Kim Yong-min said, "與 is using the politics of the president himself, which is already over."No one around you will help your 尹".

- Kim 尹 appears to be a 'South American gang' to Jeong Jin-suk's remarks
- The actual South American gang is unlikely to resist like 尹
- 'negotiation' to court-issued warrants? Strange situation
- President undermined the legal system of the Republic of Korea... "Harmony."

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: January 14, 2025 (Tuesday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Talk: Rep. Kim Yong-min of the Democratic Party of Korea

- COOPERATIVE-Security Agency, No possibility of armed conflict
- 與 calls for "stop execution of arrest warrants," false instigation
- No one around the 尹 will help the 尹
- 與 uses the politics of the president himself/herself that has already ended
- 與, dragging his/her feet while going through the 'Civil War Special Counsel Act'}- If they agree on the need for an independent counsel, they should propose a party argument
- 尹, impeachment trial 'because they are afraid of arrest'

* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.
◆Shinryul: YTN Radio's Shinryul News Head-to-head Match Part 2 begins. Part 2, a face-to-face interview. Kim Yong-min of the Democratic Party of Korea is in the studio right now. Please come in.

◇Kim Yong-min: Hello.

◆ Shin Yul: Every day is like that these days. First of all, the arrest warrant is executed. Can I tell you in advance that it's 3 a.m. tomorrow?

◇Kim Yong-min: Usually, we don't do this. Arrest warrants are executed very secretly and quietly.

◆ Shin Yul: Then what's wrong with you? What about now?

◇ Kim Yong-min: I don't know. I don't know. As a large-scale manpower is mobilized, information may have leaked here and there, and on the other hand, from the standpoint of the National Assembly, I think it may be a way to pressure the security service more severely by actually disclosing it. Either way, we also believe that the execution of the arrest warrant itself is imminent.

◆ Shin Yul: According to our YTN report, at 4 o'clock, all the police are out of call-up now. When do you expect it to be?

◇Kim Yong-min: I personally thought that if the police received separate arrest warrants for Lee Kwang-woo and Deputy Chief Kim Sung-hoon, they would execute them quickly after that.

◆ Shin Yul: It's not out yet?

◇Kim Yong-min: No. An arrest warrant was issued for Deputy Director Kim Sung-hoon, and he probably applied for Director Lee Kwang-woo, but it has not been disclosed yet whether he has issued an application.

◆ Shin-ryul: When it comes out, it will go into execution. Today, however, Presidential Chief of Staff Chung Jin-suk is pushing President Yoon as if he were a drug gang in South America. Requested an investigation or a visit investigation in a third place. How did you like it?

◇Kim Yong-min: This is exactly 'Don't think about elephants', but the moment you say this, the Yoon Suk Yeol that is holding out now looks like a real South American gang. And in fact, South American gangs are not going to resist like this. I don't write to my supporters and tell them to fight until the end, or I'm setting up a folding screen in front of the lawmakers. However, the fact that an incumbent president is resisting the execution of a warrant like this in any case in the Republic of Korea is really lowering the national prestige. And I don't know if you're going to be investigated by the emperor again after being investigated in a third place, but that's something I can't accept right now. It is truly unprecedented for a sitting president to commit rebellion, but we need to quickly execute an arrest warrant for these things to reassure the anxious people. So, I think that executing an arrest warrant as soon as possible is the way to revive national prestige, stabilize the economy, and the people can sleep with confidence.

◆ Shin-ryul: Assuming that the court recognizes you for rebellion, this is a pro-Wi coup. But the pro-Wi coup d'état has been a bit historical, and as far as I remember, it's in Peru. Anyway, the three of us met this morning with the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, the police, and the security guards, and they all kept talking about it.

◇ Kim Yong-min: I just confirmed that there is still a difference in position. There have been reports like this, but I understand that the three organizations met today to have a working-level negotiation because Deputy Prime Minister Choi Sang-mok said yesterday that there should be no physical conflict in relation to the execution of the arrest warrant. However, as a result, the security service has no intention of stepping back and maintains its position, so the negotiations themselves seemed difficult and only the execution was left. In fact, it's a very strange situation in itself. I don't understand this situation right now. It doesn't make sense to negotiate with the suspect who is executing the warrant to execute the warrant issued by the court. It's breaking down the legal system of the Republic of Korea too much. It's very pathetic that it's the president of this country who is breaking and undermining the rule of law most seriously.

◆Mystery: But how is the possibility of armed conflict? I think it's better to keep an eye on it. It seems like you can see me carrying a firearm higher than your personal firearm level, and then you can see me carrying a firearm in a bag. Is there a reason why you keep revealing this? How do you see it?

