[Issue Plus] The count of execution of President Yoon's arrest warrant...an escalation of tension

■ Host: Anchor Jang Won-seok, Anchor Yoon Bori
■ Starring: Noh Dong-il, Chief Editor of Financial News, Choi Chang-ryul, Special Professor of Yongin University

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[Anchor]
Let's take a look at today's Jungkook situation with the two.

[Anchor]
Noh Dong-il, chief editor of Financial News, and Choi Chang-ryul, a special professor at Yongin University, are here. Hello.

[Anchor]
I just connected with a reporter and told you about the situation in Hannam-dong, Seoul, what do you think? It's getting dark now and it's past 6 p.m., so will the warrant be executed today?

[Work day]
Well, anyway, it's really unfortunate that the president was impeached and an arrest warrant was issued for the president, but we knew that Korea was a democracy and a rule of law, so wouldn't there be a procedure now for such things to be done in accordance with the law? Still, how can you physically block it like that? I don't know why the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit didn't execute today, but if you tried to execute it too hard with that situation in mind, there could be a physical conflict, so you must have considered that. Anyway, again, we have such a law that anticipates such a procedure.

If it is carried out according to the legal process, unfortunate situations and various difficulties caused by emergency martial law will be resolved anyway. It's unfortunate to leave the legal process and try to do something with your physical power, and it makes this difficult situation more difficult again. I think it's something I shouldn't do.

[Anchor]
Professor Choi, there are so many citizens in front of the official residence right now, can you execute it today?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
A warrant was issued on the 31st. It's until January 6, so we still have time. I have time, but it would be burdensome to execute on holidays, because there is a possibility that there will be more protesters. It's supposed to be done before sunrise and after sunset, but Director of Airborne Oh Dong-woon said he would keep his manners because it was yesterday. Being polite can be interpreted as saying that you won't do it before sunrise or after sunset. From that point of view, I think it's going to be difficult today, because the sun has set. But I don't know. Wouldn't it be possible to do it before and after sunrise?

I won't do it until tomorrow. I won't do it until tomorrow's sunrise.Ma, because of what I just told you. Is the sunrise around 7:30? I don't know exactly the sunrise time. I think there's a possibility that we'll do it by then. Then it's the day after tomorrow. If I fail tomorrow. So we can try one or two more times until the 6th. But because the protesters are there like that, some people are lying down now. The police force him to disband.I don't know if I should use the expression "physical conflict" if those people persistently block it like that, but strictly speaking, the state's public power is in the way. So, within the Korean judicial system, everything like that should proceed according to the procedures, but if that happens, there could be a mishap, but I'll talk to you later.I don't think Ma's bodyguard will be able to resist that much.

Articles 110 and 111 of the Criminal Procedure Act were exceptions in the reporters' report earlier. Articles 110 and 111 of criminal proceedings refer to cases in which items subject to seizure and search are classified as military and official secrets. So this doesn't apply to arrest. The court deliberately pointed out that part, which is unusual. If that happens, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is a group that escorts and protects the president.Ma thinks that if he denies the judicial system of the Republic of Korea and the security service stops the president from arresting him, it is not a legal term, but he has nothing to say even if he criticizes that he has almost become a private soldier of the president. In my view, I think the resistance of the bodyguard may be less than I thought, but protesters may be the problem. I think the protesters will resist to the end.

[Anchor]
The president continues to criticize the issuance of a warrant as having no justification, but unless the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit consults with the president, I wonder if it can penetrate this large number of people at once and execute the warrant.

