[On-site video+] Oh Dong-woon said, "We believe that the operation is possible only when the vehicle is involved."

[Anchor]
Right now, the National Assembly is conducting pending questions from the members of the Legislation and Judiciary Committee. We will connect the site and look at the picture.

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
That risk to each other about the physical fight process...

[Interview]
There won't be many people caught in the arrest. Didn't you expect that, too? Do all the people who went to catch him have to run away when they fight?

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
In order for us to enter further and achieve our goals properly, we need to gain an advantage in terms of numbers.

[Interview]
So have you tried on-the-spot arresting people who are in the way? The police that you went with the prosecutor?

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
We exchanged opinions on that and made our own plans.

[Kim Ki Pyo / Democratic Party member]
What plan did you make, Chief?

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
I...
{∀ Kim}[Rep. Kim Ki-pyo of the Democratic Party of Korea]{∀ Kim}What did you say?

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
If there is a physical conflict without proper instruction, we will see that in a large frame
{∀ Kim}[Rep. Kim Ki-pyo of the Democratic Party of Korea]{∀ Kim}So you went in like that at the time and thought of coming out unconditionally as long as you didn't respond to the arrest, right?

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
That's not true. We prepared quite a lot of vehicles, and once the vehicles had to go in, especially those with toilets, but as those things didn't go well, the retreat was blocked. I was most concerned about that.

[Kim Ki Pyo / Democratic Party member]
Listen. Seeing that the deputy director of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit briefed reporters, he thought he would respond to the arrest, but he didn't. What would a person who thinks like that have prepared? What would the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit have prepared? I was going to try it with a tulle arrest warrant, but I made a scrum over there, so I can't do it. Didn't you come out like this? Isn't that who you are?

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
Right now, we...
{∀ Kim}[Rep. Kim Ki-pyo of the Democratic Party of Korea]{∀ Kim}Then the arrest warrant came out again. I think it'll come out. But then there can be more organized resistance, right? What are you going to do then?

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
I don't think we should face such a situation now that the access road is blocked like this.

[Kim Ki Pyo / Democratic Party member]
The judgment on the spot and the execution of the arrest warrant by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit can be divided in a way. The head of the airborne department will probably not go to the scene. The police can probably exert physical force on the scene, but who is responsible for the enforcement on the spot, who is the decision maker, and what do you plan to do? Has that been decided?

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
It is now decided as a senior judge.

[Kim Ki Pyo / Democratic Party member]
A senior judge? Are you saying that the prosecutor will judge on the spot?

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
I'll discuss it with you.

[Kim Ki Pyo / Democratic Party member]
Once again, I will have to accurately share responsibilities and give full judgment as a person who can accurately control the field situation. I don't think we should think roughly about how hundreds of people at the security agency are scrambling for right now. Isn't it so? Now, the people are staying up all night for hours and asking them to arrest them. I don't know how warm you sleep, but you have to take the situation seriously. The people who went to execute the
arrest warrant came out at 1:30, so we can't do it. The scene is too rough, can you say this? Why did you become the Senior Superintendent of Airborne?

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
I'll be very mindful of that.

[Kim Ki Pyo / Democratic Party member]
This really shouldn't happen when an arrest warrant is issued in the second round. Do you understand?

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
I'll keep that in mind.

[Kim Ki Pyo / Democratic Party member]
And I have some time left. Fellow members of the Korean People's Power are asking whether or not to remove the crime of rebellion from the Constitutional Court. I think it's very good at making controversial things that are not controversial. Lawmaker Mo said, "What if the constitutional trial and the criminal trial contradict each other?" There is no contradictory conclusion. You don't have to worry about that. Shouldn't the criminal trial be conducted first by listening to the article that the impeachment trial proceedings can be suspended during the criminal trial? I don't think that's a ridiculous argument, but rather persuade the president to attend first. Would it be reasonable to argue that the criminal trial should be conducted first against the president who does not comply with the arrest warrant when he goes to execute the arrest warrant?

I don't think you should do that. And the members of the People's Power approved the impeachment motion. And now, in the Constitutional Court, the impeachment bill is a matter of Yoon Suk Yeol, a claim against the National Assembly. And it's very self-contradictory for the prosecutor to be the chairman of the Judiciary Committee and to do what the Judiciary Committee now seems to want the impeachment motion to be dismissed. Rather go somewhere else and hold a press conference, if you disagree. I think it is extremely inappropriate for the Judiciary Committee to make such self-contradictory statements or claims. I'll...

[Jeong Chung-rae / Chairman of the National Assembly Legislation and Judiciary Committee]
Rep. Kim Ki-pyo, it's your first debut in the Judiciary Committee, and you did a good job. Thank you for your efforts. Rep. Park Joon-tae, ask questions.

[PARK JUN TAE / People's Power]
I also listened to Rep. Kim Ki-pyo well. You're out of the airlift, right? Does the Airborne have the power to investigate treason?

