Choi Jae-sung said, "崔, the first task is to finish the agency system..."To have limited veto power"

[YTN radio news fighting]

□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15-09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: December 31, 2024 (Tue)
□ Host: Kim Woo-sung PD
□ Castor: Choi Jae-sung, former senior presidential secretary for political affairs

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◆ PD Kim Woosung (hereinafter referred to as Kim Woosung): Yes, you've been waiting. I told you in advance that I would meet you after the commercial. Choi Jae-sung, former senior presidential secretary for political affairs, is connected. How are you, Chief?

◇ Choi Jae-sung, former senior presidential secretary for political affairs (hereinafter Choi Jae-sung): Hello.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: The national mourning period has been set for the Muan Jeju Air flight disaster, and there are talks of support from both the ruling and opposition parties. How do you judge whether the contents of the accident and the contents of the politics are responding well?

◇ Choi Jae-sung: Isn't this the biggest disaster that happened at an airport in Korea? And another tragedy that occurred in the crisis of the Republic of Korea in the absence of the president. The impossible has happened, so we need to analyze the cause of the accident well this time, including airlines, aircraft, airports, operations, and management supervision, and clearly hold them accountable according to the results. I think it's something that has been challenged this time to even make such efforts to prevent recurrence in the future.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, since it was an accident that no one imagined and no one dared to think about, he made the point that how to deal with and prevent accidents afterwards is also important, but it is often reported that it is a little uncomfortable from the perspective of the bereaved families. It was also reported yesterday that the government said it would serve the victims in frozen containers, but it was not going well. In these times, even small things can be the object of anger and criticism to many people. If you could give me a word of advice on these things.

◇ Choi Jae-sung: First of all, the main body is in operation, but isn't there the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport and the Ministry of Public Administration and Security? The Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport may be the relevant ministry in this accident, and the role of the Ministry of Public Administration and Security becomes the most important when the central government is in operation. But isn't Choi Sang-mok the acting head of the Ministry of Economy and Finance? the Minister of Information and Communication And the prime minister is absent. You were impeached. That's why the vice prime minister is acting as an acting president, so the president is virtually suspended from his duties and does not exist. Although the position is maintained. And then there's no prime minister. This is because the Minister of Economy and Finance is acting as an agent, so it has fundamental limitations in dealing with major disasters like this in the first place. I think it is a situation where there is a fundamental problem such as confusion or difficulty in the response process. So, various briefings are also centralized, and the bereaved families raise questions about these issues, and confusion becomes inevitable.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: You talked about the problem of the control tower integrating the Ministry of Education, but this is not accurate even for the Constitutional Court. I said it's a misrepresentation. There's no acting. I organized it like this, "It's just an acting president." But as you mentioned earlier, you pointed out that the acting system, including the Ministry of Public Administration and Security, is an unstable factor. In fact, such problems have not yet been revealed much in the course of the settlement, but it seems to have an impact on dealing with various state issues that follow. What do you think? This agency system is.

◇ Choi Jae-sung: First of all, what is the first task of the acting system? in a presidential state It's about finishing the agency system quickly.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: So you're ending your acting job quickly.

◇ Choi Jae-sung: That's right. That's the first task. The first task of the agency system is to quickly end the agency system and proceed with the timetable so that state power can function normally. Isn't this the cause of the acting system because the president was impeached due to the president's martial law? So the primary task is to quickly end the agency system. It is right to remove the cause quickly before the question of whether the acting system is right or wrong and whether it is right to continue to impeach the acting system. We have to work together on this, but the political situation is not like that, so it's frustrating and the people are worried.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: He also pointed out that the purpose of the precarious agency system is to end the agency system quickly. Bilateral special prosecution due tomorrow. There are two types of independent counsel law, the independent counsel law for civil war. How do you think it will be handled? The ruling party is talking about the exercise of the right to request a veto, and the opposition party is in a position to deal with it quickly.