[Work day]
There is no way to object to the issuance of a warrant itself in various criminal proceedings laws or such legal systems in Korea. If an arrest warrant is executed and arrested again, you can request an arrest warrant or request bail, but there is currently no way to object to the warrant by claiming that the warrant is against it. So once the judge has issued it through due process, it has no choice but to follow it. All citizens must abide by the law, but especially the president is obliged to abide by the Constitution and the law, isn't it? I don't know the reason why President Yoon can claim that issuing a warrant is illegal or that there is something wrong with it. As mentioned earlier, while issuing a warrant, the application of Articles 110 and 111 of the Criminal Procedure Act to the warrant is excluded. I have a little question. I haven't seen a warrant that stated that, but as you said earlier, in fact, Articles 110 and 111 are in the search and seizure warrant, but this is an arrest warrant. The search is partially applicable because the arrest requires going inside the official residence, but that does not mean that the purpose of the search has no other purpose than to arrest President Yoon Suk Yeol. Of course, it can be considered that it can't be applied.

On the one hand, why did you issue such a warrant? You can say that this is an excess of judges and that you don't have legal authority. On the one hand, it is very natural, but since the security service can prevent the execution of arrest warrants by entering Articles 110 and 111 of the Criminal Procedure Act, there are parts where the judge wrote down these precautions in advance. Another thing that President Yoon is saying is that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit does not have the authority to arrest the president, there is something that can be argued. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit can investigate the president. However, there is no crime of rebellion against the crime subject to investigation. However, the police can investigate the crime of rebellion because the police are next to them, and if the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit executes it with abuse of authority, the abuse of authority is subject to the president's privilege to remove fluoride in Article 84 of the Constitution. in that category It's a little complicated. So, if the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is not illegal to arrest President Yoon for abuse of authority, it is not authorized by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. We're fighting over such things. You have to do that to the court, or after executing the warrant, you have to apply for a binding appeal or a constitutional petition as I said earlier, and you will fight for authority while refusing the warrant? To say this is to argue that there is no procedure at this time, that there is no legal procedure.

[Choi Chang Ryul]
The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit can abuse its authority now, but the police have the authority to directly investigate the crime of rebellion, and an arrest warrant has been issued now. President Yoon Gap-geun's lawyer now says, "Why is the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit investigating when we don't have the authority to investigate the crime of rebellion?" Therefore, lawyer Yoon Gap-geun argues that this arrest warrant itself is illegal and invalid. The fact that an arrest warrant has already been issued should be considered that the court has already admitted that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit can investigate the rebellion. Another is the crime of rebellion as a related law in investigating the crime of abuse of authority. It's enough to investigate. Of course it's final. It's what the court can do.Ma doesn't seem to be in the right place for a power dispute trial with this situation and an arrest warrant issued. So, I think these various arguments that President Yoon is talking about now are too inconsistent with the judicial system. I wouldn't have issued an arrest warrant because I thought I could investigate the rebellion. If the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit thought it could not investigate the crime of rebellion, in other words, it would not have issued an arrest warrant if it did not constitute a crime of rebellion as a related crime related to abuse of authority. This is what Oh Dong-woon, the head of the airborne division, has already said.

[Anchor]
Now the court has issued an arrest warrant with an unusual clue, but is it still possible that the arrest will not be made within the deadline?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
If you can't arrest him, it should be considered that the security service is very active in resisting. by mobilizing one's physical strength The troops guarding President Yoon now are the police, 202 guard squad under the Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency. The 202nd Guard reportedly said that the same police would cooperate if the task force came in. But there are also military personnel inside the security office. If the security service says it won't arrest the president until the end, it can. There are many examples of that. Isn't it all in the media? In the past, Rep. Hanhwa Gap and Rep. Lee In-je were the same. In some cases, an arrest warrant or arrest warrant could not be executed as party members or supporters blocked it. I was indicted without detention. I think it's different from then, and I think it's different from the situation at that time and whether or not the president executes this warrant, which is now indicated as the head of the civil war. The media heard a lot about the past. There were many examples of

Hanwha Gap, Lee In-je, Rep. Jeong, etc., so they say that there was a time when the warrant was not executed.This situation is much worse than that. As the president violated the Constitution, it is recognized that he actually staged a pro-government coup. But is there a justification for the security service to stop it in this situation? Of course, there is no legal basis. There should be a justification for the security to prevent that, but I think that would be weak. The last martial law. On December 3rd. I said a lot in the beginning that martial law failed because it was very clumsy. But look at what keeps coming out. Martial law was very close. Nevertheless, the failure of martial law was that the soldiers, the last practitioner of martial law, had no justification for themselves. In that sense, we'll have to wait and see.Ma may not have as strong a resistance as we expect. I just think that the resistance of our protesters, the people over there called the Taegeukgi protesters, can be surprisingly strong.

