□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15-09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: December 24, 2024 (Tue)
□ Host: Kim Woo-sung PD
□ Castor: Park Hyung-soo, Senior Vice-President of the People's Power Floor
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◆ PD Kim Woo-sung (hereinafter Kim Woo-sung): YTN Radio News Fighting Part 3 will begin. Let's continue with the interview. Earlier, Choi Jae-sung, former senior presidential secretary for political affairs, said, "Birds hang on the wings of the left and right." Let's hear about the right wing. You're the deputy floor leader of the People's Power, right? I'm connecting to Representative Park Hyung-soo. How are you, Senator?
◇ Park Hyung-soo, Senior Deputy Leader of the People's Power Floor (hereinafter referred to as Park Hyung-soo): Yes, how are you? I'm Park Hyung-soo.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, I think I should ask you the hot news first. There was a lot of content and various discussions because of the party's need to build new leadership, but some say that it has been decided as a five-term lawmaker Kwon Young-se. What is the situation?
◇ Park Hyung-soo: That will be finalized at the general meeting of the lawmakers today, but I don't think we can talk about the situation now.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: The internal affairs situation will not be known until the General Assembly. Do you think we can understand it like this?
◇ Hyungsoo Park: Yes.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Yes, sir. Then I'll ask you another situation. The so-called "two independent counsel" law, which the Democratic Party of Korea has been calling on acting President Han Duck-soo until today. First Lady Kim Gun-hee's independent counsel law and the independent counsel law should be promulgated, but it was not presented to the Cabinet meeting today. You can impeach him. What do you think?
◇ Park Hyung-soo: Right now, the Democratic Party is really the party of nothing. The Constitution now has 15 days to promulgate legislation and exercise the right to request reconsideration. But the Democratic Party is now threatening the acting president to impeach him if he doesn't cut it by a week at his disposal and doesn't do it by today. And even the DP floor spokesman said, "If we don't publicize this, we will impeach more than five members of the Cabinet all at once, paralyzing the function of the Cabinet." So I'll have this bill promulgated automatically. We're talking about this, but if this situation happens now, what will happen to our national prestige? And what about the economy and people's livelihoods? I think this in itself is really an act of constitutional destruction. I don't think this should ever happen.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: The time limit and various rights procedures guaranteed by law must be observed. That's what I'm saying.
◇ Hyungsoo Park: Of course.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Then there will be another plenary session on the 31st or 26th, but how do you think the two independent counsel law will be handled at the Cabinet meeting on the 31st?
◇ Hyungsoo Park: I don't know. We can't predict that because it's an authority that should be exercised by an acting authority.Ma: The basic position of our party is that there are many elements that are unconstitutional in this bill, as I said last time. So I think the acting authority will make a good decision considering such unconstitutional factors.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes. The opposition party recommended the independent counsel and said these parts were unconstitutional, but the ruling and opposition parties are also holding a meeting now. Can it be revised through consultation?
◇ Park Hyung-soo: That's the part where the bill has been transferred to the government, so if the acting president vetoes it, then the ruling and opposition parties can discuss it.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Yes, sir. And even if the acting president Han Deok-soo is impeached, the ruling and opposition parties differ over the quorum of votes. What is your position?
◇ Park Hyung-soo: The acting president is exercising all his powers as president. And basically, the system of acting president itself is to stabilize state affairs and prevent confusion in state affairs. Therefore, the decision quorum must also be strictly interpreted. Therefore, I think that the quorum of two-thirds of the revision should be applied in the same way as the president. Now, the Democratic Party of Korea is going to make a quorum for the prime minister's impeachment decision with the illegality during his time as prime minister. I'm talking about this, but if a person who was a minister becomes president, he will impeach the minister with a quorum of decisions based on illegality at the time of that minister. This doesn't make sense, does it? Regarding this issue, the National Assembly's legislative investigation office previously said that the quorum should be two-thirds, but recently the quorum has been going back and forth. However, the National Assembly's steering committee said that it is reasonable to make it a two-thirds quorum in the case of senior professional committee members.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, the Legislative Investigation Office is the prime minister, and the majority of cases of impeachment occur while performing their duties. Choi Jae-sung, former senior secretary for political affairs, just appeared on our program and said, "Since the president remains the same and only his duties are suspended, the president exists and the prime minister only acts on behalf of the authority, so the quorum of decisions based on the president is not right." How did you like it?
◇ Park Hyung-soo: That's because, as I just said, the system of acting authority itself is for the stability of state affairs. If you can impeach this with an unstable quorum of decisions, there's no reason to create this system.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Yes, sir. A confirmation hearing for the Constitutional Court justice is also being held today. You were absent yesterday. Today, Cho Han-chang is the candidate recommended by the ruling party. Are you continuing your absence today?
