Jung Sung-guk "Han Dong-hoon is the first to block emergency martial law..."It will come out when the people call you".

[YTN radio news fighting]

□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15-09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: December 31, 2024 (Tue)
□ Host: Kim Woo-sung PD
□ Starter: Jung Sung-guk, lawmaker of the People's Power

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◆ PD Kim Woo-sung (hereinafter referred to as Kim Woo-sung): All the people are in a difficult situation due to an unimaginable disaster. Not only the government but also the political community are working together to overcome the crisis. I hope that the tension and conflict in politics will be resolved as well as overcoming the crisis, and we have invited those who will tell us that. I'm Jung Sung-guk, a member of the People's Power. Please come in.

◇ Member for the People's Power (hereinafter referred to as Jung Sung-guk): Yes, hello.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: I will do my best to deal with the Jeju Air plane disaster at Muan Airport. Everyone is talking about this, but you're an educator again. There are sacrifices for children, and I think you'll have a different mind to see the accident.

◇ Jung Sung-guk: Yes, it's very heartbreaking. Especially when you first came across the news, didn't it first come out that there were 2 rescuers at first? There must be some survivors when you hear that.

◆ [Kim Woosung] That's right. Until we know the details of the report.

◇ Jung Sung-guk: So I was looking forward to it. I'm sure all the people were looking forward to it. However, it was very heartbreaking as the gloomy news came along, and as soon as I heard that I had been to Bangkok, there is a possibility that this is the vacation period. So, it's a situation where it's really heartbreaking as it's possible to predict that the family has been going with their children, and something that shouldn't have happened, so it's even more heartbreaking as an educator.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: The education authorities and the local offices of education are talking about it now, especially if you are not the person directly involved in the accident. If your children watch videos or news on YouTube or something, it can be psychologically dangerous. I think parents should watch this a lot, and the National Assembly will thoroughly prepare such things with related agencies.

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: I think that's an important thing to say.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: This is the situation, but it's hard right now. It's an agency system. It's an acting president, Choi Sang-mok. Will it work? I think there's also a party's position that the Democratic Party of Korea has created an acting system, making it more difficult.

◇ Jung Sung-guk: President Ye is not here, and the prime minister is impeached, right? So, for the first time in our constitutional history, I am the acting deputy prime minister now. Of course, there can be concerns about that. Isn't it a very serious crisis nationally because there was a big disaster in this situation? In this situation, I think our political circles should have a single voice. So the saddest part is that there are a lot of things you want to say. Isn't there something you want to say from the perspective of the people's power and something you want to say from the perspective of the Democratic Party? But these stories that I want to tell shouldn't be annoying and political when the people look at them. In particular, haven't we decided on a period of national mourning? In addition, we should refrain from talking about political strife that annoys the people and does this amid the atmosphere that the entire nation is now paying tribute to. I hope our political circles will practice it.

◆ [Kim Woo-sung] So you said a really good thing. He said that the political circles of the Republic of Korea should speak out in one voice, not one voice from each party, but the party has been reorganized under the emergency committee chairman Kwon Young-se. Now, the emergency committee members have been decided and key party members have been decided, but Kwon Young-se should speak out within the power of the people. I think you're emphasizing this. How do you see it?

◇ Jung Sung-guk: Yes, our party was also divided in a way due to the impeachment case. There were also criticisms of each other, so I felt like this party was very divided.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: After the pros and cons of impeachment.

◇ Jung Sung-guk: For that reason. However, I don't think there is much of a concern right now. I think we are restraining each other's voices because we are also feeling a sense of crisis now. In particular, wasn't the emergency committee chairman newly appointed yesterday? And the emergency committee members and the party workers. All the key party officials have also been appointed. So in a way, Chairman Kwon Young-se is in a position to start anew. So, in his written inauguration speech yesterday, he conveyed to the people that he is sorry for martial law and impeachment. I think Chairman Kwon Young-se is well aware of the people's feelings because he conveyed the basic purpose, minds, and positions of our people's power yesterday. So I'm hoping that you'll lead our party well in that direction.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: In the previous session, Choi Jae-sung, former senior presidential secretary for political affairs, interviewed us, saying, "There was no apology for the specific reason, but I clumped," and "I said it was heartbreaking to think about the Gwanghwamun people, which Gwanghwamun people are you talking about?"