[Anchor]
Right now, lawyer Yoon Gap-geun and President Yoon claim that the warrant itself is invalid. Perhaps that's why the police said they would not be illegal when applying for the execution of the warrant. In fact, whether it is possible to try to execute the warrant now, or whether the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit should request the warrant again if it fails to do so. It's hard to predict right now. How do you view it?

[Work day]
Again, under the current law in Korea, once a warrant is issued, the suspect has no choice but to follow it for the subject and the suspect. There's no other complaint procedure. The warrant was applied by the prosecution, but the warrant was not issued. Then there's an appeal process or you can request it again and request it again. In other laws, there is an appeal procedure in foreign laws, but there is no problem because there is a re-claim procedure anyway. However, it is illegal for the suspect to issue this warrant to the court again. There is no procedure to reconsider. You're going to the Constitutional Court again with that? That is almost certainly to be dismissed. So at the moment, we have no choice but to follow.
But I talked about security a lot earlier.Ma is blocked by those protesters before he goes to the security office and says he will mobilize investigators from the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit or a police task force, so would he pull all those protesters out one by one? Then, if there is a physical accident, it will be a big deal, so I think I might not be able to try it eventually. Again, if the warrant is issued legally anyway, whether there are various objections on the suspect's side or not, the objections can be discussed later in the court. That's what I'm saying, although it's not an arrest because it's an arrest or an arrest. In any case, there is no other way to object. So basically, we have no choice but to follow the execution. In fact, he had requested three arrest warrants, for example, before this happened, but he should appear at the investigative agency. . . . Come to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit for investigation. I asked him to attend, but he refused without saying anything three times, right? So you refuse to attend without justifiable reasons.

If you want to have a legitimate reason, don't you officially notify them that you can't go out for this reason, or haven't we seen a lot of that in the past? If there is a reason why it is difficult to attend, let's do a written investigation first, or you can say that you will respond to the written investigation. In particular, for example, an important person or in this case, he/she will be investigated at a third place, not at the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, and at a third place, under mutual consultation.There are cases where you can hold it or do a door-to-door survey. While talking about that, I don't think there will be an arrest warrant or such an incident if we have discussed whether we can leave room for investigation in other places or in other ways with the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit.

However, such an arrest warrant is issued because he did not offer any such alternative and refused to comply with the summons without any reason. So, for no reason, as I said earlier, President Yoon's side is citing various reasons, but since it is not legally problematic, why did one of the things lawyer Yoon Gap-geun is talking about now, for example, not to the Central District Court, but to the Western District Court? It's judge shopping, isn't it? But it's not illegal. Although the Central District Court is under its jurisdiction, it can be done to other courts whenever there are other reasons. Hannam-dong, where the presidential residence is located, is under the jurisdiction of the Western District Court, so you can do it as much as you want. It's not illegal, although it's unusual. I don't think that's a legitimate reason for not executing a warrant.

[Anchor]
Now, both of you have cited supporters in front of the residence rather than the security service as the variables for executing the warrant, but breaking news has just come in. Breaking news has been reported that the police have arrested two supporters for refusing to comply with the order to disband in front of the official residence. It is said that he was arrested as a current offender for obstructing the execution of public affairs during a rally in support of the president. The supporters are resisting so fiercely, and as Joo Pil said earlier, President Yoon is protesting the issuance of the warrant itself. I charged as if I was shopping for a warrant. What did you think of this idea?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
The reason for the issuance of the arrest warrant was now issued by the court and the Western District Court. The reason for the issuance was that he refused to attend under the Criminal Procedure Act. He refused three times and saw that there was a possibility that he would continue to do so. I think I will continue to refuse to comply in the future as I have not accepted my attendance three times so far without any justifiable reason. That's the reason for the first issuance. The second may be suspected of rebellion. I can't conclude that there is. This is an arrest warrant. It's not the final court decision. These two are the most basic reasons for issuance. This is the reason for the destruction of evidence and the fear of running away.

