[Correct] Yun's second attempt is imminent.Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit "Resolution that it's the last time".

■ Host: anchor Lee Harin
■ Starring: Shin Ji-ho, former Vice-President of the People's Power Strategy Planning, former Democratic Party lawmaker Kim Hyung-joo

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[Anchor]
A political commentary with a living angle, starting at the stroke of the hour. We'll be with the two of you who are in a good angle today. We have Shin Ji-ho, former Vice-President of the Strategic Planning Department of the People's Power, and Kim Hyung-joo, former Democratic Party of Korea. Welcome. As I told you earlier, the court issued a second arrest warrant for President Yoon last night. Right now, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the police can try to arrest them for the second time today. When do you expect it to be executed?

[Shin Ji-ho]
Well, this time, the warrant's expiration date is not announced by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. I think they're taking a very cautious approach, but I'm most worried about the possibility of armed conflict and bloodshed if they do something wrong.

Regardless of who's at fault. I think that if armed conflict and bloodshed occur like that, what will happen to Korea's national prestige and the Korean financial market will fall completely the next day. So even if I went a little slow, I predicted that I would fail in the first arrest attempt. So the solution then is simple.

The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, which does not have the authority to investigate, is also not good. Instead of doing that, if the police transfer the case to the police who have the right to investigate the rebellion, the police investigate the case properly and get a warrant through the prosecution, President Yoon's rejection logic will be almost 99% eliminated. But despite doing so, President Yoon is not cooperating with the investigation? Then, the public opinion that the president should be arrested even by force will be almost the majority of the people. I am a little worried that if I do it in the current situation, it will go beyond the division of public opinion and almost split the country in two.

[Anchor]
As you said, the investigation capability of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has been controversial, but Director of Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit Oh Dong-woon came to the National Assembly yesterday and said he would prepare thoroughly with this determination that the second arrest attempt is the last. Do you think there is a possibility that Director of Airborne Affairs Oh Dong-woon will take the job himself this time?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
Well, from the point of view of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, I don't know if I can be determined to come to the front line myself because I feel that my organization is at a crossroads because many warrants have been rejected and no effective results have been produced.I think Ma will deal with it.

Also in that sense, on the other hand, when the police said, let's arrest the chief of security last time, and if you think you're going to take it that way and do it at once, wasn't it much looser at first than now? Of course, there is still debate and controversy over whether the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has the authority to investigate.Nevertheless, the court's warrant was issued, and it would have been better if the court administration had done so as there was no other scuffle about this, but I think it is much more difficult now.

[Anchor]
They also gave us an analysis that it would have been easier if we had arrested the head of the security last time, but the police say they will use tactics to break through the security personnel. I will use tactics to break through the barrier. What is it about?

[Shin Ji-ho]
So, the president's security agency itself has about 700 people. It is said that the total number of personnel supported by the radiation is about 1,200 to 1,300 people, and the defense wall of 1200 to 1,300 people is drilled with human tactics. When I think of human tactics, I think of the Chinese army that crossed the Yalu River at the time of June 25 and fought back against our armed forces and coalition forces again with human tactics, but usually, it should be at least 2:1 to conduct human tactics.

In numbers, at least. It should be 2:1, and when you are trained in a police commando or something like that, you arrest one person in groups of four and lift it up. It's like this, but the number is at least twice the number, and if it's twice the number of 1,200 people, it means that about 2,500 people will be put in.

[Anchor]
Since there are about 1,300 security guards, there are some people saying that the police might introduce about 2,800 people.

[Shin Ji-ho]
It's a national tragedy. It's more than just a tragedy, and it's a question of doing this now. It is the first attempt to arrest a sitting president in constitutional history, so we should not leave even a little flawless. But what's wrong with the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit right now, and what's even serious is that Rep. Lee Sang-sik, a former police officer of the Democratic Party, confessed himself. Over the past two days, we have been busy coordinating various pending issues between the Democratic Party and the National Assembly.

