Jang Kyung-tae, "Are you against the special prosecutor's office for rebellion? The power of the people should also be judged by an unconstitutional party."

[YTN radio news fighting]

□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15-09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: January 2, 2025 (Thursday)
□ Host: Kim Woo-sung PD
□ Castor: Jang Kyung-tae, Democratic Party of Korea lawmaker

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◆ PD Kim Woo-sung (hereinafter referred to as Kim Woo-sung): Yes, it's time for "Youth Regret". Let's look at the world a little more hot and sharp with the eyes of young politicians. You're the chairman of the Seoul Metropolitan Party of the Democratic Party, right? You came to the studio of Representative Jang Kyung-tae. First of all, it's a very difficult time to say hello, but I hope you have a lot of good things in the new year.

◇ Rep. Jang Kyung-tae of the Democratic Party of Korea (hereinafter referred to as Jang Kyung-tae): Yes, happy new year.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Now, the political situation continues to be hectic. Acting President Choi Sang-mok appointed two of the three candidates for the Constitutional Court, which the ruling and opposition parties agreed to in November. The chief secretaries of the presidential secretaries have expressed their collective resignation. How things are going

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: So the most important principle and goal now is to restore the constitutional order. I think it's a disproving that the constitutional order is still not being restored properly. Therefore, under the Constitutional Court Act, nine constitutional judges are constituted by the principle of separation of powers. There was also a statement by floor leader Kwon Sung-dong when he was chairman of the Judiciary Committee in 2017 that the president only needed formal confirmation of the three recommended by the National Assembly. The acting authority Choi Sang-mok exercised this formal confirmation process, which is natural, and anyway, he actively exercised it in addition to this veto, but he chose it out of the three constitutional judges and made it two people. In addition, the presidential chief of staff and the chief secretary are now expressing their resignation over the two.
◇ Jang Kyung-tae: I wonder if the president's office really has the will to restore the constitutional order right now, but rather, with the aftershocks of the civil war continuing now, this is also an incitement of civil war. Anyway, even after the declaration of the emergency martial law, didn't Lee's chiefs and senior secretaries express their resignation? Then, I think the emergency martial law is wrong, but the appointment of a constitutional judge is not possible, so it doesn't add up right now. In order to quickly restore the constitutional order, the Constitutional Court must have at least 7 members, but since there were 6 members, even two of them were confirmed by acting Choi Sang-mok, and it doesn't make sense to resign with this. I think it's a brazen behavior without any reflection and apology.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Now, the Ministry of Economy and Finance interpreted that it means that I will not dwell on my seat, but the acting Choi himself also said that the cadastral cries of the members of the State Council came and went. I'm going to resign myself on the spot. be prepared to resign He said he made this comment, but he is still an acting president but he is running state affairs.

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: So in the case of acting Prime Minister Choi Sun-mok, I think he thinks that as the Minister of Economy and Finance, we should lower the economic uncertainty now and run the state as stable as possible. But in this situation, if we continue to shake the acting president even within the cabinet meeting, what on earth would we do to run the state administration? Even now, it is not the acting president of the Korea Communications Commission or the head of the Legislative Office who protested strongly, but it is known that Kim Eun-soo, the Minister of Employment and Labor, did not attend the emergency martial law declaration ceremony at the time. Nevertheless, as a member of the State Council who failed to prevent emergency martial law, those who are responsible are protesting against this natural process of confirming the appointment of a constitutional judge. It is too brazen to say that this is an irresponsible act without responsibility.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: It was a kind of assessment where the word responsibility is heard a lot. The Democratic Party's position came out on the appointment of only two out of the three. Some criticized that this is beyond the real authority of the National Assembly, but he's holding off on acting Choi for now. Impeachment is now being pursued or

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: First of all, we believe that the restoration of the constitutional order comes first. That's why each of these constitutional institutions now has a constitutional institution above this government agency, which is the most basic order. That's why I think it's time for constitutional institutions to gather all these wisdom. We are clearly pointing out the problem with this excessively, and at the same time, we are watching it with considerable patience.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: The Kim Gun-hee Special Prosecutor Act and the Insurrection Special Prosecutor Act exercised the right to reject the right to request reconsideration. Is the party preparing another alternative to this, Acting President Choi?