But if you keep talking about this, what evidence is the president destroying, isn't it already out? Another is the incumbent president, so would he run away? But this is an arrest warrant. It's not an arrest warrant. That's not to be confused. President Yoon keeps saying that the reason for the court's issuance is not valid, but he probably knows that. I don't think you're doing jade without knowing it. In the case of lawyer Yoon Gap-geun, all of them were former Daegu High Prosecutors' Office.

[Anchor]
Do you think such a statement itself is for public opinion?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
That's how I see it. It's all a public opinion contest. You can't talk about that if you're a lawyer. It was issued by the courts of the Republic of Korea within the Korean judicial system in a situation where there were legitimate reasons. But there is no basis to say that the issuance is unjustified. Moreover, especially in the case of arrest warrants, as Professor Roh explained well earlier, there is basically no way not to comply with the execution. There's no basis. The protesters over there and I said earlier that the protesters shouldn't get hurt. That's why it's quite disturbing. If you can't force him to disband, you have to arrest him as a red-handed criminal. It's preventing the exercise of public power in the Republic of Korea.

[Anchor]
The professor interpreted it as a statement for a public opinion battle, but breaking news just came in. Lawyer Yoon Gap-geun has filed an objection with the Western District Court to the execution of arrest and search warrants.

[Choi Chang Ryul]
It's an objection, so I can file it. But somehow look at it now. What did President Yoon say? He said that the impeachment trial comes first rather than the investigation into the rebellion, and he said that the impeachment trial comes first, but he said not to appoint a judge again. The logic doesn't add up, and anyway, it can be seen as part of a strategy to keep delaying the investigation and impeachment. If you keep filing objections and judging authority disputes, the time will be delayed anyway. At the end of the day, I don't know what the court's final decision will be.Ma is basically going to be hard to avoid this situation right now, probably. As a president, it's better to honor your attendance. You're the incumbent president of the Republic of Korea. But even last night, he said, "I'm not a sovereignty intruder, I'm an anti-state force, I'm going to fight against things like that." I sent this message, but it's hard to imagine. It's happening in real life.I can't help but wonder how such a message could come out of Korea and that could happen.

[Anchor]
We continue to show you near the presidential residence in Hannam-dong, Seoul, and as an arrest warrant was issued, many supporters gathered and shouted the name of the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. President Yoon sent a letter to the people over there yesterday while they were holding chants like that. What kind of strategy did you see that message?

[Work day]
You've said it all now, but gather more supporters to protect me. More broadly, this whole process happened because of the forces trying to overthrow the country. After all, the emergency martial law... Didn't President Yoon talk about it several times? In order to fight pro-North Korean forces, in order to fight off fraudulent election forces. Since it is said that it is to separate the forces that are trying to invade our country, in a broad sense, to go to the Constitutional Court and talk about the legitimacy of emergency martial law. They gather those people like that and try to fundamentally prevent the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit from executing the warrant before the security service interferes with it. Broadly speaking, it's a public opinion battle.

But what kind of trouble are they going to do in this cold place with their own passion? President Yoon is not going to send such a message, and folks, I will go to legal proceedings by showing my dignity as a president in accordance with the Constitution and laws in accordance with due process. Don't you have to say, "Don't suffer like that and go home?" Looking at that message yesterday, aren't you asking me to gather more? You can't do that. What are they going through? I heard there are people staying up all night.