◇ Choi Jae-sung: For me, the veto and pardon power of the president or acting president. It's the same with martial law. I can do it all.Yes, if you look at the relevant laws. Instead, it is said that the authority to appoint public officials or the right to lead the military is done. That's why the veto, amnesty, and martial law rights, which are stated to be possible, are subject to extraordinary measures that mainly go beyond the separation of powers. The right to pardon is the same for martial law because the president pardons the issue that has been judged by the judiciary, so the right to veto also rejects passing the National Assembly. So, under the name of the president's own authority, there is authority, but it should be limited. So, of course, the acting president should be rather passive in exercising his veto power, and of course, the president should be limited in exercising his veto power. To me, vetoing is not in line with this purpose in the first place. I think it's limited. I think it's going to be an event. by acting chief executive Choi Sang-mok Still, the reason is that we have no choice but to veto the two special prosecutors and go to the procedure recommended by the National Assembly to appoint a justice of the Constitutional Court. So I will veto the two special prosecutors by acting chief justice Choi Sang-mok. I'm looking at it like this.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: What do you think, listeners? It's the difference between "I can do it" and "I can do it." It seems to be a position that the veto can be done, that is, it is a limited position and that the appointment should be made, but there is no choice but to do what can be done for the things that need to be done. From the Democratic Party's point of view, it will eventually be a waiting situation again. Analysts say that the impeachment of Acting President Choi Sang-mok and other measures are a little limited.

◇ Choi Jae-sung: That's right. I'm going to impeach you. There are many difficulties for the Democratic Party to actually do that in reality. So at this time of acting Choi Sang-mok, at least the appointment of a justice of the Constitutional Court. In terms of getting and achieving the appointment like this. If you don't talk about impeachment or make an appointment, it's difficult to come out saying that you'll impeach.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: In this situation, first of all, the power of the people was launched by Kwon Young-se, chairman of the emergency committee. I think you've heard a lot of the first impressions of the launch. The apology was also comprehensive and the Gwanghwamun people, who said they were heartbroken, are referring to who? How did you see it?

◇ Choi Jae-sung: Isn't there a cause for every problem? Then you say you're apologizing, but then why are you apologizing? This wasn't done because of illegal martial law. So you have to apologize for martial law. But why does the power of the people apologize for the president's illegal martial law? It's not martial law that surprised the people and made the people absurd. However, because it is a party that produced the president, it is a common destiny, so it is called the ruling party. So, as the ruling party with the president, I have to apologize for causing concern to the people and confusing the people through martial law. Then why apologize? Why apologize because of martial law? If it's illegal, it's illegal, and if it's unconstitutional, it's unconstitutional, but the people's power is so absurd that it's impossible to expect such a story. And then an apology for impeachment. I don't know what you're apologizing for impeachment. Then, the interpretation is more focused on "I apologized for failing to prevent impeachment in the National Assembly." After that, I was heartbroken to see the people who came out in the cold weather in Gwanghwamun. And I'll remember that. This is not meant to the people who said to impeach President Yoon, but to the people who oppose impeachment. That's why Kwon Young-se, the chairman of the emergency committee, said, "This is an apology, but actually did not apologize, but rather misled the situation and rather slandered the people." In the future, the power of the people has clearly opposed impeachment and the civil war, and has already done so. So it's a declaration that we will do politics with the most extreme right side of our society, and we have no choice but to go like that. This is about dressing up the people in disguise of an apple. And in the future, people's power politics will join those who make the most extreme arguments on the right side of our society.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: The power of the people under the emergency committee chairman Kwon Young-se, who is trying to hold hands with the most extreme right. I think we need to look at the investigation of the allegations of emergency martial law. According to the prosecution's indictment against former Minister Kim Yong-hyun, "Break the door and drag it out even by shooting." Crush the door with an axe and go inside. Four people pull one out. If martial law doesn't work, I'll do martial law twice or three times. He said, but President Yoon said it was a false claim and an arrest warrant was requested. I'm refuting it. How should I judge it?

◇ Choi Jae-sung: I think it's possible to do that with a problem of expression, whether it's actually reported and timely, in terms of its content or expression. But the key point of this is that direct instructions from the president are confirmed during the martial law process. So even if it's a cut-throat expression and it's not an expression like this, even if it's not an expression like this by firing a gun, the key point is that the president himself ordered it.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, whether this is a metaphor or a direct order from the president, there have been various attempts to interfere with the function of the National Assembly. You're talking about this, right?