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: First of all, my right to request is going to be handed over to the National Assembly, so when I come from Song Unit, we will think about the timing of my request and such things. Of course, the public's power is continuously adopting the rejection party theory with the party theory against the independent counsel against Kim Gun-hee, so I have a personal opinion that continuing to reject the independent counsel against the rebellion should be judged as an unconstitutional party. This is a serious situation in the National Assembly's emergency plan, as it was an accomplice, helper, and emergency martial law when the emergency martial law was lifted. Isn't it true that this chrysanthemum is also an emergency martial law if it becomes a wartime situation or an incident? Then, the emergency plan of the National Assembly is the role of the National Assembly, such as gathering in the plenary hall to vote on this declaration of war, or voting on the presence of foreign troops, or organizing an extra budget for events such as war costs.
◇ Jang Kyung-tae: But we're all here. From this, I believe that I am subject to this object of an unconstitutional party. When the Unified Progressive Party was dissolved in the past, wasn't it because it didn't cooperate with the democratic order? In this unprecedented situation that is currently destroying the constitutional order, the people's power continues to reject the independent counsel and obstruct the appointment of a constitutional judge. This itself seems to be a violation of the constitutional order now.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Is there a situation in which the party is talking about a request for a trial for dissolution of an unconstitutional party?

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: Yes, not really.

◆ Kim Woo-sung : Representative Jang Kyung-tae

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: I consulted with some members of Congress,

◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. It was the same during the resolution to lift martial law last time, and there were also lawmakers who participated with conviction within the power of the people, including the resolution of the impeachment motion against President Yoon Suk Yeol. The double special prosecution law is also being re-tested. Then, I think there will be a judgment within the Democratic Party of Korea on the extent to which lawmakers from within the People's Power will respond a little.

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: In the case of a vote on this proposal, you have to attend because attendance is two-thirds of the present. Therefore, I hope that there will be a conscientious vote there because it is the principle of anonymous voting. Nevertheless, with the emergence of Kwon Young-se, I don't know what changes have been made in the change from acting party leader Sang Kwon Sung-dong to emergency committee chairman Kwon Young-soo. Yes, and I don't know what I'm apologizing for, and I don't think there's a proper apology for that now, so I don't expect a big change in my position, but I hope a few conscientious lawmakers will come out anyway. Yes

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Now, many say that the arrest warrant for the incumbent president for President Yoon Suk Yeol is an unprecedented situation. The court issued a search warrant together, and the court attached a clue. The grounds that it is not possible for military or security confidential reasons do not apply. So, I can do it. In this regard, the security service will be executed within six days. There is no prior consultation. It's just... I won't look rough. This nuance comes out, so how do you forecast it?

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: I think we have to execute today. It would have been great if it had to be executed today at the end of the year, but at the latest, I think today is the Maginot Line. Anyway, the court really issued an unprecedented arrest warrant and even a search warrant, right? The reason for issuing the search and seizure warrant was that the security service issued a search and seizure warrant to President Lee's residence because they were afraid of hiding the so-called Yoon Suk Yeol, and they requested the warrant, but they also issued it.
◇ Jang Kyung-tae: In the process, exceptions to Article 110-111 of the Criminal Code are never allowed. Because it clearly stated this part, it was confirmed that it was a measure that could never be protected for military or official purposes. Even if we issued various accompanying orders at the National Assembly, the security service blocked the lawmakers from performing their duties, but if the court's warrant is obstructed, I think this is really a national flag disorder. This is why the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is taking issue with the charge of obstructing the execution of public affairs, but if the security service blocks it, the concealment of four criminals is three years in prison, so I may have to apply not only obstruction of public affairs but also concealment of criminals.
◇ Jang Kyung-tae: They say that the police can deploy a mobile team or even exercise physical force like this, but anyway, whether it's a security agency or a police mobile police agency, it means as much as possible

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Civil servants

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: So, everyone is suffering like this right now because of Yoon Suk Yeol, and what are the security agents guilty of right now? If you look at everything, you're going to be a criminal.