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
According to the Corruption Investigations Unit Act, the Corruption Investigations Unit has the right to investigate the crime of obstructing the exercise of the right to abuse authority. The Corruption Investigations Unit Act states that investigations can be conducted on crimes related to this.

[PARK JUN TAE / People's Power]
There is no such direct provision that rebellion can be investigated anywhere in the Corruption Investigations Unit Act. However, since we can investigate the abuse of authority, we will look into the charges of rebellion as a linked case, right?

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
Yes, the right to investigate was recognized, and arrest warrants and arrest warrants were issued several times by the court.

[PARK JUN TAE / People's Power]
All right, I know the claim. They do not have the authority to investigate the crime of rebellion and can investigate the abuse of authority, but the current president is not subject to criminal prosecution except for the crime of rebellion or foreign exchange in Article 84 of the Constitution. Therefore, it is impossible to investigate allegations of rebellion by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit right now, and it cannot investigate abuse of authority while in the incumbent president.
is the unified opinion of the legal profession. What authority will the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit conduct this investigation now? Listen. If the
incident is serious and public interest is high, does it create a power that does not exist? You're going to do justice? Does this justification give you authority that you didn't have? Even if you interpret it like this or that, you don't see the authority of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to investigate. It is abuse of authority to act without
authority. Chief of Airborne, and the prosecutors now leading the investigation.
When I look back on this situation calmly over time, I have to be prepared to be punished for abuse of authority. I won't ask for it, but I warn you sternly. And not long ago, there was a special law proposed by the Democratic Party alone and passed by the plenary session. Regarding that, the statute of limitations is abolished for certain crimes. However, if you look here, it is stipulated that a person working in an investigative agency can be prosecuted for life if he abuses his or her authority.

Let me tell you that it can be a problem for you to act outside of your authority at any time, if not right now, in three years, five years, 10 years, 20 years from now. Since the court issued a warrant a while ago, the investigation is based on it, is it correct that you said this?

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
It is to the effect that it has been recognized by the court that there is no problem legally because we have been issued arrest warrants and arrest warrants several times in the court.

[PARK JUN TAE / People's Power]
All right. According to the Corruption Investigations Unit Act, the jurisdiction of the first trial of the Corruption Investigations Unit is the Seoul Central District Court. Right?

[Oh Dong-woon / Director of Criminal Investigation for High-ranking Public Officials]
There is that, but it also has jurisdiction over the jurisdiction of the original Criminal Procedure Act, the location of the suspect, and the address.

[PARK JUN TAE / People's Power]
You're saying there's an exception, right? However, in order to apply the exception, there must be a clear reason why the Seoul Central District Court cannot do it, so that the justification that it is done in another court gains convincing power. Why can't you do it in the Central District Court? So, the media is pointing out that it is a warrant shopping to seek the judgment of a progressive judge. I'm not saying this personally, but it's all over the media, right?

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
We did it to the Western Court, a court with jurisdiction over Yongsan, and we do not interpret that as a relationship between principles and exceptions, but we interpret that the jurisdiction under the original Criminal Procedure Act also exists.

[Park Jun-tae / People's Power Congressman]
All right, this is what the search warrant says. Articles 110 and 111 of the Criminal Procedure Act state that exceptions are made. Where does a judge
have the power to rule out that the law does not apply arbitrarily? Then the legislature will have half the reason for lawmakers to exist. This sham warrant is valid? An arrest warrant is executed based on that? Giving a court warrant to a congressman suspected of a crime, this is such a bad guy that he has immunity, but make an exception this time. We're in session, but we'll arrest him right away. If I write it this way, can the congressman be arrested? No matter how cheeky a member of the National Assembly is and even if it is a serious crime, he has to abide by the principles set by the law. The more important the case, the more so. All important events in our country are politically related. The more sensitive such cases are, the more sensitive they are, so they make such efforts to ensure sufficient procedural legitimacy and not leave any errors. That way, the parties can accept the results and the supporters can acknowledge the results. But look at what the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has done now. I did something without authority, so I made such a big deal of work. You're not showing any management ability right now to direct and control the investigation, are you?
So I'm asking the police, who have a clear legal basis, to re-transfer the investigation.

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
Gentleman, let me talk about that. Articles 110 and 111 of the Criminal Law require the approval of the person in charge when searching for such places and objects in order to protect military secrets and official secrets.

[PARK JUN TAE / People's Power]
I am fully aware of the contents. Listen to me. Sir, please stop.

[Dongwoon Oh / Director of Criminal Investigation]
It is a situation that confirms the natural law that such provisions do not apply.

[PARK JUN TAE / People's Power]
I am well aware of the claim. Listen to me carefully. Chief and the people involved in this investigation now. Whether you are doing it with proper legal authority or are you forced to do this investigation by being driven by political circumstances. And who will be responsible for that. Please make a good judgment. Chief of the Court Administration.