend the activities of the National Assembly. 12. According to the 1997 ruling on the 12th military incident, the expansion of martial law nationwide and the expansion of the system nationwide at the time are basically considered as one of the acts of civil war. In other words, if there was an attempt to restrict the basic rights of the people or neutralize a constitutional institution by using physical force alone, the decree itself could be an act of rebellion itself. If you look at the contents of the decree, no matter how much you did not receive a legal review and sealed it in your name, there is a possibility of guilt in that part.
[Anchor]
I see. The prosecution investigation, the police investigation, and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit are all underway. There will also be a summons investigation in the future regarding the prosecution and police investigation. And the presidential subpoena is inevitable. How will the investigation proceed in the future and what points should we pay attention to?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
In conclusion, all the proclamations and contents that have already been released are revealed. And it shows what the police physically controlled the National Assembly, and what the military special forces wanted to do to infiltrate and enter the National Assembly. Specifically, an investigation needs to be conducted into the parts of who understood and planned the arrest order for politicians at the time and how the order was made. Based on those parts, it is necessary to determine how far the specific participants are and how far they can be punished. But the important parts of the progress here are the items, and the first thing is who wrote the decree.
[Anchor]
It says that you have to see who wrote the decree, and that you will be punished.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
And now, not only the National Assembly but also the NEC has actually occupied it. This is really like that for me. As a lawyer, the power of the state can only be justified by the Constitution and laws. No individual or individual can do it, and the people have delegated just that much. The same goes for the army moving. The army entered the NEC and it took over. If so, in fact, it seems necessary to check this part of how, why, why, what intention, what purpose. Still, if the military was not just deployed here and there after martial law was declared, but specifically to the National Assembly, the National Election Commission, and some military offices, there is a very high possibility of a planning stage, so it is also very important when and by whom the plan was made.
[Anchor]
We should consider when, where, who, and why we made this decision. What do you think of lawyer Kim Sung-hoon? Do you think it will take a lot of time?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
I don't think it will take much time. Fortunately, statements and testimonies of those who played roles in each execution unit are already coming out through the media. The most important thing is actually the fundamental dilemma. So it's actually the President of Yoon Suk Yeol who decided and exercised authority on all of these things, in a way, as things stand now, announced martial law and made statements and claimed that this was justified.
[Anchor]
Article 77 (1) of the Constitution of Emergency martial law states that emergency martial law can be done by the president.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. Then, there is a fundamental concern about whether the investigation and punishment of the president, who can exercise urgent authority in all processes of power at the peak of state power, can work through the state's power process. Our Constitution allows prosecution while in office in the case of civil war or foreign exchange crimes. On the contrary, if it was not a civil war and foreign exchange, they would not be prosecuted while in office.
[Anchor]
Except for cases where the President's privilege to remove fluoride, civil war, or foreign exchange crimes is committed under Article 84 of the Constitution.
[Kim Sung Hoon]
That's right. Insurrection is the arbitrary suspension and abolition of the Constitution and laws. If the president arbitrarily suspends the constitution and laws, then he can no longer serve as the guardian of the constitution of the country, so he should be able to turn criminal and quickly proceed with legal action related to the investigation. In fact, I think there is an impeachment procedure with such a constitutional procedure. So, regarding this part, shortening the term of office is a political issue, but if you think about each of these reasons as a rebellion or a rebellion, I think we should review and consider whether it is acceptable under our constitution to proceed with the current rebellion investigation and that the commander of the military and the main person of the rebellion investigation are the same.
[Anchor]
At this time, we continue to show you the appearance of the plenary session of the National Assembly. Currently, the vote on President Yoon's impeachment is underway. All ruling party lawmakers, except Ahn Cheol Soo and Kim Ye-ji, did not participate in the impeachment vote. Therefore, if 200 members of the impeachment motion approve it, it will be passed, but the quorum of the vote has not been met. Therefore, there is a high possibility of rejection due to the failure of the vote. The voting process is continuing. Earlier, Kim Ye-ji, a member of the People's Power, was also seen voting and leaving. Both Ahn Cheol Soo and Kim Ye-ji participated in the vote on the impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol. Except for Ahn Cheol Soo and Rep. Kim Ye-ji, all 106 members of the People's Power Party have left after only participating in the reconsideration vote of the Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act. And lawyer Kim Sung-hoon, and Lee Joon-seok, a member of the New Reform Party, were also briefly seen voting, and Lee Joon-seok said that if the people's power sympathizes or tries to pass lightly, he will judge the dissolution of the party. What is a justification dissolution trial and what are the possibilities?