◆ [Kim Woo-sung] That's right. In such a situation, President Seok Yoon Suk Yeol's lawyer continues to say that the arrest warrant is invalid, and there is one reason why the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is investigating the rebellion. Second, there was talk of disciplining the judge. Where can I look at the criminal law? There are no exceptions to the President's Office or to important state agencies. The judge is arguing that it's wrong. How to judge

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: First of all, not only the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, but also the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, which has the right to prosecute, and the police and the Ministry of National Defense's investigation headquarters set up a joint text. That's why it includes the police who have the authority to investigate rebellion. Since the national script is included, of course, I think this right to investigate it should be guaranteed. I don't feel it worth mentioning to discipline the judge who issued the warrant. I think it's a little too low-quality. Yoon Suk Yeol's lawyers don't feel worth mentioning. Articles 110 and 111 of this Criminal Law do not allow consent except in cases that harm the state's significant interests, but the court issued a warrant saying that it should be approved, and isn't Mr. Yoon Suk Yeol a serious national damage right now?
◇ Jang Kyung-tae: The court issued a warrant to quickly arrest and search for those who are causing such enormous national losses, but they are not the ones who hide in the palace and protect their individuals. That's why we have to protect the constitutional order. That's why I told you at the public statement without causing inconvenience to others. You said you would investigate and be tried proudly and confidently. Why do you keep hiding and refuse to serve the Constitutional Court's requests for various documents? I've never seen such irresponsible and really pathetic people. It's a pity that I elected someone like this as president, but I hope that I keep at least one promise I made in this public statement.

◆ [Kim Woo-sung] Now there's a pro-impeachment rally around the presidential residence in Yoon Suk Yeol. In particular, anti-impeachment, or supporters of President Yoon Suk Yeol, are rallying on YouTube in real-time, and President Yoon Suk Yeol sent a personal letter. I'm a friend who signed it and I'm watching you all working hard through real-time live YouTube. I will fight to the end. It's a situation where I signed and sent it like this. Some are worried that there will be a conflict because of this content.

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: I'm still watching Google YouTubers. And looking at the expression that I'm rooting for you, I thought that the state of affairs has been broken like that because I've been running state affairs until now in such a mental state. That's not only the crime of rebellion, but of course, it's a brain attack, but wasn't that also guilty of inciting rebellion that lawmaker Lee Seok-ki applied to? I think it's a rebellion. A clear charge has just been added. I think that the announcement of that useless message during the impeachment trial will also be an issue during the Constitutional Court trial. Right now, I'm constantly telling Google YouTubers and very few supporters to interfere with this physical conflict and the police's legitimate execution of Amar official duties, and that part is probably going to be added to the charges.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, we clarify that it is the personal opinion of Representative Jang Kyung-tae regarding the incitement of the civil war. The People's Power Emergency Committee has been launched. There are evaluations that the two-party system is a road-friendly system under the emergency committee chairman Kwon Young-se, and that it has opened up various voices of the party, including the pro-security community. Please evaluate it first.