◇ Jung Sung-guk: There can be such a point. In particular, it can be said in the Democratic Party of Korea that it is weak or that it is not sincere because it was said in the written inauguration speech. But I think there's something like this called sugar. It's right to look at the people. So, the reason why we are consistently polling on impeachment now is that 75% of people approve and 20% disapprove of impeachment, right? However, it is clear that 75% of the people should read the eye level properly. CEO Han Dong-hoon also voted for impeachment because he voiced that voice. However, I think there are many things that we cannot miss the 20% of hearts that have supported our party so far and held our party until the end. As a result, if the leadership abandons this part and continues to speak in such a way as public opinion or people's wishes, there may be resistance to those who can be called our active supporters, so I think that as the chairman of the emergency committee, you must have been concerned about that.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: You interpreted it well in the sense of pain and suffering. Representative Kim Sang-wook took the lead in lifting the emergency martial law and approving the impeachment bill, and he pointed out, "The impeachment of President Yoon Suk Yeol is not a battle between liberals and conservatives, but a matter of protecting democracy." How do you rate this remark?

◇ Jung Sung-guk: Our lawmaker Kim Sang-wook is a junior I really care about. They're the same first-timers, but they're like brothers. And I respect those parts of lawmaker Kim Sang-wook very much. Respect and this is the right thing to say. Rather than looking at this part only with the logic of our camp, the power of the Korean people also acknowledges that the emergency martial law itself is wrong. There is no one who has done a good job of emergency martial law in the power of our people. In particular, during the emergency martial law, we would have had no choice but to become such a martial law advocacy party without the 18 members of the Korean People's Power. There is no reason to say that. However, since the representative declared that martial law was wrong and there were people who ran there, let's not forget those feelings, Rep. Kim Sang-wook. Martial law was wrong, so in this part, we are now impeached, and I think we have conveyed our thoughts that these parts should be resolved well even after the impeachment was made.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: I would like to ask you more about the situation, but as you mentioned earlier, you said that it is difficult to accept the hearts of 25% of active supporters and 75% of the people. Acting President Choi Sang-mok has a Cabinet meeting today, and attention is being paid to the so-called Civil War Special Prosecutor Act and the Special Prosecutor Kim Gun-hee Act. In the case of former Senior Secretary for Political Affairs Choi Jae-sung, in advance, he predicted that he would reject the special prosecution law and appoint a justice of the Constitutional Court in the case of appointment as the head of the administration. What do you think?

◇ Jung Sung-guk: I think it's hard to affirm this. Because if you look at our party's position so far, it is expected that it will ask for the right to veto the Insurrection Special Counsel Act and the Kim Gun-hee Special Counsel Act. Dear Acting President Choi Sung-mok. Then, rather than just accepting the meaning of refusing 100% of that part, we can look at parts with unconstitutional elements and things like this one more time. When I come back to the National Assembly, I think there is room for negotiation. However, it is very complicated to solve this in a strategic way rather than to connect this part on the grounds that there is room for negotiation and to appoint three constitutional judges. So I think I can't just keep turning off the appointment of three constitutional judges like this. So our Deputy Prime Minister Choi Sang-mok will make a judgment at an appropriate time, and public opinion will be formed more, right? I will judge by looking at this process. I'm looking at it like this.

◆ [Kim Woo-sung] Yes, that's the situation. Now, if the right to request reconsideration, known as the right to veto, is exercised, it will be re-voted. Spokesperson Ho Jun-seok also came out and talked about it this week, but there may be a breakaway vote on the independent counsel law as in the case of the impeachment bill. I think that's the kind of atmosphere. What do you think?

◇ Jung Sung-guk: It's very difficult to predict right now. It's difficult, but the part that the independent counsel law is burdensome is that if we investigate the parts about the civil war, wouldn't there be many recognized cases? If that happens, I think there will be parts where our party can be attacked. I can't help but feel burdened about those things. It's hard to say that now, but I think there's something like this right now. When Han Deok-soo was impeached, all of our lawmakers, including Ahn Cheol Soo, went in and we protested, didn't we? Of course, some of you voted, but the reason why we did those things is because we are clearly wrong in martial law and impeachment, but we cannot help but worry about the Democratic Party using it as a political battle or paralyzing the nation's system through this.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: During the impeachment vote of Acting President Han Deok-soo.