[Anchor]
SNS posts were controversial.

[Shin Ji-ho]
And if you look at what the Democratic Party is doing at the actual Judiciary Committee and the National Defense Committee, especially the Judiciary Committee and the Administrative Committee, it's actually directing the investigation. These things are all wrong and excessive right now. And even the Democrats are saying, "You have to catch him even if you're getting shot."

In this situation, no matter how much you put in more than twice as much, you don't know what will happen if an armed conflict occurs over there.

[Anchor]
We will discuss what you said in more detail later. Yesterday, the Judiciary Committee also talked about the possibility of President Yoon's escape. Let's listen to the interview of Ahn Kyu-baek of the Democratic Party this morning.

[Park Beom-gye / Rep. of the Democratic Party (Yesterday): Is President Yoon Suk Yeol at his official residence? ]

[Dongwoon Oh / Senior Civil Servants Crime Investigation Director (Yesterday): We have not received any accurate reports on that. And I can't even tell you. ]

[Park Beom-gye / Rep. of the Democratic Party (Yesterday): Do you think there is a possibility that he ran away? ]

[Dongwoon Oh / Senior Civil Servant Crime Investigation Director (Yesterday): Thinking about various possibilities.... ]

[Park Beom-gye / Member for the Democratic Party of Korea (Yesterday): You think there is a possibility, right? ]

[Dongwoon Oh / Senior Civil Servant Crime Investigation Director (Yesterday): We have to prepare for various possibilities to enter.... ]

[Park Beom-gye / Democratic Party of Korea (Yesterday): Do you think there is a possibility that the suspect may have hidden or fled? of the many possibilities.]

[Oh Dong-woon / Director of High-ranking Public Officials Crime Investigation (Yesterday): Yes, that's right. ]

[Ahn Kyu-baek / Rep. of the Democratic Party of Korea (KBS 'Absolute Attack') : From what I heard, I heard that they have already escaped Yongsan and fled to a third place. I need to check more, but I think I'm already in a third place after leaving the presidential residence in Hannam-dong. But I heard yesterday that the police are probably figuring out such similar whereabouts. If you're already at your official residence in Hannam-dong, there's no need to say that you're looking for whereabouts, right? So, if you listen to the Senior Superintendent of Public Offenses or the police briefing, didn't you take refuge in a third place? ]

[Anchor]
When asked about the possibility of President Yoon's escape, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is thinking of various possibilities. Rep. Ahn Kyu-baek also said that he had already escaped from Yongsan and was fleeing to a third place, but in fact, protesters are camped in front of the official residence and media cameras continue to be shown. Is this possible?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
Well, even if it's possible, I'm getting out of the car right now, so let's rent another car. For example, you can borrow lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun's car and escape. But at least if you were the president of the Republic of Korea, and if you were the president, it would be unimaginable to escape from your official residence, and in that state, practically no one would defend you anymore. So, even if we bump into each other, it's fair to bump into each other at the official residence.

There are times when some YouTubers try the first time, so they don't have it, so they can really get away with talking about it. You may want to run away from it in your heart, but if you have at least the dignity as a president and your own qualifications as a leader, you should face it proudly in your official residence. Even if they bump into each other, I think it's like the lowest Maginot Line for President Yoon to bump into each other at his official residence.

Also, for your information, 40 lawmakers went yesterday, right? People's Power went. I don't know the truth.If the president said, "Let's eat together," the president ran away to avoid this? It's a story that I shouldn't have and I don't want to believe.

[Anchor]
I asked the lawmakers gathered in front of the residence to eat rice cake soup in the presidential office. We talked about this. Is it true?