[Kim Sung Hoon]
First of all, the justification dissolution trial can be said to be unconstitutional, that is, a dissolution trial for an unconstitutional party. It is a legal procedure that can dissolve associations in terms of defensive democracy, which are political purposes of denying the constitutional basic order or neutralizing the constitutional order. However, basically, the application for an unconstitutional dissolution trial is made by the government, so it seems difficult for the current government to proceed with those parts.
If you look at what Rep. Lee Joon-seok said, no matter when the government is formed in this regard, the purpose of halting the current constitution, violating basic constitutional rights, and disrupting legal rights has already been confirmed to some extent, and without taking legal action on it, we will someday seek a trial to dissolve the unconstitutional party politically as well as legally responsible for the parts that lawmakers did not play their role as constitutional guardians. You can see it for this purpose.
[Anchor]
At this time, we are showing you the plenary session of the National Assembly. We also see Rep. Cheon Ha-ram of the New Reform Party. To summarize the situation so far, I broke the news that the vote was rejected by six votes as a result of the re-decision of the Kim Gun-hee Special Counsel Act. Subsequently, Park Chan-dae, floor leader of the proposed impeachment of President Yoon, explained the proposal, and in the process, he called the names of 108 ruling party members one by one, encouraging them to vote. However, all 106 ruling party lawmakers except Ahn Cheol Soo and Kim Ye-ji did not participate in the impeachment vote. Let's hear from National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik now.
[Woo Won-sik / Speaker of the National Assembly]
Members of the People's Power should also participate in the vote so that we can all vote together. Since this issue is not a matter of factionalism, it is a matter of history and democracy of the Republic of Korea, so I will also say something as the Speaker of the National Assembly urges the members of the People's Power to participate in the vote. The Republic of Korea is a country that the people have protected. The power of the Republic of Korea to overcome the tragic pain of modern and contemporary history of colonization, war, division, and dictatorship came from the people. The president's declaration of emergency martial law is not correct because it denies this history and has caused a great blow to the pride of the people.
It is a democracy created by the blood and tears of the people for a long time. So people around the world are amazed at Korea, the only country that has gone through a colony to become an advanced country. Backed by this phenomenal view, K-cultures such as K-pop, K-drama, and K-food that shake the world are created because they are supported by democracy and economic growth created by the people, not the success of any political faction. No one should hurt this. However, this emergency martial law surprised our people and surprised the world. I was surprised to see if the democracy of the Republic of Korea was so weak.
However, on the other hand, the world is surprised by the democracy of the Republic of Korea. Two and a half hours after declaring the emergency decree, citizens gathered in front of the National Assembly, and lawmakers came into the plenary hall and lifted the emergency decree in two and a half hours. It's unprecedented in history. The whole world is surprised by the resilience of democracy in the Republic of Korea, to the extent that there is no case in the world. This resilience, we have to make it. The world is surprised to see this resilience, which is being created in a really orderly manner according to the constitutional procedure, so this great Republic of Korea must be protected together regardless of political factions.
But look. How do you think the people, the world, and history will see this not being on the ballot in the process of dealing with the unfair emergency martial law? Aren't you afraid of the evaluation of history? Aren't you afraid of the public's evaluation? Aren't you afraid of the world's evaluation? If the world's evaluation is undermined by showing the democratic image of a Republic of Korea that cannot be corrected in this way, and a weak Korea, can you be responsible for it? I appeal to the members of the People's Power with all my might. Please join the vote. That is the way to protect the Republic of Korea and the democracy of the Republic of Korea now. I'll say it again.
Please join the vote. Refusing to vote is something you can do with your free will.Ma can't do this. I think people who want to vote according to their free will should vote. As a patriot, as a member of the National Assembly of the Republic of Korea, and as an institution representing the people, I think that's a duty of course. Please come in and vote.
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