◇ Jung Sung-guk: That's right. We're very nervous about those trends and there's a very cautious atmosphere. So, because of that, I will express that it is too early to predict how the departure vote will come out on the Special Prosecutor Act.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Since we are in the new emergency committee system right now, rather than saying it in an analytical way, he said it in the direction of resolving it. Kwon Young-se, chairman of the emergency committee, is also criticizing the opposition party's decision, saying, "We will drive all of them to the subject of investigation by branding them against the power of the people." We talked about this situation. For now, an arrest warrant has been requested for President Yoon Suk Yeol for the investigation into the alleged rebellion, and the Seoul Western District Court has yet to make a decision for more than 30 hours. This is shocking for the party that produced the president. What do you think?

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: Didn't you expect the results to come out as early as last night or this morning? So the first thing I checked as soon as I woke up in the morning was whether this arrest warrant was issued. But I don't think it's been issued yet at this time. I think there could be a situation like this. It's because there's no example of this, isn't there? What is particularly clear is that there is no such item that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit can investigate the crime of rebellion. So, it is said that it is a crime of abuse of authority, but can you commit rebellion while investigating the crime of abuse of authority? There is a lot of controversy over this part right now. Then, from the president's point of view, he should be judged by impeachment, and in the process, he will try to say what he wants to say or claim his legitimacy, right? However, when you pointed out whether the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is the right place to investigate the crime of rebellion, this is a situation where the president's argument cannot be completely wrong. So, the court's decision on this part is inevitably very careful right now, and this ripple is so big that I think I'm struggling right now.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: There may be procedural or formal defects. This kind of criticism.

◇ Jung Sung-guk: That's enough to point out. So there may be some public criticism of whether that part of course is not properly investigated or is trying to avoid it. However, when I pointed out that part, it was different from the part where it was 100% wrong to argue with the story, so if it had been, the arrest warrant would have been requested right away. However, the fact that the court is struggling to this extent is not a very easy problem right now.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: The Seoul District Court has been agonizing for so long. That's what they're talking about. Assuming that it is issued, you have to ask for the cooperation of the security service again. I don't think the appearance of a conflict itself will be very bad for the people. What do you think?

◇ Jung Sung-guk: I'm also very worried. Aren't there stories about the possibility of an arrest warrant being claimed? Because they refused to attend three times, they say there is a high probability that it will be issued, but if it is issued, there will be a problem with the security service. When you go in with an arrest warrant, the security service will try to have a justification to stop it. Especially because you can present military security and things like that, because you're impeached now, but you're the president. Also, this has never happened in our constitutional history, so just because the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is now taking an arrest warrant and going in with the cause of arrest, the security service may not be able to open the door completely like this. Then, I'm worried that there might be scenes that the people don't even want to see.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Some in the party say that they can attend the investigation trial because they said they would confidently participate in the president's public statement instead of making such a situation.

◇ Jung Sung-guk: I agree with that. Last time, I also said that on the show, but the investigation and judgment are already underway, and I'm also thinking that it's right for the president to be confident about that.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, it's not someone else's words to say that you're going to do it confidently. And since it's what the president himself said, we have to keep it. I'll talk about this one more time. Against this backdrop, the party is literally an emergency committee. So it's a leadership system to take countermeasures against emergencies. Rather than calling for a different appearance than before, some point out that it is not particularly different from the past, but it is an atmosphere that emphasizes unity of the party and consistency toward the central point, and whether this can overcome the emergency situation.

◇ Jeong Seong-guk: If you look at the composition of the emergency committee now, I think there are signs of great distress. But to tell you what I'm sad about, the people who said we were close. I don't see anyone who has talked so much about innovation and change with CEO Han. Looking at that, I think it is emphasized as a part of continuing the thoughts of the party's leaders, including the floor leader, who is currently holding the stance of the party. It is not easy to expect major changes or innovations while looking at the appointment. The most burdensome part right now is that Kwon Young-se, the emergency committee chairman, or Kwon Sung-dong, the floor leader, are recognized as pro-yoon by the Korean people. However, it is regrettable that there should be many people who can lead the change and innovation of those who work with them. Then, I think we should wait and see how the people will see the way our party moves forward because of these parts.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, that's why you're a five-term lawmaker right now. Pastor Jeon Kwang-hoon used to be disciplined by the party in the case of the best Kim Jae-won, but I think many people are worried about attending the rally.