[Anchor]
The most noticeable part of the message is that I will fight until the end. There also seems to be a concern about physical collisions. What do you think?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
There's a concern. Of course I do. I don't think we can rule it out at all because there are so many people and the security service is an armed force anyway. I don't think I can rule it out, but from what I see, I don't know if the so-called resistance is the right expression. the act of security of the bodyguard It's hard to say it's a security guard. Security is not security for the president to accept infringement for unfair reasons and for illegal reasons. from a common sense point of view That's not it. The court issued a warrant legitimately within the judicial system and constitutional order of the Republic of Korea, but on what basis and with what authority does the security service prevent the person who wants to issue the warrant? That's not the president's security. That's why I said earlier that I don't know if this expression is appropriate and that if it does, there's room for interpretation like, "Isn't it actually a private escort group?" So there could be a physical conflict between the bodyguard and I think. There may be clashes with police forces, but I think the president and Yoon will be the last. I don't know what the last word would be like. There will be an impeachment trial in the future. There's an investigation and a trial, so we don't know what's going to happen. It cannot be concluded. As the president of the Republic of Korea, the last thing to do for the people who elected the president of the Republic of Korea is not to show that kind of appearance. What's that message? How can you fight back? What are you talking about fighting against? Who are the anti-state forces? Is it a court? Are you an opposition party? Or is it a broadcasting station? Is this the press? You shouldn't do that. Finally, the president will now respond to the real judicial system of the Republic of Korea. Everyone, you did a great job. Thank you for supporting me. You have to come out clean like this. Then you wouldn't worry about this, right?

[Anchor]
As an arrest warrant is issued, there are many things to be said in the political world. In the case of members of the People's Power Party of the Judiciary Committee, they said they would consider impeaching the judge who issued the arrest warrant, what did you think about this?

[Work day]
The Democratic Party of Korea said it would impeach judges in the future, but isn't it the ruling party? I never thought the ruling party would say that it would impeach a judge. I don't think there's a limit to my imagination these days. The reason why they had to violate the Constitution and the law, impeachment, as we know well, violated the Constitution and the law in the course of performing their duties. Basically, although it has been mentioned several times earlier, the application of Articles 110 and 111 of the Criminal Procedure Act is excluded from the arrest warrant. What on earth is the legal basis for the judge to put it in because he put in this phrase? What authority did the judge put such a thing in? This is not a judge who interprets and applies the law, but a law maker. I'm strongly criticizing him right now. I think if you look at it strangely, you can look at it strangely. in a negative way When the judge asks why they put this in the warrant, the judge can attach these conditions while issuing the warrant.

For example, you can attach conditions by setting various restrictions such as methods, places, and periods. It is also possible to interpret that it can be done again if you think of such conditions. As we have said many times, this is not an arrest warrant or a search warrant, but an arrest warrant, so there are various kinds of arrest warrants. Articles 110 and 111 of the Criminal Procedure Act said earlier that such cases of the presidential residence should have the permission of the manager, but that doesn't apply either. Because it's an arrest warrant. It is to go in there to arrest the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, not to confiscate or search the official residence itself. It can be seen that this is explicitly and clearly indicated by the judge, to put it another way. That's why I don't see it as a reason for impeachment of such a judge who violated the Constitution and the law in the process of performing his duties. Before considering such a reason, I will impeach a judge from within the ruling party from the power of the people. I think it's ridiculous that this kind of story comes out.

[Choi Chang Ryul]
Looking at it, there's something that lawmaker Yoon Sang-beom said, the power of the people. I don't know if it will be in the subtitles, but I hope you immediately stop the destruction of the rule of law that destroys the criminal justice system in the Republic of Korea. Who broke the rule of law? This is not a new story, but they are still busy finding lawmakers who have not apologized for the emergency martial law and have not apologized for opposing impeachment without saying what to do about the destruction of the rule of law when armed troops with night vision goggles break the window into the National Assembly. This is what Rep. Power of the People said, so I'll say this.Ma said, "Why don't you talk about the destruction of the rule of law? What do you mean, the rule of law is broken? As far as I know, this person was also a prosecutor, but I'm telling you because he said it. This is my view. I'm just saying I can't agree with this at all. Why do you keep talking about this? You criticized Democrats so much in the past, and how much did you despise Democrats for impeaching a judge? Do I learn as it is?