◇ Kim Yong-min: I think it's a kind of show of force. In this way, we are saying, "We will respond by force, so don't execute it," which in itself is an attitude that ignores the judicial system. And in fact, what are the employees of the security service working on the spot? A sense of shame that he has to protect the criminal of rebellion now. How much would you feel that you have to obey the law? However, I believe that there is little possibility of armed conflict in practice. The reason is, as I said earlier, the people who are strongly preventing the execution of arrest warrants at the security office are the deputy head of the security office and the head of the security headquarters. If you get an arrest warrant for these people and go in, you first arrest them. Then there are no people to command the security services. The bodyguard itself is disabled. In fact, there are many rumors that the security service staff are having a hard time. So if these hard-line people are arrested and disappearing, the chain of command will collapse and cooperate easily. That's what I think.

◆ Shin Yul: But in the case of the power of the people, I said this. It's illegal and unreasonable execution, we should give up now. What kind of evaluation would you like to make?

◇ Kim Yong-min: That's a real false instigation. I don't know why they keep calling court-issued warrants illegal. It's illegal to commit martial law, so it's illegal to commit civil war, and I don't know why it's illegal to execute a warrant legally issued by the court to resolve it. I think the people's power lawmakers and the Yoon Suk Yeol's lawyers are going the wrong way. The truth is, Yoon Suk Yeol himself has brought it on, but not everyone is doing Yoon Suk Yeol any good. There was a constitutional trial today, but if you are in a position to be judged whether you will be dismissed or not, and then you are in a position to be investigated after the execution of the arrest warrant, at least lawyers should provide legally helpful defense and give advice. And the People's Power MPs should do things that are legally helpful to the Yoon Suk Yeol if they have any affection for the real Yoon Suk Yeol, but they are not helpful at all now, but rather make it more legally difficult. For example, we continue to make people who do not have the will to protect the constitution. This is a clear reason for impeachment. One of the reasons for impeachment during the Park Geun Hye was the lack of will to protect the Constitution. That's why I'm making it for you. Members of the People's Power are making it more collective. I think these actions themselves are very upsetting because they seem to be thinking about using the finished president to the advantage of their politics, while they are also seeing that Yoon Suk Yeol is already done.

◆ Shin Yul: I have to ask you that, too. Since you used to be a legal professional. President Yoon will show his face to the police wearing a civil service card. What does this mean?

◇ Kim Yong-min: When the police execute public affairs, public officials, including the police, are the same, but when executing public affairs, they have duties to verify their identity, and I'm emphasizing that now. Is it legal to make a civil war because the red carpet is also oily? I don't think I understand how the person who committed the civil war, which is the most important punishment in our criminal law, is making this demand. On the other hand, in the process of executing a legitimate arrest warrant, you can present your civil service card if necessary. But what's more important is to present an arrest warrant and go in. Therefore, I believe that the police and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit need to follow the law as much as possible. However, I don't think it needs to be used backwards to prevent execution or to delay execution in itself.

◆ Shin Yul: You mentioned me earlier. The power of the people does not use the name of the independent counsel law, but they say that it is the emergency martial law independent counsel law. Anyway, they will prepare it, but the Democratic Party said so. We can review that together. Give me the inside for now. Do you agree?

◇Kim Yong-min: Our position is to come up with a bill and talk about it. If we propose it with the party's theory and propose it, we think we should discuss it then. As if you haven't proposed the law yet, doing this or that only seems to be a drag. In particular, it is predicted that a warrant will be executed tomorrow, but if you are arrested tomorrow, you will have to be prosecuted within 20 days. If so, I think it's an attempt to drag the time from the perspective of the people's power to prevent the Yoon Suk Yeol, a gangster from investigating or prosecuting the Yoon Suk Yeol, even if the special prosecutor starts. If you really need an independent counsel and are going to be serious, let's quickly come up with a bill and discuss it together. On the one hand, I think that releasing a bill itself is a big change in the power of the people. What it is is that the power of the people is not a civil war until today. Martial law is wrong, but it's not a civil war. However, whatever the name of the independent counsel's law is, the subject of the investigation is anyway, a rebellion. To issue an independent counsel law for civil war is to acknowledge civil war. So I think we can discuss if the power of the people acknowledges the civil war and comes in.

◆ Shin Yul: By the way. Why do you think it's because the National Assemblyman is trying to increase the time he has to talk? It's using the president for politics, which is already over. Why do you think so when you said this?

◇Kim Yong-min: I don't know. From the standpoint of the people's power, there seem to be things that are trying to rebound somehow and trying to rally their supporters in between. I don't know if they're doing it openly, but in reality, I'll wait for Lee Jae-myung's ruling. It looks like this strategy. So I have to take as long as I can. It appears that you're thinking like this.

◆ Shin Yul: And what is President Yoon? The impeachment trial. The first anniversary was held today, but it didn't come out. So I'll act one more time and if it doesn't come out on the 16th, I'll just go. There are a lot of people saying that it's because they're worried that they'll be arrested in the end, right?