◇ Jung Sung-guk: Yes, isn't the part we go to the rally very careful in our party? You made that judgment, so I don't think I'm going to evaluate it. We can say that various voices can be heard in our party, but we're a five-term senior. This is how I accept the weight of being a senior. I'm new to this, but even when I'm an educator, the more experience I have compared to first-time teachers, the more careful I am in my words and actions. So, I think I thought a lot about what I say as a senior teacher is recognized by junior teachers. What we're disappointed about seeing the senior members is that the senior members are our first-term lawmakers, right? It is very important for these lawmakers to be cautious and dignified. That way, the acceptance rate that we accept when such people talk once in a while will increase, and won't it be a great help for our party to become more united? But when those people look a little different from him, we can never say that it's desirable even when we look at it. I'll tell you that.

◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. the weight and responsibility of a senior member I hope you know it yourself, too. That's what he said with regret. The impeachment trial is underway and the result is unknown, but if impeachment is cited, it is an early presidential election. It should be held under the emergency committee system, and the more players in the ruling camp and the more people supported by the public, the more advantageous it may be, but within that, can the Hong Joon Pyo mayor be said to be a strong competitor while actively taking steps? There was a survey like that, but this is the expression of former CEO Han Dong-hoon.I expressed it like this. "A bird whose wings have been bent once cannot fly. ” There's a lot of checks coming in. What do you think? In this situation.

◇ Jung Sung-guk: You might think that's the strongest candidate you can't overcome. I think that the meaning of checking strongly means that I'm that nervous and think strongly. And even if an early presidential election takes place, CEO Han Dong-hoon has never announced that he will run or not.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: We haven't revealed it yet.

◇ Jung Sung-guk: I didn't reveal it. I didn't, and now I'm spending time alone, right? It's been nearly 15 days since he resigned as CEO, but he's hardly been seen right now. In the meantime, I don't think the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo needs to bring up and evaluate the person in the middle. I think so, and the most incomprehensible part of what the mayor of Hong Joon Pyo says is that representative Han Dong-hoon is a traitor in favor of impeachment, and Mayor Oh Se-hoon said it was regrettable that he voted for impeachment, but there must have been circumstances. There must have been circumstances in its own way. I think almost an absolute majority of the people will probably shake their heads on this part. So, when you express this, wouldn't it be right for those who want to become leaders of a country to say something that can give trust to the people?

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, the emergency martial law and civil war are also a bit of an advocate, but if you suddenly talk about the presidential election, it doesn't fit logically. Former CEO Han Dong-hoon did not appear, but he also sent a public message to the Muan Jeju Air disaster, asking him to do his best to save even one more person. Because you communicate with each other often. I wonder if there is a position like this when I have to prepare.

◇ Jung Sung-guk: The will of the representative is important, but I think there should be a time when the people, especially many supporters of our conservative party, call out Han Dong-hoon. I think that's a much more natural and good look. But I see the value of CEO Han Dong-hoon like this. As soon as the emergency martial law was declared, Han Dong-hoon was the first to block the emergency martial law. And I was the person who ran to the National Assembly with representative Han Dong-hoon at that time. If representative Han Dong-hoon didn't make such a decision at that time, we didn't expect so many Democratic Party members to come to the National Assembly at the time, but there were more than we thought. But let's say that the number was really below the majority. Then, I think the value of the 18 of us went to will come when the evaluation of CEO Han Dong-hoon will come out again. Since there are so many urgent things going on right now, there may be parts that have not been mentioned much about them, but I think the value will definitely come out. Then, the people expect that if it's time for our conservative supporters to find Han Dong-hoon, then CEO Han Dong-hoon might make a decision.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, I will end by saying that we should wait for the voice of the people, not the voice of former representative Han Dong-hoon. Thank you for talking with me today.

◇ Jung Sung-guk: Yes, thank you.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: It was a member of the People's Power Jung Sung-guk.