◇ [Hyungsoo Park] Yes, that's right. Again today, the people's power will not enter the Constitutional Court confirmation hearing, nor will the Supreme Court confirmation hearing. Because the president has both a position as head of state and a position as head of the executive branch. The power to appoint a constitutional judge or Supreme Court justice, an independent constitutional institution, comes from the position of head of state, which is completely different from the exercise of the right to request reconsideration. However, it should be said that the Democratic Party of Korea can enforce this now and appoint a constitutional judge. To argue like this is the opposite of what the Democratic Party has claimed in the past. So we can't agree to go ahead with the Constitutional Court confirmation hearing, which basically can't be appointed by the acting president. That's the position.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: In fact, we have reported a lot about the position of the Constitutional Court and other constitutional scholars, but Lee Joon-seok, a member of the New Reform Party, appeared on the program yesterday and said, "If North Korea makes provocations now, acting President Uh Han Deok-soo should exercise the right to lead the military as a head of state. For that reason, things like the appointment of a constitutional judge should be done. ” That's why I made the argument. How do you rate it?
◇ Park Hyung-soo: You have to exercise your military leadership right now, of course, you have to exercise your military leadership as an acting authority. However, as I said earlier, there are no prestigious regulations on this part, so we have to follow our past precedents. In the past, when President Park Geun Hye was impeached, then Acting President Hwang Kyo-ahn was in trouble. However, after the impeachment trial was cited, a constitutional judge was appointed. There is a case in which the acting president appointed a constitutional judge after he did not do it while he was old, and the impeachment trial was decided and lost his presidential status. I think we should refer to that case.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. Even in these various situations, state affairs and people's livelihoods are serious. Should we understand that the ruling-opposition-government consultative body is going to be centered on the floor leader?
◇ Park Hyung-soo: First of all, isn't it something that the National Assembly can do in cooperation with the government such as passing bills on people's livelihoods and supporting economic revitalization? That's why, basically, the floor leader should be the center. However, the Democratic Party of Korea insisted that Chairman Lee Jae-myung should continue to participate, so the National Assembly Speaker said similarly that the floor leader should be at the center in order to proceed with this in practice from the first launch, so I think it will be sorted out in that direction. Basically, the power of the Korean people is still the ruling party in the government-government consultation. Therefore, it is true that if people need the power of the people, they should consult with the party and cooperate with the opposition party when they need cooperation with the opposition party with the results. Since the current situation is so extraordinary and it has a great impact on various external credibility and economic conditions, we are trying to accept the ruling and opposition parties' consultative body on a large level and work together now.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, as media special committees are in operation within the party now, we will take legal action if we categorically express the allegations of rebellion as a rebellion or simply cite allegations such as assassination groups. There's also a notice like this. May I ask you something about this, too? What's your position on this?
◇ Park Hyung-soo: We are also talking about the democratic party's insurrection sympathizers and things like that in each standing committee.
◆ [Kim Woo-sung] There was a conflict. Even with such expressions as "insurrection".
◇ Park Hyung-soo: It's basically a defamatory statement to say that this is something that should be considered legally, that it's a sympathizing force to make it a political offensive, that it's an accomplice to rebel. We should not make such remarks, and if we leave them unattended, we will continue to make such claims and offensives, but we will strictly deal with them in order to prevent them. I think I expressed this position.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes. I presume not guilty until the Supreme Court makes a final ruling. Even in the disclosure of the suspect's identity, this is the content that is included in subtitles at the bottom. Nevertheless, Roh Sang-won, former intelligence commander, is known to be a reverse master, but what was revealed in his notebook has been revealed in the police investigation and the National Assembly, which is shocking. Expressions such as death and collection have appeared. Have you talked about this in the party?
◇ Park Hyung-soo: I haven't talked about that yet, but I'm very shocked that those words are in that notebook. But how far has it been delivered? What kind of imagination are you in? I think this is something that should be revealed through the investigation whether it was organized by oneself, whether it was discussed with the Minister of National Defense, or whether it was delivered to him.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. He's been sent to the prosecution. There are areas where more accurate facts need to be revealed through detailed investigations, and we will ask again accordingly. Among the responses to the impeachment trial of President Yoon Suk Yeol and the investigation into the alleged rebellion, he said, "We will investigate the alleged rebellion later and focus on the impeachment trial now." It takes some time to deliver various documents, and there are some criticisms. How does the party judge you?