[Shin Ji-ho]
I think lawmaker Kim Ki-hyun confirmed it like that. How about eating rice cake soup together? However, if we eat together, we could be misunderstood and negatively affect the overall image of the party, so we declined it, but that's the case with rice cake soup. But up until then, I was in my official residence. Then, if you ran away, it means you did it after the rice cake soup incident, but I feel really ashamed to hear that kind of talk. If President Yoon fled in
and really in
, if it is confirmed later, it is highly likely that the energy of the remaining supporters and the support of the people's power lawmakers will disappear. The reason is that as Representative Kim Hyung-joo said well just now, this is not a state of war with any enemy.

Then the head of state may flee in an emergency. It's not like that. This situation was caused by the situation you triggered. And 40 or tens of thousands of lawmakers and tens of thousands of protesters are running in front of their houses despite the cold weather, and where are they running away? That can't happen.

[Anchor]
It can't happen. Both of you said that the escape report was not reliable. On the other hand, there are not a few voices of criticism, especially from the first-term lawmakers of the ruling party, over the 40 lawmakers who ran in front of the presidential residence. I'll continue the conversation after hearing that.

[Han Ji-ah / Member of the People's Power (SBS 'Kim Tae-hyun's Political Show'): I'm not going. The act of lawmakers, who are constitutional institutions, physically trying to interfere with the investigation process is not only a violation of the spirit of the Constitution, but as I said earlier, history sees it. (The leadership should not attend it, what do you think of the leadership's position? ) I think it's a great relief that the leadership told me that I shouldn't attend. If the party didn't let me go, would they have gone? I think some guidelines were still needed. ]

[Kim Jae-seop / People's Power (CBS 'Kim Hyun-jung's News Show'): I think we're in a bit of a mess about this unprecedented situation. As a result, the position has changed little by little, and it seems that they list this from Maeng Yoon to Ban Yoon, starting with President Yoon Suk Yeol. (Why do they think they do that? ) In particular, in the case of lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun, I think that recognizing martial law as a high-level political act is not a matter of pro-yoon or anti-yoon, but of common sense and unconventional knowledge. Are you thinking about the presidential election? Representative Yoon? ) What's the point of being a presidential candidate like that? I don't even know if that's how I can get the support of the people. ]

[Anchor]
According to a report today, floor leader Kwon Sung-dong has set a policy that the leadership will never go before the presidential residence. In response to this, Rep. Han Ji-ah said, "If so, the party should stop lawmakers from going to the front of the official residence," and she said that the leadership should not just distance itself, but should come forward and prevent it. What position do you see the party leadership in now?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
Basically, the party leadership is not willing to stop it, already. As far as I'm concerned. However, it keeps a little distance from being seen as a group. In other words, we're saying that we can't stop it from going individually, but basically, the president's position and the leadership's position are almost the same anyway. The position of floor leader Kwon Sung-dong and emergency committee chairman Kwon also.

Also, in a broad sense, the executives and supreme council members may have been leadership or leadership, but didn't they go? It belonged to the party's leadership system, at least if individual lawmakers went to that part. And another one, Kim Min-jeon is the best. Now the supreme council system is broken.E. They are also representing and instigating the president's position in a very active sense. He goes up to the stage and speaks, holding the microphone. I think it's a very dangerous situation.

[Anchor]
If you look at Kim Jae-seop's interview, wouldn't it be a little confusing about the unprecedented situation? I evaluated it like this because there is no center in the party right now. In fact, isn't there a situation where there are concerns that the center of the party is going back to the center of the president?

[Shin Ji-ho]
So some people are wondering what kind of gloss is there today.

[Anchor]
From Maengyoon to Jinyoon, Mulyoon, and Banyoon, there are systems like this.

[Shin Ji-ho]
But I think the reporters classified it because they were interested in it that way. Here's what I think. There are now 45 members of the People's Power in front of Hannam-dong's official residence, which has been confirmed so far. However, on the night of martial law on December 3, 18 members of the People's Power attended the plenary session of the National Assembly and voted for a resolution to lift martial law. I want to ask you this. There are 192 opposition lawmakers, including the Democratic Party.