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: As I said at the beginning, I think there is only a change from acting Kwon Sung-dong to acting party leader Kwon Young-se to emergency chairman Kwon Young-se. Anyway, isn't Kwon Sung-dong, the floor leader, already the floor leader during the Yoon Suk Yeol presidency, and Kwon Young-se, the chairman of the emergency committee, a former unification minister of the Yoon Suk Yeol government? Then it's just one thing anyway. Until now, it is still common practice to reject the party's rejection of the impeachment bill, reject the appointment of the Constitutional Court, and even reject the independent counsel's rebellion. Therefore, I think this people's power is still the first contributor to the fall as accomplices or helpers of the rebellion. Kwon Young-se, chairman of the emergency committee, is considered to be the first contributor to the people's difficulty. I don't think there's any reason to appreciate the composition of some of the emergency committee and the main party officials in it.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, it's a situation like this, but anyway, the people have more than 100 seats now, so we have to get over that situation anyway, including the re-voting situation mentioned earlier. I think we need to prepare for things like how to communicate or negotiate.

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: So what we've been talking about in the Kim Kwan-ki Special Prosecutor Act and the Choi Hye-byeong Special Prosecutor Act is that we apologize for Choi Hye-byeong's really unfair death. I heard you're reflecting on yourself. Then, the basic apology and reflection for this must be followed by the fact-finding and punishment of the person in charge. Yes, then we asked for an independent counsel to find out the truth to find out the truth and the truth to find out the truth of the person in charge, but they have more than 100 seats, so don't they have legislative power? Even if only 10 members of the National Assembly gather, they can propose a bill. Then I don't know what the plan of the people's power is. There should be a public power plan for the independent counsel against the independent counsel against Chae and Kim Gun-hee, but I wonder what the first bill will be. Shouldn't the first bill of Kwon Young-se's leadership system, at least the independent counsel bill for rebellion, come out? I heard you're apologizing for emergency martial law.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: If you don't like the party's proposal, come to the people's strength.
◇ [Jang Kyung-tae] We have to have this inside. A party with more than 100 seats in the National Assembly yes, and the ruling party is so irresponsible and brazen. So, since the general election is still four years away, I think I maintain this attitude shamelessly.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, but it appeared in the president's expression and was expressed during the emergency, but the opposition party is rushing with huge seats. So there's room for criticism just because you're strong. How do you respond to such criticism?
◇ Jang Kyung-tae: I don't know if we were strong, but we were raided for the first time since the inauguration of the Yoon Suk Yeol regime. Yes, each lawmaker's office was raided. All individual lawmakers were taken to the prosecution police for questioning. I was also investigated. There were countless accusations, and they were investigated countless times. I've been present countless times. Nevertheless, didn't even representative Lee Jae-myung attend the court and continue to trial and hold a general election? By the way, are you the president of Yoon Suk Yeol? Do you have the right to reject a warrant for seizure and search, a request for attendance by the prosecution, and a request for attendance by your junior prosecutors? Even a warrant from a warrant court? Do you have the right to refuse a warrant? I still can't get it together, but I don't know what kind of solo performance we did.
◇ Jang Kyung-tae: To be honest, I think there will be little change in the position as long as the power of the people is maintained as long as the Kwon Young-se system is maintained, but I hope you will reflect on yourself and try to look at the public sentiment to get closer to the people with an apology and a low attitude.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Then the emergency martial law and the apology for impeachment that Kwon Young-se, chairman of the emergency committee, said when he took office, is the same as the previous position anyway. This is hardly an apple.

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: Why do you apologize for impeachment? They say that they were impeached because of the emergency rule, but they admit that they did it wrong and apologize for the impeachment. That's why it doesn't add up. That's why they're self-splitting because of the contradiction. There is no basis or even reason for the people's power to apologize for impeachment now and to apologize on the grounds of impeachment. In order to apologize, you need to provide specific and clear grounds for yourself. But there was no apology for that. That's why I don't know. I hope there's a proper apology and self-reflection. There are so many antinomic stories that I don't know what they're thinking about running the party right now.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, we don't officially talk about the early presidential election because the impeachment trial hasn't been cited yet, but a lot of news and politics are interested. The situation of the opposition party does not seem to change now from the single system, but amid growing interest in the ruling party, we will take them to the studio of former lawmaker Yoo Seung Min at 8 o'clock. We need to reform and repair by expressing that we can't talk about the power of the people because of the civil war. You have to break it and change it. You even used this expression. How do you rate it?