[Work day]
Lawyer Yoon Gap-geun, looking here, doesn't that mean you're going to file an objection? About the warrant. As well as the execution of warrants. Earlier, I said there was no objection to the warrant, but the suspect. That cannot be denied enforcement itself. This was what I was saying, but I can appeal. It is possible to raise an objection to problems in the process of issuing or executing arrest warrants or objecting to the warrant itself according to legal procedures. If you submit an objection to the court, the court can basically investigate the suspect, listen to the attorney's opinion, and if the submitted objection is valid within a fixed period, the warrant may be canceled. Otherwise, the objection is dismissed, or there is a procedure like this, so when you look at it, you can say it's a kind of objection procedure. Lawyer Yoon Gap-geun will submit an objection to such a warrant and the execution process of the warrant, and if he submits it, we will see how the court judges the objection. If you do this and reject the objection, there is a possibility that if the period passes again, the warrant will be re-claimed.

[Anchor]
In the midst of such confusion, the Democratic Party of Korea described President Yoon's letter, which appeared yesterday, as an incitement of civil war. How do you see it?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
It's hard to conclude that it's an incitement of civil war legally, because it's a political term. Actually, we talked a lot earlier.Ma is the kind of citizens who want to prevent the arrest of President Yoon. It's a message to the citizens. It's already not a message to the people. It's not a message to the people as president. It's not a letter to the people, but to our citizens who support themselves and protect themselves. an anti-state of sovereignty When it comes to anti-state forces, it's something that President Yoon likes quite a lot. Didn't I tell you many times? The country is in danger because of the anti-state forces' quasi-movement. Therefore, it's not about saving a country in danger. So how many people, of course, can have different thoughts depending on the person.How many people don't need any legal knowledge about this. Given universal common sense, reasonable reason, and thinking, how many people can express sympathy with President Lee's words? Of course, the people out there say they are very encouraged as the media reported. I think the letter came, and we finally interpret it as the leader did this. He used the expression "head of the civil war" because it was indicated as the head of the civil war. I didn't write it for no reason. I used it because it's on the warrant. I'll interpret it that way, but I think there's a clear limit to doing it this way.

[Anchor]
There seems to be a voice of concern about the letter even within the power of the people.

[Work day]
The position of the people's power is very embarrassing right now. I think it's going to be an embarrassing situation. Looking at that, of course, there are people who participate or support such protests. However, the more that happens, the more the people's power is cited, for example, if impeachment is cited and an early presidential election is held, the more disadvantageous it is. It's because public opinion, of course, is important, but that's not a lot, and from the perspective of many middle-class people, I can't help but think that they're not trying to follow legal procedures. Common sense and public opinion are bound to move further away from the general public. That's why I can't say that I continue to support such protests and such demonstrations in good words, and I can't applaud President Yoon's message, but I can't criticize it head-on, and I can only say that I'm in an ambiguous situation.

[Anchor]
If the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit reaches the official residence and executes the arrest warrant, what will happen after that? What about the warrant and after that?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
There's a separate original warrant, so I'll have to show you the original and deliver the copy. with a copy I should say I'm issuing a copy. We'll have to execute it after we issue it. If it's not executed, it's another dimension. If it is executed and the president is arrested, then it will go to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit by vehicle. It's supposed to be a public transportation office or a nearby police station, but I'm not going to a nearby police station. I'll probably go to the airlift. Since the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is in Gwacheon. You're going to go there and investigate. And either release within 48 hours or request an arrest warrant. You can't arrest more than 48 hours, so it's very likely that it will lead to an arrest warrant request. It's almost going to be like that. I'll go to the warrant request.

[Anchor]
I don't know yet how the arrest will actually proceed.Ma argued that it would be illegal if a police squad came forward, and that he could be arrested for obstruction of business.

