[News NIGHT] Reissuance of Yoon's arrest warrant...How do you do the second round?

■ Host: anchor Sung Moon-gyu
■ Starring: Hong Seok-joon, former member of the National Power, Shin Hyun-young, former member of the Democratic Party of Korea,

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[Anchor]
It's a focus night time to point out the news of political interest. Today, Hong Seok-joon, a former member of the People's Power, and Shin Hyun-young, a former member of the Democratic Party, are here. Please come in. The court today reissued an arrest warrant for President Yoon, whose deadline has expired. I'm interested in when the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will be executed, so first, Representative Hong, when should we execute it?

[Hong Seok-jun]
First of all, unlike the last arrest warrant, there is no such thing as when the expiration period is, and I don't think it has been disclosed that it will be executed when. And in fact, it is extremely unusual to publicly issue arrest warrants like last time. Because it is a common case to execute an arrest warrant while it is unknown, I wonder if it will be executed in a private manner without disclosing when it will be executed after this extension. But I'm a little disappointed at this point because the Western Court continues, so the Western Court has no choice but to extend the arrest warrant.Ma, however, should minimize the possibility of public conflict and controversy on such important issues. Although the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit does not have the authority to investigate a civil war, the Central District Court should continue to push ahead with it, and the Western District Court is criticized for warrant shopping and judge shopping, and the fact that the law excludes Articles 110 and 111 of the Criminal Procedure Act on warrants is very controversial, so it will be controversial in the future.

[Anchor]
Anyway, you said that the timing of the execution of the warrant is likely to be sudden, so in fact, the head of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit said last time that he would do it with respect, so he didn't do it when it was dark. So I expected it to be daytime.What do you think of Ma this time?

[Hyunyoung Shin]
In fact, I think the reissued arrest attempt is based on the apology of the head of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit today, as he has been criticized by both the ruling and opposition parties for his lack of ability and willingness to investigate this time. In fact, there are various human and physical limitations to do with the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit itself, so in the end, we have no choice but to jointly respond with the police and try this time through police cooperation in the cooperation center itself. And last time, the arrest warrant was issued for about 7 days, but it is predicted that it will be longer this time. Therefore, under the principle of being quick but quick and orderly, we have no choice but to mobilize all means and methods. Therefore, there was a shield from the first and second three levels of security in the first round of arrest, and there is a possibility that the president will run away from the question of how to respond to these things without practicing them properly this time. Since we have to evacuate something from the official residence and prepare for a scenario that won't be in the official residence, we also need to think about how to search thoroughly in this case.

[Anchor]
In fact, there was a question from the Judiciary Committee today, and I asked if there was a possibility that there would be no president, but it is said that in the second round of execution, barbed wire and car walls were installed in the official residence. What do you think? In fact, it is known now that it has been fortified and it has become more difficult to arrest.

[Hong Seok-jun]
The presidential residence and its vicinity are thoroughly guarded, and the basis for the security zone is not simply because the president resides, but it is the place where the most important military security facilities in Korea are located. That's why, of course, the bodyguard has no choice but to control it and there may be no president. With these stories, I am currently dropping the national dignity of our Republic of Korea. Not long ago, the president's private jet appeared, and didn't you say, "Isn't this how the president is fleeing abroad?" I would like to say that it is never good for the benefit of the whole of Korea and for the image, and one more very sensitive issue is this. In the past, when the prosecution executed the warrant, the prosecution in the past had the power to command the police investigation, so the police could go with the execution of the warrant. However, now, the police cannot go to the prosecution when executing the warrant after the prosecution and police investigation coordination authority and the prosecution's completion of the investigation. It's only possible with a prosecution investigator. Therefore, I don't know if the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will cooperate with the police, for example, to maintain order, but the fact that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit takes police forces to execute a warrant is very illegal and controversial. This is also something to keep in mind, so it is very difficult to execute a warrant for a sitting president.

[Anchor]
So, as you said now, the second execution is also concerned about physical conflict because there is a possibility that the security agency may judge it illegal and prevent it thoroughly.