◇ Park Hyung-soo: The investigation of the alleged rebellion and the impeachment trial are separate procedures. Therefore, it seems that it is in accordance with such legal procedures that are being carried out separately now. However, the president is not receiving the documents that the Constitutional Court is serving now, but this part seems a little inappropriate. It is true that there is not enough time to prepare because it has only been 10 days since the impeachment. However, I would like to receive the delivery documents and go to the main proceedings, so please give me a period where we can plead that we are running out of time for this reason. It's enough to do it in a formal trial like this. It is not appropriate to show this impression of delaying by not receiving the delivery document itself. It's as if Lee Jae-myung has been leading the trial of the violation of the Public Official Election Act for more than two years now. Also, I think it will be difficult for both sides to convince the public because it is associated with delaying the trial in this way that the appeals court does not receive notice of receipt of litigation records.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: The courtesy document should have been received. That's what they said. The second summons of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is also expected to be rejected. to be able to recruit by force These prospects are also coming out, and since this is the first time in the history of an incumbent president, I think the party will be concerned about this.
◇ [Hyungsoo Park] That's right. It is now reported that the security service does not receive this for the summons of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, but the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit seems likely to request an arrest warrant. Even if you actually make an arrest, if you don't cooperate with the security service, this very big thing can happen that you can't actually make an arrest. So, if the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit gets an arrest warrant and tries to execute it, but if it interferes, there may be a problem of obstruction of justice. So, I think that the presidential office and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit should discuss this and organize it in the direction of the president's voluntary attendance.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: In the direction of the president's voluntary attendance. In a statement to the public, he said, "If it's a trial, if it's an investigation, I'll confidently participate in the investigation," so he said, "I'd like to show that to the public." In fact, I think you have more concerns as a party leadership group. Earlier, when our former senior secretary for political affairs Choi Jae-sung appeared, he commented that the power of the people might be holding a political calculator now. What do you think?
◇ Hyung-soo Park: We're not calculating it like that, but what I've said so far is that the presidential office and we should do it according to the principle, right? So we think that we should solve all these issues in accordance with laws and principles.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: According to your laws and principles, the president should be served with documents and the investigation should be made to the public in the form of voluntary attendance. The NEC has become an untimely controversy. "No Lee Jae-myung." This is a banner in the Busan area, but at first, it could affect the pre-election campaign. I banned it because it could affect the election, but allowed it again. How do you see it now that it's over?
◇ Park Hyung-soo: Basically, I think the NEC judged too hastily. He said he shouldn't because it was a losing campaign because it reminded him of the election, but for that to happen, the impeachment trial is continuing, and it presupposes that it will be cited in the impeachment trial, so early presidential election is another premise, and representative Lee Jae-myung will run. On the premise of this, I thought it was too hasty because it was called a losing campaign, and we raised an objection, so it seems that the NEC corrected this part through a general meeting.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes. There are also talks about the promotion of legislation to punish the NEC if it raises suspicions of fraudulent elections. In fact, I didn't exactly write this part because it was a fraudulent election, but the president is also interested in it because he made relevant nuances. What do you think?
◇ Park Hyung-soo: I don't understand how a democratic society can make such a legislative attempt when it comes to such a legislative attempt. Furthermore, on the Election Commission. In a word, doesn't this mean that if you raise an objection or criticize something about the work of the NEC, you will block it? I basically don't agree with the allegations of election fraud, but preventing them from making those claims itself is not something that can happen in a democratic society. So I don't understand why the NEC is pushing this way on this part either.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, the question itself should not be prevented. Prior to the party's reform, there are reports that Kwon Young-se is now nominated through a general meeting of lawmakers, but it should be decided through a general meeting of lawmakers. That's what he said. There are many concerns about how the party should deal with the current situation, not only those who support the power of the people, but also those who are interested in politics. How should we break through? We should also discuss the key directions we need to go together.
◇ Park Hyung-soo: We think that in the current situation, it is most necessary to stabilize the current situation and the current situation in the party. The launch of the emergency committee basically consists of two tasks: stabilization and innovation. At present, I think it is very important to stabilize the party and stabilize the current situation to create a situation where people can restore their comfortable lives to their daily lives. So we need experienced leadership now to manage the party and the situation in a stable manner. In that direction, I think our party should present a countermeasure and persuade the people.
◆ [Kim Woo-sung] Yes, I've been talking about stability many times, but if. It's a assumption, but when the impeachment trial is cited and the presidential election is held, will stable leadership be okay? I think you might be concerned about this.
◇ Park Hyung-soo: That is, if the impeachment trial is cited, the presidential election should be held within 60 days. That's why we, and Democrats, move on completely to the election system. Since it moves on to the election system, the current emergency committee system or one-top or two-top system becomes meaningless at that time. So we're moving on to the election system as a whole. The organization needs to be reorganized like that, and the activities of the lawmakers will all be tailored to it.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, there will be a separate response because it's a top-tier system then. I'll understand with these words. Thank you for talking today.
◇ Hyungsoo Park: Yes, thank you.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: You are the chief deputy representative of the People's Power Party. It was Representative Park Hyung-soo.
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