On that night, 172 opposition lawmakers came into the plenary hall, excluding 20 out of 192. It's about 90 percent. However, in the case of our party, less than 18 out of 108 lawmakers, or 20% of them. I think the game is over here, actually. So that day, about 50 lawmakers who had gathered at our party headquarters and were watching TV were able to come in, and there is no reason why opposition lawmakers can't come in just because they are ruling party members.

Opposition lawmakers come in close to 90%, but why can't ruling party lawmakers come in? In particular, the police make it easy for opposition lawmakers to enter and strongly block the ruling party lawmakers. But all 45 of the lawmakers who are in Hannam-dong's official residence over there have not participated in the demand for the lifting of martial law.

So, if you go to Hannam-dong's official residence like that, how can you see it in the eyes of the people? They're all martial law advocates. Regardless of the distinction between Maeng Yun and Jin Yun, aren't they the ones who think that emergency martial law is inevitable and even justifiable? It's like this. However, all the confusion of the people's power now lies in the lack of a clear position at the party level on the emergency martial law on the night of December 3rd.

[Anchor]
I was talking about the ruling party members who came to the front of the official residence. Members stand out. Rep. Na Kyung-won and Rep. Kim Ki-hyun. These two actually had a hard time with President Yoon. Why did these two go to the presidential residence when one tried to run for the party leadership and the other was forced to step down from the party leadership?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
Well, based on what we say, the police should bring back the warrant in the right way for the execution without procedural justification, without the authority to investigate the crime of rebellion, which the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit currently has, saying that it is rather unconstitutional at the constitutional level. It's believed to be making that argument. So I'm not trying to defend what the president has done so far.

However, if another stain is left in the process of such execution, the public opinion will be divided, so I think it is in this position that I oppose the unfair execution of the warrant by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to the extent that I can do it now. Basically, in fact, lawmakers are very happy about their approval ratings. There is a controversy over whether the poll has been conducted correctly or not recently.In any case, if you look at the big trend, conservatives are rallying and the president's approval rating is about 40%, I have no choice but to think that those movements, the protective movements against President Yoon, are driving them.

[Anchor]
It seems that the ruling party's mood will be complicated over the arrest of the president, but we will also look at the situation of the Judiciary Committee yesterday. At yesterday's Legislation and Judiciary Committee, Chung Chung-rae, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, was briefly crippled. Let's watch the video to see what he said.


[Anchor]
Jeong Cheong-rae, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, used so many extreme words and received media attention for it, but this time, referring to the word death penalty, he said, "Don't worry about the people's power lawmakers." What does it mean?

[Shin Ji-ho]
It's a nonsense to say something about mockery in that it is something to say at the official meeting of the National Assembly Judiciary Committee and as the chairman of the Judiciary Committee presiding over the meeting. He's not even a judge himself. Whether or not the crime of rebellion is established will be revealed during the trial, and even if it is established, the sentencing will be determined by the nature of the crime, and the death sentence will be sentenced in that way. Are you cursing, what is it?

And that's just the old story of a politician who always causes trouble, Jeong Cheong-rae, and the point is that the Democratic Party of Korea and the opposition party remove the crime of rebellion from the reason for the impeachment, and that's where this started, right? And the Democratic Party's continued punting is not excluded from the reason for the impeachment.

It remains the same, but regardless of whether the act of criminal rebellion against the act of rebellion is established, whether the act of rebellion was unconstitutional, violation of the Constitution, and that is all I will do. I read the impeachment motion, which is a few dozen pages long, and it makes no sense without rebellion.

So at least the Constitutional Court should make a good judgment on that part. Moreover, I am concerned that if the crime of rebellion is removed at a time when the Constitutional Court is making a decision, it may not be accepted and accepted by the public, but rather it may be a catalyst for spreading division.