[Hyunyoung Shin]
That's right. The security service is raising a considerable number of questions about personal security as a presidential escort, and in the end, why is it illegal about the authority to grant an arrest warrant granted by the judiciary? The president, who was a former prosecutor, and the security agencies around him are bound to be criticized for their compliance with the national laws of the Republic of Korea. In particular, it is necessary to sharpen preparations because there may be physical conflicts if the second arrest attempt is made. Therefore, if the airlift department cooperates with the police makes various preparations in the joint investigation itself and the security office defends to the last cordon, the police will talk about how to arrest him as a current criminal. It is expected that those who are subject to the security service above the manager level will be arrested at the official residence while issuing an arrest warrant, so I think we need to be aware that there is a difficulty in preparing more actively in advance and operating physical force to break down the cordon.

[Anchor]
So, the expected physical strength is... Didn't you withdraw in 5 hours and a half last time? So, some say it's a three-night, four-day operation and some say that the SWAT team can take a helicopter, so I wonder if this is realistically possible. And actually, because there's a barbed wire. Didn't you say that last time when the road was blocked, you used the slope next to it? It's said that they crossed the first and second cordon. In preparation for that, what will happen to both sides with barbed wire?

[Hong Seok-jun]
I don't think the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is conducting counterterrorism operations, and I don't think it's helpful for anyone in Korea to execute in this way. Because there are a lot of stories that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the police say now that ignore the current law. What I mean is that you can be arrested as a current offender for obstructing the execution of public affairs. In order to obstruct the execution of public affairs, violence or intimidation must be premised on the performance of public affairs by an authoritative agency. So, for example, the premise of obstructing the execution of public affairs is not established with a situation like this that the security service blocks with the body. The second is that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has eight investigative powers set in the law, but it cannot even be booked for obstructing the execution of public affairs. Therefore, it is very difficult for the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to enforce the arrest warrant by applying physical force to the president now. At this point, I was taught that the purpose of the administration should be done through reasonable means when learning textbooks. For example, the purpose of the administration is to investigate whether or not the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has the right to investigate. However, for example, in order to achieve the purpose of investigation, there is no way to forcefully arrest the incumbent president like this. That's not the case. For example, an investigation through forced arrest, even though there are any other methods, such as conducting an investigation through cooperation in a third place or conducting a written investigation. I'm concerned that this is too much of an investigation that the current Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is trying to show.

[Anchor]
Representative Hong, then I'll ask you this. The court issued a warrant for the reason, saying that Oh Dong-woon, the head of the Airborne Division, continues to insist that the president has no right to investigate the crime of rebellion. I said that I had authority just for that, and it's a public authority anyway. Since public power is involved, legal problems should be solved by law, not by physical force. What do you think of this logic?

[Hong Seok-jun]
First of all, the issuance of a warrant itself cannot solve everything in the court, for example, does not necessarily mean that you are guilty of everything in the main trial. Since issuing a warrant is the first stage of public power investigations and such, I mean, even the head of the court administration warned in the National Assembly that the issue of overlapping investigations by the prosecution, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, and the police could be problematic later on, such as maintaining public prosecution. And now, public power versus public power is currently facing each other. Therefore, under the current law, the Security Agency is also obligated to control and protect security areas, especially those designated as military protection facilities. But that's very exceptional in the warrant now. In my view, it is written down as Articles 110 and 111 of the Criminal Procedure Act, which have a lot of authority, so this is the most important issue to be encountered.

[Hyunyoung Shin]
I think I need to make a counterargument. First of all, I would like to tell you that the duty of the security service is to protect the safety or security of the transfer in moving to the investigative agency so that the president can be investigated well, not to thoroughly shield the target of a monster who is likely to have committed civil war as a president. As you said, can the people understand that an investigation into the president will be conducted in a third place or in writing? It is lamentable even for the people to maintain their qualifications as a president who refused to investigate and hid behind the fact that Kim Gun-hee's Deutsche Motors stock price investigated and did not prosecute the president after conducting a business trip investigation. I cannot agree with this because it is a way of undermining the national prestige of the Republic of Korea and undermining democracy. And as the National Police Chiefs Association said, if you try to arrest him this time, there is a part where the police have no choice but to operate a special police force and take the center stage. As there is a statement saying that helicopters or armored vehicles can be deployed, I think the biggest duty of our public authorities is to carry out the mission this time and quickly end the Republic of Korea in crisis.