◇ [Jang Kyung-tae] There are some aspects that we have in common. Shouldn't the power of the common people be at the level of re-establishment now, and the leadership system for human composition needs to change significantly, but there is no hope or clue for that. Honestly, I think they'll be frustrated, too. But I hope you remember how strict the judgment of history is. To be honest, starting with Vice Chairman Joo Ho-young, who is currently vice chairman of the National Assembly, Chairman Kim Moon-sung and floor leader Kwon Sung-dong, and even former lawmaker Jang Ji-won were all in favor of impeachment Park Geun Hye. That's why you're still doing legislative activities and political activities while naming names, right? Those who opposed the impeachment of President Park Geun Hye at the time, I won't specifically name them, but are they political now? They've all been judged historically and politically. Those who were vehemently opposed to impeaching Park Geun Hye President, can anyone come out and say it now?
◇ Jang Kyung-tae: So I think the people who are in politics now are the ones who took the lead in the impeachment of President Park Geun Hye before the historical judgment. Please remember that part and as Yoo Seung Min said, no, really, if the power of the people is to change, we have to change everything. From the roots, it's a pity that the human composition won't be like that.

◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. Let me also ask you about the internal situation of this opposition party. Although the remarks are in mind of an early presidential election, representative Lee Jae-myung is overwhelmingly recognized as a presidential candidate and so are polls, and National Assembly Speaker Woo Won-sik is emerging. It's also an unusual situation. How do you see it?

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: Anyway, he quickly lifted the emergency martial law and made various efforts to pass the impeachment motion. Anyway, I think we are trying to restore the constitutional order. If the constitutional order is not restored, the state administration should always be restored. Kwon Young-se, chairman of the emergency committee, said that the state administration should always be restored. Can state administration be done properly? The constitutional order itself is not properly maintained right now, so I think there may be an increase in approval ratings in that area. However, I can mention the approval rating of various supporters, but it seems difficult to mention it until the next presidential election. Anyway, I hope that the constitutional order of the Republic of Korea will be restored and restored quickly. Presidential comments on the presidential election are not appropriate until the Constitutional Court's impeachment trial is concluded

◆ [Kim Woo-sung] That's right. First, I will focus on the impeachment trial of the Constitutional Court and the restoration of constitutional order. That's what you're saying. It is now the national mourning period until January 4th due to the unfortunate disaster. Various investigations are being made regarding the Jeju Air disaster, and in the meantime, there are also things that hurt the hearts of the bereaved families. Do you want to speak as a politician?
◇ Jang Kyung-tae: This part is being investigated by the police. I hope you investigate and punish strongly. Now, for example, only bereaved families are having a windfall. I think I'm smiling at the thought of receiving compensation. Even during the Ferry Sewol, I don't think this kind of writing should end up as just defamation. Yes, I hope you will be punished strongly. These people really need to be isolated from the real society.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: It's a situation where I can't even imagine the wounds of the bereaved family. If there are people around you who are listening to this broadcast now, please agree with the opinion that they should not do so. It is natural that politics is responsible for the law and safety of the people, but politicians must take care of the people's hearts, comfort them, and understand them. There's no such message because there's no situation yet, but you're the chairman of the Seoul Metropolitan Government. The hearts of the people are all heavy in celebrating the new year. Please give me about 40 seconds to understand my feelings.

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: Yeah, last year was really eventful. This year, we will do our best to help the people enjoy their daily lives in peace and tranquility as a politician to restore the constitutional order. I hope you are healthy and blessed this year.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, I was the chairman of the Democratic Party of Korea's Seoul Metropolitan Party. I spoke with Representative Jang Kyung-tae. Thank you.

◇ Jang Kyung-tae: Thank you.