[Anchor]
"We will not accept the criminal law's judgment on whether we violated the constitution after only being judged for violation of the constitution on the act of emergency martial law, or on the charge of violating the crime of rebellion," said Chung Chung-rae, chairman of the committee, and the president will be impeached even if we exclude the crime of rebellion. So, don't worry that the people's power lawmakers will be retaliated, should we see this as a comparison to the extreme word of death sentence?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
Basically, what the Constitutional Court does anyway is violate the Constitution, and has the president done something that deserves to step down as president? In fact, according to the lawyer of the National Assembly's prosecution, the expression itself is written as an act of national constitution, which is equivalent to the crime of rebellion. The Constitutional Court asked me if it was a crime of rebellion. This problem seems to have occurred when the National Assembly said it would not fight for the crime of rebellion as to whether or not to argue for the crime of rebellion.

On the one hand, it looks like a pun to the public. So it was said that it was an act of national constitution similar to a civil war. Someone pointed out earlier that Rep. Shin.If you look at it in person, the passed resolution and the prosecution say it's a crime of rebellion. So, it is true that the legitimacy of the prosecution of the Democratic Party and the National Assembly is being destroyed considerably.

[Anchor]
The Hong Joon Pyo market criticized whether it was jajangmyeon without jajangmyeon.

[Kim Hyung-joo]
On the one hand, however, the Constitutional Court is actually a number of issues. It is made by reducing it to two out of one or five of the first impeachment bills when it is put on the second impeachment, and there is no change in the contents of the National Assembly. That's what happened when we were in groups.Ma is saying that the Constitutional Court will fight it out enough, and that it will be sorted out. So, naturally, the Constitutional Court seems to have settled its position that it only needs to contend with the various martial law situations, the situation entering the National Assembly, and whether the forced pressure on politicians itself has done enough to dismiss the president.

[Anchor]
There was controversy over the exclusion of the rebellion, but the ruling and opposition parties criticized in unison over the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit yesterday, during which Rep. Lee Sung-yoon must execute a warrant even if he is shot. I told the head of the airborne department like this. Of course, it would be a figurative expression, but there were also criticisms that the remarks of lawmakers from the ruling and opposition parties seem to be going too far.

[Shin Ji-ho]
Looking at the Democratic Party of Korea right now, including Chairman Lee Jae-myung, this is a reflective benefit to them due to the wrongdoings of President Yoon Suk Yeol, which opened up the opportunity to take power through early presidential elections, but I think they are mistaken as if they worked so hard and achieved results.
Everything you do now is so bad that you wonder if it's an occupier, Rep. Lee Sung-yoon, should I catch you even after you get shot? Is this what you're going to say now as a member of the National Assembly?
is very inappropriate.
And now, the Democratic Party of Korea accused Acting President Choi Sang-mok of dereliction of duty yesterday. This is also a comedy in the middle of a comedy.

[Anchor]
There is a recording of that part, so we will listen to it first and continue the conversation.

[Kim Min-seok / Supreme Council member of the Democratic Party of Korea: Accusing Acting President Choi Sang-mok of dereliction of duty. I'm too disappointed with acting chief executive Choi Sang-mok. During the Yoon Suk Yeol's arrest, Choi Sang-mok did not respond at all to the request for cooperation from the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to clearly proceed with the execution of the warrant under the warrant issued by the court, and eventually contributed to the final collapse. ]

[Park Ji-won / Rep. of the Democratic Party of Korea (Yesterday, CBS' "Park Jae-hong's Match")] There is no corruption investigation agency. I have no problem if I cooperate well with the police and the police do well. Before that, the acting chief must play a role. I mean acting president. That's why the security agency's jurisdiction is strictly with the acting chief. That's why I think it will be possible if the chief security officer, deputy chief, and head of the security headquarters, who are currently the most resistant, are relieved of their positions and executed a warrant. ]

[Anchor]
The Democratic Party of Korea accused Acting President Choi Sang-mok of dereliction of duty. You said you took out a complaint card instead of impeachment, but then you said you won't impeach anymore?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
If you impeach, the Democratic Party is really flailing and has done a very deplorable stupid thing, that's what you can see. Because in the hearts of the people, President Yoon Suk Yeol has already left. Now is the time to judge whether the Democratic Party and Chairman Lee Jae-myung have the trust and stability to run state affairs in the next early presidential election, I think so.