[Anchor]
The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit also said that it was because the vehicles prepared at the National Assembly could not enter today, so there must be a bus equipped with a toilet. I think we have to wait and see how we will enter the second round at any time by saying that the vehicle came out early because it couldn't go in. Oh Dong-woon, the head of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, was criticized by both the ruling and opposition parties for attending the Judiciary Committee today. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit made an official apology for the failure of President Yoon's arrest. Let's listen to it for ourselves.

[Dongwoon Oh / Senior Civil Servant Crime Investigation Director: I am very sad and sorry to the public that the arrest warrant issued by the judiciary has not been properly executed and the rule of law has been undermined. ]

[Jeong Chung-rae / Chairman of the National Assembly Legislation and Judiciary Committee (Democratic Party) : I couldn't do it because of the systematic resistance of the security office, but to say this is nothing but an excuse to avoid responsibility for failure to execute arrest warrants. Why didn't you expect that? The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the police should have systematically and overwhelmingly suppressed it. ]

[Park Jun-tae / National Assembly Legislation and Judiciary Committee member (Power of the People): We can't investigate allegations of civil war by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit right now, and we can't investigate abuse of authority when we're the incumbent president. This is the unified opinion of the legal profession. It is about what authority the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is conducting this investigation now. ]

[Anchor]
Today, the Judiciary Committee was like a battle between the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, but the ruling party told them not to execute the warrant, and the opposition party told them to do better. What did you think, today's Judiciary Committee?

[Hong Seok-jun]
First of all, even during former President Park Geun Hye, this criminal matter was investigated by the special prosecutor in bribery and other areas after former President Park Geun Hye was impeached. The current situation is that President Yoon Suk Yeol has started the impeachment hearing in earnest, so isn't the first round of arguments scheduled soon? However, the investigation has not even submitted the appointment of the defense team to the president. Therefore, trying to execute an arrest warrant so strongly against a president who is not so ready for impeachment hearings and investigative matters by the Constitutional Court in two stages goes beyond the courtesy of the incumbent president and as a member of the general public, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is too far-fetched in terms of defense rights. I really want to say this. In particular, the head of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is also a judge, and in fact, he has no practical execution experience of such a warrant. Therefore, the difficulty of executing a warrant. In particular, when the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit pushed forward like this even though it did not have the authority to investigate the current civil war, the aftermath that could come later, and the problem later when the police intervened here. This is an important time to make a careful judgment.

[Anchor]
Anyway, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit apologized for the failure of the first execution and made the determination to prepare thoroughly with the last determination, so I think it will be stronger.

[Hyunyoung Shin]
That's right. I think the fate of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is at stake. Therefore, if the second attempt at arrest is not made properly, the problem of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the problem of identity of the existence will certainly be raised again in the future, so we have no choice but to go all out. As I said, in the five years since the passage of the Corruption Investigations Unit Act in 2020, the appointment of prosecutors by various corruption investigations and cooperation have been very delayed during the Yoon Suk Yeol regime, so lack of manpower and budget have accumulated. Even now, some organizations are very punctured. That's why the prosecution and investigators are very scarce, and the problems in the areas where they lack experience and were actually incompetent are revealed through this incident, but I'm looking forward to it because the head of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit gave me another chance and said he would do it with such determination. Nevertheless, President Yoon Suk Yeol and Minister of Public Administration and Security Lee Sang-min have to conduct the investigation into the two at the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, and there are still concerns and concerns about whether they can do well. Therefore, it is necessary to establish an institutional basis for the National Assembly to quickly conduct such investigations separately from the joint investigation and the prosecution. In that sense, I would like to earnestly request that politics should work in responding to the independent counsel law on this civil war and quickly recovering from this crisis.

[Anchor]
The Democratic Party of Korea also filed a complaint against Acting President Choi Sang-mok on charges of dereliction of duty today because he did not respond to the request of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to exercise the command of the Security Service. Impeachment was mentioned, but I think I filed a complaint.