[Work day]
If the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit asked the police to mobilize a task force, it would raise an objection during the execution of the warrant. From what I see, President Yoon has filed an objection with the Western District Court to the arrest and search warrant. In that sense, it's a kind of objection procedure. So, things like mobilizing the National Police Agency, taking the jurisdiction of the Western District Court, which we talked about several times earlier, or the judge making exceptions to the application of Articles 110 and 111 of the Criminal Procedure Act to the warrant. And I don't know.Ma must have put in everything he can say. I have to do it in the Central District Court, but what I did in the Western District Court is judge shopping. Specifically, the judge issued this time has a certain tendency. So, we picked that person and did it to do it. I'm going to give you a lot of reasons.

And can the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit command the police? The Airborne Division only received cooperation. You can do this in the process of executing a warrant. However, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit directed the police on President Yoon's side. That's why it's illegal. I don't have that command, because I can claim it like this. However, the Western District Court can review various objections and interrogate lawyers. Also, President Yoon will not go out to interrogate the suspect. You don't have to go to court and respond to an interrogation, so I'm going to examine all those things and judge them appropriately. I'll probably do it at a fast pace. After a few days of this, the unstable state becomes long, so I applied today. I don't know if you're going to do it or not. If you submit your application late at night today, it will be right by tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, or the best thing is Monday before the warrant expires. Either you reject the objection before it expires or you accept it and cancel the warrant, so you have to quickly resolve the instability.

[Anchor]
The president is said to have filed an objection with the Seoul Western District Court today. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit explains that it is not an impossible problem to request a police mobilization to execute the warrant. By the way, the police will not raise the issue of illegality anyway, so how will they act safely with President Yoon's illegality?

[Choi Chang-ryul]
President Yoon is taking legal issues one by one. This task force is also the police in cooperation with the task force. The airlift can't command the police. I'm trying to find fault with that. So, the police and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit are doing it within the boundaries of the law not to give such an excuse, so President Yoon should not take issue with it, so they will examine it closely. The police and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit are forming the same collaboration. Of course, you can do it. If there's nothing to find fault with, do you find fault with this? Even mobilizing the task force. A task force is to mobilize the task force to keep order when order is in a mess. That's the role of the police. However, I'm not saying that it's illegal because the airborne department does not have the command authority to cooperate with the airborne department. How desperate are you? If you don't have anything to worry about, why do you take this as a problem? Perhaps that's why the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit reviews various legal matters with the police as much as possible to avoid giving such a pretext for such a problem. But again, these things are very secondary.

[Anchor]
In the midst of this, the aftermath of the appointment of Acting President Choi Sang-mok as a constitutional judge was also great. At the Cabinet meeting, there were a lot of shouting and Choi also showed tears.

[Work day]
I'm also a little wondering why they appointed those two. If you want to do it, you have to do everything. If you don't, you have to do everything.

[Anchor]
You're being criticized by both sides right now.

[Work day]
So it's kind of a compromise, a political compromise. But what is the basis for appointing a political justice and not nominating candidate Ma Eun-hyuk? Are you saying that I'm more left-wing? Who judges that? on what grounds I think that's wrong. But why didn't Acting Chief Executive Choi Sang-mok have such a question? If you want to understand, there are protests like this right now in this unstable state, and the status of the president... The impeachment has been linked, so shouldn't the Constitutional Court make a decision quickly? But I don't think we should hurry. You shouldn't be in a hurry, but don't you have to decide quickly and decide whether you want to go or not? However, if you leave it as six people, you can do a hearing on whether or not you can do it as six people, but it is a disposition that you can do. So, it is said that the hearing can be conducted in the provisional disposition, but whether or not it can be decided. It's going to keep getting into trouble. I think it's a desperate measure to say that we shouldn't leave it in this state.

I've said this many times, but in principle, it's an acting president, so isn't it an acting president? Then, if you are an acting president, you should be able to exercise the president's authority. You vetoed it. Perhaps the veto is one of the most powerful powers of the president. Isn't it the kind of procedure that could invalidate the legislation of the National Assembly? But you don't have the right to appoint? You can do it. So I have political considerations about that, and as I said earlier, why did only two people do it? You have to do everything if you want to, or if you want to put it on hold, you have to do everything. That much, even two people were still part of an effort to normalize the Constitutional Court's hearing process. It's called a desperate measure. I know that he has an overpowering aspect, but I would like to think that the fact that he was forced to do so is the result of his anguish to find some stability.