But if even acting chief executive Choi Sang-mok, following Prime Minister Han Duck-soo, impeaches the entire five, as the so-called spokesman Noh Jong-myun says, will the people see the political group called the Democratic Party as a stable political group? In any case, the Trump administration will be established the day after tomorrow after completely destroying the state administration, and we have no choice but to say that we will completely blank the state administration and make it anarchy, right?

It's a complaint that never goes down that road, but I think even the accusation is too much. Because impeachment and impeachment are on each other, the question of whether the impeachment of President Yoon should be done first is also being debated. There are a lot of things in front of us, starting with the chairman of the Korea Communications Standards Commission. So you're doing what you're doing in your own way, and I look like that, so even if you have a lot of authority, it's not democracy that you're using it up. So you have to be a little more careful and refrain from it, I think so.

[Shin Ji-ho]
But what is very important is that during the Moon Jae In regime, despite strong opposition from the opposition, such as the power of the people, the Public Offenses Act was pushed forward. Article 3 of the Corruption Investigations Unit Act states that the President and the Presidential Secretariat should not do anything about the performance of the Corruption Investigations Unit's duties.

Why? Since the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is an independent investigative agency separated from the president, they made the law that they should not be involved in the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit's work.

[Anchor]
You were referring to Article 3, Paragraph 3, which emphasized the independence of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit.

[Shin Ji-ho]
Right. They made a law, and the Democrats. It's not that Acting Chief Choi Sang-mok didn't comply with the request of the Senior Superintendent of Public Offenses. Don't resist the bodyguard. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit refused to comply with his request. That's why I'm accusing him of dereliction of his duties. What kind of comedy is this? That's innocent, innocent.

[Anchor]
According to lawmaker Park Ji-won's words, he said that the security agency should be removed from office naturally.

[Shin Ji-ho]
That's innocent. So, such accusations are innocent, and lawmaker Park Ji-won should know how to be really embarrassed. Isn't that the law their regime made? They made this law and they broke it? Then what's wrong with you taking it out?

[Anchor]
On the other hand, the remarks of the two police-turned-ruling and opposition party lawmakers are controversial. In the case of lawmaker Lee Chul-kyu, the power of the people, it was also confirmed that he had an argument with the head of the National Investigation Headquarters. What was it about?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
As a result, think about the future. It's still the ruling party after a lot of threats, and under that premise, there will be consequences for what you did when President Yoon returned.

[Anchor]
The bodyguard exercised the criminal law right to refuse arrest in the presence of a person subject to security.
Do you think this will happen forever because the police opinion is applied at will? Think of the future later. Rep. Lee Chul-kyu, a former police officer, reportedly replied that it was difficult for Woo Jong-soo, head of the National Investigation Division, to hear it.

[Kim Hyung-joo]
That's right. Right now, the police are the only body that can investigate and access the presidential rebellion. It is very inappropriate to make such a threat against the police itself, you should see it that way, and aren't you a former police officer yourself? If it goes wrong, the politicization of the police and such controversy are also seen as such.

[Anchor]
I heard the story of a former police member of the ruling party, and Lee Sang-sik of the Democratic Party, who is also a former police officer, said on social media that the phone caught fire because he was acting as a messenger between the party and the National Investigation Headquarters. You mentioned it earlier, right?

[Shin Ji-ho]
If that's not someone's interrogation or someone's question, but he wrote it on his own Facebook page, so there's no way he wrote a lie. The phone caught fire while acting as a messenger between the Democratic Party and the National Assembly. However, if you look at it now, the Democratic Party of Korea's lawmakers asked them to arrest them even if they were shot yesterday, to do something, to put in a police commando if they couldn't. How many words did you pour out?