[Hyunyoung Shin]
The Democratic Party filed a complaint today. In fact, I personally think it is too much to say that impeachment is done in this situation. The continued change of the acting president through various impeachment itself is inevitably a burden to the safety of the Republic of Korea. Nevertheless, if so, Acting President Choi Sang-mok should play a good role as president, but there are quite a few things that he has not done in a situation where he has to make a real judgment and approve various dereliction of duty. In fact, on this basis, when the Cabinet meeting was held on the martial law day, Acting President Choi Sang-mok participated and strongly opposed such martial law, but after the death, he delivered a note from the president to the vice minister and suspected that he participated in the civil war together for such orders to secure financial funds and liquidity. Since then, there has been a suspicion that the Financial Services Commission and the Bank of Korea have held a meeting of emergency legislation to discuss how the economy should deal with this emergency rule. The appointment of only two out of three Constitutional Court members this time is actually his own political judgment, not based on grounds or laws, but there is a lot of regret in the fact that he is making too much judgment by looking at the ruling party, and he did not use his authority as a president even though he had to order the presidential security service to refrain from arresting on the day the arrest warrant was issued. Let me explain that there was today's accusation of such a warning as to whether he was playing the president too passively.

[Anchor]
On the contrary, there were many articles today saying that they asked the police to support the security service, not to comply with the request of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, but the police did not accept it. What do you think of acting Choi's move?


[Hong Seok-jun]
I don't know if acting president Choi Sang-mok is acting or acting right now.Aren't you doing "ma"? However, President Yoon Suk Yeol has only been suspended from his current duties, and his position is still the president. I'm the president of the Republic of Korea. What kind of order can the acting security agency that protects the president of the Republic of Korea issue? In fact, it is very difficult to issue an order legally. That's why the Democratic Party of Korea has criticized it and impeached 29 people as if they were addicted to impeachment, but now why did it stop at the level of dereliction of duty? In my view, after impeaching acting Han Deok-soo last time, the aftermath was very big. So, while President Yoon Suk Yeol's approval rating and people's power approval rating are rising, the Democratic Party's approval rating is falling, and I think there is a concern about the aftermath. And I think the other thing is because Acting President Choi Sang-mok also appointed two judges of the Constitutional Court, which the Democratic Party wanted. However, in my view, the Democratic Party of Korea is making various threats or pressure remarks, such as dereliction of duty if it doesn't like the acting president Choi Sang-mok, in this situation, which is too much for the people. I think I'll be able to get enough of this recognition.

[Anchor]
Then I think I should ask Representative Shin about this, but he filed a complaint for dereliction of duty today and made an accusation against acting Choi. But if this second execution is not carried out properly, can it go back to impeachment, what do you think?

[Hyunyoung Shin]
You're talking about the impeachment of Acting President Choi Sang-mok, right? From now on, it may not be easy, but it is true that there are voices of necessity within. If Acting Chief Minister Choi Sang-mok is impeached, the next person is Minister Lee Ju-ho. I think the Democratic Party will probably have a greater negative judgment on whether Minister Lee Ju-ho can properly act as an alternative. In fact, Minister Lee Ju-ho has shown his past as an education minister in the MB administration and as an extreme conservative minister who is not trusted by the party during the confirmation hearing, there must be some voices that he is not very wise as an alternative in that regard. So, even among senior officials, the contents have yet to be organized or concluded, but some lawmakers are also concerned that the abuse of impeachment may seem excessive. Nevertheless, if the acting president fails to do it properly, it is not easy to impeach him right now because of the conflicting issues about whether he should quickly overcome it and solve the problems with the emergency martial law. Isn't it an important time to try again for an arrest warrant and the Constitutional Court's hearing not starting properly? And since the National Assembly continues to do so for the parliamentary investigation and then for the special prosecution, I think we should focus on the role of the one party in making it work smoothly in this area.

[Anchor]
So far, I don't think I can clearly mention it in the home situation. Let's talk about the impeachment trial of President Yoon Suk Yeol. Now, there is a controversy over the National Assembly's decision to withdraw the crime of rebellion from the grounds for prosecution. Let's hear the related remarks first.