◇Kim Yong-min: In the end, we understand that he didn't go out because he was afraid of arrest. It is also contradictory and absurd how a person who is afraid of arrest even committed a civil war. But anyway, I didn't attend today, and then I applied for avoidance yesterday. In addition, I filed an objection against the judges of the political line one by one to the fact that the trial is going on now. I've filed an objection to setting the deadline, setting five dates at once, receiving evidence, and so on. And in the case of Kim Yong-hyun, who has already been arrested and prosecuted as an accomplice of rebellion, he also filed a complaint against the judge. This series of processes is a very bad attitude to ignore the constitutional order itself. That's right. He even committed a civil war and tried to neutralize and dismantle the constitutionally guaranteed National Assembly, but if he failed anyway, he should be responsible for it within the constitutional order. I don't understand why you don't take legal responsibility when you said you'd take legal responsibility.

◆ Shin Yul: But you mentioned legal responsibility, but President Yoon Suk Yeol talks a lot about the law. Regarding the records of investigations on constitutional amendment secured by the Constitutional Court and the minutes of the National Assembly's meeting, President Yoon's side must go through the judicial committee's investigation process if the impeachment bill is proposed. They argue that it is impossible to adopt evidence because it violates the National Assembly Act. What do you think?

◇ Kim Yong-min: That's a very ignorant argument. The National Assembly Act allows the Judiciary Committee to investigate. It's not a must. So even when the Park Geun Hye was impeached, he went straight away without an investigation by the Judiciary Committee. So it's very ignorant to say that right now, and our National Assembly decided that it was very urgent to impeach the Yoon Suk Yeol, so we went straight without an investigation by the Judiciary Committee. Of course, the evidence was already full and overflowing. Isn't the whole nation a witness? But the reason why I thought it was very urgent was that the reason for the impeachment of President Park Geun Hye in the past was essentially a corruption case. And most of the issues were already over. However, impeachment of the Yoon Suk Yeol is not corruption, but a civil war, and it is a serious situation that can lead to physical conflict and even a civil war. And it was a very urgent situation. That's why the National Assembly should impeach him as soon as possible. And it was an absolutely desperate task to suspend the job as soon as possible. That's why we decided that we didn't have to go through the Judiciary Committee's investigation, so we passed the plenary session right away.

◆Shin Yul: According to another news, the president of Yoon Suk Yeol is recruiting lawyers to support the security service staff. It is said that they are recruiting openly. We are also seeking legal aid and donations from the Security Service. How do you rate it?

◇Kim Yong-min: First of all, we need to see if there is a possibility of violating the Donation Act. But that itself is very awkward and weird. He said he would somehow open his hands to the poor people on the streets to get his illegality. Of course, the poor people on the streets are the people of the Republic of Korea who are out to protect their Yoon Suk Yeol anyway, and they are only thinking of themselves to fight for themselves until the end. I think it's a really bad thing for a sitting president to ask him to pay them when they are in a very sad and pitiful situation because they are continuing to order to protect themselves illegally. He also advises that if a lawyer is appointed, he hopes to appoint a helpful lawyer this time.

◆ Shin-ryul: So you're judging that the lawyers so far are not that helpful from the perspective of legal professionals, right?

◇Kim Yong-min: That's right. Rather, as I said earlier, I'm defending myself to harm the Yoon Suk Yeol, not help at all, and to make the situation worse.

◆ Shin Yul: I see. In addition, acting president Choi Sang-mok met with the representatives of the ruling and opposition parties and asked them to make a bill for independent counsel for insurrection, which is not unconstitutional. We talked about the People's Power Special Counsel Act, but yesterday, the Judiciary Committee passed a bill for independent counsel that a third party can recommend as a candidate for independent counsel. How do you see it? In addition to this, did all the unconstitutional elements of Acting President Choi Sang-mok's talk about this newly passed? What do you think?

◇ Kim Yong-min: First of all, our Democratic Party's position is that there is no unconstitutional element in the existing law. It has already been confirmed by the Constitutional Court's ruling. There is no unconstitutional element at all. Nevertheless, we accepted all of their positions because they insisted that it was an unconstitutional element. Therefore, the law passed yesterday also came out from the acting vice minister of the Justice Minister yesterday, and they answered that all the arguments they claimed when they exercised their veto over the existing law were resolved. This is not my answer, it is the response of the Government's Deputy Minister of Justice. So, I don't think there is any justification for rejection anymore because all the problems they thought were solved have been resolved. In particular, when exercising the veto, there must be a recommendation from the minister in charge, but given the position and remarks of the vice justice minister, he is unlikely to propose the exercise of the veto itself. Then, it is impossible for the acting chief executive to exercise his veto power alone at his own judgment without the recommendation of the minister in charge. That's what I'm looking at.