Isn't it that Representative Lee Sang-sik, a former police officer, constantly communicated and coordinated with the National Investigation Headquarters and the head of the headquarters over there? This can't happen.

[Anchor]
It seems clear that both ruling and opposition lawmakers are making inappropriate remarks. After a while, the plenary session will re-vote the so-called Bilateral Special Prosecutors Act, including the Civil War and the Special Prosecutor's Act on Kim Gun-hee. Floor leader Park Chan-dae appealed to the independent counsel's vote, calling the names of the people's power lawmakers who voted for impeachment one by one. We'll listen to your voice first.

[Anchor]
Today, the re-vote of eight bills will be held, and the attention is paid to the twin special prosecution law. Park Chan-dae, the floor leader of the party, made a desperate appeal by pointing out the names of Ahn Cheol Soo and Kim Ye-ji, and as we have already told you in breaking news, the power of the people decided to reject it with the party's argument. As the Democratic Party of Korea has decided to remove the crime of rebellion from the Constitutional Court, ruling party lawmakers are also strongly opposed. So how can we expect today's vote?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
I expect that it will produce worse results than last time. There will be fewer leave votes, rather, because now even Ahn Cheol Soo has passed the impeachment motion.Ma is currently returning to the position that he needs to re-decide again. And since President Yoon and his approval rating are rising again, it seems difficult for individual lawmakers to leave.

[Shin Ji-ho]
I feel the same way, but why don't we pass the Insurrection Special Prosecutor Act after asking us to remove the crime of rebellion from the impeachment trial? It's a very toxic bill, so even those who voted for impeachment are too much, even if they do this. We have no choice but to see if the Democratic Party is doing it completely without any restraint as they want.

And they put a rebellion in front of the special prosecutor and said that it must be passed, but I think the members of the People's Power were very stimulated. So I don't think it's going to pass today, although there may be only a few votes for the leave vote.

[Anchor]
Both of them predicted that there would be fewer votes to leave, but according to today's interview with Han Ji-ah, it is very important for the ruling party to present a new independent counsel first, even if the independent counsel bill is rejected today. Otherwise, the younger lawmakers will have no choice but to vote with a vote today and again. That's what I said. How is the atmosphere in the ruling party?

[Shin Ji-ho]
That's true. When Han Dong-hoon was the leader of the party, the party should come up with an alternative to the martial law independent counsel, which is the removal of the toxic clause. Because the police, the prosecution, and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit are trying to lead the investigation into martial law, there are various confusion during the arrest process. So, in order to consolidate all of these and organize traffic, a special prosecutor must be launched at the National Assembly.

In order to do that, the special prosecutor's bill must be passed. In that sense, the truth of the day, that emergency martial law. So, of course, the act of rebellion will be included as a charge, but it is not a rebellion special prosecutor, but rather a neutral term and neutrality in the appointment of the special prosecutor. If it is possible, it should be launched quickly and the police, prosecutors, and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit should be merged into that area.

[Anchor]
In the case of the Kim Special Prosecutor Act and the Insurrection Special Prosecutor Act, isn't it that the ruling party is raising the issue only with the opposition party's authority to recommend the special prosecutor? And in the case of the Kim Special Counsel Act, in fact, too many ruling party lawmakers are aiming at it. Do you think that all these toxic provisions will be resolved and a great amendment will be made?

[Kim Hyung-joo]
Well, if the Democratic Party doesn't get more votes in the vote this time, wouldn't it need a strategic revision? In particular, it would be a self-fulfilling measure for the Democratic Party to make such a decision on the part related to floor leader Choo Kyung-ho and the part involving a large number of ruling party members.

[Anchor]
We will continue to update you on today's voting status in the afternoon. So far, I have been with Shin Ji-ho, former Vice President of the Strategic Planning Department of People's Power, and Kim Hyung-joo, former Democratic Party lawmaker. Thank you.