[Jang Soon-wook / Representative of National Assembly Appeals for President Yoon's Impeachment : The core reason for the impeachment is as expressed in the prosecution resolution, in a nutshell, *the act of national constitution by the leader of the civil war*. This partial prosecution has never been withdrawn or changed in any letter during the preparation process. Therefore, we will be judged on all acts of rebellion in the impeachment resolution. ]

[Joo Jin-woo / National Assembly Legislation and Judiciary Committee member (Power of the People): If key and particularly important content is excluded from the impeachment inquiry, I think it is clear by law that a new impeachment resolution is needed if it is eliminated, as well as the consent of the other party, the president's lawyers. As the Democratic Party claims now, *"The crime of rebellion has been eliminated, but the act of rebellion remains." ' This is sophistry. ]

[Anchor]
Rep. Shin should ask you this first because the National Assembly's impeachment investigation is mainly composed of opposition parties. The prosecution has never been withdrawn a single letter. It will be summed up as such that it will be judged by focusing on violating the constitution in accordance with the impeachment trial process, so please explain it more.

[Hyunyoung Shin]
In fact, the part that has changed is the part that has changed from the crime of rebellion to the act of rebellion, so it cannot be said that the crime of rebellion has been completely eliminated. And the impeachment hearing at the Constitutional Court is based on the Constitution, and it is about the criminal law to question whether or not it is a crime of rebellion. That's why the criminal law must be disputed through investigations and trials, and the Constitutional Court will decide whether or not to impeach President Yoon Suk Yeol on December 3rd by declaring emergency martial law and the processes and processes he executed in the process violate the Constitution. Therefore, whether the emergency martial law was declared in accordance with the Constitution, the contents of the hearing that should be considered at the Constitution this time. And did the Cabinet meeting go right? And if emergency martial law is declared, it is supposed to be notified to the National Assembly immediately. Was there such a process? And such a depraved part of the National Assembly. And the part that infiltrated the NEC with the conspiracy theory of fraudulent election. Was it legal in this area? Because it is about this, the whole thing is about the Yoon Suk Yeol's act of rebellion, but since it does not delay much time based on the constitution, what we are concerned about is that President Yoon Suk Yeol or his lawyers will minimize the time-consuming operation by doing many evidence in the Constitutional Court, arguing whether it is a crime of rebellion or not.

[Anchor]
So, there is an entire act of rebellion, but it seems that it has been sorted out now that it will seek judgment based on the standard of the Constitution, not the standard of the criminal law.

[Hong Seok-jun]
That's how Democrats see it, and that's a very wrong story. It's a story that misleads the people. Because first of all, there have been about six articles of impeachment since the first emergency decree on December 3rd. Among them, they were close to the U.S. and Japan under the name of value diplomacy, and they were hostile to China, Russia, and North Korea, but they did two things except that. It was passed on to the emergency martial law and then two crimes of rebellion under the criminal law. But now, it is said that the crime of rebellion under the criminal law is excluded. In doing so, even Rep. Ahn Cheol Soo of the Korean People's Power and Rep. Kim Sang-wook, who voted for it at the time, were deceived, cheated, and fraudulent impeachment. I'm criticizing it like this. have to re-decide That's what they say. So, excluding the reason at that time is a fraudulent impeachment, which is a very problem in the voting process. Second, in the end, it is said that the act of rebellion itself remains, but that is a remark that ignores the rule of law. Because civil war is not a Korean concept, but a legal concept is required to apply it as impeachment. The legal concept is defined in the criminal law, and in the end, the act of rioting for the purpose of national tragedy or national constitution is called civil war. However, since it is difficult and time-consuming to prove the crime of such a criminal law, I will exclude the criminal law and see the act of rebellion as a constitution. I do it like this. Then what is the act of civil war under the Constitution? It's an abstract concept with no regulations. For example, if the cabinet meeting was supposed to be held for 30 minutes for 5 minutes, is this really a rebellion? That's not right. So, I'm going to make a judgment in the end by making a rebellion into the realm of the very abstract constitution, but if this happens, the violation of the Constitution and the law is so serious that impeachment will be made when the president cannot perform his duties. That's the story. So, in other words, removing the crime of civil war under the criminal law is a very big problem in terms of process and consequences.

[Anchor]
Therefore, President Yoon's lawyers also argue that the Constitutional Court should reject the impeachment if it is not dealt with because a large part of the rebellion was involved in the impeachment resolution. However, the Constitutional Court first stated that it was a matter for the court to judge.