[Anchor]
Since then, senior staff members of the Presidential Office, including Chief of Staff Chung Jin-suk, have expressed their resignation, so how can this be considered a protest?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
It's not a protest, it's a protest. This wasn't like this when Prime Minister Han Deok-soo was acting as an acting president. It wasn't this reaction at all. According to reports now, didn't you make a strong complaint to Acting President Choi Sang-mok at the Cabinet meeting? Some of them are Minister Kim Moon-soo or acting as the former head of the Communications Commission. That's how I did it. However, anyway, since the judges were appointed, there were eight people, and all eight were appointed during the impeachment of former President Park Geun Hye. It wasn't 9 people then either. As a result, the impeachment trial is likely to take place quickly, so I think he responded like this, but isn't it a crisis now that the acting president has been appointed? You shouldn't be so irresponsible as a president in this situation. To do this, you should have done this when you were acting president and prime minister. To Prime Minister Han Deok-soo. It's only done to Deputy Prime Minister Choi Sang-mok. Director Jeong Jin-seok can't do this. The power of the people. I don't think passport people really understand this situation. Isn't this still viewed as partisan? Why do you do this? Can this act reach the people convincingly? I'm not saying that all three chiefs have expressed their resignation. Policy chief, security chief, and chief of staff. Then, in fact, the president's office is obligated to assist the acting president. Aren't you saying you won't guarantee it? What are you going to do then? You have to change your mind quickly and assist the acting boss Choi Sang-mok.

[Anchor]
Professor Choi even described it as a port call, but the reaction of the people's power was subtly different from that of the members of the State Council.

[Work day]
The power of the people also says that the so-called government and the ruling party are almost one body. As I said when I saw the protest earlier, it cannot be turned off forever from the power of the people. I'm sure you know this. If everything goes well with the current six-member system, I hope that it will go to the end of the six-member system and be dismissed, or that only one person should oppose it, but I will know that I have no choice but to appoint and proceed in the end. But he wanted to pull it a little bit more. Please pull it a little bit more. However, the power of the people and the Democratic Party, but there is no need to say, "What did you guys say in the past and now you can't remember?" In the past, when acting Hwang Kyo-ahn was acting, was the ruling Saenuri Party at the time or what was it? Didn't they ask you to appoint them again? You have to say that you can appoint them. At that time, the Democratic Party of Korea said that the acting president should not appoint a constitutional judge because it was done in the position of head of state, but I think we should not consider the past now and judge in this way, what helps to overcome the current crisis in this country. Impeachment of the President, isn't it something that the President has done with emergency martial law? We need to pick it up and quickly overcome the crisis in the country, so whether it is the ruling party or the opposition party, what is helpful? How is it helpful to do it? I think we should use this as the biggest principle, and not keep thinking about whether it's in our favor or against us.

[Anchor]
I see.

[Choi Chang Ryul]
Acting president Choi Sang-mok needs to quickly appoint candidate Ma Eun-hyuk. There's no basis. There's no reason not to appoint him. I understand the loyalty of Acting President Choi Sang-mok and the hardships, but it simply doesn't make sense. Out of the three, you said it earlier.Ma Eun-hyuk is also a candidate agreed upon by the ruling and opposition parties. But if the ruling and opposition parties agree on that part, they will appoint it? Of course, it is fortunate that acting Choi Sang-mok appointed two at least, so the Constitutional Court became an eight-member system, and that is worth evaluating. I think candidate Ma Eun-hyuk should be appointed quickly.

[Anchor]
I see. I'll cut it short here today.

It was Choi Chang-ryul, a special professor at Yongin University, and the chief editor of Financial News, Noh Dong-il. Thank you both.