◇ Choi Jae-sung: Yes, and since this is not one person, but secured by the testimony and statements of several commanders, direct instructions from the president. That's why we have to pay attention to this, but it was legal for Kim Yong-hyun to accuse Lee Jae-myung, Han Dong-hoon, and Park Joo-min. As a way to claim that martial law was warmed up, I filed a reverse accusation. But what's a little pathetic is that he accused me of violating the decree. So that's the legality of martial law. It seems like a comedy that Kim Yong-hyun, who claims to be legitimate, and others came out with a false declaration as a reason for the accusation, but what should I say? Their argument itself is an argument that cannot be understood normally, but I think it is the result of falling into it.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: The Airborne Service, which includes the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, has filed a warrant for the arrest of President Yoon Suk Yeol. The Seoul Western District Court has yet to make a decision for nearly 30 hours, so what do you think will happen?

◇ Choi Jae-sung: I think an arrest warrant is issued. I'm also seeing that I need to issue it. First of all, President Yoon Suk Yeol is leaving traces of his disadvantage step by step. The Constitutional Court refused to accept the existing delivery documents at all and did not attend the investigation three times, such as procedures and requests for attendance. Then, in the end, this will also issue an arrest warrant, and you will have provided another basis. So I think it has to be issued and it has no choice but to be issued.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, it will be issued. That's the view. On the part of the President of Yoon Suk Yeol, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is not guilty of rebellion in the crimes subject to investigation. They continue to insist that the crime of rebellion is not a crime of rebellion because they have the authority to investigate, but the other is whether the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has the authority to request an arrest warrant and investigate the crime of rebellion. What do you think?

◇ Choi Jae-sung: Oh, so. Already when the prosecution is requesting a warrant for the commanders. It's also the same with search and seizure warrants. Didn't the prosecution start with abuse of authority and go into rebellion because they didn't have the authority to investigate rebellion? Because the court has accepted it, the interpretation of this is actually a matter that has already ended. The police have the right to investigate the crime of rebellion itself, but there are two types of corruption. What's different from the prosecution is that the prosecution investigated the crime of rebellion through dereliction of duty, and the court admitted it in the process of requesting a warrant and a search warrant. However, there is one more thing that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is investigating, and there are things that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit can request for transfer. Therefore, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit does not have the right to directly investigate the case itself, but it has this right to demand a transfer of a case that began with a dereliction of duty and began with a dereliction of duty, so it seems that the investigation situation exists a little more grounded than the prosecution's case that the court has already accepted. In this regard, President Yoon Suk Yeol's argument is a difficult argument to accept.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, the investigation into alleged civil war as a related crime will be because there are already other cases of investigations into military commanders, including former Minister Kim Yong-hyun. That's how I predicted it. The results will probably come out today.

◇ Choi Jae-sung: Anyway, the arrest warrant itself has to be processed within a week. Perhaps the court is also considering it.

◆ [Kim Woosung] Yes, sir. And in this situation, you said in principle that the purpose of the agency is to end this agency system quickly, so is that why? There is a high interest in early presidential elections. The Hong Joon Pyo market seems to have a lot of presence and activities in the pan-Yeou region, but it's the current market. Let's put down the Daegu market. Is this what it means? What do you think?

◇ Choi Jae-sung: There are two ways. Because it's an early presidential election. Also, even if it's a general presidential election, shouldn't we go through the election while maintaining our position? To hold a presidential election. So there may be a way to do it while maintaining your position as mayor. There is a way to put down the mayor's job, but I think I'll put it down because of Mayor Hong's style.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, the opposition party is a little bit about representative Lee Jae-myung. What should I say? A strong situation is being discussed, but should I say it's a possibility that other people like Chairman Woo Won-sik are also selected? I wonder if there are any variables or something. What do you think?

◇ Choi Jae-sung: At the moment, I think there is little possibility that the overwhelming approval rating of representative Lee Jae-myung will falter. Chairman Woo Won-sik showed very stable and outstanding leadership in the process of lifting martial law, so I think the temporary public reaction to this caused him to emerge as second place in the opposition. I think it's not easy to become a sensation and a typhoon in the process of actually deciding the opposition's presidential candidate.

◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. Thank you for talking with me today. I met you on the phone today. Choi Jae-sung was a former senior presidential secretary for political affairs.