[Hyunyoung Shin]
Ultimately, the court will decide. I just have to respect the judgment of the Constitutional Court, but I think it's very unfortunate that the ruling and opposition parties are now being politicized like this again. Even during the impeachment of former President Park Geun Hye, the crime of coercion was removed. at the insistence of Kwon Sung-dong, chairman of the prosecution committee In 2017, lawmaker Kwon Won-dong said he could take it out, but he said he needed a vote, but now he is talking 180 degrees the other way, so I will judge the Constitutional Court because it seems that he is making the argument according to his own advantage. And I think we can respect that judgment.

[Anchor]
In the end, the impeachment investigation team is talking about the intention that the Constitutional Court should make a decision on impeachment quickly, and the interpretation of it is a trick for Lee Jae-myung's early presidential election. This is the claim of the power of the people, right?

[Hong Seok-jun]
Of course, that's what I have to think. In the end, if there is no appeals court or judicial risk for CEO Lee Jae-myung, there is no reason to hurry like this. If this happens, the outcome is actually much more likely to be rejected than before. However, the situation is completely different from then because there were about nine reasons for impeachment at that time, even if one or two of them are omitted, the crime of rebellion under the criminal law, which is the most important of the two reasons for impeachment, has been removed, which is completely different from then. The other thing is that the reason for that time is that, for example, former President Park Geun Hye's bribery is not possible because he is an incumbent president. That's why it doesn't matter even if you're out, but even though you're the incumbent president, aren't you investigating the crime of rebellion? That's why taking this out is a completely different situation from the 2017 impeachment of former President Park Geun Hye.

[Hyunyoung Shin]
Regardless of Chairman Lee Jae-myung's early presidential election, to save the current crisis, it is necessary to quickly clean up the issue and create a new Republic of Korea, especially in areas where the Republic of Korea is not playing such a role in diplomacy or defense with President Trump now in office. So I think the early presidential election for the president is an essential part. In particular, since the people's livelihood economy is struggling every day, this part must be sorted out so that the part of such Korea risk can be changed predictably. And in the process of illegal emergency martial law, the reasons for impeachment are overflowing, so it is unnecessary to have such a debate. The Constitutional Court will judge in the way the people want it to be. I think you can leave it there.

[Anchor]
I think I need to ask you a little more about this before I finish. in connection with the execution of arrest warrants It was yesterday. More than 40 ruling party lawmakers gathered at the official residence, and many people had a lot of controversy about the phenomenon itself, and there were voices of concern. What about this time? What do you think?

[Hong Seok-jun]
In the end, whether there is a special prosecution or a special prosecution vote in the National Assembly or not, it will depend on the situation. Until now, the president's approval rating has been a little low, but the demand from conservative people on the right to support President Yoon Suk Yeol is exploding right now that he should eventually protect the president by continuing to rise. Therefore, since thousands and tens of thousands of people are staying up all night in Hannam-dong's official residence even in this cold, they have no choice but to receive such supporters' demands in the end. And in politics, there is a saying that the approval rating is a gangster, but in that situation, some members of the National Assembly seem to be joining the ranks of protecting the official residence.

[Anchor]
That's why lawmakers from Yeongnam and Gangwon provinces participated. But there's also talk about this. Regarding the second execution period of the arrest warrant, isn't it the day of the re-decision of the twin special prosecution law tomorrow because it is quite burdensome to execute if the members of the People's Power are gathered like that in front of that residence? So, there is an interpretation that maybe tomorrow will be the time.

[Hyunyoung Shin]
When there is a plenary session, all the lawmakers will be in the National Assembly, so it is predicted that they are free in that area. Whether the execution will actually take place tomorrow has to go tomorrow. These days, we live in a dark age where we can't predict tomorrow's news, and these 44 people will be stuffed into the history of the People's Power. A view of protecting the official residence to escort the Yoon Suk Yeol Insurrection Monster. It's really not beautiful. And I feel very sorry that he has shown himself as a professional politician for politics without his own subjectivity and politics along the strong supporters of conservatives. In particular, as many senior lawmakers are leading such an atmosphere and leading the people's power, there is also a pity that the people's power will be judged by history in the future, and that it could lead to a truly disastrous result in the future being reduced to an unconstitutional party.

[Anchor]
I see. We'll stop listening to you two today. I spoke with two former lawmakers, Hong Seok-joon and Shin Hyun-young. Thank you.