◆ Credit: I'm curious. Don't you put the foreign exchange-related charges here? But you might not have been able to see it because you were busy, but the parliamentary investigation against me began this morning. This started, and today, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff came out there, and as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has been talking about that, you heard that the word foreign exchange itself is very repulsive, right?

◇Kim Yong-min: Yes, I saw it.

◆ Shin Yul: What do you think?

◇Kim Yong-min: First of all, I have to say two things clearly. The first one is this. As it has already been reported a lot in the media, Yoon Suk Yeol tried to start a war in the Republic of Korea in order to dictatorship. This has to be investigated and punished in any way. No one is denying this proposition. No one is denying this proposition. And the second is that the Special Prosecutor Act, which we submitted and passed yesterday, is not guilty of attracting foreign exchange from the beginning. Due to the requirement to conspire with the enemy country, there is also a controversy over whether North Korea is an enemy or not, but we have not confirmed the possibility of conspiring with the enemy, so we did not impose a foreign exchange attraction crime. What we put in is a charge point. The allegations are that North Korea's armed provocation and conflict are the subject of investigation. When I investigated the allegation, it was said that it was a place of foreign exchange under our criminal law. If it can be a general transfer crime in the chapter of the foreign exchange, you can prosecute it for a general transfer. If you investigate and find that it is a violation of the National Security Law, you can prosecute it for violating the National Security Law. So we put that charge in the Special Counsel Act. Then, some people ask why I didn't include it in the title, but foreign exchange is the foreign exchange market under the Korean criminal law I mentioned earlier. There are about five or six articles in the chapter of foreign exchange. Among them, the Constitution also included the reason for the exception of the privilege of non-refugee as a crime of treason, but it is interpreted as a case of committing a crime in the chapter of rebellion, not a crime of rebellion.

◆ Shin Yul: I see. One thing I want to ask you is that Realmeter is a wireless telephone ars-style poll of 1,006 voters aged 18 and over nationwide from January 9th to 10th, commissioned by the Energy Economics Newspaper. For more information, please refer to the website of the Central Election Poll Review Committee. Not only the Realmeter polls, but also many polls suggest that the Democratic Party's approval rating is on the decline and the people's power is on the rise. I didn't point out a specific survey, but if you look at it comprehensively. Do you know why I keep emphasizing polymerization? I'm afraid I'll get caught off guard. If I do it in detail, I have to do it. In a way, what do you think is the reason?

◇Kim Yong-min: As you said, we accept the objective fact that the flow of such polls has been created. The first poll there was quite a bit of a larger poll than before. The unfairness of the polls is now a problem and is leading to a legal battle. We believe that the first poll is likely to be the bandwagon effect of the poll, which is seen as unfair. Second, it is also believed that supporters of the people's power are actively rallying with a sense of crisis. Third, we believe that these situations, which seem to be slow in arrest and such investigations, are actually a matter of investigative agencies and people in the administration appointed by President Yoon Suk Yeol, but we are also worried that it may lead to disappointment that the Democratic Party of Korea is not responding properly anyway. So we're analyzing that there has been such a change in approval ratings because of these things. But what's important is that it doesn't change the fact that the insurrectionist is Yoon Seok-yeol, and that we, the Democratic Party of Korea, will keep going in order to do the right thing.

◆Shin Yul: Let me tell you a little bit about the poll you mentioned. It's a poll commissioned by Asia Today. It was done by the Korea Institute of Public Opinion at the request of Asia Today. I found it here. Asia Today commissioned the Korea Public Opinion Research Institute to conduct an ars-type poll of 1,000 men and women aged 18 or older nationwide on January 3 and 4, 2025. For more information, please visit the website of the Central Election Poll Review Committee. It also has a bandwagon effect. That's what you're talking about, right? You're talking about chasing after them thinking, right?

◇Kim Yong-min: That's what pollsters are doing.

◆ Shin-ryul: So if we actually do it, the actual public opinion will be a little different. That's what they think.

◇ Kim Yong-min: I think so, but as I said before, we acknowledge that this flow was created, and we're thinking about various options because of the reasons I said earlier after analyzing why.

◆Mystery: One more simple thing. You know the Kakao Talk problem. Let's talk about this.

◇Kim Yong-min: That's why we're not looking into Kakao Talk. You keep misunderstanding this, but wouldn't you report false news related to KakaoTalk if fake news spread? If the Democratic Party reports, we will refer it to the investigative agency. It's a natural procedure. These are the procedures that have been done before.

◆ Shin Yul: But the ruling party sees it as a kind of frame like this, right?

◇Kim Yong-min: That's right. The actual martial law proclamation restricted and deprived everyone of their freedom of speech.

◆ Shin Yul: I know that well. Because when I was young, I went through martial law when I was a freshman in college. I know it very well. Let's stop here today. This has been Kim Yong-min of the Democratic Party of Korea.